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- this first 3 pictures is to demonstrate REAL 100% NATURAL BODY-BUILDING that belong before 1930. all 3 pictures 100% natural.
- the second set of pictures (gh15 post2) demonstrate REAL 100% NATURAL BODYBUILDERS THAT DO BELONG IN THE BEGGINING STAGES OF MODERN BODYBUILDING ERA (past 1930 through the 1940s and early 50s) beause they were indeed 100% natural all along their "career".
- the third set of pics (gh15post3) demonstrate body builders that belong in the modern bodybuilding era and been natural majority!! of the of their years in the gym. 1 pic is when natural 1 when experiemnting meaning on.
- the forth set of pictures (gh15post4) is our friend mr. reeves since someone couldnt shut up ;),,i catagorize these pictures as pictures when off and when on meaning some of the pics are when completely off and not experiemnting (natural) and few of them are when he is on experiemnting.
the differences to the ones who understand bodybuilding are very easy to notice. little puffy under left or right nipple when on,,,oily skin,,,fuller bigger muscles,,thicker skin,,jacked up look and agressivness "screaming" out.
enjoy
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3 grimek - natural MOST of his career
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our own stevie reeves,,i dont even need to tell you which pictures he is "happy happy" ;) still i CONSIDER him natural due to the fact he only EXPERIEMTNED like today guys try mgf and igf1lr3. this will be couple posts 2-3 pictures each for comparisson
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Sorry to detract from your topic gh15, but
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1 off time and 2 on time depends on the need and time ;)
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those are ALL on time experiemnting and more experienced with use during movie roles
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here you got oen left nipple bitch tit due to extra estrogen hidden by extra body fat. it is not adipus only it is a little puffiness due to hormonal use. this pic is WHEN HE IS OFF!!
you also have here steve reeves during teen age years before trying anything 100% natural.
and i also attached 2 pictures of famous juicers of 20-30 years later for your comparisson enjoyment. both are jacked ofcourse.
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WTF are you talking about??
puffiness under his nipples?
aggressive look?
You could also say on some pics he is not in contest shape (thicker skin, more fat, 'puffy nipples'), on some he is in contest shape.
His 'aggressiveness' comes from looking into the sun while being photographed.
your post is worthless, chasing ghosts. absolute bullshit.
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some more reeves "experiemnting",,,and ofcourse sunglasses for donky kong,, so we make sure he dont look to the sun and his bodyfat is low enough ;) it is specifically for donky kong so he dont complain bout the sun waves :D :D,,the bitch tit is there ya just need to know where to look and what to look for ;) (this pic pecs are covered but it is noticable to an exellent degree in that other pic i posted,,also he did not experiement with major solutions/heavy doses,,a tablet my friend,,,tablets can go long long way if you love your bodybuilding)
wize up my friend
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Yep, its pretty clear when Steeve was 'on'. But so what? The only people that care are ND and gh15.
ND, give it up. You've lost. You're boyhood hero/fantasy figure was on the gear. Get over it.
Gh15, even though you are correct in everything you say about Steeve, be prepared for a decade long battle with ND.
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na i just playing i like reeves too. i posted way too many pics,,,the only 2 pics you need to look at to know what is the secret behind advanced bodybuilding are these 2
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What is really the point of this.
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This thread is dumb. :-\
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GH you mentioned tablets, what kind of gear were readily available in that time period?
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- this first 3 pictures is to demonstrate REAL 100% NATURAL BODY-BUILDING that belong before 1930. all 3 pictures 100% natural.
- the second set of pictures (gh15 post2) demonstrate REAL 100% NATURAL BODYBUILDERS THAT DO BELONG IN THE BEGGINING STAGES OF MODERN BODYBUILDING ERA (past 1930 through the 1940s and early 50s) beause they were indeed 100% natural all along their "career".
- the third set of pics (gh15post3) demonstrate body builders that belong in the modern bodybuilding era and been natural majority!! of the of their years in the gym. 1 pic is when natural 1 when experiemnting meaning on.
- the forth set of pictures (gh15post4) is our friend mr. reeves since someone couldnt shut up ;),,i catagorize these pictures as pictures when off and when on meaning some of the pics are when completely off and not experiemnting (natural) and few of them are when he is on experiemnting.
the differences to the ones who understand bodybuilding are very easy to notice. little puffy under left or right nipple when on,,,oily skin,,,fuller bigger muscles,,thicker skin,,jacked up look and agressivness "screaming" out.
enjoy
You are what we refer to as a "moron".
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some more reeves "experiemnting",,,and ofcourse sunglasses for donky kong,, so we make sure he dont look to the sun and his bodyfat is low enough ;) it is specifically for donky kong so he dont complain bout the sun waves :D :D,,the bitch tit is there ya just need to know where to look and what to look for ;) (this pic pecs are covered but it is noticable to an exellent degree in that other pic i posted,,also he did not experiement with major solutions/heavy doses,,a tablet my friend,,,tablets can go long long way if you love your bodybuilding)
wize up my friend
Haha you are such a poser.
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Every time you post this garbage you just look dumber and dumber. Why are you hellbent on trying to say Reeves used? I thinks its just because no one believes you and its really getting to you. No one is taking you seriously so just cut your losses and go back under the rock you crawled out from.
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Every time you post this garbage you just look dumber and dumber. Why are you hellbent on trying to say Reeves used? I thinks its just because no one believes you and its really getting to you. No one is taking you seriously so just cut your losses and go back under the rock you crawled out from.
haha, i bet gh15 will be the next 'pro' to melt down seriously.
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Monster shoulder pads.
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Monster shoulder pads.
Nope, synthol. ;)
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Its safe to say GH15 never was even 185 lbs Natural.
Sad.
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Nope, synthol. ;)
shoulder padded suit
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I like GH15 but he is way off regarding REEVES. Looks totally Natural.
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GH14,
I normally agree with you, but I think you're off on this thread. The way you seem to tell it, a person of above average genetics (like Steve Reeves) couldn't achieve donkeydung without "experimenting"??
I live in New York and I think I speak for all New Yorkers when I say that we've all seen HOMELESS GUYS with better physiques than some of those posted.
With you giving so much credit to hormones, it really makes me understand why most Pros think it's useless to even bother lifting when OFF.
Special "Reality Checker" Ed
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GH14,
I normally agree with you, but I think you're off on this thread. The way you seem to tell it, a person of above average genetics (like Steve Reeves) couldn't achieve donkeydung without "experimenting"??
I live in New York and I think I speak for all New Yorkers when I say that we've all seen HOMELESS GUYS with better physiques than some of those posted.
With you giving so much credit to hormones, it really makes me understand why most Pros think it's useless to even bother lifting when OFF.
Special "Reality Checker" Ed
Careful, Ed, or Gh13 comes around the bend telling us he has proof these homeless guys are actually test objects of major underground roid labs. ;D ;D
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GH14,
I normally agree with you, but I think you're off on this thread. The way you seem to tell it, a person of above average genetics (like Steve Reeves) couldn't achieve donkeydung without "experimenting"??
I live in New York and I think I speak for all New Yorkers when I say that we've all seen HOMELESS GUYS with better physiques than some of those posted.
With you giving so much credit to hormones, it really makes me understand why most Pros think it's useless to even bother lifting when OFF.
Special "Reality Checker" Ed
They are strong as all hell too...One time a homeless dude from out back of Golds came in while they had some contest going on--bench and such--one of the stations was 225lbs flat bench and they count the # of reps----homeless guy BEAT all those bitch-ass kids by benching that shit I think about 22 times!!!!
I asked him if he worked out and he said he like the heat outside better and had a setup by the creek wiht shopping carts and cynder blocks!!!
I bet that fcker just ate snickers and potato chips!!!
I gave him $5 for showing those kids up and told him to go get a nice bottle of 'hootch'
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Funny, not 1 of you commented on how good looking (facial & body) Steve Reeves was. That man could have landed any wo/man yesterday and today and by all means would be the patron saint to all gay-4-pay sponsors.
Thank you Mr. Reeves,
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Funny, not 1 of you commented on how good looking (facial & body) Steve Reeves was. That man could have landed any wo/man yesterday and today and by all means would be the patron saint to all gay-4-pay sponsors.
Thank you Mr. Reeves,
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He was so hot! Thanks for posting those pics gh15!
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This Steve Reeves was such a tool, just look at that clown, he loos like a dork in every picture, "look at ME ma!".... :-\
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He is obviously 'on' in this pic. Unless his genetics were so awesome he looked better natrual than the likes of Park, Scot and a young dbol popping Arnold. He was a juicer. Accept it.
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How bad are someones genetics that they think Reeves was juiced?
Please.........
He had awesome bone structure, narrow waist, wide clavicles, full muscle bellies, and even
long calf insertions.
Genetically he was WAY ahead of his contemporaries.
With his shape and flow, the small amount (by todays standards) of muscle he had
looks like a lot more.
Besides, if you are rich, no one cares how you got your money.
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gh15 is a clown and his ' facts ' are full of holes
He finally broke down and revealed the source for all of his secret information , his source his a friend of the faimly of Dr John Ziegler lol this is how he is privey to such classified information thats never been seen anywhere else in the past 50+ years.
In his first post on the topic he claims Reeves could be considered ' natural ' because he just experimented with testosterone and his use was nothing to write home about , neither were the ammounts and duration . then a few posts later he claims Reeves used testosterone , pre-testosterone tablets , a few posts later he claims Reeves used insulin as well and then finally he used DNP as well . Now how can someone on a cocktail like this ever be considered natural? thats an oxymoron.
I claimed its NOT impossible for a bodybuilder with among the best genetics the sport has seen to build just 215lbs of muscle at 6'1" and his response was that NO bodybuilder reaches his full potential without the aids of drugs period, this directly contradicts his claim that Reeves took so little that he could be considered ' natural ' well which is it? either he built 215lbs ' naturally ' or they could ONLY be built with drugs period?
He claims Reeves was using next to nothing in durring his competitive years and he was more of a heavy user after he retired and was making movies , backwards logic to say the least , especially considering Reeves was 215lbs durring his competitive hey-day and when shooting movies the directors & producers insisted he lose weight because he would litteraly dwarf his co-stars , Reeves was down to 187lbs for most of his movies , so like his other claims this is a direct contradiction
He claims Dr John Ziegler was the one who handpicked Reeves to begining testing testosterone on , along with Joe Weider . he claimed Ziegler was a doctor in the 1930 and 40s and he had acsess to all sorts of drugs and Reeves took them throughout the 40s and 50s , he also claimed Ziegler worked for Ciba in the 1940s .
Ziegler was NOT a doctor in the 1930s he finished college in 1942 and then went off to the Marine Corp and served in World War II after being shot durring the war , he used weights to rehibilitate and came intrested in weightlifting and after the war he went to medical school and became a doctor like his previous generations which could be traced back to the American Civil War
He claims Ziegler worked with with Reeves all through the 1940s , this would mean he was working with Steve when he was 14 in 1940 , 15 in 1941 , 16 in 1942 etc . somehow he was ' working ' with a 14 year Reeves despite not being a medical doctor until years after the war
He claims Ziegler was using testoserone on Reeves in the 1940s . Yet Ziegler was clueless about testosterone use in atheletes durring the 1940s in fact Ziegler who is also called the " Father of Steroids " didn't learn about it until the 1954 World Championships in Vienna Austria , this is where all the Russian weighlifters were breaking world records left & right , intrigued Ziegler got the coach of the Russian drunk on Vodka and while drunk he confessed they were using testosterone
Upon learning this Ziegler returned to the United States and started to recearch testosterone with Ciba suppling what information they had from the Germans , who isolated testosterone in the 1930s and later synthesized it and supposedly were giving it to soliders durring the war ( but this has never been proven ) after the Russians took over they used the Nazi's information and started using testosterone on their athletes .
In 1954 Dr John Ziegler started testing testosterone on HIMSELF and a select few with NO RESULTS ! he kept working on it and finally in 1958 the first anabolic steroid was created methandrostenolone better known as Dianabol . the first weightlifter/bodybuilder he worked with was Bill March , this is well documented and what ironic is at first neither knew how effective they were until much trial and error
March did see gains in strenght and some noticable size however he & Ziegler didn't know it was directly because of the d-bol , March attributed his found strenght to hypnosis and isometrics , after many months it became evident that it was the pills responsible for his strenght and probably the injuries he started getting, March felt euphoric when on and a tad down when off , after a while it was clear just how effective dianabol was and the rest they say is history.
Now a lot of his information is outright lies and contradictory from one post to the next , he made a bold claim and didn't back it up with any evidence , his source for information is ' a friend of the faimly ' ::) he didn't research is own bullshit claims to at least appear to know what he's talking about , couple this with the fact that Steve Reeves flat out denies ever using steroids or even hearing about the until the mid-1960s and condemned thier use in bodybuilding ist easy it see gh15 is a jackass liar
Now people say why am I so passionate about this topic , I'm NOT knew to bodybuilding and aren't so naive to think everyone is natural , I've read countless books on bodybuilding from Bill Pearl , Steve Reeves up to Dorian Yates and everyone inbetween , I know that in order to build a winning physique it takes hard work , diet and drugs
However there was a time in bodybuilding when it was a health orientated endevor and steroids didn't make their way into bodybuilding and this was Steve Reeves age , if you read anything about the man you'll soon understand he was a man of intelligence , honesty and integrity and he also sereved in the armed services durring World War II , he is a bodybuilding legend so to come on here an matter-of-factly called the man a liar and a multi-drug user is a disservice to a great man and a great bodybuilder
Quick recap - The use of testosterone in the United States didn't start until 1954 and the use of anabolic steroids didn't start until 1958 , thats a full four years after Reeves retired and eight respectivly
The first weightlifter/bodybuilder to starting using under supervison of Zeigler is Bill March .
Now who are we going to believe gh15 or Steve Reeves? lol
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and yet again this thread is here to stay and no "so called" expert or blue 5 star or any one that really knows his sport interfed with it.
from the quick scroll up and down along this thread i see few people who never touched sports drugs nor ever will saying bunch of balonnie about an the obvious (steve reeves as you can seenow did experiment)
pay attention to the fact NO ONE that has a clue about bodybuilding says differently. this thread is good i like it,,it shows that majority of serious bodybuilders are not that dumb and deserve their blue titles.
all i see is a long long ass post of someone who someone that i bet $ doesnt go in the gym often (the kid) writing long long storys that i cant read because i get add while trying to. its too much to read my friend,,,if you didnt think it was true and you cant give 100% proof just say something like "oh it is nonesense" the fact you feel obligated to answer show you are more of a fan/admierer rather than a real bodybuilder who knows his sport.
"I've read countless books on bodybuilding from Bill Pearl , Steve Reeves up to Dorian Yates and everyone inbetween , I know that in order to build a winning physique it takes hard work , diet and drugs "
this is you problem. you READ about them while I am "THEM". you read about bodybuilding while i AM bodybuilding. you read about the intake of dnp,,,while i actually used it,,,you get the picture ;)
"face the truth and go on or quite the game and stay average" gh15 2006
i know it is hard to accept but it never meant to be accepted by every kid on the net,,only to be DEMONSTRATED to them for the eye to see thus giving the best hands on proof ;)
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and yet again this thread is here to stay and no "so called" expert or blue 5 star or any one that really knows his sport interfed with it.
from the quick scroll up and down along this thread i see few people who never touched sports drugs nor ever will saying bunch of balonnie about an the obvious (steve reeves as you can seenow did experiment)
pay attention to the fact NO ONE that has a clue about bodybuilding says differently. this thread is good i like it,,it shows that majority of serious bodybuilders are not that dumb and deserve their blue titles.
all i see is a long long ass post of someone who someone that i bet $ doesnt go in the gym often (the kid) writing long long storys that i cant read because i get add while trying to. its too much to read my friend,,,if you didnt think it was true and you cant give 100% proof just say something like "oh it is nonesense" the fact you feel obligated to answer show you are more of a fan/admierer rather than a real bodybuilder who knows his sport.
"I've read countless books on bodybuilding from Bill Pearl , Steve Reeves up to Dorian Yates and everyone inbetween , I know that in order to build a winning physique it takes hard work , diet and drugs "
this is you problem. you READ about them while I am "THEM". you read about bodybuilding while i AM bodybuilding. you read about the intake of dnp,,,while i actually used it,,,you get the picture ;)
"face the truth and go on or quite the game and stay average" gh15 2006
i know it is hard to accept but it never meant to be accepted by every kid on the net,,only to be DEMONSTRATED to them for the eye to see thus giving the best hands on proof ;)
I friend of the faimly of Dr John Ziegler told me you are full of shit lol
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i cant believe im sitting here right now arguing with a kid.
1) what is lol??
2) i will continue this to any level the moment you back up your claims with a blue star individual as in someone who has something to lose from arguing with me for your so called "truth". you wont find this someone unless you got very very good friends because any blue star individual on this board KNOWS HIS SPORT.
you notice i dont even read your long blubbing no more because it is a.d.d in its glory,,it is too much blubbing on too little of a place with out pointing to the eye evidence (pictures!) seen on this thread with specific explanations concerning the era. see thread 1.
if you cant see that steve reeves was the beggining of test and the beggining of the word "jacked up" and "swollen" then you have no clue what so ever about bodybuilding.
i suggest you go and talk privately with good top amatuer or proffessional level bodybuilders (eye to eye) first create a friendship with them,,,then you might be lucky to hear the truth about modern bodybuilding.
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He is obviously 'on' in this pic. Unless his genetics were so awesome he looked better natrual than the likes of Park, Scot and a young dbol popping Arnold. He was a juicer. Accept it.
Steve Reeves was truly one in a kind. :o
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No bitch tits there...but I guess he had that Long Island doctor remove the gyno...and he was taking propecia to keep from losing that awesome hair...and using those tanning salons to perfect that deep dark tan...and using the Hammer Strength lat machines to bring out those sweeping lats.
I can't believe Steve Reeves nearly won the 2000 Mr. Olympia!
Special "C-Section" Ed
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gh15 is a clown and his ' facts ' are full of holes
Great post. Guys like Grimek, Reeves, and Park were 100% natural. Ask anyone who was actually alive during that time period. My dad trained in one of the top powerlifting gyms in the US for 30 years, and never heard of anyone using steroids until around 1963. Bodybuilding was all about hard work and natural genetic ability back then.
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haha gh15 just got schooled by NarcissisticDeity.... Hey gh how much test was Sandow taking?
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No bitch tits there...but I guess he had that Long Island doctor remove the gyno...and he was taking propecia to keep from losing that awesome hair...and using those tanning salons to perfect that deep dark tan...and using the Hammer Strength lat machines to bring out those sweeping lats.
I can't believe Steve Reeves nearly won the 2000 Mr. Olympia!
Special "C-Section" Ed
guys,,i got to go training so i will answer this quick. you GOTTA listen and look carefully to what i say! (remember the way i write is with out checkin for spelling or building perfectly structured sentences,,i talk straight out like i would talk to your face) you got to remember this fact.
now,,steve reeves did not use mega doses of anything it was not practical those days,,it was experiemtngin stage of hormones and few other type of drugs for bodybuilding purposes.
he tried testosterone in tablet form and testosterone propionate with propionate easter attached to it farther on past the years 48-49.
i NEVER mentioned the word GYNO (you got to carefully read what i say and understand english is not written by me like its my first language ;)) ,,i mentioned the word bitch tit as a slang word to sound funny and PUFFINESS under the nipple. puffiness under the nipple DOES NOT ALWAYS point to gyno that is already there,, it point to hormonal unbalance/abnormality. it subsides in most cases when off hormones or when body fat is lower. if NOT treated in time and/or if you increase your doses and/or if cycle contniues ONLY THEN gyno will become a matter of fact. there is another type of gyno that i dont have time to get into right now but mr reeves did not have it simply because the specific derivatives of testosterone for this specific type of gyno to develop were not there during the 40s (those derivatives involve solutions and were not available those days not even for research)
you must know your hormones better inorder to argue me. it is like lecturing to bunch of junior high short buss kids ;)
in addition i did not ever talk about his tann because tann can be obtained naturally with zero problems.
the experiements held with steve reeve in dr. zeigler clinic were of the following drugs: methyltestosterone in tablet form in its rough version of development twards the more femilar types of testosterone (aka easters attached in solution form),, DNP which was exellent fat burner of the day,,and ofcourse insulin in experiemntal stages. the drugs were given in minimum doses for they were the real deal not much drug needed when you have the real deal in your hand especially when you try to see how it can benefit your physiqe and aim for longetivity and health.
whole of those 3 drugs were experiemented on reeves during the 40s and not only on him,,few other athletes did the same exact experimenting but reeves stood out due to his better respond to treatment and his over all good look.
10 years later dr ziegler was officially bringing out via ciba ofcourse a DERIVATIVE of the drug testpsterone called DIANABOL for the whole usa to benefit and enjoy this great drug. ANY ONE who wanted could just go and get it from his doc and pharmacy.
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guess what gh15 back here on the east coast in the early 80s...It went around that Bob Paris was gay....You should heard half the assholes in the gym with his picture on their walls calling Bullshit...Alot of ignorant people in the world....
Some people still think Barry Bonds didn't touch gear until 99. After the sosa-McGuire year...While back in the early 90s guys like lenny Dystra and company was juiced to the gills...Truth is Barry started experimenting with GH/slin and larger doses of anabolics after the jealously set in...I've heard rumors of him doing small deca/winny cycles back Bobby Boniea played in a farm system here on the east coast....
Also back when Reggie Jackson was MCing for some superstars comps in the 70s, the football players on their were using alot of gear and guess whos name also went around for using some anabolics....Yup Mr. October himself....yet that guy is speaking out against Bonds today....Jealous f ckers
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seriously did anyone think Reeves was natural, the arguement is ridiculous and the photos more so, but yes Reeves was on, not jacked but no doubt on, his body has fullness only achieved with a higher than normal androgen level, consistent with a juicer. Sorry boys another one from the dark side.
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i cant believe im sitting here right now arguing with a kid.
1) what is lol??
2) i will continue this to any level the moment you back up your claims with a blue star individual as in someone who has something to lose from arguing with me for your so called "truth". you wont find this someone unless you got very very good friends because any blue star individual on this board KNOWS HIS SPORT.
you notice i dont even read your long blubbing no more because it is a.d.d in its glory,,it is too much blubbing on too little of a place with out pointing to the eye evidence (pictures!) seen on this thread with specific explanations concerning the era. see thread 1.
if you cant see that steve reeves was the beggining of test and the beggining of the word "jacked up" and "swollen" then you have no clue what so ever about bodybuilding.
i suggest you go and talk privately with good top amatuer or proffessional level bodybuilders (eye to eye) first create a friendship with them,,,then you might be lucky to hear the truth about modern bodybuilding.
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i cant believe im sitting here right now arguing with a kid.
1) what is lol??
2) i will continue this to any level the moment you back up your claims with a blue star individual as in someone who has something to lose from arguing with me for your so called "truth". you wont find this someone unless you got very very good friends because any blue star individual on this board KNOWS HIS SPORT.
you notice i dont even read your long blubbing no more because it is a.d.d in its glory,,it is too much blubbing on too little of a place with out pointing to the eye evidence (pictures!) seen on this thread with specific explanations concerning the era. see thread 1.
if you cant see that steve reeves was the beggining of test and the beggining of the word "jacked up" and "swollen" then you have no clue what so ever about bodybuilding.
i suggest you go and talk privately with good top amatuer or proffessional level bodybuilders (eye to eye) first create a friendship with them,,,then you might be lucky to hear the truth about modern bodybuilding.
i trained with a guy at my gym a while back ,big dude short 5'4 or so and 230 or so and never competed and was using it all 5 years straight after 10 years clean ,after a while he told me all his little aches and pains and such,great guy he just opened up after a while and he ran with the top stuff and got all his info from good local guy.
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seriously did anyone think Reeves was natural, the arguement is ridiculous and the photos more so, but yes Reeves was on, not jacked but no doubt on, his body has fullness only achieved with a higher than normal androgen level, consistent with a juicer. Sorry boys another one from the dark side.
yes just take a look at this chemically induced monster!!!! 6 foot one, 215 lbs of twisted steal. Completely unachievable!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Now take a look at a picture of Steve reeves at 15 years old. The basic shape is already there. Reeves physique only being achievable with chemicals lol. I played football my entire highschool life and one semester of my college carrer before I transfered to a school with no program. Some of the guys I played with had amazing genetics and where well over 215 at over six feet. I know for a fact they did not juice because some where my best friends.
Stop with the nonsense. Do I know for an absolute fact Reeves did not juice? Nope. But claiming his physique is unachievable for a person with his genetics naturally is plain stupid.
Most of the people claiming he juices are prob the same people who claim every person with a half decent physique is a juice monkey.
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Anyone who believes that Steve Reeves physique is attainable is a fool. Please show me your pictures of your Steve Reeves physique. Reeves was built as a teenager in the 30's. He was built in the 1940's, 50's,60's and 70's and beyond. Reeves was nick named the shape during his service in the military during world war II. Was he juicing then? All this talk of Reeves juicing is just a way to justify and rationalize your own drug use.
One thing I do see concerning modern day bodybuilding. The drug heads look great during their juicing period. Usually about 5 to 10 years of cycles. Then when they go off the juice they quickly look very ordinary, showing how much the drugs were responsible for their physique. Reeves had a great physique his whole life until cancer started to rob his health.
To Steve Reeves credit I'm glad that teenagers and kids in their 20's are still talking about him. How many of these super roid guys will be remembered 20 years from now?
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To Steve Reeves credit I'm glad that teenagers and kids in their 20's are still talking about him. How many of these super roid guys will be remembered 20 years from now?
Reeves will always be a legend.
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Sorry gh15, Reeves doesn't look juiced in ANY of those pics.
Guy was great as a teen and built on it from there. End of story.