Author Topic: Dorian Strength Claims (Read 7736 times)

Shockwave · « **on:** August 02, 2006, 12:34:21 PM »

Are these believable?

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 Subject: Form Submission
name: Alan
location: Gass Valley, Calif. USA
Question: Dorian! Hello from the states! I am in awe of the strenght and effort that built your physique. I'm curious to know what is your strongest movment, are there feats of strenght you preformed that suprise even your peers? What max wieghts have you lifted? Were ther any strenght goals that you aimed for?

Hi Alan,
Some examples..Incline press 440 x 8 dumbell row 200x 10 Squat 600x 12 Dorian

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2006, 12:40:52 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on August 02, 2006, 12:34:21 PM

Are these believable?

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 Subject: Form Submission
name: Alan
location: Gass Valley, Calif. USA
Question: Dorian! Hello from the states! I am in awe of the strenght and effort that built your physique. I'm curious to know what is your strongest movment, are there feats of strenght you preformed that suprise even your peers? What max wieghts have you lifted? Were ther any strenght goals that you aimed for?

Hi Alan,
Some examples..Incline press 440 x 8 dumbell row 200x 10 Squat 600x 12 Dorian

Incline Press: Yes - watch his video

DB Row - a little light - I've read 215 for 12

Squat: Very light for his size - he didn't do squats after 94 i think

All of the lifts he mentioned seem a little light for what he's cpable of or what I've read/seen on video.

I think he was just being modest

sculpture · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2006, 12:48:44 PM »

600 for 12 isnt light for his size. Thats bloody heavy.

If its true its most likely performed on the smith machine; he dropped the free weight variation early on in his career.

sarcasm · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2006, 12:49:54 PM »

he did 425 for 6 incline on Blood and Guts that's a pretty long way from 440 for 12, the squats he did on the Smith.

sculpture · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2006, 12:50:54 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on August 02, 2006, 12:49:54 PM

he did 425 for 6 incline on Blood and Guts that's a pretty long way from 440 for 12, the squats he did on the Smith.

Its 440 for 8, not 12

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #5 on:** August 02, 2006, 12:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Big Poppa J on August 02, 2006, 12:40:52 PM

Incline Press: Yes - watch his video

DB Row - a little light - I've read 215 for 12

Squat: Very light for his size - he didn't do squats after 94 i think

All of the lifts he mentioned seem a little light for what he's cpable of or what I've read/seen on video.

I think he was just being modest

Stop smoking crack,Im checking the video now.And besides never belive a BB.
Dorian was pretty weak for his size and weight.

sculpture · « **Reply #6 on:** August 02, 2006, 12:56:14 PM »

Who ever said that he was maxing out in the video?

The rows are believable.

The squats as well.

Only point of contention is the incline presses which although in the video dont match the claims who's to say at another point and weight he wasnt able to handle 440.

IceCold · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:19:09 PM »

Quote from: IFBBwannaB on August 02, 2006, 12:51:43 PM

Stop smoking crack,Im checking the video now.And besides never belive a BB.
Dorian was pretty weak for his size and weight.

there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.

in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:20:46 PM »

Quote from: sculpture on August 02, 2006, 12:56:14 PM

Who ever said that he was maxing out in the video?

The rows are believable.

The squats as well.

Only point of contention is the incline presses which although in the video dont match the claims who's to say at another point and weight he wasnt able to handle 440.

He seems to struggle and get help from his spoter on most heavy sets.

sarcasm · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:21:03 PM »

Quote from: IceCold on August 02, 2006, 01:19:09 PM

there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.

in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.

"his form"? hahahaha, his "rows" were like long shrugs.

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:21:29 PM »

Quote from: IceCold on August 02, 2006, 01:19:09 PM

there arent more than a handful of guys who could use dorian's poundages with HIS FORM. huge difference.

in his first book, there are picutres of him doing various lifts, heavier than i've seen vids or pics. ex., bent over rows with a reverse grip using 475.

His form...please...

davidpaul · « **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:35:19 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on August 02, 2006, 01:33:14 PM

Dorian had decent strength for his size. Someone who does not who comes to mind is Gunter.

i've heard his before matt? does he just train very high reps with lighter weight? or just light beacuse he isnt strong,
very surpising though, hes around eddie ellwood size, and he very strong.

Scimowser · « **Reply #12 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:38:12 PM »

Gunter can incline about 365 in the offseason for 6-8 on his best day, which is pathetic for his size. However his grip strength is freaky, didnt he almost close something thats never been done before?

Dorian has dont bent over rows with a reverse grip using 440lbs for 6-7 reps which is insane. I believe his deadlift was up near 800 too. As fr eddy Ellwood, his best lifts are unfucking real!

davidpaul · « **Reply #13 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:41:08 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on August 02, 2006, 01:39:40 PM

I see Gunter in DVDs routinely using up to 315 for reps on the incline which is nothing special. I imagine I will be there before I ever touch a steroid. He does pretty well every exericise with light weight and not for high reps.

was he inclining that weight precontest?
as in a BFTO vid?

haider · « **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:41:51 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on August 02, 2006, 01:38:12 PM

Gunter can incline about 365 in the offseason for 6-8 on his best day, which is pathetic for his size. However his grip strength is freaky, didnt he almost close something thats never been done before?

I think he either came close to/ or closed the COC #3's. I think its the COC #4 thats the hardest one, not many people can close that one.

brianX · « **Reply #15 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:45:25 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on August 02, 2006, 01:38:12 PM

Gunter can incline about 365 in the offseason for 6-8 on his best day, which is pathetic for his size. However his grip strength is freaky, didnt he almost close something thats never been done before?

Dorian has dont bent over rows with a reverse grip using 440lbs for 6-7 reps which is insane. I believe his deadlift was up near 800 too. As fr eddy Ellwood, his best lifts are unfucking real!

365 for 8 on the incline is extremely strong for anyone.

davidpaul · « **Reply #16 on:** August 02, 2006, 01:46:57 PM »

Quote from: brianX on August 02, 2006, 01:45:25 PM

365 for 8 on the incline is extremely strong for anyone.

it is strong, but gunther weighs like 300 pounds, so relatively it isn't.

brianX · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2006, 02:01:32 PM »

I'm sure he could bench well over 500. Hardly "pathetic" for a 300 lb guy.

davidpaul · « **Reply #18 on:** August 02, 2006, 02:02:26 PM »

Quote from: brianX on August 02, 2006, 02:01:32 PM

I'm sure he could bench well over 500. Hardly "pathetic" for a 300 lb guy.

offseason i personally wouldnt douibt it.

Scimowser · « **Reply #19 on:** August 02, 2006, 02:05:48 PM »

365 on the incline for 6 reps equates to a 1rm of abot 440lbs. For a guy who is 330 offseason thats pretty piss poor in relation to his size and the amount he juices.