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Title: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Havenbull on August 25, 2006, 06:48:26 PM
Maybe you get some free radical damage (working out does the some thing)

Makes you stay awake longer (but you burn more calories)

Makes you more sociable (so does alcohol)

I can't find the negatives if used in moderation on rare ocassions with friends and acquaintences.

Your thoughts.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 25, 2006, 06:55:35 PM
Ask Toxy, he's the resident cokehead.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: sarcasm on August 25, 2006, 07:04:39 PM
Maybe you get some free radical damage (working out does the some thing)

Makes you stay awake longer (but you burn more calories)

Makes you more sociable (so does alcohol)

I can't find the negatives if used in moderation on rare ocassions with friends and acquaintences.

Your thoughts.
it ain't that big a deal once in a while it's just been blown totally out of proportion by mentally weak people who get addicted easy.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: body88 on August 25, 2006, 07:08:31 PM
Haha you guys do your coke "occasionally" and socially for the next year. A year from today please post how your life is doing after doing coke "only" on the weekend. I was a club gm for years. Coke is bad shit along with every other drug. If you can do it and not become addicted in anyway you are lucky and 99 percent of others are not so lucky!

Coke is way more addictive than getting drunk. Anyone who has ever done it knows no matter what they say this is a fact.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: haider on August 25, 2006, 07:14:52 PM
Haha you guys do your coke "occasionally" and socially for the next year. A year from today please post how your life is doing after doing coke "only" on the weekend. I was a club gm for years. Coke is bad shit along with every other drug. If you can do it and not become addicted in anyway you are lucky and 99 percent of others are not so lucky!

Coke is way more addictive than getting drunk. Anyone who has ever done it knows no matter what they say this is a fact.
[noob question] you mean mentally addictive right? Does it give a beter high or what?
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 25, 2006, 07:17:21 PM
pretty much anything IN MODERATION isnt too bad...

but how many people actually stay in moderation? ive been wanting to try coke for years but havent yet because i KNOW i will want it all the time...hell i wish i could 'unlearn' alcohol...cause now i want that escape all the time.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: body88 on August 25, 2006, 07:20:40 PM
[noob question] you mean mentally addictive right? Does it give a beter high or what?

Coke is more than mentally addictive. I have met many a coked out whore to attest to this. I do not give a shit how much research anyone provides. Coke is one of the best feelings you could ever have.You feel invincible. You feel light and quick, You become very sociable basically you just feel like a million bucks. Alot of girls get into coke for the feeling it gives them mentally. They are everything they wish they could be when sober when they are all coked out. Keeps em skinny. Makes them feel more secure etc etc. You feel like shit when you come down.  At least I did anyway.Some people can do coke all the time and lead normal lives. That is very very rare. How many times do you see a person who smokes cigs "only" when they drink? Then a month later they are puffing a pack a day. Same thing with yay except times it by 50000000. The feeling is just way to amazing to not crave.
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Post by: 240 is Back on August 25, 2006, 08:25:36 PM
hi Frozzor :)
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: suckmymuscle on August 25, 2006, 10:12:54 PM
Maybe you get some free radical damage (working out does the some thing)

Makes you stay awake longer (but you burn more calories)

Makes you more sociable (so does alcohol)

I can't find the negatives if used in moderation on rare ocassions with friends and acquaintences.

Your thoughts.

  "Cocaine" and "moderation" do not go together in the same sentence! Studies done with lab rats show that, when given free access to it, most will indulge in the drug 24/7 until they drop dead from starvation or exhaustion. And Humans who tried the drug tend to get hooked for like; they will take the drug continuously to the point where they will lose their jobs, wife, kids and become financially ruined, and they just don't give a damn! After going bankrupt and losing their entire lives to the drug, many of them will resort to gay prostitution for the money to continue doing the drug, giving guys blow-jobs for a few bucks. :o :-X

  While there are more potent stimulants than cocaine, with stronger sympathomimetic activity, such as methamphetamine, cocaine is unique in it's ability to induce habituation. It is a very potent indirect dopaminergic agonist: it's ability to block the dopamine transporter protein is second to none. With this mechanism blocked, this catecholaminergic monoamine neurotransmitter accumulates in the synaptic cleft, resulting in the hyper-stimulation of the DRD1 receptor, whih is related to the ability to experience pleasure. Intense feelings of exhilaration and euphoria follows, which are even stronger than those provided by the amphetamines, but far less edgy.

  My advice to you? Stay away from it. If you want to party, stick with MDMA, alcohol and nicotine. While the former acts primarilly upon serotonin, resulting in increased sociability and feelings of profound serene well-being, the latter two have dopaminergic effects as well. If you want to push it, you could do meth. It is far stronger and harsher than cocaine and the effects last for several hours instead of 40 minutes, but it usually generates a lower level of obsessive use among consumers than cocaine - but it's still highly addictive. Regards.  :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 25, 2006, 11:03:37 PM
Maybe you get some free radical damage (working out does the some thing)

Makes you stay awake longer (but you burn more calories)

Makes you more sociable (so does alcohol)

I can't find the negatives if used in moderation on rare ocassions with friends and acquaintences.

Your thoughts.
It may be true, in moderation... But how many are able contain their use to a moderate level?
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2006, 11:36:34 PM
Maybe you get some free radical damage (working out does the some thing)

Makes you stay awake longer (but you burn more calories)

Makes you more sociable (so does alcohol)

I can't find the negatives if used in moderation on rare ocassions with friends and acquaintences.

Your thoughts.

I think possession is a violation of state and federal law. 
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2006, 11:39:46 PM
   My advice to you? Stay away from it. If you want to party, stick with MDMA, alcohol and nicotine.

Isn't nicotine more addictive and much more dangerous than cocaine? 
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: headhuntersix on August 25, 2006, 11:56:32 PM
"Suck" ur telling him to choose Meth over Coke. Doesn't that crap bore holes in your head like X..geeeze if it were me i'd go with heroin :P
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 26, 2006, 01:07:46 AM
it ain't that big a deal once in a while it's just been blown totally out of proportion by mentally weak people who get addicted easy.

So you're an addict?
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Slin1 on August 26, 2006, 02:14:51 AM
I been doing it only on new years eve for a couple years so it's become a tradition now, it's great
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: jwb on August 26, 2006, 02:23:12 AM
I've never done coke and never want to because i saw what it did to a friend of mine but when i get my hands on some I KNOW i'm in for a great saturday night...

hot girls will do anything for that shit...
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Post by: Bigger Business on August 26, 2006, 03:43:39 AM
coke can sure make your life more exciting!
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: blinky on August 26, 2006, 04:03:31 AM
gotta agree with body and suckmymuscle.

i cant believe your actually asking if its bad for you  :-\  the stuff is horrid. stay the f*ck away from it.

ive worked in clubs off and on for 15 years and have seen what it does to people. seen people who never did it then thought they would "just try it". like someone else posted...take a look at them about a year later. they were a mess and f*cked up everytime i saw them. it will make you poor..make you lose your family and best of all good chance in it killing you (which i have seen too). seen otherwise healthy people have heart attacks at 35 years old.

i find it hard to have respect for people who do any kind of harcore drugs. if i find out someone i know does them i wash my hands of them. IMO it completely cheapens them.

my rant is done  :)
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: body88 on August 26, 2006, 07:33:58 AM
I am only 24 and some change years old. But like I posted I have been working in the nightlife for many years. I started as a bartender to make some money for college. Some of you guys know me, well know my posts and I was a gm of a few large clubs. I recently left. To be honest with you a big part of the was the drugs and the "scumbags" you have to deal with every day. I have been working a corporate job for a few weeks now and the difference is very noticeable. What I did before was alot of fun but there was alot of negatives to it also. Like blinky and suckmymuscle I have seen the effects of the social drugs. You see people see coke as a highclass way to have a good time. Glorified by movies and such. People are also heavily into g and meth. Or tina as it is called here. I have seen the most amazing looking women turn into money hoarding drug addicts. Lives literally down the tubes. Girls who go to Harvard who worked in my club as a bottle service waitress or dancer of some kind for extra money. They get introduced to the wrong people and before you know it they are blowing lines to be social. You take a look at them a year later and it is mind blowing how awful they look. I am not saying every single person who does coke is going to tune out this way. I am saying that a large percentage of them do. For gods sake don't ever go anywhere within 15 feet of meth. That is BAD  shit. Tina as it is called in the "scene" here is absolutely awful shit. You might as well smoke crack.

I Have done coke enough times in my life to understand the negative effects of the shit. If you enjoy doing it that is your deal and I wouldn't criticize anyone for it. But I hope none of you guys end up like some of the people I have seen over the years.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: pobrecito on August 26, 2006, 12:42:05 PM
Cocaine does not fall in the category of something that can be used in moderation.

A certain percentage of people DIE the first time they use cocaine.

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Post by: Camel Jockey on August 26, 2006, 04:10:45 PM
Why hasn't toxy weighed in with his opinion?  >:(
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Post by: OzmO on August 26, 2006, 04:27:39 PM
Because his digital scale broke
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 26, 2006, 04:51:31 PM
I gotta try coke, but it's expensive like $80 a gram and it's fucking cut up and very impure.

Oh well, I will be ordering some magical shroom spores soon!  8)
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: blinky on August 26, 2006, 05:26:26 PM
why do u gotta try it  ???   ::)
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Havenbull on August 26, 2006, 05:59:55 PM
Cocaine does not fall in the category of something that can be used in moderation.

A certain percentage of people DIE the first time they use cocaine.



The most silly thing I've ever read.

I should clarify that I used it on many ocassions for nearly 8 years.  No big deal.  The crash sucks.  But it's a party drug and I've never used it on a weekday or when I wasn't partying.

Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: body88 on August 26, 2006, 06:02:27 PM
You are one of the lucky ones. Most could never get away with living with it like that. Starts on the weekends. Then after work to get a pick me up. The after work every day. The during work.. etc etc
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 26, 2006, 07:24:07 PM
Starts on the weekends. Then after work to get a pick me up. The after work every day. The during work.. etc etc

Like alcohol is any different (for some).
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: body88 on August 27, 2006, 07:55:48 AM
Like alcohol is any different (for some).

No doubt that if abused Alchol is one of the worst addictions to have. Those old booze hounds you see are in bad shape.
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Post by: body88 on August 27, 2006, 03:27:18 PM
Stelle I have heard you where hot. There is only one other hot girl on this hole and it is Dina. I did not know if I believed you where hot but seeing your opinion on this subject proves it. Only good looking chicks know about coke!
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: body88 on August 27, 2006, 07:03:57 PM
  My jaw never popped or cracked.   Though depending it could be kind of sore from teeth clenching.   8)      I do believe you can do coke a few times a year with no problem though. 


     I would never do shrooms ever again. 

Flowers hot she knows about coke!
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Post by: Ex Coelis on August 27, 2006, 08:16:41 PM
drugs are like empty promises. They sound great but there's nothing good about them. They're unfullfilling and counter-productive. Try praying instead.

hormones don't count as drugs  ;)
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Playboy on August 28, 2006, 05:56:10 AM
Maybe you get some free radical damage (working out does the some thing)

Makes you stay awake longer (but you burn more calories)

Makes you more sociable (so does alcohol)

I can't find the negatives if used in moderation on rare ocassions with friends and acquaintences.

Your thoughts.
Does a bear shit in the woods??
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: Oldschool Flip on August 28, 2006, 06:46:07 AM
  My jaw never popped or cracked.   Though depending it could be kind of sore from teeth clenching.   8)      I do believe you can do coke a few times a year with no problem though. 


     I would never do shrooms ever again. 
You kill me! You'll do coke, but are against vaccines, that are more proven to help and not harm. Girl I love ya!
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: bmacsys on August 28, 2006, 09:46:02 AM
If you start doing coke on a regular basis its hard to keep from starting to snort whole eightballs within time.
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 28, 2006, 09:52:57 AM
Haha you guys do your coke "occasionally" and socially for the next year. A year from today please post how your life is doing after doing coke "only" on the weekend. I was a club gm for years. Coke is bad shit along with every other drug. If you can do it and not become addicted in anyway you are lucky and 99 percent of others are not so lucky!

Coke is way more addictive than getting drunk. Anyone who has ever done it knows no matter what they say this is a fact.

doing it off n on for a while..dosen't hurt me..it is addictive conditionally..ie you do seek out the same feeling and behaviour when on it..for me its sex

it WILL down regulare ones own dopamaine and seratonin production..over time..

but..my body..my choice..meh
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: deviant on August 28, 2006, 11:41:40 AM
Regular coke use will affect neurotransmitter levels leading to personality changes, sometimes depression etc... it is also extremely hard on the heart, i work in EMS and have personally taken an 18year old into the ER unconscious with a coke induced heart attack, it puts the coronary arteries into spasm....the heart of a regular user in his/her 30s is like that of somebody much older.

Having said that, the above side effects tend to appear in those who take things to excess....the addictive personalities that some people have mean they end up having problems whatever they get involved with whether its alcohol, drugs or gambling.

If you can keep a lid on your vices and only indulge occasionally then you wont have too many problems.
I speak as a veteran of the early 90s rave scene in the UK....they were some fierce times....i cannot begin to describe the copious ammounts of drugs i ingested but i always set myself rules and never broke them.

Drugs would only be taken at the weekend, never during the week when i was at work or college....on a night out i would take an ammount of cash from the ATM and then leave my card at home limiting me financially to how many pills or how many grams of speed and/or coke i could buy...every now and then i'd clean out and have a week off, not go out, spend some time at home with my parents and chill a bit....restraining myself like this meant i came through 5 years of awesome fun pretty much unscathed and with no addictions, in fact when i stopped raving i gave up the drugs that went hand in hand with that scene.

Now as i approach 30 with a good career and a mortgage to pay i still indulge myself on special occasions but with so much to lose i never let it get out of hand....its about discipline and sadly most people who get into bad times with drugs have very little of this.
Drugs arent bad, its the weak willed who become addicts that need weeding out of society so the rest of us can be trusted like adults to enjoy ourselves once in a while.
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Post by: blinky on August 28, 2006, 12:10:19 PM

She lost her marriage, her children and her freedom (for awhile) as she went to prison for distribution.  She gets $ from a trust fund but it runs out quickly and the last time she was arrested she called a friend of ours for bail money (which she denied her) and also money to pay for a tooth to be extracted (meth mouth).

Oh yeah, and she's not good-looking anymore.  :(


this just proves my point from the first post i made in here
Title: Re: Is cocaine bad for you if used in moderation, only on occasion.
Post by: ToxicAvenger on August 28, 2006, 12:35:08 PM
this just proves my point from the first post i made in here

take away the word coke and insert alcohol..and we have the same story about millions of men and women....

as i said..
meh