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Title: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: davidpaul on August 16, 2006, 09:13:59 AM
With all the shit Gaspari was on, would have thought he'd be able to handle something a little heavier than what appears to be 90 pound dumbells.

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Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 09:23:11 AM
I agree. He always boasts about how strong he is and how intense his workouts are but getting help from a spotter and resting after sets to pose in the mirror isn't exactly what I'd call high intensity.
He's an arsehole.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: legbreaker on August 16, 2006, 09:27:53 AM
With all the shit Gaspari was on, would have thought he'd be able to handle something a little heavier than what appears to be 90 pound dumbells.

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What if this sets was done after other exercises?  It could be the last exercise of his training.  When Rich wanted to lift heavier weights he definitly could shoulder press more.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 16, 2006, 09:30:18 AM
He's doing drop sets starting with 90's...that's strong!
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 09:34:12 AM
I have to disagree with you there. Drop sets are easy especially when you have help and he really didn't do all that many.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: nycbull on August 16, 2006, 09:36:09 AM
Whats up with fans that look to see how much dumbells or barbells are in a pic while having no idea what set the bodybuilder is on? So now bodybuilders gotta worry everytime they pick up a light barbell. Its not like their job isn't thankless enough being part of the IFBB and being broke.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: dan18 on August 16, 2006, 09:43:29 AM
I have to disagree with you there. Drop sets are easy especially when you have help and he really didn't do all that many.
shut the fuck up,and stop being stupid the man was strong as hell,
when you reach the size and power and status he had then open your mouth.












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Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 09:44:18 AM
Yes but Gaspari would have you believe that he worked his shoulders non stop for one hour with one thousand reps and 300 pounds without resting. That video is proof that there is nothing special about him at all.
He's just an arsehole who likes looking at himself in the mirror.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: dan18 on August 16, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
Whats up with fans that look to see how much dumbells or barbells are in a pic while having no idea what set the bodybuilder is on? So now bodybuilders gotta worry everytime they pick up a light barbell. Its not like their job isn't thankless enough being part of the IFBB and being broke.
well said ..
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: natural al on August 16, 2006, 09:49:07 AM
Yes but Gaspari would have you believe that he worked his shoulders non stop for one hour with one thousand reps and 300 pounds without resting. That video is proof that there is nothing special about him at all.
He's just an arsehole who likes looking at himself in the mirror.

I can't watch youtube at work so I don't know what this is all about.  YOu seem to have a major league hard on for Richie.....what's that all about?  I'm assuming this is precontest and really isn't an indicator of what he did in the offseason....I remember reading he burst a blood vessel in his eye training...that's pretty intense.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Unchained81 on August 16, 2006, 09:51:59 AM
Whats up with fans that look to see how much dumbells or barbells are in a pic while having no idea what set the bodybuilder is on? So now bodybuilders gotta worry everytime they pick up a light barbell. Its not like their job isn't thankless enough being part of the IFBB and being broke.

Someone told me one time they saw Gasapari carrying his groceries into his house, and he was only carrying two sacks at a time!  He made five trips.  He was an IFBB pro, he shold been able to carry all ten at once, with all the gear he was on!  He is not as hardcore as he said.  LOL.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: dan18 on August 16, 2006, 09:53:29 AM
Yes but Gaspari would have you believe that he worked his shoulders non stop for one hour with one thousand reps and 300 pounds without resting. That video is proof that there is nothing special about him at all.
He's just an arsehole who likes looking at himself in the mirror.
whats wrong with looking in the mirror..












when your jacked
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: dan18 on August 16, 2006, 09:55:41 AM
Someone told me one time they saw Gasapari carrying his groceries into his house, and he was only carrying two sacks at a time!  He made five trips.  He was an IFBB pro, he shold been able to carry all ten at once, with all the gear he was on!  He is not as hardcore as he said.  LOL.
I  would have had your bitch ass bring in my groceries...












or i would have carried the car to the door and dump the bags out ;D
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Playboy on August 16, 2006, 09:59:29 AM
well said ..
Agreed. Its about working smarter not harder.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 10:02:17 AM

or i would have carried the car to the door and dump the bags out ;D

The type of answer Gaspari would give. Total fecking shite.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: nycbull on August 16, 2006, 10:03:16 AM
Someone told me one time they saw Gasapari carrying his groceries into his house, and he was only carrying two sacks at a time!  He made five trips.  He was an IFBB pro, he shold been able to carry all ten at once, with all the gear he was on!  He is not as hardcore as he said.  LOL.

monster stupid post.

Can you believe there are actual people watching and judging this guy bringing in his groceries? Unbelievable. How many peices of dog shit does he pick up at a time? Does he mow one blade or two blades of grass at a time?
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 16, 2006, 10:04:49 AM
I watched it and I have to say Gaspari looks like a weak little bitch there. He's leaned all the way back and starts struggling on the third rep. I don't care what he did beforehand that's pretty weak for a supposed "animal in the gym". Gaspari is obviously not that strong but who cares,this isn't powerlifting.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Max_Rep on August 16, 2006, 10:18:12 AM
He's doing drop sets starting with 90's...that's strong!

And probably resting a minute in between the next series, not 3 or 4 minutes like these guys today.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 11:43:18 AM
And probably resting a minute in between the next series, not 3 or 4 minutes like these guys today.

With drop sets you are not supposed to rest at all though.
And as previous posts have said, it's not a lot of weight he is pushing when you consider the amount of juice he is on and also his own claim of being an animal in the gym. It really isn't impressive at all.
I'm amazed that there are people who suck up to these guys and believe the crap they come out with.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 11:53:23 AM
If it was intense then he'd be lying on the floor puking and not admiring himself in the mirror.
That is one of the easiest workouts I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Unchained81 on August 16, 2006, 12:08:18 PM
monster stupid post.

Can you believe there are actual people watching and judging this guy bringing in his groceries? Unbelievable. How many peices of dog shit does he pick up at a time? Does he mow one blade or two blades of grass at a time?

I guess you guys can't see the sacarsm here.  I obviously made that up to make a joke on how dumb it is that people expect pros to be lifting inhuman weights every time they are photographed.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Unchained81 on August 16, 2006, 12:09:35 PM
I  would have had your bitch ass bring in my groceries...












or i would have carried the car to the door and dump the bags out ;D

uh, man I was joking.  LOL.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: natural al on August 16, 2006, 12:13:08 PM
I've seen pretty well all the pros train on video or DVD and Gaspari was as intense as any of them.  Maybe not as hardcore as he claimed to be, but he was intense and the footage above was pretty intense.  As for strength, maybe delt strength wasn't his thing.  I think he boasted about having strong quads, I don't remember him ever saying his delts were so strong.  Also, regarding the stuff Rich was on, I heard he was on test year round?  How about GH and insulin?  Was that even big in the eighties?

I "think" people used growth hormone back then but I don't "think" it was perfected until the mid 90's.  I remember watching a show and tehy said Alzado was on GH but it was not synthetic like it is today and it was from human cadavers.  I remember reading that you had to spike GH with insulin for it to be effective somewhere in the late 80's probably around 88 or 89.

If he was on GH he didn't show any of the signs we see today...gut distention, skull growth etc.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: thor_odin on August 16, 2006, 12:23:24 PM
I went to a Tom Platz seminar around 1988 and he said that all the pros were on Growth Hormone including himself. I recall he said that he felt his nose was growing.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Birdman on August 16, 2006, 12:51:27 PM
Killer tube sox
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: IceCold on August 16, 2006, 01:03:57 PM
for all the stories about rich's strenght, he just proved all of them wrong with that clip.

most intense trainer?  i hope not from that clip.  he did 2 drop sets.  wow.


with the side angel of the camera, you see how small rich really is. 
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: nycbull on August 16, 2006, 01:07:08 PM
Monster inability to recognize awesome sarcasm when he sees it.

sorry dude.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: davidpaul on August 16, 2006, 01:56:42 PM
Not to change the subject, but this reminds me of that earlier thread about puking and injuries. People saying that if you didn't puke ever, you weren't working out with enough intensity, etc...

Thinking about it, imo, you only puke if you seriously ramp up the intensity on a single workout event. So if you normally do 6 sets 20x18x16x14x12x10 starting at 100lbs and going up to 200lbs (arbitrary #'s for arbitrary exercise), and one day decide to do 12 sets starting at 100lbs and going to 250lbs...you'll puke.

You puke because you got to the point where you are actually working intensely. Prior to that event, you haven't been pushing yourself enough -- this is evident in the fact that you were able to do the extra work this time, but have not until this event.

Basically, I'm saying all you jerko's who say you have to puke to prove you're working out intensely are numbnuts who never worked out intensely to begin with.  ::)

If your not an unfit fatfuck you won't puke.
Only people I see feel sick/be sick are fat/unhealthy or jsut ate a very big meal before gym.

As to Gaspari, those are pussy weights he is lifting for shoudlers, no doubt he was using growth, look atr his midsection in the l8 80's, was blocky as hell.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: YoungBlood on August 16, 2006, 02:07:53 PM
His first set starts with the 100's. Look at when the camera is at his side, there are three digit's to the number. He does his first 5-6 reps, then drops them and picks up what appear to be 90's and then drops down another time.
This may not have been his first drop set, nor his first exercise.
I would expect him to get more reps out of each drop, but with that little clip you can't tell too much.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: davidpaul on August 16, 2006, 02:41:48 PM
If you wait a sufficient amount of time between your last meal and your workout you also won't be able to puke.  Is timing your meals and workouts with some degree of intelligence really so difficult?  Anyone who seems to believe that puking is necessary is just a meathead through and through.  As for injuries - it should be obvious when you're pushing things too far, and you should never need to get injured - not EVER.  Not even to become a pro or develop a world class physique.  It is simply unnecessary no matter how you cut it.

Not to derail the thread, but like Adam said, even the nutritional guidelines we read about (eat six meals a day, X amount of protein, etc) are overplayed as well.  I spoke with a juicer today who went up to a cut weight of 235 at 5'10 and had a horrible diet.  People like me on the other hand, do need to eat multiple meals throughout the day to gain size.  Another thing we can't forget is how individualized bodybuilding is - whatever Gaspari did obviously worked for him, and I still maintain he was an intense trainer, although maybe not to the degree he said he was.

good post.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Joey Tito on August 17, 2006, 10:30:25 AM
shut the f**k up,and stop being stupid the man was strong as hell,
when you reach the size and power and status he had then open your mouth.

Major, MAJOR meltdown










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Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: sarcasm on August 17, 2006, 12:08:03 PM
And probably resting a minute in between the next series, not 3 or 4 minutes like these guys today.
anyone can rest a minute between sets when you're pressing db's well under a hundred pounds.
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: gracie bjj on August 17, 2006, 04:01:36 PM
i saw richie doin 300lb behind the neck presses fairly easy back in 82
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 17, 2006, 04:06:15 PM
If it was intense then he'd be lying on the floor puking and not admiring himself in the mirror.
That is one of the easiest workouts I've ever seen.

 ::)
Title: Re: Heavy shouder pressing
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on August 17, 2006, 09:08:14 PM
Regarding puking, it's my understanding that conditions such as low blood sugar and dehydration can lead to nausea and vomiting. I've had many leg workouts (and a few back workouts) over the years that made me feel nauseous, and I actually did puke after a few workouts here and there (a long time ago), regardless of how long after a meal I waited to go to the gym or how light I ate or whatever.

I noticed this was more common years ago when I did quads, hams, and calves all together (doing an awful lot of intense work in 60-90 minutes) and did not have a particularly good degree of cardiovascular conditioning. I think I was doing too much volume of work (at a very high level of "intensity" or effort) in one session.

In recent years, I've been more focused on overall health and have greatly improved my cardiovascular conditioning. I've also been doing hams and calves in one workout by themselves, followed by quads by themselves several days later. I feel that I need to do a fair amount of volume for each of the three muscle groups, and I simply cannot work all three together sufficiently (in terms of volume and intensity) - so I split leg work into two workouts. Since making these changes, I don't usually feel like I'm gonna puke anymore after even the most demanding workout (quads) of the week. I'm also much bigger and stronger as well.