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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2006, 11:06:26 AM »
Quote from: danielson on August 23, 2006, 11:00:09 AM
Its a shame TA is in the squad. I believe that he is natural, but if he associates with cheaters like Bast, some people will doubt his claim.

The squad is just a bunch of hippies.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2006, 11:08:27 AM »
Quote from: DonkeyKong on August 23, 2006, 11:06:26 AM
The squad is just a bunch of hippies.

I am amazed at the lengths they'll go to to win this stupid thing. First they tried to buy it, now Bast is caught Cheating :-\
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2006, 11:21:51 AM »
If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system.  Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat. 

However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant.  The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred.  Which brings me to my question:

The current rule for the "natty"  class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show.  What does everyone think of that time frame?  too long?   too short?  just right? 
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2006, 11:26:43 AM »
I thought it was natural, as in lifetime? at least 3 years if there is a cutoff.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2006, 11:28:18 AM »
Natty should be a person who has never ever ever used ...
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2006, 11:28:58 AM »
Quote from: jaejonna on August 23, 2006, 11:28:18 AM
Natty should be a person who has never ever ever used ...

isn't that a given?
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2006, 11:29:41 AM »
well some people think your natural once all the roids leave your body..
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2006, 11:30:39 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on August 23, 2006, 11:21:51 AM
If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system.  Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat. 

However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant.  The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred.  Which brings me to my question:

The current rule for the "natty"  class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show.  What does everyone think of that time frame?  too long?   too short?  just right? 

way to short. i'd say natural is lifetime natural, but if there has to be a time limit, make it 15 years.  ;D
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2006, 11:32:55 AM »
Quote from: MindSpin on August 23, 2006, 11:21:51 AM
If it were up to me, I would make Mr. GetBig all one class since there is no formal test and we are going on the "honor" system.  Undoubtedly some duschebag will gear up and cheat. 

However, this is not my show, so my personal opinion is irrelevant.  The show should reflect the opinion of the board, which seems to be that two classes are preferred.  Which brings me to my question:

The current rule for the "natty"  class is no gear, growth, pro-hormones, slin, etc. for 1-yr before the show.  What does everyone think of that time frame?  too long?   too short?  just right? 

I'm more interested in perverted fair and balanced penalties for those who get caught cheating.. ;D



...but they time frame is identical with that of many natty orgs, so that seems to be a good idea.

BTW, would be good to get rid of all those banners on the MrGetbig.com site.

This contest stems from Getbig which is an ad-free place. So it seems only fair that the competition site should follow suit.




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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2006, 12:55:05 PM »
Quote from: DonkeyKong on August 23, 2006, 11:30:39 AM
way to short. i'd say natural is lifetime natural, but if there has to be a time limit, make it 15 years.  ;D

I think one class should be Lifetime Drug free and then have the Other class.

Its really simple.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2006, 12:59:29 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on August 23, 2006, 12:55:05 PM
I think one class should be Lifetime Drug free and then have the Other class.

Its really simple.
I second that motion!!!
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2006, 01:05:27 PM »
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way to short. i'd say natural is lifetime natural, but if there has to be a time limit, make it 15 years. 
Nice.  I only have another 3 years to go.
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Not at all.  My goal is to bring them back to their own reality.  They think they are special or some sort of genetic elite, when they are not.  "All Drugs" is short and to the point and an accurate assessment.  They tend to forget the only reason why they put on the 30 lbs is because of a chemical and nothing else.  Not a new training routine,new supplement or new eating pattern.  If that was what is responsible, then why not just do that?
Simple fact is their gains come from "All Drugs" because if they did the same thing naturally they would be making the whopper 3-5 lb muscle gains a year that normal genetically elite humans make.
Monster truth.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2006, 01:12:04 PM »
what a good thread...you guys gotta get the popcprn eating smiley...  :popcorn:

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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2006, 01:25:58 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on August 23, 2006, 12:55:05 PM
I think one class should be Lifetime Drug free and then have the Other class.

Its really simple.
for the first time ,I totally agree w/anus,I don't even take supplements :-\
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2006, 01:54:36 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on August 23, 2006, 09:37:49 AM
Everytime I see a juicer I think, "Your gains are temporal, Mine are not."

unfortunately, the same happens when you train natural.... 
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #90 on: August 23, 2006, 02:04:06 PM »
Quote from: whateva on August 23, 2006, 01:25:58 PM
for the first time ,I totally agree w/anus,I don't even take supplements :-\

Yes, but that's because you're poor and can't afford supps.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2006, 02:05:23 PM »
Quote from: triple_pickle on August 23, 2006, 01:54:36 PM
unfortunately, the same happens when you train natural.... 

...because we all die...
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2006, 02:10:16 PM »
Quote from: fathead on August 23, 2006, 06:31:26 AM
I tend to lie about my drug use whenever I get pulled over.

Exactly.  ;D
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #93 on: August 23, 2006, 03:05:59 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on August 23, 2006, 10:04:52 AM
Not at all.  My goal is to bring them back to their own reality.  They think they are special or some sort of genetic elite, when they are not.  "All Drugs" is short and to the point and an accurate assessment.  They tend to forget the only reason why they put on the 30 lbs is because of a chemical and nothing else.  Not a new training routine,new supplement or new eating pattern.  If that was what is responsible, then why not just do that?

Simple fact is their gains come from "All Drugs" because if they did the same thing naturally they would be making the whopper 3-5 lb muscle gains a year that normal genetically elite humans make.


Bro...I could not DISagree with you more.  Seriously.  If it's "all drugs" help me understand why there are so many juice monkeys out there who look like absolute shit?  Ever heard of a guy named Mike Arvilla?

Bottom line TA, if in fact you've never dabbled with gear, you are in no position to espouse a credible opinion on the subject.

In other words, STFU and train ::)
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #94 on: August 23, 2006, 03:16:45 PM »
Quote from: ~salmon~ on August 23, 2006, 03:05:59 PM

Bro...I could not DISagree with you more.  Seriously.  If it's "all drugs" help me understand why there are so many juice monkeys out there who look like absolute shit?  Ever heard of a guy named Mike Arvilla?

Bottom line TA, if in fact you've never dabbled with gear, you are in no position to espouse a credible opinion on the subject.

In other words, STFU and train ::)


I go by what I see and what others experience.  I don`t think my assessment is any less credible even though I have never used steroids.  That is like saying Bob Costa`s assessments of sports are totally off since he never played any.

The truth is that a PRO bodybuilder could in fact be a really shitty natural bodybuilder but respond well to drugs and the inverse is true, that a really good natural could be a shitty bodybuilder on drugs.

Take the drugs out of the equation and you see who the real bodybuilder is though.  Its simple.  Drugs fuck up everything.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2006, 03:20:54 PM »
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Bro...I could not DISagree with you more.  Seriously.  If it's "all drugs" help me understand why there are so many juice monkeys out there who look like absolute shit?  Ever heard of a guy named Mike Arvilla?

Bottom line TA, if in fact you've never dabbled with gear, you are in no position to espouse a credible opinion on the subject.

In other words, STFU and train
I myself have done a cycle and was amazed at how easily I attained size.  About 30lbs in 2 months.  So, I would agree, it's pretty much all drugs with most guys who are on.  Sure, there are plenty of people look like crap and on gear and who would look even worse natural.  Just cause you take gear, doesn't mean you'll look like a pro.  However, pretty much any pro wouldn't be one without gear.  Therefore, the "all drugs" comment still applies.
In short, STFU and train.
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #96 on: August 23, 2006, 03:26:57 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on August 23, 2006, 03:16:45 PM
I go by what I see and what others experience.  I don`t think my assessment is any less credible even though I have never used steroids.  That is like saying Bob Costa`s assessments of sports are totally off since he never played any.

The truth is that a PRO bodybuilder could in fact be a really shitty natural bodybuilder but respond well to drugs and the inverse is true, that a really good natural could be a shitty bodybuilder on drugs.

Take the drugs out of the equation and you see who the real bodybuilder is though.  Its simple.  Drugs f**k up everything.


First of all your Bob Costa Analogy is ridiculous.  You're commneting on something which requires intricate knowledge gained either through experience or factual data, neither of which you have.  Bob Costa can become a "sports expert" w/o playing the sport and offer credible commentary from a knowledgeable spectators point of view.

Second, you've just contradicted yourself.  First you say "all drugs", then you say "PRO bodybuilder could in fact be a really shitty natural bodybuilder but respond well to drugs and the inverse is true..." implying that it is not all drugs, but in fact genetic.  Which is it?

I'll tell you.  It's mostly genetics.  All the juice in the world will not make you a pro if you don't have the genetics to respond well to it.  

Every time you say "all drugs" it exposes you for the frustrated natty that you are, unable to make any significant improvements.  Get it over it ::)
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #97 on: August 23, 2006, 03:32:03 PM »
Quote from: Croatch on August 23, 2006, 03:20:54 PM
I myself have done a cycle and was amazed at how easily I attained size.  About 30lbs in 2 months.  So, I would agree, it's pretty much all drugs with most guys who are on.  Sure, there are plenty of people look like crap and on gear and who would look even worse natural.  Just cause you take gear, doesn't mean you'll look like a pro.  However, pretty much any pro wouldn't be one without gear.  Therefore, the "all drugs" comment still applies.
In short, STFU and train.

Hmmm...how many contradictions can we find in that post alone ::)  "all drugs" implies just that...all drugs and no training, dieting, supplements, resting, cardio, etc.  Most pros and top-level amatures train like animals.  They are not just using their asses as pin cushions and turning into 250 beasts.  Are there exceptions?  Of course (Hi Paul! Hi Flex!). 

By the way, congrats on your 30 lbs off one cycle ::)  I'll bet my left nut that you still looked nothing like a pro...
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2006, 03:37:32 PM »
Anyone notice how big Croatch's head is...He does have very "androgenic" Features...Croatch has said that he only has done one cycle..I'm calling bullshit on that one....I'd say more than 5 myself...

Also The True Adonis has used steriods as well
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Re: How often do you lie about your drug use?
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2006, 03:44:47 PM »
Quote from: Croatch on August 23, 2006, 03:20:54 PM

In short, STFU and train.

Hey Cro-magnon-atch, isn't that weedouttheweaks motto?
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