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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Croatch on August 22, 2006, 10:20:49 PM
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I remember when I did a cycle people used to ask me how I put on so much weight, so quickly. I thought is sucked lying to people and telling them, "I've been eating a lot of red meat." Does anyone come across this and do you feel like a clown for not being truthful about where you get your gains?
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Is this a new type of meat Croatch?
Typing meltdown. ;D
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Out of morbid curiosity, were you a fan of "THE TALKING HEADS" when you were young?
I was just watching them today in fact. The old SNL 25 years of music dvd. Funny you said that.
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Wait wait wait... are we talking about the juice, or my malignant cocaine habit? :P
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i have to lie to people all the time about my steroid use....i tell them "you're right, I am on steroids, now stop asking me"
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I TELL THEM CELL GNC!
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croatch sleeps with old japanese men for drugs-lol :o
he lies about turning tricks daily-lol
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My woman gets mad when I'm taking ECA at 5 pm.
"If you need caffeine, then you need sleep. Go to bed".
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croatch sleeps with old japanese men for drugs-lol
he lies about turning tricks daily-lol
It pays well and beats a real job. ;D
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It pays well and beats a real job. ;D
LOL.
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Tonight I saw one of those awesome kids who have worked out 3 months before deciding to do steroids...he was wearing a tank-top and you could see all his nice bacne and his monster 13" arms.
To me, this is the one exception. When you're a teenager, you do a lot of dumb shit.
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...dumb yes but i think he was late teens/early 20's...so he was just dumb all around
Nothing about drug use impresses me.
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Nothing about drug use impresses me.
Yup, well said.
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seconds later that same officer arrested McGruff for flashing his furry whang to a 8 year old girl
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seconds later that same officer arrested McGruff for flashing his furry whang to a 8 year old girl
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA..... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! ;D
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seconds later that same officer arrested McGruff for flashing his furry whang to a 8 year old girl
remember, little ones. Only YOU can prevent blueballs.
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I remember when I did a cycle people used to ask me how I put on so much weight, so quickly. I thought is sucked lying to people and telling them, "I've been eating a lot of red meat." Does anyone come across this and do you feel like a clown for not being truthful about where you get your gains?
Only when i'm in the presence of people who do not know or understand the "gym philosophy". People that do not know how to train or workout, diet, compete, shows, posing oil, get the drift?
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Yea sticking with the original premise of the thread...
I would be in the gym and someone would say...DAMN SMELLS LIKE SOMEONE HAS BEEN SMOKING POT.... I would reply "Fuggin Hippies!!"
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Didn't you claim to be natural Croatch? or did you lost your drug gains? anyway you have a great physique.
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nope. Never did drugs. I was thinking about it when I was getting ready for my first show but then I got sick and my liver and spleen got trashed so any drug use went out the window. I had alot of people telling me I could do really well if I took it to the next level, guys who were competing on the national level at the time. I was gonna do my first show natural and if I did well I was thinking of doing a lite cycle. I'll tell people that story if they ask, no big deal.
I don't condemn people who do roids. Different strokes for different folks and all that stuff.
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Don’t lie about your drug use. Tell them your physique is all built on drugs; you popped a few pills and after a few days you had bulging muscles. It was so easy! They should try it. That should shut them up.
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I had a buddy in college that used to tell people it was all due to tuna fish and eggs. He just forgot to mention that the D-bol was causing the bloat
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If you fucking juice you better damn sure should admit it. IF you don`t, you and others around you might not realize that you are in fact, ALL DRUGS.
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I tend to lie about my drug use whenever I get pulled over.
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If you ing juice you better damn sure should admit it. IF you don`t, you and others around you might not realize that you are in fact, ALL DRUGS.
TA.. why does it bother you so bad that others use drugs. Why dont you just concentrate on yourself?
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Yes but there are some hard working strict dieting juicers too, so i can imagine if they don't tell it to the avarage joe because they will say anybody can be like you if they swallow some pills. it's frustrating because they don't have a clue what you have to do for it.
Offcourse that doesn't count for these little bitches who only rely on drugs for their gains and train and eat like shit.
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Haha i swear im going to bring my digi to the gym to get a few shots of these specimens that work out there!!! AAHAHAH monster delusions about being natural.
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LOL, this thread is great!!
i intend to do a cycle soon, so im already planning what im going to say if i start to grow quickly (wich i want to...)
Specially for my family, they are my biggest worry...My girlfriend knows it, and while she doesnt like the idea, she is not against it...
I think the biggest excuse will be the Myoplex+whey+lots of food ! HAHA
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If you fucking juice you better damn sure should admit it. IF you don`t, you and others around you might not realize that you are in fact, ALL DRUGS.
I love TA's posts of people are all drugs the minute they touch any gear...It is down right hilarious he is so obsessed with it...I will tell you this TA I am only around 5'5" or 5'6" but naturally before I touched anything I was able to get up to over 200lbs in body-weight after I did a few cycles I only got as high as the 220's...As of now I am not using and I stay around 190lbs to 210lbs...Sorry but, its not "ALL DRUGS" LoL
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I love TA's posts of people are all drugs the minute they touch any gear...It is down right hilarious he is so obsessed with it...I will tell you this TA I am only around 5'5" or 5'6" but naturally before I touched anything I was able to get up to over 200lbs in body-weight after I did a few cycles I only got as high as the 220's...As of now I am not using and I stay around 190lbs to 210lbs...Sorry but, its not "ALL DRUGS" LoL
Anybody can be a 200 plus pound fat ass. Whats your point?
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Anybody can be a 200 plus pound fat ass. Whats your point?
are you saying that "jaggyshortbuff" is the typical queer that you see in a gym who is 200lbs. with 13 inch arms, 19 inch legs and a 38 inch waist, Adonis?
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are you saying that "jaggyshortbuff" is the typical queer that you see in a gym who is 200lbs. with 13 inch arms, 19 inch legs and a 38 inch waist, Adonis?
Fatter than a retarded construction worker eating a ham biscuit.
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Anybody can be a 200 plus pound fat ass. Whats your point?
Always hits a nerve with you about gear use lol...I wonder why that is??? Maybe it is because you have awful genetics and you know not even with gear would your body be aesthetically pleasing lol...Also I have nothing to prove to you, so throw around the fat ass comments...I just find it hilarious you jump on the uneducated ban-wagon of "ALL DRUGS"...That is like saying to someone "you lost all that weight because 5 years ago you used ephedrine" please lol...You put gear on a platform of a miracle drug or something hahaha
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Fatter than a retarded construction worker eating a ham biscuit.
Ok. That one made me laugh. :)
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Out of morbid curiosity, were you a fan of "THE TALKING HEADS" when you were young? ???
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lol my heads hurts by just looking @ the pic
Croatch you're CREATIVE bro! ;D
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I think Adonis has a problem with most people who juice themselves silly, because he knows what it takes to make gains naturally. Then when you see some guy lifting light weight with "mind muscle connection", he grows like mad due to the shit he's taking, not his intesity or dedication to the sport. I have to admit, seeing people who juice and think they're hardcore, are simply clowns to me and rarely am I impressed with their work ethic.
Great example. At 18, I took a monster cycle for 2 months and put on 30lbs in 2 months. Diet was weak, trained kind of hard, and that was it. So, speaking from my experience, gaining muscle on gear is almost laughable.
So remember kids, Captain Croatch says only 2 dbol a week, no more!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90450.0;attach=97842;image)
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Fatter than a retarded construction worker eating a ham biscuit.
not all retards are fat and we dont like ham sandwiches
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/dobydog/retardnow.jpg)
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I think Adonis has a problem with most people who juice themselves silly, because he knows what it takes to make gains naturally. Then when you see some guy lifting light weight with "mind muscle connection", he grows like mad due to the shit he's taking, not his intesity or dedication to the sport. I have to admit, seeing people who juice and think they're hardcore, are simply clowns to me and rarely am I impressed with their work ethic.
Great example. At 18, I took a monster cycle for 2 months and put on 30lbs in 2 months. Diet was weak, trained kind of hard, and that was it. So, speaking from my experience, gaining muscle on gear is almost laughable.
So remember kids, Captain Croatch says only 2 dbol a week, no more!
Well it is a choice to use gear or not to...To get offended by people that do and get great results is really stupid...No one is asking for TA's respect when they lift, so why should he get so offended by people who do use gear???
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If you fucking juice you better damn sure should admit it. IF you don`t, you and others around you might not realize that you are in fact, ALL DRUGS.
You'll be interested in what your fan Bast has been up to.
He's your Mark Chapman, look at it that way... ;D
YIP
Zack
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so why should he get so offended by people who do use gear???
If one was secure with themself and had more confidence....they would not care about people who juice
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not all retards are fat and we dont like ham sandwiches
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/dobydog/retardnow.jpg)
hahahahahahahahah
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If one was secure with themself and had more confidence....they would not care about people who juice
BOOOMMM!!! WoW, couldn't have said it better....Amazing honesty....
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Ill tell them its all hard work in the gym.. they just arent doing thigns properly lolol f**k them its none of their business
True. It's nobody's business, but your own. However, that's like someone in a Prelude asking you how you consistently beat them, while racing a Ferrari. "It's the special tires I have on my car." I don't know, I'd feel like a joker giving that response.
If one was secure with themself and had more confidence....they would not care about people who juice
I am secure and have confidence, but that doesn't change the fact I laugh when I see a 2nd rate juicer who thinks he's hardcore. Monster reality.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/dobydog/retardnow.jpg)
Honestly though, special thanks to many on this site. I get a few solid laughs in every day because of it.
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BOOOMMM!!! WoW, couldn't have said it better....Amazing honesty....
Its the complete opposite with me. Everytime I see a juicer I think, "Your gains are temporal, Mine are not" . "IF you don`t compete and juice, you cannot deal with your own self-image in its natural state." "Your gains are the result of chemicals, mine are the result of real work". "You think you are genetically gifted, I think you are a joke".
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True. It's nobody's business, but your own. However, that's like someone in a Prelude asking you how you consistently beat them, while racing a Ferrari. "It's the special tires I have on my car." I don't know, I'd feel like a joker giving that response.
Well when I did cycle if it wasn't illegal I would have been honest with people about it...I have no reason to keep it a secret, nor do I go around claiming to be lifetime natural and talking down to naturals...
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Its the complete opposite with me. Everytime I see a juicer I think, "Your gains are temporal, Mine are not" . "IF you don`t compete and juice, you cannot deal with your own self-image in its natural state." "Your gains are the result of chemicals, mine are the result of real work". "You think you are genetically gifted, I think you are a joke".
Monster truth. And many times, "competing" puts a meaning behind taking a ton of gear. I'd say less than half of the people who compete, would do so if drugs weren't a part of it.
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Its the complete opposite with me. Everytime I see a juicer I think, "Your gains are temporal, Mine are not" . "IF you don`t compete and juice, you cannot deal with your own self-image in its natural state." "Your gains are the result of chemicals, mine are the result of real work". "You think you are genetically gifted, I think you are a joke".
how is that the complete opposite? You are trying to compete against them in your mind. You are to concerned with what they are taking instead of concentrating on yourself.
You are talking to yourself in your mind and getting owned by some juice head that is not even paying attention to you. You are, in essence, helping that juicehead to own you.
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Its the complete opposite with me. Everytime I see a juicer I think, "Your gains are temporal, Mine are not" . "IF you don`t compete and juice, you cannot deal with your own self-image in its natural state." "Your gains are the result of chemicals, mine are the result of real work". "You think you are genetically gifted, I think you are a joke".
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Just like I said before...Yes, I have used gear before but I don't now and really the only difference is strength and I maintain around the same size... I waited until I built my physique naturally before I used...Will I use again??? Maybe, but it will be because of vanity reasons and I do admit that...Do I need gear no...I do respect naturals, but I have trained both ways and I am not pro nor against gear...
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how is that the complete opposite? You are trying to compete against them in your mind. You are to concerned with what they are taking instead of concentrating on yourself.
You are talking to yourself in your mind and getting owned by some juice head that is not even paying attention to you. You are, in essence, helping that juicehead to own you.
I am not competing with anyone, only myself. I have already won against the juicer since I realize that their gains are more a result of their drug usage than anything. I have already won against the juicer because I don`t have to constantly be on some sort of chemical to keep up a certain look. Everyday is an opportunity to better myself and that is all I am concerned with. I am winning. I can only progress forward. Juicers, when they stop, only go backwards.
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I am not competing with anyone, only myself. I have already won against the juicer since I realize that their gains are more a result of their drug usage than anything. I have already won against the juicer because I don`t have to constantly be on some sort of chemical to keep up a certain look. Everyday is an opportunity to better myself and that is all I am concerned with. I am winning. I can only progress forward. Juicers, when they stop, only go backwards.
I understand and agree, but you just seem to always talk about juicers....it appears to me and most that you really let juicers get under your skin
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I am not competing with anyone, only myself. I have already won against the juicer since I realize that their gains are more a result of their drug usage than anything. I have already won against the juicer because I don`t have to constantly be on some sort of chemical to keep up a certain look. Everyday is an opportunity to better myself and that is all I am concerned with. I am winning. I can only progress forward. Juicers, when they stop, only go backwards.
Then that must be why you have to constantly post "ALL DRUGS" to remind us all why certain peope have better physiques than your own.......Now I understand....LoL
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Then that must be why you have to constantly post "ALL DRUGS" to remind us all why certain peope have better physiques than your own.......Now I understand....LoL
Not at all. My goal is to bring them back to their own reality. They think they are special or some sort of genetic elite, when they are not. "All Drugs" is short and to the point and an accurate assessment. They tend to forget the only reason why they put on the 30 lbs is because of a chemical and nothing else. Not a new training routine,new supplement or new eating pattern. If that was what is responsible, then why not just do that?
Simple fact is their gains come from "All Drugs" because if they did the same thing naturally they would be making the whopper 3-5 lb muscle gains a year that normal genetically elite humans make.
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How often? ;D
Bast 10-07-2003 03:12 AM
I'm putting myself out there, I'm only 19 but I have a hard time gaining weight. *I used 1-AD and gained 1-2lbs each week using that. *Hypothetically speaking (lol) if i took just 1-2 dbol a day, would that not spurt my weight gain without side effects and would i keep any of the gain? *Then a few years from now I could get into the injectables.. * I think I'll stick with 1-AD but a lot of you guys seem to imply that juice in small dosages can't hurt... *hmmm?? *My diet is not clean either, I eat as much as I can every day and my weight is stagnant for periods at a time.
where do you buy it for $10?
I've used 1AD before and that helped me gain size but it's $40 a bottle.
YIP
Zack
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Not at all. My goal is to bring them back to their own reality. They think they are special or some sort of genetic elite, when they are not. "All Drugs" is short and to the point and an accurate assessment. They tend to forget the only reason why they put on the 30 lbs is because of a chemical and nothing else. Not a new training routine,new supplement or new eating pattern. If that was what is responsible, then why not just do that?
Simple fact is their gains come from "All Drugs" because if they did the same thing naturally they would be making the whopper 3-5 lb muscle gains a year that normal genetically elite humans make.
Well you have a valid point there I do agree, but you can't get mad at them for it...Its called marketing and the fact is that gear is illegal, so of course they can't be vocal about it...Case and point is that the companies sponsoring them are the ones you should be angry with not the person themself...Been reading to many magazines....
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Fatter than a retarded construction worker eating a ham biscuit.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Classic!
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Now thats a shirt only a guido spaghetti eater would only wear! Brutal sterotype.
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Well you have a valid point there I do agree, but you can't get mad at them for it...Its called marketing and the fact is that gear is illegal, so of course they can't be vocal about it...Case and point is that the companies sponsoring them are the ones you should be angry with not the person themself...Been reading to many magazines....
I`m just not really amazed with today`s bodybuilder and their extreme reliance/dependence of steroids. I AM angry at the writers,companies,the Competitive organizations. They are holding everyone back by promoting the "All Drugs" bodybuilders. The latest one is Phil Heath. That is why I have been so vocal about him. He is being touted around and promoted when all he is made up of is drugs. The kid only broke 170lbs because of drug usage. How is that something to be proud of? How is that amazing? The people in the industry do read this and I will not stop. There is no reason to be promoting this clown. I don`t have an answer as to who should be on the front of the magazines because the whole industry is fucked, but I do know it needs to change. The very bodybuilding writers,such as Shawn Perine and Peter Mcgough do not really care for todays physiques either they have made this clear through their posts and random articles here and there. I Do not understand why they continue to fuel the debauchery and lies and patheticness that Pro Bodybuilding has become.
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How often? ;D
Bast 10-07-2003 03:12 AM
I'm putting myself out there, I'm only 19 but I have a hard time gaining weight. *I used 1-AD and gained 1-2lbs each week using that. *Hypothetically speaking (lol) if i took just 1-2 dbol a day, would that not spurt my weight gain without side effects and would i keep any of the gain? *Then a few years from now I could get into the injectables.. * I think I'll stick with 1-AD but a lot of you guys seem to imply that juice in small dosages can't hurt... *hmmm?? *My diet is not clean either, I eat as much as I can every day and my weight is stagnant for periods at a time.
where do you buy it for $10?
I've used 1AD before and that helped me gain size but it's $40 a bottle.
YIP
Zack
does that mean he is out of the contest?
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nobody wants to admit they're using drugs. they want us all to imagine it. but dont fcuking come in my face and tell me you're 275lbs with 6% body fat all natural. Well, my friends, since WHEN was the last time you were at the OLYMPIA ALL STAR SEMINAR and have all these Beefcake telling the audience about steroids...ha,ha,ha. THAT WOULD BE THE DAY
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does that mean he is out of the contest?
No. he has to start in the juicers section now. ;D
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i have to lie to people all the time about my steroid use....i tell them "you're right, I am on steroids, now stop asking me"
lol I'm sure you do!
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nobody wants to admit they're using drugs. they want us all to imagine it. but dont fcuking come in my face and tell me you're 275lbs with 6% body fat all natural. Well, my friends, since WHEN was the last time you were at the OLYMPIA ALL STAR SEMINAR and have all these Beefcake telling the audience about steroids...ha,ha,ha. THAT WOULD BE THE DAY
Thats the name of the game....Gotta take it or leave it...Getbig is here for us to rant and rave our own senseless opinions about bodybuilding...If we feel it is making a difference in our own minds and helps us sleep at night than so be it......
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No. he has to start in the juicers section now. ;D
Seriously? that was some time ago.
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Thats the name of the game....Gotta take it or leave it...Getbig is here for us to rant and rave our own senseless opinions about bodybuilding...If we feel it is making a difference in our own minds and helps us sleep at night than so be it......
well, believe or not, here, at getbig.com, we tell it like it fcuking is. that's why some cant HANDLE THE TRUTH TOO WELL. our opinions matters, cause we say what these fcukers dont wanna say
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Seriously? that was some time ago.
So what? He's not natural. He's a hormone abuser, he starts in the juicer section. ;D ;D
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well, believe or not, here, at getbig.com, we tell it like it fcuking is. that's why some cant HANDLE THE TRUTH TOO WELL. our opinions matters, cause we say what these fcukers dont wanna say
And that is what makes Getbig so great...Our opinions do matter to some other getbiggers lol ::)
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So what? He's not natural. He's a hormone abuser, he starts in the juicer section. ;D ;D
I hope Mindspin catches it. I can't believe that little midget was trying to get one over on us!
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does that mean he is out of the contest?
Out of the contest?
After this little mishap, I was more interested to see if he was ever gonna log in again.
One step at a time... ;D
YIP
Zack
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TA is a very proud person who bases his identity largely on his strong muscular physique. When he sees people who are bigger and better than himself, he needs to find something to deride their accomplishments. By condeming all steroid users, he is effectively dismissing their superiority. This allows him to feel better about himself and retain his self image of unparralelled greatness.
It's not a knock on the man or his physique. It's a human instinct that we all deal with now and again. I find unfortunate that TA can't just be happy for someone else's accomplishments rather than simply focusing on himself. Again, we all do it to a degree.
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Out of the contest?
After this little mishap, I was more interested to see if he was ever gonna log in again.
One step at a time... ;D
YIP
Zack
Damn, good memory Zack. I hope nobody else is trying to sneak one by and win Mr. Getbig.
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TA is a very proud person who bases his identity largely on his strong muscular physique. When he sees people who are bigger and better than himself, he needs to find something to deride their accomplishments. By condeming all steroid users, he is effectively dismissing their superiority. This allows him to feel better about himself and retain his self image of unparralelled greatness.
It's not a knock on the man or his physique. It's a human instinct that we all deal with now and again. I find unfortunate that TA can't just be happy for someone else's accomplishments rather than simply focusing on himself. Again, we all do it to a degree.
I cant wait for a natural to out shine adonis.....i wonder who that will be ... ;D
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Damn, good memory Zack. I hope nobody else has is trying to sneak one by and win Mr. Getbig.
I agree. The nerve of that guy. I can't believe he was trying to cheat, little fucker!!!!!
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I agree. The nerve of that guy. I can't believe he was trying to cheat, little fucker!!!!!
Too bad there never was any time to get some nice banning rules in for cheaters in the natural class.
25 year ban off Getbig would've been reasonable. ;D
Considering that judge who received 4 years in prison for spanking his monkey in court...
Let's say 50 years.
YIP
Zack
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Its a shame TA is in the squad. I believe that he is natural, but if he associates with cheaters like Bast, some people will doubt his claim.
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Its a shame TA is in the squad. I believe that he is natural, but if he associates with cheaters like Bast, some people will doubt his claim.
The squad is just a bunch of hippies.
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The squad is just a bunch of hippies.
I am amazed at the lengths they'll go to to win this stupid thing. First they tried to buy it, now Bast is caught Cheating :-\
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If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system. Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat.
However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant. The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred. Which brings me to my question:
The current rule for the "natty" class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show. What does everyone think of that time frame? too long? too short? just right?
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I thought it was natural, as in lifetime? at least 3 years if there is a cutoff.
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Natty should be a person who has never ever ever used ...
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Natty should be a person who has never ever ever used ...
isn't that a given?
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well some people think your natural once all the roids leave your body..
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If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system. Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat.
However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant. The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred. Which brings me to my question:
The current rule for the "natty" class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show. What does everyone think of that time frame? too long? too short? just right?
way to short. i'd say natural is lifetime natural, but if there has to be a time limit, make it 15 years. ;D
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If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system. Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat.
However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant. The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred. Which brings me to my question:
The current rule for the "natty" class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show. What does everyone think of that time frame? too long? too short? just right?
I'm more interested in perverted fair and balanced penalties for those who get caught cheating.. ;D
...but they time frame is identical with that of many natty orgs, so that seems to be a good idea.
BTW, would be good to get rid of all those banners on the MrGetbig.com site.
This contest stems from Getbig which is an ad-free place. So it seems only fair that the competition site should follow suit.
YIP
Zack
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way to short. i'd say natural is lifetime natural, but if there has to be a time limit, make it 15 years. ;D
I think one class should be Lifetime Drug free and then have the Other class.
Its really simple.
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I think one class should be Lifetime Drug free and then have the Other class.
Its really simple.
I second that motion!!!
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way to short. i'd say natural is lifetime natural, but if there has to be a time limit, make it 15 years.
Nice. I only have another 3 years to go.
Not at all. My goal is to bring them back to their own reality. They think they are special or some sort of genetic elite, when they are not. "All Drugs" is short and to the point and an accurate assessment. They tend to forget the only reason why they put on the 30 lbs is because of a chemical and nothing else. Not a new training routine,new supplement or new eating pattern. If that was what is responsible, then why not just do that?
Simple fact is their gains come from "All Drugs" because if they did the same thing naturally they would be making the whopper 3-5 lb muscle gains a year that normal genetically elite humans make.
Monster truth.
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what a good thread...you guys gotta get the popcprn eating smiley... :popcorn:
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I think one class should be Lifetime Drug free and then have the Other class.
Its really simple.
for the first time ,I totally agree w/anus,I don't even take supplements :-\
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Everytime I see a juicer I think, "Your gains are temporal, Mine are not."
unfortunately, the same happens when you train natural....
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for the first time ,I totally agree w/anus,I don't even take supplements :-\
Yes, but that's because you're poor and can't afford supps.
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unfortunately, the same happens when you train natural....
...because we all die...
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I tend to lie about my drug use whenever I get pulled over.
Exactly. ;D
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Not at all. My goal is to bring them back to their own reality. They think they are special or some sort of genetic elite, when they are not. "All Drugs" is short and to the point and an accurate assessment. They tend to forget the only reason why they put on the 30 lbs is because of a chemical and nothing else. Not a new training routine,new supplement or new eating pattern. If that was what is responsible, then why not just do that?
Simple fact is their gains come from "All Drugs" because if they did the same thing naturally they would be making the whopper 3-5 lb muscle gains a year that normal genetically elite humans make.
Bro...I could not DISagree with you more. Seriously. If it's "all drugs" help me understand why there are so many juice monkeys out there who look like absolute shit? Ever heard of a guy named Mike Arvilla?
Bottom line TA, if in fact you've never dabbled with gear, you are in no position to espouse a credible opinion on the subject.
In other words, STFU and train ::)
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Bro...I could not DISagree with you more. Seriously. If it's "all drugs" help me understand why there are so many juice monkeys out there who look like absolute shit? Ever heard of a guy named Mike Arvilla?
Bottom line TA, if in fact you've never dabbled with gear, you are in no position to espouse a credible opinion on the subject.
In other words, STFU and train ::)
I go by what I see and what others experience. I don`t think my assessment is any less credible even though I have never used steroids. That is like saying Bob Costa`s assessments of sports are totally off since he never played any.
The truth is that a PRO bodybuilder could in fact be a really shitty natural bodybuilder but respond well to drugs and the inverse is true, that a really good natural could be a shitty bodybuilder on drugs.
Take the drugs out of the equation and you see who the real bodybuilder is though. Its simple. Drugs fuck up everything.
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Bro...I could not DISagree with you more. Seriously. If it's "all drugs" help me understand why there are so many juice monkeys out there who look like absolute shit? Ever heard of a guy named Mike Arvilla?
Bottom line TA, if in fact you've never dabbled with gear, you are in no position to espouse a credible opinion on the subject.
In other words, STFU and train
I myself have done a cycle and was amazed at how easily I attained size. About 30lbs in 2 months. So, I would agree, it's pretty much all drugs with most guys who are on. Sure, there are plenty of people look like crap and on gear and who would look even worse natural. Just cause you take gear, doesn't mean you'll look like a pro. However, pretty much any pro wouldn't be one without gear. Therefore, the "all drugs" comment still applies.
In short, STFU and train.
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I go by what I see and what others experience. I don`t think my assessment is any less credible even though I have never used steroids. That is like saying Bob Costa`s assessments of sports are totally off since he never played any.
The truth is that a PRO bodybuilder could in fact be a really shitty natural bodybuilder but respond well to drugs and the inverse is true, that a really good natural could be a shitty bodybuilder on drugs.
Take the drugs out of the equation and you see who the real bodybuilder is though. Its simple. Drugs f**k up everything.
First of all your Bob Costa Analogy is ridiculous. You're commneting on something which requires intricate knowledge gained either through experience or factual data, neither of which you have. Bob Costa can become a "sports expert" w/o playing the sport and offer credible commentary from a knowledgeable spectators point of view.
Second, you've just contradicted yourself. First you say "all drugs", then you say "PRO bodybuilder could in fact be a really shitty natural bodybuilder but respond well to drugs and the inverse is true..." implying that it is not all drugs, but in fact genetic. Which is it?
I'll tell you. It's mostly genetics. All the juice in the world will not make you a pro if you don't have the genetics to respond well to it.
Every time you say "all drugs" it exposes you for the frustrated natty that you are, unable to make any significant improvements. Get it over it ::)
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I myself have done a cycle and was amazed at how easily I attained size. About 30lbs in 2 months. So, I would agree, it's pretty much all drugs with most guys who are on. Sure, there are plenty of people look like crap and on gear and who would look even worse natural. Just cause you take gear, doesn't mean you'll look like a pro. However, pretty much any pro wouldn't be one without gear. Therefore, the "all drugs" comment still applies.
In short, STFU and train.
Hmmm...how many contradictions can we find in that post alone ::) "all drugs" implies just that...all drugs and no training, dieting, supplements, resting, cardio, etc. Most pros and top-level amatures train like animals. They are not just using their asses as pin cushions and turning into 250 beasts. Are there exceptions? Of course (Hi Paul! Hi Flex!).
By the way, congrats on your 30 lbs off one cycle ::) I'll bet my left nut that you still looked nothing like a pro...
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Anyone notice how big Croatch's head is...He does have very "androgenic" Features...Croatch has said that he only has done one cycle..I'm calling bullshit on that one....I'd say more than 5 myself...
Also The True Adonis has used steriods as well
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In short, STFU and train.
Hey Cro-magnon-atch, isn't that weedouttheweaks motto?
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By the way, congrats on your 30 lbs off one cycle I'll bet my left nut that you still looked nothing like a pro...
Considering I was 18 at the time, no, nothing like a pro.
Of course, pros train and eat food. Drugs alone will not give you gains, but let's get real here. How many of them would be there without extreme drug usage?
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Anyone notice how big Croatch's head is...He does have very "androgenic" Features...Croatch has said that he only has done one cycle..I'm calling bullshit on that one....I'd say more than 5 myself...
Also The True Adonis has used steriods as well
Monster Cranium!
No, one cycle. I can say I've done 6, if it makes you feel better. Doesn't matter to me. In short, ever pound of bloat I gained in 94', I lost by 95'. Everything I gain is all me, nothing drug related. Sometimes I think I'm on gear...ahah Few people have the dedication it takes to make major changes in their physique, so it's only normal to think I'm on, or have taken a bunch of cycles to get where I am today.
Hey Cro-magnon-atch, isn't that weedouttheweaks motto?
Cromagnon...now that's catchy. 8)
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Considering I was 18 at the time, no, nothing like a pro.
Of course, pros train and eat food. Drugs alone will not give you gains, but let's get real here. How many of them would be there without extreme drug usage?Monster Cranium!
No, one cycle. I can say I've done 6, if it makes you feel better. Doesn't matter to me. In short, ever pound of bloat I gained in 94', I lost by 95'. Everything I gain is all me, nothing drug related. Sometimes I think I'm on gear...ahah Few people have the dedication it takes to make major changes in their physique, so it's only normal to think I'm on, or have taken a bunch of cycles to get where I am today.Cromagnon...now that's catchy. 8)
all drugs
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all drugs
Meltdown
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Croatch is the perfect example of a dude who can get big and fairly ripped completely clean, it can be done.
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Croatch is the perfect example of a dude who can get big and fairly ripped completely clean, it can be done.
I see you got your knee pads on
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Anyone notice how big Croatch's head is...He does have very "androgenic" Features...Croatch has said that he only has done one cycle..I'm calling bullshit on that one....I'd say more than 5 myself...
Also The True Adonis has used steriods as well
Lifetime Natural fagstick.
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Lifetime Natural fagstick.
all drugs
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Lifetime Natural fagstick.
So thats how you explain looking like shit..
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If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system. Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat.
However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant. The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred. Which brings me to my question:
The current rule for the "natty" class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show. What does everyone think of that time frame? too long? too short? just right?
I'd be fine with 6 months for PH
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30 lbs on a cycle is nothing...hell I gained 40 lbs naturally in 6 months one year. ::)
All depends on where you're at growth-wise. If he was 18, he was naturally growing and a cycle simply accelerated that. Plus a single, first cycle is the one that will add 30 lbs if any of them are going to. Duh. Doesn't everyone know that? What? You think if you gain 30lbs your first cycle, you'll gain 30 lbs each cycle thereafter? So you'll only need 5 cycles to be a fucken coleman-esque pro bber and gain 150 lbs of muscle?
omg, Rockets IQ test needs to be passed out and those who fail should be sent to time-out
clothesline.
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How often? ;D
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I'm putting myself out there, I'm only 19 but I have a hard time gaining weight. *I used 1-AD and gained 1-2lbs each week using that. *Hypothetically speaking (lol) if i took just 1-2 dbol a day, would that not spurt my weight gain without side effects and would i keep any of the gain? *Then a few years from now I could get into the injectables.. * I think I'll stick with 1-AD but a lot of you guys seem to imply that juice in small dosages can't hurt... *hmmm?? *My diet is not clean either, I eat as much as I can every day and my weight is stagnant for periods at a time.
where do you buy it for $10?
I've used 1AD before and that helped me gain size but it's $40 a bottle.
YIP
Zack
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90450.0;attach=97885;image)
Nice shirt.
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ALL DRUGS! ALL DRUGS!, WHO GIVES A FUCK? ???
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open any fitness magazine = all drugs
open class local show= all drugs
national level = all drugs
IFBB= all drugs
see a trend?.... I have no idea why so many naturals hate so much but yet, claim to be fitness/bodybuilding enthusiast. These are the same dudes who buy fitness Rx, M&F, and all the other magazines filled with substance abusers. If you wanna talk shit, stick with yoga or spin class. Keep taking soy and doing your core exercises. Don't hate on the chisled 200lb dude in sleeveless who gets looks from both men and women. Hating just shows how much you envy that guy.
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I tell'em that I've been in the potato salad again. I always get a few laughs with that one.
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When someone asks me why my eyes are glazed, I reply "I didn't get much sleep last night." Or "I'm pretty tired!"
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Don't hate on the chisled 200lb dude in sleeveless who gets looks from both men and women. Hating just shows how much you envy that guy.
I'm 205 and @6%bf 5' 7 1/2" without drugs. I only hate on those wannabe like me assclowns who take gear and look like dogshit...ahah They'll go in, slam a few weights, wear a small tanktop and think, "I'm a hardcore bodybuilder." These guys are a dime a dozen and I sometimes drop weights laughing so hard to myself. Get real people.
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If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system. Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat.
However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant. The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred. Which brings me to my question:
The current rule for the "natty" class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show. What does everyone think of that time frame? too long? too short? just right?
Are you serious? Pro-hormones? ::) It's not like you get steroid-like results on them.......what's next? Creatine?
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Drug free idiots need to go back to the natural board and they need to stay there. Leave the hardcore bbdg and competing to the people that know. Drugs are a part of the game. We've all said this before.
PB
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Drug free idiots need to go back to the natural board and they need to stay there. Leave the hardcore bbdg and competing to the people that know. Drugs are a part of the game. We've all said this before.
PB
Would you mind explaining what makes a drug free person, an idiot?
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Women love my man-tan and 14 inch arms. Discuss.
what's a "man-tan"?
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Drug free idiots need to go back to the natural board and they need to stay there. Leave the hardcore bbdg and competing to the people that know. Drugs are a part of the game. We've all said this before.
PB
Monster hardcore post. ::) ::)
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what's a "man-tan"?
i think he meant Wan-tan.
Women love my wan-tan and 14 inch chopsticks. Discuss.
(http://www.pasotomo.com/recipe/merumaga/image2/0023wantan.jpg)
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I remember when I did a cycle people used to ask me how I put on so much weight, so quickly. I thought is sucked lying to people and telling them, "I've been eating a lot of red meat." Does anyone come across this and do you feel like a clown for not being truthful about where you get your gains?
never..
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Would you mind explaining what makes a drug free person, an idiot?
The fact the this is a bbdg forum and drugs are a part of it. The idiot part factors in when they try get in the roid user's face about why they take drugs when they do not know the science and mechanics behind it. ;)
PB
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Women love my man-tan and 14 inch arms. Discuss.
Keep working and eating right and then maybe you can restore some of the damage done to your race by Kamali.
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bodybuilding IS drugs
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every morning