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Are these believable?
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 Subject: Form Submission
name: Alan
location: Gass Valley, Calif. USA
Question: Dorian! Hello from the states! I am in awe of the strenght and effort that built your physique. I'm curious to know what is your strongest movment, are there feats of strenght you preformed that suprise even your peers? What max wieghts have you lifted? Were ther any strenght goals that you aimed for?
Hi Alan,
Some examples..Incline press 440 x 8 dumbell row 200x 10 Squat 600x 12 Dorian
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Are these believable?
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 Subject: Form Submission
name: Alan
location: Gass Valley, Calif. USA
Question: Dorian! Hello from the states! I am in awe of the strenght and effort that built your physique. I'm curious to know what is your strongest movment, are there feats of strenght you preformed that suprise even your peers? What max wieghts have you lifted? Were ther any strenght goals that you aimed for?
Hi Alan,
Some examples..Incline press 440 x 8 dumbell row 200x 10 Squat 600x 12 Dorian
Incline Press: Yes - watch his video
DB Row - a little light - I've read 215 for 12
Squat: Very light for his size - he didn't do squats after 94 i think
All of the lifts he mentioned seem a little light for what he's cpable of or what I've read/seen on video.
I think he was just being modest
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600 for 12 isnt light for his size. Thats bloody heavy.
If its true its most likely performed on the smith machine; he dropped the free weight variation early on in his career.
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he did 425 for 6 incline on Blood and Guts that's a pretty long way from 440 for 12, the squats he did on the Smith.
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he did 425 for 6 incline on Blood and Guts that's a pretty long way from 440 for 12, the squats he did on the Smith.
Its 440 for 8, not 12
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Incline Press: Yes - watch his video
DB Row - a little light - I've read 215 for 12
Squat: Very light for his size - he didn't do squats after 94 i think
All of the lifts he mentioned seem a little light for what he's cpable of or what I've read/seen on video.
I think he was just being modest
Stop smoking crack,Im checking the video now.And besides never belive a BB.
Dorian was pretty weak for his size and weight.
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Who ever said that he was maxing out in the video?
The rows are believable.
The squats as well.
Only point of contention is the incline presses which although in the video dont match the claims who's to say at another point and weight he wasnt able to handle 440.
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Stop smoking crack,Im checking the video now.And besides never belive a BB.
Dorian was pretty weak for his size and weight.
there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.
in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.
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Who ever said that he was maxing out in the video?
The rows are believable.
The squats as well.
Only point of contention is the incline presses which although in the video dont match the claims who's to say at another point and weight he wasnt able to handle 440.
He seems to struggle and get help from his spoter on most heavy sets.
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there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.
in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.
"his form"? hahahaha, his "rows" were like long shrugs.
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there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.
in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.
His form...please...
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Dorian had decent strength for his size. Someone who does not who comes to mind is Gunter.
i've heard his before matt? does he just train very high reps with lighter weight? or just light beacuse he isnt strong,
very surpising though, hes around eddie ellwood size, and he very strong.
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Gunter can incline about 365 in the offseason for 6-8 on his best day, which is pathetic for his size. However his grip strength is freaky, didnt he almost close something thats never been done before?
Dorian has dont bent over rows with a reverse grip using 440lbs for 6-7 reps which is insane. I believe his deadlift was up near 800 too. As fr eddy Ellwood, his best lifts are unfucking real!
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I see Gunter in DVDs routinely using up to 315 for reps on the incline which is nothing special. I imagine I will be there before I ever touch a steroid. He does pretty well every exericise with light weight and not for high reps.
was he inclining that weight precontest?
as in a BFTO vid?
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Gunter can incline about 365 in the offseason for 6-8 on his best day, which is pathetic for his size. However his grip strength is freaky, didnt he almost close something thats never been done before?
I think he either came close to/ or closed the COC #3's. I think its the COC #4 thats the hardest one, not many people can close that one.
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Gunter can incline about 365 in the offseason for 6-8 on his best day, which is pathetic for his size. However his grip strength is freaky, didnt he almost close something thats never been done before?
Dorian has dont bent over rows with a reverse grip using 440lbs for 6-7 reps which is insane. I believe his deadlift was up near 800 too. As fr eddy Ellwood, his best lifts are unfucking real!
365 for 8 on the incline is extremely strong for anyone. ::)
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365 for 8 on the incline is extremely strong for anyone. ::)
it is strong, but gunther weighs like 300 pounds, so relatively it isn't.
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I'm sure he could bench well over 500. Hardly "pathetic" for a 300 lb guy.
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I'm sure he could bench well over 500. Hardly "pathetic" for a 300 lb guy.
offseason i personally wouldnt douibt it.
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365 on the incline for 6 reps equates to a 1rm of abot 440lbs. For a guy who is 330 offseason thats pretty piss poor in relation to his size and the amount he juices.
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365 for 8 on the incline is extremely strong for anyone. ::)
i actually agree with you here.
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i actually agree with you here.
HAHAHA you beast!
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did you get around to answer wether that was off season or not
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did you get around to answer wether that was off season or not
who cares, offseason or not it's strong.
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who cares, offseason or not it's strong.
im talking about the other lifts where some here says he's weak
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im talking about the other lifts where some here says he's weak
he's not weak, he's not Ronnie but he's not weak.
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I watched this guy at the gym incline 315 for 15 then went all the way up and did 475 for 6 and then at the end did a burn-out with 225 for probably 50+ reps. Craziest thing I have ever seen.
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there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.
in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.
nailed it on the head
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Exactly. Gunter gets up to 345 in the offseason and can probably only bench press his body weight for a working set of eight reps at that weight. I assure you he has never lifted that much precontest.
Doing your body weight for reps on the incline is ok, but nothing spectacular. Gunter obviously has the genetics built for mass and not strength. If you want to talk strong, see Bertil Fox.
how do you know how much gunter can lift
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I've never seen him lift more than 335 on any pressing movement in any video I've seen of him and I've seen them all. The fact he is precontest and depleted is offset by the fact that he is being filmed and consciously training with more intensity.
Gunter, in general, is not particularly strong for his size and this really isn't open for debate.
You mean you don't want to debate it? Ok then I guess we won't. You're the expert.
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You mean you don't want to debate it? Ok then I guess we won't. You're the expert.
I can't picture a 345 fairly lean man, juiced up etc, benching just his bodyweight, he can't be that weak - not offseason.
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I don't think you're following - it's like debating 1+1. It's needless and not worth our time. Gunter seems strong in the grip strength though. In all fairness, Gunter has long limbs which makes for a more challenging range of motion, although that never really hurt Ronnie.
If it's not worth YOUR time then don't post
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I know so mnay lifters who can handle 315 plus, who have less muscle than one of gunthers thighs.
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Relax dude. Nobody is arguing that Gunter is strong. What is being said here is that he is not that strong relative to his mass and body weight, e.g., pound for pound strength.
Yeah I know. But I've yet to see or hear about him doing more than that. He does have gorilla arms though, so maybe benching just isn't his thing. Pretty well all pros are strong, but some are stronger or weaker than others.
It could be that he doesnt go all out - doesn't want to get injuries etc.
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talking about gunter, is that old question. would you rather look really strong and not be that strong or be very strong and not look very strong.
ex. ed coan - doesnt look like much - esp. of the greatest powerlifters ever or gunter - looks huge but not really strong at all.
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Maybe Gunter just holds back on video because he doesn't want people to try to lift as much as he could and injure themselves! Maybe because he's a really nice and sweet guy, you ever think about that?
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I would prefer to look like Gunter. He's got the height, the size, the looks - if anything I would downsize a little bit if I was him because he would still look strong. Gunter is a great spokesman for bodybuilding.
Gunther is the shit.
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To many people are overly concerned about strenght unless you're a powerlifter . Arnold was lucky if he benched over 400 and his chest was among the best ever bodybuilding isn't about maximum poundages .
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We should make a Gunter vs Dorian vs Ronnie thread
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To many people are overly concerned about strenght unless you're a powerlifter . Arnold was lucky if he benched over 400 and his chest was among the best ever bodybuilding isn't about maximum poundages .
Hi ND, havn't seen you post on getbig for a while, where you been?
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I watched this guy at the gym incline 315 for 15 then went all the way up and did 475 for 6 and then at the end did a burn-out with 225 for probably 50+ reps. Craziest thing I have ever seen.
of course you did. ::)
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.0
;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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of course you did. ::)
??? Your right I made it all up...why is that hard for you to believe?
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"his form"? hahahaha, his "rows" were like long shrugs.
And that must be why his back development sucked so bad... ::)
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And that must be why his back development sucked so bad... ::)
ok, "studhammer", hahahaha. ::)
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hahaha he gets hammered by studs every night.
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Yes he does.
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hahaha he gets hammered by studs every night.
are you saying that "studhammer's" ass has seen more dick than the men's room urinals at a Chippendale's convention, Bast?
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Haha i quess thats what hes saying.