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Pics by George Legeros from http://www.femuscle.org
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wow.. anyone else thinks he looks like a total amatuer? True it's offseason but still.. carries no size off season?
I think once he is on stage with real competition (ie olympia or arnold classic) his flaws and lack of size and maturity will be apparent.
Thanks for the pics 240
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Please....he does not look like an amatuer....
The reason why you say that is because he is alone onstage by himself. Put another offseason person on that same stage, you wll see that Phil still has the other guy beat....
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wow.. anyone else thinks he looks like a total amatuer? True it's offseason but still.. carries no size off season?
Still looks a helluva lot better than some of the other pros during their 'off-season'.
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looks great for off season imo
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Phil needs to chain himself to a nautilus pullover machine for the next 2 years to bring his lats up.
His awesome arms look like they're doing most of the work on his pulldowns and rows...
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Flex wheeler wannabe....
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Pics by George Legeros from http://www.femuscle.org
2007 Mr. O champ right there 8)
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He looks OK for a middle weight, nothing special
Dexter, JJ, Branch and others will give him some stiff competition
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Just because he wasn't able to grow as much without drugs(duh) does not negate his success on the pro level. He's on a level paying field and unless proven otherwise(overreliance on drugs for example), the man should be given due respect.
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Hate to agree with you, but you are in fact correct. That and genetics of course.
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2007 Mr. O champ right there 8)
I don't see how he beats Dextor, Gustavo, Branch, Cutler, Gunther...assuming that ronnie retires
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Hate to agree with you, but you are in fact correct. That and genetics of course.
Croatch when the hell did you get the muggshot in your avatar bro? ;D
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Classic Wheeler:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90048.0;attach=97386;image)
huh ???
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i cant believe that's the same person who won his 1st two pro shows. he looks nothing like he did.
most pros look fatter, but at least bigger, and you can see how they'd look if dieted down.
phil looks like a guy competing at a local show. he still has nice shape, but fuckking A.
for once i believe you about the drugs with phil, adonis.
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dude looks like shit for a professional bodybuilder. i have no idea why all the hype over this kid.
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Wheeler would hit the single arm pose just like that, with the same sway in his movement and opposite hand on his hip.
why do you think I called him a wannabe Wheeler? Bottom line is, he can't even compare to Flex, especially at Flex's signature pose
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I have to agree he is going to get crushed at a big show
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Nice to see the majority agree with my thoughts. Yes he was great at his first show, 2nd still pretty good but couldn't hold his condition. BUT offseason.. horrible.. as many here agree.
Perhaps we have another "Levrone - add 40 pounds of lean in 3 months" physique going on.. whatever works.
::)
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of course he's gonna be smaller, he's not gonna take as much drugs far from a contest.
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Wow Shaun Crump looks pretty impressive 2006 offseason compared to Phil Heath!.. 8)
Guest posing at the 2006 North Carolina
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/crump/_T3A0987_jpg.jpg)
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/crump/_T3A0985_jpg.jpg)
Guest posing with Jay Cutler. 8)
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/crump/cutler3.jpg)
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I don't see how he beats Dextor, Gustavo, Branch, Cutler, Gunther...assuming that ronnie retires
Dont see him beating those guys either....
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I have to agree he is going to get crushed at a big show
He's about the size of Ronnie's quad...
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Yeah, I don't think disgusted was following along with our Wheeler comparisons. I think he thought I was confusing him with Flex.
Yep I was lost. ;D I will say that conditioning is the main reason he looked like he did and drugs obviously, but I give him credit for the conditioning. His front lats look OK when in shape, but you can really see how under developed they are in the off season with a little body fat. In fact a lot of his genetic weaknesses that I noticed really start to show when not in shape. Basically he needs more overall size.
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First off: Phil looks terrible offseason.
Second: As you can see without all the drugs he takes, he looks like total shit.
Phil if your reading this,,,I am a fan but it is so apparent that you must be on so many drugs, because without all the drugs you look like total SHIT....sorry bro,,just the truth
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90048.0;attach=97385;image)
1. He still has some incredible shape.
2. narrow chest and small back become more apparent when rest of him fills out
3. He's probably cut back, but by no means looks "off" gear
4. His arms are awesome.
5. He doesn't look like a "strong" bodybuilder. Offseason, most pros look powerful. He does not. (I know, someone will jump on here with tales of Phil benching 1000 lbs for reps while getting a BJ on a rest day, but he just doesn't look powerful.)
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he looks like a smaller version of Melvin Anthony
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Phil looks bigger when he competes than he does in the offseason
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I don't understand why you guys say that they are on more drugs while dieting ?
Why would they need more drugs while they are dieting if they aren't trying to gain muscle ???
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keep em from loosing what muscle they do have
really ?
I didn't tought they needed more drugs just the keep the muscle, seems strange to me
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Flex Wheeler wannabe? You guys are wrong....
Phil Heath is the "second coming" of Flex Wheeler! The Savior of symmetry and "bodybuilding" has come!!!
He is the messiah of Bodybuilding ;)
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"Total shit", "local amateur competitor", "tiny".
LMAO!!! O man, good thing I came on here tonight. You guys are funny bastards. The people who said those things should be brought outside and shot!
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Flex Wheeler wannabe? You guys are wrong....
Phil Heath is the "second coming" of Flex Wheeler! The Savior of symmetry and "bodybuilding" has come!!!
He is the messiah of Bodybuilding ;)
not even close ::)
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As the leader of the team Phil Heat, I just want to say fuck off to all those Flex wheeler bullshit !
He isn't Flex Wheeler
He isn't Shawn Ray
He isn't Kevin Levrone
but I'll tell you who he is: He is frickin Phil Heat and will build a legend around his name, juste like the 3 dudes mention above !
NOTHING STOP THE HEAT !!!
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Props to Heath, that's how one should look in the offseason. It only counts on contest day!!
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really ?
I didn't tought they needed more drugs just the keep the muscle, seems strange to me
Kevin and Ronnie both come off in the off season and load up the last 4-5 months. It's called muscle memory.
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Props to Heath, that's how one should look in the offseason. It only counts on contest day!!
hahahahaha, ok tubby!! Do you use the same excuse to shoulder press the 60's in the "offseason"? hahahahaha
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If I remember correctly Phil said at the Bodyrock that he was the 3rd best guy in the world right now behind Ronnie and Jay.
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If I remember correctly Phil said at the Bodyrock that he was the 3rd best guy in the world right now behind Ronnie and Jay.
LOOLLLL...he is delusional. 3rd best in the world with no back ???
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Kevin and Ronnie both come off in the off season and load up the last 4-5 months. It's called muscle memory.
yeah but Ronnie and Kev had all the mass they needed
Someone who is trying to get bigger would use more gear in the off season to make greater gains no ?
I really don't understand this ;D
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Phil is better than this ???
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/04gnc17.jpg)
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hahahahaha, ok tubby!! Do you use the same excuse to shoulder press the 60's in the "offseason"? hahahahaha
Are you referring to the pics of me with the 120's? Between you and "sarcasm" I can't tell who's worse with math :-\!!
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Are you referring to the pics of me with the 120's? Between you and "sarcasm" I can't tell who's worse with math :-\!!
I'm double majoring in math bro!!!
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I'm double majoring in math bro!!!
Yet you're off by 60lbs.....sue the school, they fucked up!
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yeah but Ronnie and Kev had all the mass they needed
Someone who is trying to get bigger would use more gear in the off season to make greater gains no ?
I really don't understand this ;D
True but he is just off a show so he would most likely be taking a break for a while and would lost some size. This is turn will give us a glimpse of what he might look like before he started lifting although not to the full extent.
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i cant believe that's the same person who won his 1st two pro shows. he looks nothing like he did. most pros look fatter, but at least bigger, and you can see how they'd look if dieted down. phil looks like a guy competing at a local show. he still has nice shape, but fuckking A.
Well - hence the world of a bodybuilder on contest day and on offseason. For offseason, Phil looks great. The guy just won two pro shows, went to Hawaii and proposed to his girl, and is enjoying with new Met-Rx contract and everything that goes with it. It would be crazy for Phil to stay in contest ready shape in the offseason - for what reason? It only matters on that Saturday on the day of the contest. He is not going to compete at the Olympia, but is instead concentrating on winning the 2007 Arnold Classic, going head to head with Dexter.
dude looks like shit for a professional bodybuilder. i have no idea why all the hype over this kid.
It called conditioning, symmetry, and character. Obviously, he is not a mass monster freak, nor chooses to be. But if he can only get better when he is in contest shape, he will be a force to be reckoned with.
Phil Heath is the "second coming" of Flex Wheeler! The Savior of symmetry and "bodybuilding" has come!!! Why do you think I called him a wannabe Wheeler? Bottom line is, he can't even compare to Flex, especially at Flex's signature pose
Flex Wheeler was just on Muscle Radio, and like Phil Heath, as a rookie, did some incredible things. Comparing Phil Heath to Flex is a great honor.
I have to agree he is going to get crushed at a big show
2007 Arnold - he should be one of the youngest on the stage, and will be in the top 5.
I will say that conditioning is the main reason he looked like he did and drugs obviously, but I give him credit for the conditioning.
Correct - even Darrem Charles was stunned by the quality of Phil Heath.
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Yet you're off by 60lbs.....sue the school, they fucked up!
damnit, u better me makin fun of my school and not me >:(
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damnit, u better me makin fun of my school and not me >:(
Would you like me to make fun of you for going to that school :P??
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wow okay...ill be the first to say this
all drugs
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Flex Wheeler was just on Muscle Radio, and like Phil Heath, as a rookie, did some incredible things. Comparing Phil Heath to Flex is a great honor.
Yeah, being compared to a roid/sythol abuser who had a huge ego, is a big honor. In fact, I hope one day someone compares me to Pablo Escobar.
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As Flex mentioned on Muscleradio (http://Muscleradio) when people stop trying to cut you down is when you need to be concerned.
MONSTER JEALOUSY on this thread.
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I dont think people here pick on Phil because they are jealous of him but because they have favorite bodybuilders and are loyal to that particular bodybuilder....hence why they like taking him apart and focusing on his weaknesses...but I can bet you Phil reads this stuff and is jotting down and knows what he needs to improve on and is working on bettering that.
My favorite bodybuilder of all time is Shawn Ray...then Wheeler....then Heath....but Im beginning to like Heath's physique a lot...
Shawn ...you need to come back and win that Sandow!!!
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Why does it matter so much how they look offseason? Unless you're paying to see them guest pose, I don't see a reason for the fans to hate on them.
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As Flex mentioned on Muscleradio (http://Muscleradio) when people stop trying to cut you down is when you need to be concerned.
MONSTER JEALOUSY on this thread.
Phil needs to get his lats up or he will become the new king of the $10,000 shows. His rear lat spread is VERY weak.
He has a problem a lot of guys with great arms have. Their brachioradialus muscle takes over in their back movements.
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Phil needs to get his lats up or he will become the new king of the $10,000 shows. His rear lat spread is VERY weak.
He has a problem a lot of guys with great arms have. Their brachioradialus muscle takes over in their back movements.
agreed. i don't see him winning the O or the ASC. like most younger bodybuilders, his back needs work.
who knows, he may not even be training all that much right now and is on small maintenace at this time.
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agreed. i don't see him winning the O or the ASC. like most younger bodybuilders, his back needs work.
who knows, he may not even be training all that much right now and is on small maintenace at this time.
yeah, who cares how he looks right now off the heavy sauce and resting up.
I hope he doesn't try to stay in shape year round and burn himself out.
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wow okay...ill be the first to say this
all drugs
nahhhhh. I don't think it's "all drugs" that's too simplistic. If it was you'd have a bunch of guys who've only been training for a few years looking like that. Dudes probably a pure mesmorph plus he has the ability to look pretty damn good come contest day. The whole "all drugs" thing is too simplistic.
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Synthol.
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He is not doing isulin right now or taking long off like Ronnie.
If you have the mass of a pro,you cant hide it like Lee Priest.
Even Shawn looked way bigger than Phil in his off season.
I think its not optimum ilusion(his size looks small) but maybe he is not doing isulin or not going to Gym.
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Well - hence the world of a bodybuilder on contest day and on offseason. For offseason, Phil looks great. The guy just won two pro shows, went to Hawaii and proposed to his girl, and is enjoying with new Met-Rx contract and everything that goes with it. It would be crazy for Phil to stay in contest ready shape in the offseason - for what reason? It only matters on that Saturday on the day of the contest. He is not going to compete at the Olympia, but is instead concentrating on winning the 2007 Arnold Classic, going head to head with Dexter.
It called conditioning, symmetry, and character. Obviously, he is not a mass monster freak, nor chooses to be. But if he can only get better when he is in contest shape, he will be a force to be reckoned with.
Flex Wheeler was just on Muscle Radio, and like Phil Heath, as a rookie, did some incredible things. Comparing Phil Heath to Flex is a great honor.
2007 Arnold - he should be one of the youngest on the stage, and will be in the top 5.
Correct - even Darrem Charles was stunned by the quality of Phil Heath.
cant wait for the 2007 ASC I want Phil to defeat dexter badly, very badly
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Looks good for offseason. Doesnt have the small joints like Flex...so nothing stands out. Actually... his traps seem overpowering from the front. Guys like Kev, Shawn and Flex have had conditioning like no other and couldnt get a O trop. I'd place him 4th among those guys. But you never know with Ronnie out the picture, he could beat any of the other pros with 15-20lbs on his frame which will come in the next 2-3 yrs.
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Cutler looks like a pumpkin head...
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It's sad how the IFBB gets guys like this hopes up and he won't win a major show or make any more prize money or at least enough to pay he bills.
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It's sad how the IFBB gets guys like this hopes up and he won't win a major show or make any more prize money or at least enough to pay he bills.
You really gotta stop talking out of your ass Keith. The guy won 2 pro shows in his rookie season, something most competitiors never accomplish in their entire career.
Care to wager on him not winning a major show?
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Wow Shaun Crump looks pretty impressive 2006 offseason compared to Phil Heath!.. 8)
Guest posing at the 2006 North Carolina
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/crump/_T3A0987_jpg.jpg)
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/crump/_T3A0985_jpg.jpg)
Guest posing with Jay Cutler. 8)
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/crump/cutler3.jpg)
Crump is built like a block house.
Guy should never get a pro card with a taper like that.
YIP
Zack
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2 Pro Shows- Two Pro Wins= $45,000.00 plus a new Contract exceeding Six Figures two years strait with Met Rx and the Arnold coming in 6 months...............Doo ooooo! :o
Wake up Keith, Phil congrats on the New house, Contract, Pro Wins and the Arnold coming up in 07!
Welcoem to the Big Leagues, they love you then hate you.
Twist it up on em yo, and do the Damn Thing! ;D
S. Ray
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2 Pro Shows- Two Pro Wins= $45,000.00 plus a new Contract exceeding Six Figures two years strait with Met Rx and the Arnold coming in 6 months...............Doo ooooo! :o
Wake up Keith, Phil congrats on the New house, Contract, Pro Wins and the Arnold coming up in 07!
Welcoem to the Big Leagues, they love you then hate you.
Twist it up on em yo, and do the Damn Thing! ;D
S. Ray
Stop talking like you're black.
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2 Pro Shows- Two Pro Wins= $45,000.00 plus a new Contract exceeding Six Figures two years strait with Met Rx and the Arnold coming in 6 months...............Doo ooooo! :o
Wake up Keith, Phil congrats on the New house, Contract, Pro Wins and the Arnold coming up in 07!
Welcoem to the Big Leagues, they love you then hate you.
Twist it up on em yo, and do the Damn Thing! ;D
S. Ray
true that !!
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I think that most guys here are just pissed that phil has accomplish so much with only a few years of bodybuilding training under his belt, that is why they hate on him so much.
So far he has proven all the haters wrong and will continue to do so.
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It's sad how the IFBB gets guys like this hopes up and he won't win a major show or make any more prize money or at least enough to pay he bills.
^You must be joking with this statement.
Stick to making them lame 80s pdi shirts
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The guy repordedly signed a 6 figure contract with Met-Rx, won $35,000 in prize money so far this year, charges $3K for a guest posing appearance.
He's doing okay money wise if he never even dose a top show.
I know......on Getbig $200K a year is nothing.....but for the rest of the world, that kind of bank at 26 years old with no family is doing okay.
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The guy repordedly signed a 6 figure contract with Met-Rx, won $35,000 in prize money so far this year, charges $3K for a guest posing appearance.
He's doing okay money wise if he never even dose a top show.
I know......on Getbig $200K a year is nothing.....but for the rest of the world, that kind of bank at 26 years old with no family is doing okay.
Flex Wheeler got anything upto 100k a guest pose, but this was when he was 0.0%.
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Flex Wheeler got anything upto 100k a guest pose, but this was when he was 0.0%.
0.0%??!!!!!
Who did the caliper test? And where?
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0.0% bodyfat??!!
Bullshit! :o
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According to Jim Quinn..... ;D
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According to Jim Quinn..... ;D
I knew I could count on you!
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As Flex mentioned on Muscleradio (http://Muscleradio) when people stop trying to cut you down is when you need to be concerned.
MONSTER JEALOUSY on this thread.
monster homosexuality in your post
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50%people have hatred towards pro bodybuilders because they are held up as heroes by the other 50%
when in fact they are not heroes. they spent a few days in the week working out 20 sets a workout maybe less eat good food take alot of drugs. they are nothing but regular human beings to me
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All drugs?
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Mostly drugs.
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P. Heath will NEVER, EVER, be as GREAT as S. Ray!!!!!!!!!!!!!