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since i'm from a muslim family i'm posting this..however..i have't seen it yet so this could backfire..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2365081171838960665&q=islam
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since i'm from a muslim family i'm posting this..however..i have't seen it yet so this could backfire..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2365081171838960665&q=islam
I think people who are not Islamic fear it because they fear the unknown. Its human nature to fear what you don't understand. I am watching it right now.
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The Muslim-American dude who cracks the joke about going overseas seems like a regular Joe. He was funny.
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I think people who are not Islamic fear it because they fear the unknown. Its human nature to fear what you don't understand. I am watching it right now.
Wow
good post
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haider dont take this post as "toxic believs in god now"....
if i did believe in god ok then i'd prolly either pick hinduism(surprise eh!) or islam...
however.i need to see god in an equation...
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haider dont take this post as "toxic believs in god now"....
if i did believe in god ok then i'd prolly either pick hinduism(surprise eh!) or islam...
however.i need to see god in an equation...
u know what, gimme some type to dig it up.. I remember from the christian vs muslim debates I used to watch, there was this one white math professor who was a muslim convert debating on the muslim side.. You may find what he has to say interesting.
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u know what, gimme some type to dig it up.. I remember from the christian vs muslim debates I used to watch, there was this one white math professor who was a muslim convert debating on the muslim side.. You may find what he has to say interesting.
you r on!
part duex
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=29738296087850507&q=who+is+afraid+of+islam
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part 3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3973264001528417676&q=who+is+afraid+of+islam
cant comment on part 2 and 3..since i'm not watching em today..
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here is another one to read :
rare occurance that toxic uses caps>
I'M NOT CLICKING ANYTHING WITH BEHEADING IN THE URL
SPREADING IT AROUND IS EXACTLY WHAT THESE LOWLIFE girls WANT
SO I WONT BE CLICKING YOUR LINX..THANX..
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rare occurance that toxic uses caps>
I'M NOT CLICKING ANYTHING WITH BEHEADING IN THE URL
SPREADING IT AROUND IS EXACTLY WHAT THESE LOWLIFE girls WANT
SO I WONT BE CLICKING YOUR LINX..THANX..
im with you on this bro, i accidently walked in on some sick fucks at uni watching one, fucked me up for a day. >:(
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im with you on this bro, i accidently walked in on some sick fucks at uni watching one, fucked me up for a day. >:(
when you click on such links someone someplace makes money >:(
that is about as bad as these submans.
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http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Good read for all you muzzie/symphathy givers.
Remember: It's better to be an alive bigot than a dead liberal!
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I think people who are not Islamic fear it because they fear the unknown. Its human nature to fear what you don't understand. I am watching it right now.
What a disgustingly liberal and faggy thing to say.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/DanielShyesteh.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/IRaza.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/ImranHossain51011.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/Sahid.htm
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What a disgustingly liberal and faggy thing to say.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/DanielShyesteh.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/IRaza.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/ImranHossain51011.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/Sahid.htm
Nordic, I am about as conservative as they come. People fear the unknown. How many westerners know anything about Muslims or Islam? Do you?
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How many westerners know anything about Muslims or Islam? Do you?
I know a lot. You cannot have an opinion on a subject you know nothing about.
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You cannot have an opinion on a subject you know nothing about.
IRONY
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I know a lot. You cannot have an opinion on a subject you know nothing about.
Intelligent post here. ::)
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Test me.
Haider, you'll refute my arguements because you are an Islamist :-*
Reality is a hard thing to deal with for muzzies!
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Beheaded by Muslims !
This beautiful young lady in Indonesia is one of three teenage girls who were recently beheaded by Muslims. They died for Jesus, whom they are now with. Will we live for Him? Let us remember these dear ones as we may be tempted to whine or complain about our minor daily challenges. (Go ahead; it is okay to weep for her.)
(Yes, this is gross. But shall we hide ourselves from the reality that they experienced, to keep ourselves comfortable? Comfortable Westerners need to be shocked to realize the kind of inhuman, cruel enemy we face.)
From a news report:
The teenagers were attacked on their way to their Christian school near the city of Poso, in the eastern province of Sulawesi, on 29 October.
Jakarta said recent attacks on the island were an attempt to foment religious hostility.
A girl who survived the attack reportedly told police there were six machete-wielding attackers, dressed in black and wearing masks.
About 400 police and 600 troops were ordered into the area following the incident amid fears that the killings would reignite religious unrest.
In the latest incident, gunmen shot and critically wounded two schoolgirls in Poso, on Tuesday.
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What an absolute disgrace >:(
Islam: Religion of Pieces (mainly heads and torsos).
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Why the fuck would you even post that? You sick fuck.
Like you honestly give a flying fuck about that poor Indonesian girl, if you had any respect for that girl you wouldn't be posting a picture of her desecrated body on an internet forum.
The problem is that you don't fear Islam at all, but rather you hate people of mideastern and south asian origin, that's the real cause. If they were Christian you'd be looking for a different excuse.
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The problem is that you don't fear Islam at all, but rather you hate people of mideastern and south asian origin, that's the real cause. If they were Christian you'd be looking for a different excuse.
You're an idiot. Nothing to do with race. It's the actions in the name of islam that are at question here...
Find me a picture of a young beheaded girl in the name of Judaism.
Find me a video of the last public beheading in the name of Christianity.
Find me a video of the last public stoning in the name of Buddhism.
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Intelligent post here. ::)
Ignore him, he's just another attention starved hate mongering retard. This loud mouthed asshole needs to be put in his place though.
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Ignore him, he's just another attention starved hate mongering retard. This loud mouthed asshole needs to be put in his place though.
Hate mongering? Like the followers of islam, preaching generalised hate for the west (across several different nations i might add)?
Put me in my place bitch!
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You say I am full of hate ?
This is your response to seeing a photo of an Innocent young girl that was beheaded on her way to school, only because of her religion.
It is people of your religion that did this, yet I am full of hate because I post a photo ?
You are delusional :o
Facts :
It is people of your faith (Muslims) that are going around killing Innocent woman and children
it is your homeland that it is dangerous to be of another religion (besides Muslim)
In America, Do you see Muslim school children being beheaded by Christian's while walking to school ? No !
Here in America, we welcome people of all backgrounds and all religions, can you say the same for many of the Muslim Countries ?
I think the one's who are full of hate, are many Muslims,
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it is your homeland that it is dangerous to be of another religion (beside Muslim)
Not only is it dangerous non-muslim males have to pay a special non-muzzie tax called "Jizya": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
Oh praise this wonderful religion of peace and freedom! ::)
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i know and have a few friends that are muslims
afraid of it? no...should be you? no
you can't fear something you have no control over...or even why should you? an extremist could be anyone..not just someone who follows islam...
and not all muslims are extremists! *shrug*
is profiling wrong? yes...does it happen? you bet..even i'm guilty of it. The only thing that should be feared is those people of weak mind that are easily influenced by outside sources.
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if you're gonna fear anyone...i'd fear any other "bible belt" religion just as much as i would a muslim! most of those are out to construe our rights here in our own country! AND THEY LIVE HERE! and you know what i'm talking about! a biased christian president making decisions and choices based off his religious beliefs and not common sense!
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Not all Muslims are terrorists....but all terrorists are Muslims!
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Beheaded by Muslims !
This beautiful young lady in Indonesia is one of three teenage girls who were recently beheaded by Muslims. They died for Jesus, whom they are now with. Will we live for Him? Let us remember these dear ones as we may be tempted to whine or complain about our minor daily challenges. (Go ahead; it is okay to weep for her.)
(Yes, this is gross. But shall we hide ourselves from the reality that they experienced, to keep ourselves comfortable? Comfortable Westerners need to be shocked to realize the kind of inhuman, cruel enemy we face.)
From a news report:
The teenagers were attacked on their way to their Christian school near the city of Poso, in the eastern province of Sulawesi, on 29 October.
Jakarta said recent attacks on the island were an attempt to foment religious hostility.
A girl who survived the attack reportedly told police there were six machete-wielding attackers, dressed in black and wearing masks.
About 400 police and 600 troops were ordered into the area following the incident amid fears that the killings would reignite religious unrest.
In the latest incident, gunmen shot and critically wounded two schoolgirls in Poso, on Tuesday.
The sick fuckers responsible for this would sure as hell be killing people even if religion weren't involved! >:(
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How many Schools have Christians torched ?
Muslims torch a school that taught Girls
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1483206
ANDAHAR, Afghanistan Jan 8, 2006 (AP)— Suspected Taliban gunmen burned down a primary school in Afghanistan's main southern city Sunday, the latest in a spate of attacks against teachers and institutions that educate girls.
No one was hurt in the pre-dawn attacks against the Qabail Primary School in Kandahar, said Hayabullah Rafiqi Othak, Kandahar province's education director.
A group of men tied up two security guards and made bonfires of books and wooden desks that eventually razed the whole building, he said. The school, which was on a two-month vacation, taught some 700 boys and girls.
Dozens of schools have been burned since U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban in 2001 for sheltering Osama bin Laden. Most of the attacks have come at night and have caused no deaths.
On Tuesday, however, suspected rebels beheaded the headmaster of another coed school in the region.
The Taliban maintains that educating girls is against Islam and also opposes government-funded schools for boys because they teach subjects besides religion.
Othak said reconstruction of the Qabail school would start immediately and some classes could resume when vacation ends in March.
The attack came hours guards scared away arsonists who tried to set fire to another school in Kandahar, he said.
Five suspects were arrested in the attempted attack, said deputy provincial police chief Abdul Hakim Hungar.
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An Islamic Guide on How to Beat Your Wife
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/29/182604.php
An imam who wrote a book on how to beat your wife without leaving marks on her body has been ordered by a judge in Spain to study the country's constitution.
The judge told Mohamed Kamal Mustafa, imam of a mosque in the southern resort of Fuengirola, to spend six months studying three articles of the constitution and the universal declaration of human rights.
Mr. Mustafa was sentenced to 15 months in jail and fined about $2,600 last year after being found guilty of inciting violence against women.
A judge released him after 22 days in jail on the condition that he undertake a re-education course. " More...
Does anyone still have doubts about Islam and the subjugation of women? What sort of religious leaders write books on how to beat women without leaving bodily bruises? Please educate us backward western infidels - we would sure like to understand this in the spirit of better understanding our divergent ideologies!
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Not all Muslims are terrorists....but all terrorists are Muslims!
Indeed.
The sick fuckers responsible for this would sure as hell be killing people even if religion weren't involved! >:(
But religion was involved and that religion was islam. Why are you unable to accept this and keep dodging the FACT? ??? For a conservative you're very liberal.
I quote:
"Humankind cannot stand very much reality." - T. S. Eliot
This rings true with you bmacsys.
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I don't see any benefit in belonging to some religion where the women have to look like Darth Vader.
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if you're gonna fear anyone...i'd fear any other "bible belt" religion just as much as i would a muslim! most of those are out to construe our rights here in our own country! AND THEY LIVE HERE! and you know what i'm talking about! a biased christian president making decisions and choices based off his religious beliefs and not common sense!
sure whatever you say ::)
photos of Muslims, that you should not fear .......accroding to Liberals
(http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/files/bodysmall4.jpg)
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I AM very pleased however with the islamic community outting those that are misrepresenting them and causing this kind of problem. I'm sure they're as sick of the profiling as anyone else and don't want to be blamed as a whole for this kind of behavior.
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Not all Muslims are terrorists....but all terrorists are Muslims!
(http://www.lizmichael.com/tmcveigh.jpg)
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notice that shit doens't happen in any country worth living it...
it's in countries where people have nothing to look forward to but death. notice theyr'e not hanging anyone from the boston bridge or from big ben in london... ::)
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There's always an exception to the rule Mr. "Intense"
Eldon, what sickens me the most is the total lack of humanity from those fuckers.
Check out their casual behaviour and smiles around a corpse of another human being. Even the muzzie kids are loving it too.
A total disgrace. The middle east needs wiping off the map.
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Indeed.
But religion was involved and that religion was islam. Why are you unable to accept this and keep dodging the FACT? ??? For a conservative you're very liberal.
I quote:
"Humankind cannot stand very much reality." - T. S. Eliot
This rings true with you bmacsys.
Maybe he's a conservative.....Muslim?
Liberal muslims would admit the flaws in Islam.
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A total disgrace. The middle east needs wiping off the map.
You condem the killing of a few thousand people by terrorists but support the killing of hundreds of millions and the destruction of numerous countries?
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You condem the killing of a few thousand people by terrorists but support the killing of hundreds of millions and the destruction of numerous countries?
Tyrone, Johnny its good to have u back here ;)
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You condem the killing of a few thousand people by terrorists but support the killing of hundreds of millions and the destruction of numerous countries?
such is the way of things...
in war most of society accepts casualties will be part of it...it's war...it's how it always has been.
BUT to do it without any justified reason? that's usually where the later comes in...
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You say I am full of hate ?
This is your response to seeing a photo of an Innocent young girl that was beheaded on her way to school, only because of her religion.
It is people of your religion that did this, yet I am full of hate because I post a photo ?
You are delusional :o
Facts :
It is people of your faith (Muslims) that are going around killing Innocent woman and children
it is your homeland that it is dangerous to be of another religion (besides Muslim)
In America, Do you see Muslim school children being beheaded by Christian's while walking to school ? No !
Here in America, we welcome people of all backgrounds and all religions, can you say the same for many of the Muslim Countries ?
I think the one's who are full of hate, are many Muslims,
I personally don't like Islam or any other religion. I think Islam is dumb and backwards.
But my point is that there are many who were just born into it, its their culture, they should not be held accountable for 9/11, the London bombings and numerous other terrorist attacks. I cannot control what's taught at the mosque, I can simply choose not to go there. I'd much rather smoke a joint and then stare at a school of ducks at the local park.
So that's my whole point, don't hold every single muslim accountable, it's stupid. In the end it just leads to blind hate. I live in NY and there's a big Sikh and Hindu community in Queens and discrimination against them has gone up a lot after 9/11. These are the some of most peaceful and respectful people you'll come across and it's a travesty they have to suffer because of ignorance.
A Sikh man was beaten to death by a group of people who were supposedly angry about 9/11, several temples were firebombed. Sikhs are not even muslims. The assholes who commited those crimes seem no different from people like you.
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Not all Muslims are terrorists....but all terrorists are Muslims!
Bingo!
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You condem the killing of a few thousand people by terrorists but support the killing of hundreds of millions and the destruction of numerous countries?
It depends? Is the populace of the middle east of Nordic origin? If not... hang em! :P
In all seriousness obviously wiping out the population of the middle east is said in jest (read: infeasible).
However, I believe education in science and morals should be forced upon them.
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you americans are soooooooooo stupid sometimes.
you welcome people from other races as long as they're not in power and work minimum wage jobs. You need cashiers at McDonalds right, and janitors too!
Whenever there is a crime, it's always handy to have a "young black male" to throw the book at, or someone of "arab origin" whenever you want buildings destroyed.
And then when shit hit the proverbial fan, and people start questionning certain american beliefs or official report, all you have to say is "it is anti-american to say such things, our national security is at risk, just keep spending your money and pu american flags everywhere" to make them shut up.
muslims are not a danger, guys fighthing with old kalachnikov don't have the brains to pull anything remotely dangerous to your security but U.S. foreign policy is!!!
You guys are dangers to yourselves, but since you,re teh chosen nation, what bad could possibly come out of you right????
P.S. face it: F.D.R. knew about Pearl Arbour's vulnerability
You sold weapons to saddam, then iran and you trained Bin Laden
911 was staged, you need something to keep military-industries happy.
There you have it
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I don't see any benefit in belonging to some religion where the women have to look like Darth Vader.
I have a feeling those 2 are hotties . . . wish i could find out.
about the all terrorists are muslims comment . . . good christian white folks would never bomb other christian folks' churches in the US, would they ?
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I have a feeling those 2 are hotties . . . wish i could find out.
about the all terrorists are muslims comment . . . good christian white folks would never bomb other christian folks' churches in the US, would they ?
did anyone watch the friggin movie??? >:( anyhow..i crashed my PC so i'm on a laptop..and i fucking laptops....that goes for cell phones also...
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did anyone watch the friggin movie??? >:( anyhow..i crashed my PC so i'm on a laptop..and i fucking laptops....that goes for cell phones also...
dude, if I had to post from a desktop, i would never post . . . right now I'm sitting in a recliner watching curb your enthusiasm . . . couldn't do that if I had to use a desktop.
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dude, if I had to post from a desktop, i would never post . . . right now I'm sitting in a recliner watching curb your enthusiasm . . . couldn't do that if I had to use a desktop.
i dunno how 2 type..soo its hard on a laptop 4 me >:(
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(http://www.lizmichael.com/tmcveigh.jpg)
What about the IRA in Northern Ireland, or ETA in Spain. I could go on...
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according to me the islamic laws are very strict...even if you commit a small robbery also the punishment is very severe..for eg in once read in a news paper that guy was caught stealing some money in saudi arabia and the reslut was his hands were chopped off...if any one commits rape or a murder,it results in death sentence..most of the death sentences are carried publically that is the accused are killed in public..so wat scare me are the islamic laws.there is video wich shows a guys penis being cut off because he committed rape.also there is a law in saudi arabia wich is that if a person commits any crime on friday,the punishment the punishment is that the accused would be buried till his neck and the public are requested to throw stones at him..they keep on throwing stones at his head and they throw stone to the very end of his death..these muslim laws are dangerous and bloody strict
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You say I am full of hate ?
This is your response to seeing a photo of an Innocent young girl that was beheaded on her way to school, only because of her religion.
It is people of your religion that did this, yet I am full of hate because I post a photo ?
You are delusional :o
Facts :
It is people of your faith (Muslims) that are going around killing Innocent woman and children
it is your homeland that it is dangerous to be of another religion (besides Muslim)
In America, Do you see Muslim school children being beheaded by Christian's while walking to school ? No !
Here in America, we welcome people of all backgrounds and all religions, can you say the same for many of the Muslim Countries ?
I think the one's who are full of hate, are many Muslims,
i wanst going to get involved until i saw this post. what the F*CK are you talking about buddy. no cristian kids dont behead people but i think i would rather be dead then to be hated upon everyday because of my skin color, my religion, or the way i look. I dont care where you are from everyone hates it is human nature. Christians who go to church every week are still judgemental and full of hate the differance weve been taught to verbally abuse instead of kill. how many times have the words black, honkey, cracker, raghead, or spic, wetback, (the list goes on) come out of your mouth loud enough or not for someone else to hear. how many times do people of color get followed thru a store because there black and they might steal something. or just what yall are doing, hating on a whole religion because of the actions of few. how many muslims are there in the world and how many of them are killing you cannot judge a group by the actions of a few hundred or maybe thousands of individuals actions.... because if thats the case every german is a f*cking nazi... and every white man in america is a f*cking land thief and murderer. we can also say that every whiteman is a f*cking slave trader rapist and murderer. so cmon dont be so closed minded people are people we all have struggles, hardships and other problems but most of all we have life and either way we all bleed the same blood.
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Firstly... break up your sentances, they are hard to read.
Secondly... you really don't know the scale of things if you think there are only 100s or 1000s of muslim extremists.
I would say, 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies will publically broadcast their opinions. That is 100,000,000 people.
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Firstly... break up your sentances, they are hard to read.
Secondly... you really don't know the scale of things if you think there are only 100s or 1000s of muslim extremists.
I would say, 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies will publically broadcast their opinions. That is 100,000,000 people.
all im saying superman, is that 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies. Well if that is the case there are 90% who dont that to me is a lot of good people being judged unfairly. How many muslims everyday get killed by there own people, and same with americans... and there are 2 kinds of muslims the extermists who are taught that way in there religion, and then the muslims who believe that murder is a sin and so forth..
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all im saying superman, is that 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies. Well if that is the case there are 90% who dont that to me is a lot of good people being judged unfairly. How many muslims everyday get killed by there own people, and same with americans... and there are 2 kinds of muslims the extermists who are taught that way in there religion, and then the muslims who believe that murder is a sin and so forth..
Righty... you think it's that simple? You think you can possibly compare the middle east with western europe?
There are so many variables you can't just make "matter of fact" comments on the topic.
I get the impression you're just believing whatever option provides you the easiest path through life. You a prime target for conversion.
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Righty... you think it's that simple? You think you can possibly compare the middle east with western europe?
There are so many variables you can't just make "matter of fact" comments on the topic.
I get the impression you're just believing whatever option provides you the easiest path through life. You a prime target for conversion.
No way superman i must object to your comment on me believing whatever option provides me the easiet path. I would like to believe that I am of but a few that take the path less traveled.. such as yourself or so i would presume that you also think this way.. Am i correct??????????
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according to me the islamic laws are very strict...even if you commit a small robbery also the punishment is very severe..for eg in once read in a news paper that guy was caught stealing some money in saudi arabia and the reslut was his hands were chopped off...if any one commits rape or a murder,it results in death sentence..most of the death sentences are carried publically that is the accused are killed in public..so wat scare me are the islamic laws.there is video wich shows a guys penis being cut off because he committed rape.also there is a law in saudi arabia wich is that if a person commits any crime on friday,the punishment the punishment is that the accused would be buried till his neck and the public are requested to throw stones at him..they keep on throwing stones at his head and they throw stone to the very end of his death..these muslim laws are dangerous and bloody strict
crime rate in saudi is VERY low..
and rapists and murders SHOULD have their fucking heads taken off in public...
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Firstly... break up your sentances, they are hard to read.
Secondly... you really don't know the scale of things if you think there are only 100s or 1000s of muslim extremists.
I would say, 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies will publically broadcast their opinions. That is 100,000,000 people.
10 % is bogus.
That may be the case with the middle east and pakistan, I boubt a country like Bangladesh or Kazakhstan has that kinda number.
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10 % is bogus.
That may be the case with the middle east and pakistan, I boubt a country like Bangladesh or Kazakhstan has that kinda number.
That 10% refers to the muzzies I have met in US and Britain. I bet it is much higher in countries such as Paki/Mid East.
Bottom line: there are atleast tens of millions of "muslim extremists" (or for a better word: direct followers of islam), not this 100's or 1000's that was spoken of earlier in this thread ::)
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That 10% refers to the muzzies I have met in US and Britain. I bet it is much higher in countries such as Paki/Mid East.
Bottom line: there are atleast tens of millions of "muslim extremists" (or for a better word: direct followers of islam), not this 100's or 1000's that was spoken of earlier in this thread ::)
Who have you met in the US?
I have never met anyone with extremist views in New York, and NY is packed full of muslims. I'm sure there are some, but I've never come across one. However, they are too pussy to speak out against Islam, but that's not the criteria for being a terrorist.
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BTW I like this new term "muzzy"
After I saw Bend it like Beckham, I started using "Paki" to piss off Pakistanis and Indians, that shit threw some Indian kids into rage when I dissed them at a pickup football game.
I wonder if muzzy will be as effective?
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Who have you met in the US?
I have never met anyone with extremist views in New York, and NY is packed full of muslims. I'm sure there are some, but I've never come across one. However, they are too pussy to speak out against Islam, but that's not the criteria for being a terrorist.
There was a mosque near a gym I goto in Irvine, CA, that's where.
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There was a mosque near a gym I goto in Irvine, CA, that's where.
So you went into the mosque or snooped around to get to know the people or to get an idea on their views? ::)
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So you went into the mosque or snooped around to get to know the people or to get an idea on their views? ::)
Work it out... To justify the mosques existence there must of been a community of muzzies there, low and behold some of these muslims went to the gym! My accent attracts attention, making it easier to socialise with strangers.
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There are a few problems I have with Islam.
1. The honour crap. Honour Rapes and Killing.
Killing your sister if she had sex out of wedlock. Raping women who cheat on their husbands.
2. Female circumcision and genital mutilation.
3. Apostasy
4. Jihad
5. Inequality of Women and other minority religious groups.
Women have farless rights in most of the Muslim world and in the strict states like Northern Pakistan, women are forbidden to go to school, Burka's. Need to be accompanied by a male family member.
I think most religions have very similar goals, however I think that Islam is being sideswiped by some extremely hardline and Conservative groups.
Until the moderates start dealing with these hard line elements, the gap between western thought and Conservative Islam will only grow.
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There are a few problems I have with Islam.
1. The honour crap. Honour Rapes and Killing.
Killing your sister if she had sex out of wedlock. Raping women who cheat on their husbands.
2. Female circumcision and genital mutilation.
3. Apostasy
4. Jihad
5. Inequality of Women and other minority religious groups.
Women have farless rights in most of the Muslim world and in the strict states like Northern Pakistan, women are forbidden to go to school, Burka's. Need to be accompanied by a male family member.
I think most religions have very similar goals, however I think that Islam is being sideswiped by some extremely hardline and Conservative groups.
Until the moderates start dealing with these hard line elements, the gap between western thought and Conservative Islam will only grow.
#5 on your list used to regard women in this country, women couldnt vote, never were allowed to go past a certain grade and so forth. So all of the rights women do not have in that country our women in the U.S. didnt have for quite a while.. maybe that could be a reason our troops are there. To help liberate a country that doesn't know the blessings and luck that we have to be free.
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Before 9-11 I would tell the women I new to start funding womens liberation groups in these areas.
Iraq is a huge disappointment for me. I thought that when Saddam was removed the Iraq would join together and push itself towards democracy.
Instead it has become very fractured, with each of the three main groups fight amongst themselves for control.
What is really sad is that these groups aren't even targeting Americans anymore. They are much more interested in killing each other.
Hopefully the bloom of democracy can flower, like in Turkey, before it is plucked by insurgents.
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Before 9-11 I would tell the women I new to start funding womens liberation groups in these areas.
Iraq is a huge disappointment for me. I thought that when Saddam was removed the Iraq would join together and push itself towards democracy.
Instead it has become very fractured, with each of the three main groups fight amongst themselves for control.
What is really sad is that these groups aren't even targeting Americans anymore. They are much more interested in killing each other.
Hopefully the bloom of democracy can flower, like in Turkey, before it is plucked by insurgents.
That is a very good point (kudos) but the only thing is everyone shouldve expected there to be a fight for power imagine what it would be like if our countries leaders were overthrown (it would never happen) how many people would be vieng for power and to become leader. it's understandable it is and was there country.
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how many people would be vieng for power and to become leader. it's understandable it is and was there country.
So true.
I still have hope that it will emerge as one of the strongest and most tolerant nations in the middle east.
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So true.
I still have hope that it will emerge as one of the strongest and most tolerant nations in the middle east.
I believe that it might have a damn strong chance, because not only all the strugle that they've had. But because of the freedom that they will experience and the joy that they will fell. the same joy that we take for granted everyday..
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(http://www.lizmichael.com/tmcveigh.jpg)
I love how people always bring up McVeigh. ::)
That's just about the ONLY American example there is, against the tens of thousands of examples of Muslim terrorist strikes.
Here's the other difference.... McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, and as soon as their fellow white Christians found out what they had done, they didn't give them a medal and send them financial support as supposedly "non-terrorist" Muslims would have done.... no, they hunted them down and put them in jail. That's the biggest difference... our "mainstream" folks vilify our terrorists, the Muslims glorify theirs. >:(
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I love how people always bring up McVeigh. ::)
That's just about the ONLY American example there is, against the tens of thousands of examples of Muslim terrorist strikes.
Here's the other difference.... McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, and as soon as their fellow white Christians found out what they had done, they didn't give them a medal and send them financial support as supposedly "non-terrorist" Muslims would have done.... no, they hunted them down and put them in jail. That's the biggest difference... our "mainstream" folks vilify our terrorists, the Muslims glorify theirs. >:(
Exactly. I've already said:
Liberal apologists will always shout about the exception to the rule.
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What about Ted Kazinski?
There are links between Waco, Oklahoma City and Columbine.
April 19. Although Columbine did happen on he 20th of April. Most believe the 19th was the original date.
These people find glory in their own groups as well.
Extremists in any form suck.
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What about Ted Kazinski?
There are links between Waco, Oklahoma City and Columbine.
April 19. Although Columbine did happen on he 20th of April. Most believe the 19th was the original date.
These people find glory in their own groups as well.
Extremists in any form suck.
No its not just extremists that suck.... its STUPID MOTHER F*CKERS W/ NO INTELLIGANCE that suck... like my whole thing in life is, its easy to attack and hurt people. But to make people feel good about themselves is a true task in itself...... see how hard it is to be nice to everyone yo meet for one day... its one F*CKING day out of 365 and you'll see what im saying......
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What about Ted Kazinski?
He wasn't political, nor was he targeting people completely randomly... he was your garden-variety nutbag. Basically a serial killer.
There are links between Waco, Oklahoma City and Columbine.
April 19. Although Columbine did happen on he 20th of April. Most believe the 19th was the original date.
Wow. You've been listening to 240's conspiracy theories waaaaay too long. Colimbine was simply a run-of-the-mill crime, not "terrorism", at least not the way we mean the word when we're talking about the crap the muslims are pulling.
Waco? that was the cops trying to arrest some nutbags and getting into a shootout with them. How the fucck is that terrorism or even related to it? ::)
OKC would be properly defined as terrorism (indiscriminately targeting large numbers of civilians to further a political cause), but again, it's one of the few non-muslim-related examples you can find.
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i've mentioned it once before, but it bears mentioning again . . . in the US we've had plenty of race-related terrorism . . . in fact, only a year or two some kids were firebombing churches somewhere in the South. but, as others have mentioned, our justice system tends to make sure these people get what they deserve.
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I love how people always bring up McVeigh. ::)
That's just about the ONLY American example there is, against the tens of thousands of examples of Muslim terrorist strikes.
Here's the other difference.... McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, and as soon as their fellow white Christians found out what they had done, they didn't give them a medal and send them financial support as supposedly "non-terrorist" Muslims would have done.... no, they hunted them down and put them in jail. That's the biggest difference... our "mainstream" folks vilify our terrorists, the Muslims glorify theirs. >:(
Not really.. you have to take into account a bunch of factors including lower levels of education, repressive governments, frustrations with American foreign policy, etc to explain the current situation we have with "terrorism". It is a purely a political problem than it is a "religiously fueled" problem as some would have you believe. Religiouis fanaticism is only an outlet of anger ans frustration and there is nothing that would suggest otherwise. Terrorism has no basis in Islam.
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Not really.. you have to take into account a bunch of factors including lower levels of education, repressive governments, frustrations with American foreign policy, etc to explain the current situation we have with "terrorism". It is a purely a political problem than it is a "religiously fueled" problem as some would have you believe. Religiouis fanaticism is only an outlet of anger ans frustration and there is nothing that would suggest otherwise. Terrorism has no basis in Islam.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Whether Islam is the root cause or merely an outlet for frustrations born of other origins as you suggest, this does not change the fact that the Muslim world is the seat of terrorism in the world today, and Muslim society and the terrorist ethos are irrevocably intermixed.
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haha, "terrorism".. the word makes me giggle. There is a complete double standard here as to how we label people here in the west. An airplane strike that kills innocents is collateral damage whereas a suicide bomber that hits a market is "terrorism" (not that it isn't...both are) A mroe recent example would be that of Israel's bombardment of a democractic nation. They tear up the whole country, destroy the CIVILIAN infrastructure and make life miserable for the common man (kill hundreds upon hundreds in the process)....in the name of destroying Hezbollah. How ironic.
There is anger towards the west (US), primarily because of it's unconditional support for Israel. And "Operation Iraqi Freedom" didn't help calm the situation either, as opposed to what our president claims. In fact the situation has gotten to its absolute worst with the amount of terrorism (domestic terrorism, civil war, etc) growing exponentially.
I'm not justifying terrorism here, rather I'm trying to say that the situation is MUCH mroe complicated than many think(I would also say that is beyond my scope to explain these things more adequately). Simply blaming religion for these problems is an Epic Self-Delusion (the irony here is that once u blame religion, and hate people for their religion, you put yourself in the same category as the people you hate)
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haha, "terrorism".. the word makes me giggle. There is a complete double standard here as to how we label people here in the west. An airplane strike that kills innocents is collateral damage whereas a suicide bomber that hits a market is "terrorism" (not that it isn't...both are)
Perhaps I should define the term as I am intending it to mean: terrorism = "the intentional and systematic targeting of civilian non-combatants by an ad-hoc group as a means of sending a political message."
Note the key words : INTENTIONAL TARGETING. Collateral damage is just that... the civilians weren't the targets, and were accidentally and unintentionally hit. There's no way I believe you can't see the distinction... you're just arguing for "your side", right or wrong.
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hey, when 9 out of 10 people killed are civlians, u can only push the "collateral damge" theory so far :-\
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I'm gona head out for the day (long one today). adios 8)
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I'm gona head out for the day (long one today). adios 8)
Translation:
"Shit i've been owned! Another muslim slain! My blind support for islam has been exposed! Durka durka!"
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LOL! That was pathetic attempt at getting back at me.
Same old nonsensical, baseless ad hominem attacks. The conversation with goatboy was actually a pleasant and peaceful one (notice the lack of insults and nonsensical BS). This exchange of ideas is almost impossible with your kind.
So why dont u crawl back into your cave and let the adults talk. And yes, while you're at it, maybe you can explain how anyone got "owned".
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LOL! That was pathetic attempt at getting back at me.
Same old nonsensical, baseless ad hominem attacks. The conversation with goatboy was actually a pleasant and peaceful one (notice the lack of insults and nonsensical BS). This exchange of ideas is almost impossible with your kind.
So why dont u crawl back into your cave and let the adults talk. And yes, while you're at it, maybe you can explain how anyone got "owned".
Caves are actually the favourite habitat of Homo sapien sub species muzzy.
You can't answer any of the questions i've had about islam. You just play the same rhetoric.
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Muzzy and Libby are his favorate opening personal insult salvos followed by citing how if it wasn't for England the world would still be in the stone age while he wishes he had enough money to eat FRENCH food at the fat duck.
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Muzzy and Libby are his favorate opening personal insult salvos followed by citing how if it wasn't for England the world would still be inthe stone while he wishes he had enough money to eat FRENCH food at the fat duck.
LOL, owned.
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Your evil deeds is gonna strike back at you sooner or later
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Muzzy and Libby are his favorate opening personal insult salvos followed by citing how if it wasn't for England the world would still be in the stone age while he wishes he had enough money to eat FRENCH food at the fat duck.
:P
I love you too you slag!
Obviously the "libby" comment in the other thread upset you, I apologise. :'(
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Nordic Superman is just some stupid British pussy that probably got his ass beat by a gang of Pakistani immigrants.
Did you enjoy seeing that double-decker in ruins bitch? Well get ready to see more. :D
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:P
I love you too you slag!
Obviously the "libby" comment in the other thread upset you, I apologise. :'(
No it didn't upset me. But would let a little tiny bug bite you with out swatting it?
Remember i still LOVE England.
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There was a mosque near a gym I goto in Irvine, CA, that's where.
nrd..plez stop posting in my threads from now on plez..i ask as a fello gentry....
for al threads end up being useless dribble as soon as you sprout your redundant retoric.. WE HATE MUSLIMS.. .and we fucking get it...
ok...
i'm gonna assume you r gonna comply :)
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There are a few problems I have with Islam.
1. The honour crap. Honour Rapes and Killing.
Killing your sister if she had sex out of wedlock. Raping women who cheat on their husbands.
2. Female circumcision and genital mutilation.
3. Apostasy
4. Jihad
5. Inequality of Women and other minority religious groups.
Women have farless rights in most of the Muslim world and in the strict states like Northern Pakistan, women are forbidden to go to school, Burka's. Need to be accompanied by a male family member.
I think most religions have very similar goals, however I think that Islam is being sideswiped by some extremely hardline and Conservative groups.
Until the moderates start dealing with these hard line elements, the gap between western thought and Conservative Islam will only grow.
i'm drunk ..soooo i'm gonna take my goves off for a round..
Pakistn ..the SECOND largest population of muslims in the world has HAD a female ruler..
should i continue orrrr..nah..think i dont need to..i hope so
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I love how people always bring up McVeigh. ::)
That's just about the ONLY American example there is, against the tens of thousands of examples of Muslim terrorist strikes.
Here's the other difference.... McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, and as soon as their fellow white Christians found out what they had done, they didn't give them a medal and send them financial support as supposedly "non-terrorist" Muslims would have done.... no, they hunted them down and put them in jail. That's the biggest difference... our "mainstream" folks vilify our terrorists, the Muslims glorify theirs. >:(
STFU man..you are ALREADY white..no need to prove it over n over man..does your wifey know ya post thios crap??.sgh i thought you were rich and worldly..fucking lemming....
dont actually makemework to equal the score..actualy i'm too lazy to anyhow..and u know this...but plez..STUF....dont make me lose any more respect for ya man...
i think u r fairly smart..and know you care about my opinion of you..sooo..hush..dont get carried away ..lemmesque..
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What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Whether Islam is the root cause or merely an outlet for frustrations born of other origins as you suggest, this does not change the fact that the Muslim world is the seat of terrorism in the world today, and Muslim society and the terrorist ethos are irrevocably intermixed.
ok goat..ISLAM = EVIL..
then u the fuck r you buying 95% of oil running this country from terrorists???
cause that money YOUR money wil be funneled to terrorism RIGHT?
see..ALL IT TAKES IS someone will subpar intelligence to shut you up...take your time..think of a responce my putter crashed..you will have plenty of time to do so)...
stop making me lose respect for ya bro...i consider you smarter...
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ok goat..ISLAM = EVIL..
What do you care, you're not Muslim.
then u the f**k r you buying 95% of oil running this country from terrorists???
95% ::)
You've been listening to the news too much.
About half of our oil is produced domestically.
Of the half that is imported, the largest suppliers are Canada and Mexico.
Saudi is third, Venezuela is 4th, followed by all the other sources, that include both muslim countries like Kuwait and non-Muslim countries like Nigeria.
In all, maybe 10-12% of our oil at most comes from Muslim countries. They're a much larger supplier for Europe and Japan than for us.
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What do you care, you're not Muslim.
but my family is ya c u n t..did ya forget?
95% ::)
About half of our oil is produced domestically.
Of the half that is imported, the largest suppliers are Canada and Mexico.
man ..o..im gonna go have another drink..the fact ya actualy believe that is like a friend telling me a coulda gotten laid story...stressfull >:(
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man ..o..im gonna go have another drink..the fact ya actualy believe that is like a friend telling me a coulda gotten laid story...stressfull >:(
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
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http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
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OH MY GOOOOD! A LINK!!! gasp!..the truth..i have founded me the truth!! its a link lol...!!!..I WONT bother clicking..yeesh ::)
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Toxic-
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Pakistan)
01 Dr. Iskander Mirza March 23, 1956 October 27, 1958 Republican Party
02 Muhammad Ayub Khan October 27, 1958 March 25, 1969 Military
03 Yahya Khan March 25, 1969 December 20, 1971 Military
04 Zulfikar Ali Bhutto December 20, 1971 August 13, 1973 Pakistan People's Party
05 Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry August 13, 1973 September 16, 1978 Pakistan People's Party
06 Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq September 16, 1978 August 17, 1988 Military
07 Ghulam Ishaq Khan August 17, 1988 July 18, 1993 No party
08 Wasim Sajjad July 18, 1993 November 14, 1993 Pakistan Muslim League (N)
09 Farooq Leghari November 14, 1993 December 2, 1997 Pakistan People's Party
10[1] Wasim Sajjad December 2, 1997 January 1, 1998 Pakistan Muslim League (N)
11 Muhammad Rafiq Tarar January 1, 1998 June 20, 2001 Pakistan Muslim League (N)
12 Pervez Musharraf June 20, 2001 In Office Military
I can't find any women that ruled Pakistan.
Help me out who was she?
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Nordic Superman is just some stupid British pussy that probably got his ass beat by a gang of Pakistani immigrants.
Did you enjoy seeing that double-decker in ruins bitch? Well get ready to see more. :D
Wow...
I'm going to track you down and eat your children.
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OH MY GOOOOD! A LINK!!! gasp!..the truth..i have founded me the truth!! its a link lol...!!!..I WONT bother clicking..yeesh ::)
translation:
"I called BS, Goatboy responded by citing sources, I think I'll just melt down now." :-\
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Toxic-
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Pakistan)
01 Dr. Iskander Mirza March 23, 1956 October 27, 1958 Republican Party
02 Muhammad Ayub Khan October 27, 1958 March 25, 1969 Military
03 Yahya Khan March 25, 1969 December 20, 1971 Military
04 Zulfikar Ali Bhutto December 20, 1971 August 13, 1973 Pakistan People's Party
05 Fazal Ilahi Chaudhry August 13, 1973 September 16, 1978 Pakistan People's Party
06 Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq September 16, 1978 August 17, 1988 Military
07 Ghulam Ishaq Khan August 17, 1988 July 18, 1993 No party
08 Wasim Sajjad July 18, 1993 November 14, 1993 Pakistan Muslim League (N)
09 Farooq Leghari November 14, 1993 December 2, 1997 Pakistan People's Party
10[1] Wasim Sajjad December 2, 1997 January 1, 1998 Pakistan Muslim League (N)
11 Muhammad Rafiq Tarar January 1, 1998 June 20, 2001 Pakistan Muslim League (N)
12 Pervez Musharraf June 20, 2001 In Office Military
I can't find any women that ruled Pakistan.
Help me out who was she?
Benazir Bhutto was PM in the 90's.
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Canada is the largest exporter of oil to the US.
Northern Alberta Oil sands is the 2nd biggest reserve in the world.
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Canada is the largest exporter of oil to the US.
Northern Alberta Oil sands is the 2nd biggest reserve in the world.
Be careful saying stuff like that..... Toxic might just have a meltdown on you. ;D
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translation:
"I called BS, Goatboy responded by citing sources, I think I'll just melt down now." :-\
i'm drunk..no such thing as a melting when i'm drunk...
:)
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translation:
"I called BS, Goatboy responded by citing sources, I think I'll just melt down now." :-\
no goat..you OWN a house in G-town..i expect you to be more global..u r an earthling before u r an amreekan.. ;)
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Canada is the largest exporter of oil to the US.
Northern Alberta Oil sands is the 2nd biggest reserve in the world.
need i say..canadia does not count..its US owned..
;D
..no seriously...
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That all right toxic.
The middle east is Iranian owned. :o
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does one of these videos attempt to explain the rational behind islams brutal treaement of women, criminals, outsiders?
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does one of these videos attempt to explain the rational behind islams brutal treaement of women, criminals, outsiders?
Are they all treated like that? Treatment like that is only practiced in parts of the middle east Pakistan. ::)
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Are they all treated like that? Treatment like that is only practiced in parts of the middle east Pakistan. ::)
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1019/p04s01-woeu.html
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1019/p04s01-woeu.html
They're obviously idiots. My cousin married a white dude and she wasn't murdered.
The point is that those are isolated incidents and not everyone is like that.
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They're obviously idiots. My cousin married a white dude and she wasn't murdered.
The point is that those are isolated incidents and not everyone is like that.
They only "isolacation" here is that they can be isolated to the muslim community. (Yeah yeah there are exceptions to the rule).
Race isn't my issue CJ, a persons race is out of their control. Was the white man a muslim?
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They only "isolacation" here is that they can be isolated to the muslim community. (Yeah yeah there are exceptions to the rule).
Race isn't my issue CJ, a persons race is out of their control. Was the white man a muslim?
Catholic.
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Catholic.
Hmm, I think you're lying to shut me up... :-X
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Not all Muslims are terrorists....but all terrorists are Muslims!
You mean guys like McVeigh and Kaczynski were Muslim?
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Hmm, I think you're lying to shut me up... :-X
No, really the dude comes from a Catholic family. My brother hit him up for a cigarette outside of the banquet hall where the marriage took place and he told me that the dude told him that he loved my cousin but he didn't want much to do with the religious aspects of the culture.
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does one of these videos attempt to explain the rational behind islams brutal treaement of women, criminals, outsiders?
dont make me type....watch the friggin vid >:(
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I think people who are not Islamic fear it because they fear the unknown. Its human nature to fear what you don't understand.
Exactly.
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You mean guys like McVeigh and Kaczynski were Muslim?
STFU libby.
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STFU libby.
That's L-I-B-E-R-T-A-R-I-A-N, chicka.
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wait... did I-one really say that all terrorists are muslims? ;D
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wait... did I-one really say that all terrorists are muslims? ;D
Yes. Which is why I listed McVeigh and Kaczynski.
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Yes. Which is why I listed McVeigh and Kaczynski.
I could add the RAF that operated in West Germany to that list.
Rote Arme Fraktion, I'm pretty sure they weren't Muslims. ::)
Or the French terrorists Action Directe.
or ETA (Spain), IRA (Northern Ireland), Aum shinrikyo (Japan), OAS (France), NAR (Italy).
Neither one of these terrorist organisations are/were Muslim. They are/were terrorists, but they're not Muslims.
YIP
Zack
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What about international terrorism, what proportion is commited by muslims?
Wait... did I hear almost 100%?
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Yes. Which is why I listed McVeigh and Kaczynski.
yes, I was being sarcastic when I called u a libby..come on bro I thought we were on good terms(that I wouldn't call u anmes out of the blue)? The "STFU Libby" line is being thrown around quite a bit now ;D
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yes, I was being sarcastic when I called u a libby..come on bro I thought we were on good terms(that I wouldn't call u anmes out of the blue)? The "STFU Libby" line is being thrown around quite a bit now ;D
My bad.... we're on good terms, Haider.
Sorry for chicka remark.