Who is afraid of Islam?

[ToxicAvenger]

dude, if I had to post from a desktop, i would never post . . . right now I'm sitting in a recliner watching curb your enthusiasm . . . couldn't do that if I had to use a desktop.

i dunno how 2 type..soo its hard on a laptop 4 me

[JasonH]

What about the IRA in Northern Ireland, or ETA in Spain. I could go on...

[the shadow]

according to me the islamic laws are very strict...even if you commit a small robbery also the punishment is very severe..for eg in once read in a news paper that guy was caught stealing some money in saudi arabia and the reslut was his hands were chopped off...if any one commits  rape or a murder,it results in death sentence..most of the death sentences are carried publically that is the accused are killed in public..so wat scare me are the islamic laws.there is video wich shows a guys penis being cut off because he committed rape.also there is a law in saudi arabia wich is that if a person commits any crime on friday,the punishment the punishment is that the accused would be buried till his neck and the public are requested to throw stones at him..they keep on throwing stones at his head and they throw stone to the very end of his death..these muslim laws are dangerous and bloody strict

[SinCitysmallGUY]

You say I am full of hate ?

This is your response to seeing a photo of an Innocent young girl that was beheaded on her way to school, only because of her religion.
  It is people of your religion that did this,  yet I am full of hate because I post a photo ?
You are delusional 

Facts :
It is people of your faith (Muslims) that are going around killing Innocent woman and children

it is your homeland that it is dangerous to be of another religion (besides Muslim)

In America, Do you see Muslim school children being beheaded by Christian's while walking to school ?  No !

Here in America, we welcome people of all backgrounds and all religions, can you say the same for many of the Muslim Countries ?

I think the one's who are full of hate, are many Muslims, 

i wanst going to get involved until i saw this post. what the F*CK are you talking about buddy. no cristian kids dont behead people but i think i would rather be dead then to be hated upon everyday because of my skin color, my religion, or the way i look. I dont care where you are from everyone hates it is human nature. Christians who go to church every week are still judgemental and full of hate the differance weve been taught to verbally abuse instead of kill. how many times have the words black, honkey, cracker, raghead, or spic, wetback, (the list goes on) come out of your mouth loud enough or not for someone else to hear. how many times do people of color get followed thru a store because there black and they might steal something. or just what yall are doing, hating on a whole religion because of the actions of few. how many muslims are there in the world and how many of them are killing you cannot judge a group by the actions of a few hundred or maybe thousands of individuals actions.... because if thats the case every german is a f*cking nazi... and every white man in america is a f*cking land thief and murderer. we can also say that every whiteman is a f*cking slave trader rapist and murderer. so cmon dont be so closed minded people are people we all have struggles, hardships and other problems but most of all we have life and either way we all bleed the same blood.

[Nordic Superman]

Firstly... break up your sentances, they are hard to read.

Secondly... you really don't know the scale of things if you think there are only 100s or 1000s of muslim extremists.

I would say, 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies will publically broadcast their opinions. That is 100,000,000 people.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

Firstly... break up your sentances, they are hard to read.

Secondly... you really don't know the scale of things if you think there are only 100s or 1000s of muslim extremists.

I would say, 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies will publically broadcast their opinions. That is 100,000,000 people.

all im saying superman, is that 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies. Well if that is the case there are 90% who dont that to me is a lot of good people being judged unfairly. How many muslims everyday get killed by there own people, and same with americans... and there are 2 kinds of muslims the extermists who are taught that way in there religion, and then the muslims who believe that murder is a sin and so forth..

[Nordic Superman]

all im saying superman, is that 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies. Well if that is the case there are 90% who dont that to me is a lot of good people being judged unfairly. How many muslims everyday get killed by there own people, and same with americans... and there are 2 kinds of muslims the extermists who are taught that way in there religion, and then the muslims who believe that murder is a sin and so forth..

Righty... you think it's that simple? You think you can possibly compare the middle east with western europe?

There are so many variables you can't just make "matter of fact" comments on the topic.

I get the impression you're just believing whatever option provides you the easiest path through life. You a prime target for conversion.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

Righty... you think it's that simple? You think you can possibly compare the middle east with western europe?

There are so many variables you can't just make "matter of fact" comments on the topic.

I get the impression you're just believing whatever option provides you the easiest path through life. You a prime target for conversion.

No way superman i must object to your comment on me believing whatever option provides me the easiet path. I would like to believe that I am of but a few that take the path less traveled.. such as yourself or so i would presume that you also think this way.. Am i correct?

[ToxicAvenger]

according to me the islamic laws are very strict...even if you commit a small robbery also the punishment is very severe..for eg in once read in a news paper that guy was caught stealing some money in saudi arabia and the reslut was his hands were chopped off...if any one commits  rape or a murder,it results in death sentence..most of the death sentences are carried publically that is the accused are killed in public..so wat scare me are the islamic laws.there is video wich shows a guys penis being cut off because he committed rape.also there is a law in saudi arabia wich is that if a person commits any crime on friday,the punishment the punishment is that the accused would be buried till his neck and the public are requested to throw stones at him..they keep on throwing stones at his head and they throw stone to the very end of his death..these muslim laws are dangerous and bloody strict

crime rate in saudi is VERY low..

and rapists and murders SHOULD have their fucking heads taken off in public...

[Camel Jockey]

Firstly... break up your sentances, they are hard to read.

Secondly... you really don't know the scale of things if you think there are only 100s or 1000s of muslim extremists.

I would say, 10% of muslims have extremist tendancies will publically broadcast their opinions. That is 100,000,000 people.

10 % is bogus.

That may be the case with the middle east and pakistan, I boubt a country like Bangladesh or Kazakhstan has that kinda number.

[Nordic Superman]

10 % is bogus.

That may be the case with the middle east and pakistan, I boubt a country like Bangladesh or Kazakhstan has that kinda number.

That 10% refers to the muzzies I have met in US and Britain. I bet it is much higher in countries such as Paki/Mid East.

Bottom line: there are atleast tens of millions of "muslim extremists" (or for a better word: direct followers of islam), not this 100's or 1000's that was spoken of earlier in this thread

[Camel Jockey]

That 10% refers to the muzzies I have met in US and Britain. I bet it is much higher in countries such as Paki/Mid East.

Bottom line: there are atleast tens of millions of "muslim extremists" (or for a better word: direct followers of islam), not this 100's or 1000's that was spoken of earlier in this thread

Who have you met in the US?

I have never met anyone with extremist views in New York, and NY is packed full of muslims. I'm sure there are some, but I've never come across one. However, they are too pussy to speak out against Islam, but that's not the criteria for being a terrorist.

[Camel Jockey]

BTW I like this new term "muzzy"

After I saw Bend it like Beckham, I started using "Paki" to piss off Pakistanis and Indians, that shit threw some Indian kids into rage when I dissed them at a pickup football game.
I wonder if muzzy will be as effective?

[Nordic Superman]

Who have you met in the US?

I have never met anyone with extremist views in New York, and NY is packed full of muslims. I'm sure there are some, but I've never come across one. However, they are too pussy to speak out against Islam, but that's not the criteria for being a terrorist.

There was a mosque near a gym I goto in Irvine, CA, that's where.

[Camel Jockey]

There was a mosque near a gym I goto in Irvine, CA, that's where.

So you went into the mosque or snooped around to get to know the people or to get an idea on their views? 

[Nordic Superman]

So you went into the mosque or snooped around to get to know the people or to get an idea on their views? 

Work it out... To justify the mosques existence there must of been a community of muzzies there, low and behold some of these muslims went to the gym! My accent attracts attention, making it easier to socialise with strangers.

[a_joker10]

There are a few problems I have with Islam.
1. The honour crap. Honour Rapes and Killing.
Killing your sister if she had sex out of wedlock. Raping women who cheat on their husbands.
2. Female circumcision and genital mutilation.
3. Apostasy
4. Jihad
5. Inequality of Women and other minority religious groups.
Women have farless rights in most of the Muslim world and in the strict states like Northern Pakistan, women are forbidden to go to school, Burka's. Need to be accompanied by a male family member.

I think most religions have very similar goals, however I think that Islam is being sideswiped by some extremely hardline and Conservative groups.
Until the moderates start dealing with these hard line elements, the gap between western thought and Conservative Islam will only grow.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

There are a few problems I have with Islam.
1. The honour crap. Honour Rapes and Killing.
Killing your sister if she had sex out of wedlock. Raping women who cheat on their husbands.
2. Female circumcision and genital mutilation.
3. Apostasy
4. Jihad
5. Inequality of Women and other minority religious groups.
Women have farless rights in most of the Muslim world and in the strict states like Northern Pakistan, women are forbidden to go to school, Burka's. Need to be accompanied by a male family member.

I think most religions have very similar goals, however I think that Islam is being sideswiped by some extremely hardline and Conservative groups.
Until the moderates start dealing with these hard line elements, the gap between western thought and Conservative Islam will only grow.

#5 on your list used to regard women in this country, women couldnt vote, never were allowed to go past a certain grade and so forth. So all of the rights women do not have in that country our women in the U.S. didnt have for quite a while.. maybe that could be a reason our troops are there. To help liberate a country that doesn't know the blessings and luck that we have to be free.

[a_joker10]

Before 9-11 I would tell the women I new to start funding womens liberation groups in these areas.

Iraq is a huge disappointment for me. I thought that when Saddam was removed the Iraq would join together and push itself towards democracy.
Instead it has become very fractured, with each of the three main groups fight amongst themselves for control.

What is really sad is that these groups aren't even targeting Americans anymore. They are much more interested in killing each other.
Hopefully the bloom of democracy can flower, like in Turkey, before it is plucked by insurgents.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

Before 9-11 I would tell the women I new to start funding womens liberation groups in these areas.

Iraq is a huge disappointment for me. I thought that when Saddam was removed the Iraq would join together and push itself towards democracy.
Instead it has become very fractured, with each of the three main groups fight amongst themselves for control.

What is really sad is that these groups aren't even targeting Americans anymore. They are much more interested in killing each other.
Hopefully the bloom of democracy can flower, like in Turkey, before it is plucked by insurgents.

That is a very good point (kudos) but the only thing is everyone shouldve expected there to be a fight for power imagine what it would be like if our countries leaders were overthrown (it would never happen) how many people would be vieng for power and to become leader. it's understandable it is and was there country.

[a_joker10]

how many people would be vieng for power and to become leader. it's understandable it is and was there country.

So true.

I still have hope that it will emerge as one of the strongest and most tolerant nations in the middle east.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

So true.

I still have hope that it will emerge as one of the strongest and most tolerant nations in the middle east.

I believe that it might have a damn strong chance, because not only all the strugle that they've had. But because of the freedom that they will experience and the joy that they will fell. the same joy that we take for granted everyday..

[G o a t b o y]

I love how people always bring up McVeigh. 

That's just about the ONLY American example there is, against the tens of thousands of examples of Muslim terrorist strikes.

Here's the other difference.... McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, and as soon as their fellow white Christians found out what they had done, they didn't give them a medal and send them financial support as supposedly "non-terrorist" Muslims would have done.... no, they hunted them down and put them in jail. That's the biggest difference...  our "mainstream" folks vilify our terrorists, the Muslims glorify theirs. 

[Nordic Superman]

I love how people always bring up McVeigh. 

That's just about the ONLY American example there is, against the tens of thousands of examples of Muslim terrorist strikes.

Here's the other difference.... McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, and as soon as their fellow white Christians found out what they had done, they didn't give them a medal and send them financial support as supposedly "non-terrorist" Muslims would have done.... no, they hunted them down and put them in jail. That's the biggest difference...  our "mainstream" folks vilify our terrorists, the Muslims glorify theirs. 

Exactly. I've already said:

Liberal apologists will always shout about the exception to the rule.

[a_joker10]

What about Ted Kazinski?

There are links between Waco, Oklahoma City and Columbine.
April 19. Although Columbine did happen on he 20th of April. Most believe the 19th was the original date.
These people find glory in their own groups as well.

Extremists in any form suck.