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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: fitnessman on September 08, 2006, 01:56:13 PM
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They are almost similar.
Mike mentzer who was a great bodybuilder , and if any disagree, just look at his pics
said for years the same things that True a and viking is now
you do not have to eat big to get big. mikes pre contest diet he ate around 12 to 1500 calories
per day and did a shit load of cardio
what many of you have to understand the diets and methods that pros use today to get ripped
are for one unhealthy and two pros are on so much drugs , well most of them. that they can get
eating those high calories
do any of you natural trainers honestly believe that eating the diet bob chick used for his masters
win, would get you lean ? fuck no you would be a fat fucking cow.
most diets promoted in magazines today are aimed at getting you to buy supplements.
and ask youreself this , add up all the money youve spent on protein powders, pro hormones, creatine
etc, over theyears and what have you gotten out of it ?
i believe that many people who workout , are under the impression that they have to be , huge beasts
but that is not the truth ,as long as you are lean youre gonna get them panties , and thats why we all
work out.
do any of you honestly want to look like the ifbb pros ? if so you should go to a psych doctor immediately
and seek help.
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Post of the year!
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You are correct...
Look at anyone who promotes the eat big to get big thing and that is Natural.
They look like total shit. They don`t realize that its all fat they have and not muscle.
I wish I learned that before I used to go on my eating tirades in a quest for muscle.
If you have trained a few years you will gain about 0-5 lbs of muscle in a year. No matter how much food you eat, you simply cannot rush it.
The quantity surely will not influence a muscle response. Look at everyone that advocates that. When they diet down, (IF THEY EVER), they will then realize that they were just fooling themselves.
Eating 300 lbs of Chicken in a year (about 350 plus grams of protein a day), for 48 ounces of muscle is just stupid and delusional.
A ton of people are interested in my method. It is simple,fun,enjoyable and bottom line it works and it works well. It would also work for ANYONE.
I would like to have a website for everyone who is trying my approach, however I would want all information to be free and everything associated with it to be free.
People should not have to pay for knowledge.
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do any of you natural trainers honestly believe that eating the diet bob chick used for his masters
win, would get you lean ? f**k no you would be a fat fucking cow. quote]
From what I saw, all he ate was oatmeal and chickenbreast for the most part.
How is that going to make you a "fat cow?"
You must have the metabolism of an 80 year old morbidly obese diabetic if you think oatmeal and chicken breasts will make you fat.
Although, I acknowledge that chick was most likely abusing every drug out there to get his fat ass into respectable condition so that he could be gifted win over Jeffers
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Damn.. i respect T. Adonis and appreciate his outlook on bodybuilding but how may dic sucking threads devoted to T.A. do we need?
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adonis , in mike mentzers nutrition program he said you would only had to eat maybe 100 calories per day
over maintenance to grow. why would anyone think eating 3 to 7 thousand calories per day is the right way
to go . heres an example look at lee priest every year he gets super fat. diets down , but he hasnt gotten
any bigger over the past six years.
also remember when bulking up the misery youre gonna have to endure to diet down and look good again.
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ether i think you missed it , he was eating tons of red meat etc
what good is eating a shit load of oatmeal
if you eat to many calories what good will oat meal do you ?
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They say he ate ice cream backstage before contests, so I was also thinking of this connection.
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do any of you natural trainers honestly believe that eating the diet bob chick used for his masters
win, would get you lean ? f**k no you would be a fat fucking cow. quote]
From what I saw, all he ate was oatmeal and chickenbreast for the most part.
How is that going to make you a "fat cow?"
You must have the metabolism of an 80 year old morbidly obese diabetic if you think oatmeal and chicken breasts will make you fat.
Although, I acknowledge that chick was most likely abusing every drug out there to get his fat ass into respectable condition so that he could be gifted win over Jeffers
Your body is going treat 5000 calories of Chicken Breast and Oatmeal the same as 5000 in Milk and Oreos.
Overeating is overeating...You will get equally fat.
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yeah menzter ate ice cream while training pre contest
he never ever once said hi protein diets were the way to go. mike said this back in the 70's
he said hi protein diets were invented by supplement companies to get you to buy there protein powders.
mike was huge. peopel forget he was immensley popular back then and many of his peers considered
him to be one of the best ever event hough he only competed two years.
even arnold s, said in his original encyclopedia for bodybuilding it is plain retarted to eat a shit load
of calories and bulk up , arnold didnt believe in this either.
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Your body is going treat 5000 calories of Chicken Breast and Oatmeal the same as 5000 in Milk and Oreos.
Overeating is overeating...You will get equally fat.
Patently untrue. But I don't know who I'm trying to convince, so I'll shut up now.
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Just think if magazines advocated the Truth.
Which is you can eat low calories and not worry about Protein intake.
How would any Protein Powder sell? How would the magazines survive?
The only reason they do is because of the ads.
Take the ads out and the magazines have nothing!
Not a thing. Theres not enough subscribers to even keep the Lights on at the Flex Headquarters.
So what do they do?
MORE PROTIEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU NEED 250 GRAMS...300 GRAMS....400 GRAMS!!!!!!!!
How do you get all this protein in? Simple. Powders. The more Protein that sells, the longer the magazines can break just above even.
Its really a sweet deal they have worked out.
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rearden youre absolutely right though . so many fallow the bullshit that these pros and gurus preach.
thats why most naturals look like shit after fallowing this advice
notice how theres a few guys on here who claim they weight 220 , 230, 240
but never post pics, cause they look like shit
look at the prose from the 70's arnold s , competed at 225, and was fucking huge.
frank zane below 200, mike m, in his first olympia weighed 190 and was huge.
you do not have to weight alot to look good
people just simply do not understand the pros today do so many drugs thats how they achieve the high
weight they are at. take them off there drugs most would be 200 and under.
but yo have these magazines, telling people oh yeah buy creatine, eat 6 to 8 meals per day take youre
shakes, take youre pro hormones.
and so many people get caught up in this bull shit . and poure there money down the sink
go to clarence bass's web site, that guy is in great shape, his views are similar as well.
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goddam adonis we think alike . ha ha ha
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your guys are acting like you found the cure for cancer or something, who the hell told you to eat that many calories a day to get big. If your not on steroids what were you thinking doing that. WIth a little common sense and trial and error you would have figured out long ago.
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your guys are acting like you found the cure for cancer or something, who the hell told you to eat that many calories a day to get big. If your not on steroids what were you thinking doing that. WIth a little common sense and trial and error you would have figured out long ago.
Look at 90 percent of the people on this site.
Fat as pigs with the mentality-"You need to eat more" "You need more muscle bro"
That is not good advice for a natural...There are ZERO Lifetime naturals 5`11 and under, ripped at 205 lbs. Nobody can name any,yet everyone claims they are walking around everywhere.
Just nonsense.
These people all have fun house mirrors and are delusional.
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adonis is right
i remember in one thread a member said, this
you can get ripped at eating 3000 calories per day .
any natural trainee will not get ripped eating that many per day unless they did about two to three hrs
of intense cardio per day .
in fact i worked with a guy a few years ago.
this is no bullshit
he started at a chubby 225, in two monthes he dieted down to 160 and won his show, he was natural
he wasnt eating 3000 calories per day more around 1500 and he worked his ass off.
now if you want to eat that much to get lean , you better go on alot of other shit.
the pros inject themselves with tons of shit to get lean, on top of that they pay criminals like milos
and kidney fryers like chad nichols to dry them out.
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goddam adonis we think alike . ha ha ha
Adonis, please stop writing back and forth to yourself from different accounts on the same thread.
If you think you have some kind of revolutionary idea, and want to market it, then put it up for sale. But, this begging for attention is getting lame, even for the shit heads who can't think for themselves.
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actually doison i am not adonis
i just share his views on training and diet thats all .
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double spacing rules eat shit and lift nugga
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Hey Adonis, I am getting interested in this calorie is a calorie approach. Just out of curiousity, do you think 2000 calories worth of beer would be the same as 2000 from chicken and oatmeal.
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yes tweeter plus you will be pissing alot eliminating water weight try it bro .
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Look at 90 percent of the people on this site.
Fat as pigs with the mentality-"You need to eat more" "You need more muscle bro"
That is not good advice for a natural...There are ZERO Lifetime naturals 5`11 and under, ripped at 205 lbs. Nobody can name any,yet everyone claims they are walking around everywhere.
Just nonsense.
These people all have fun house mirrors and are delusional.
monster honesty.
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yes tweeter plus you will be pissing alot eliminating water weight try it bro .
seriously though would a meal of say 6 light beers be permissible under the Adonis Principled
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Why can't you write normal ?
Why so much space between the letters ?
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seriously though would a meal of say 6 light beers be permissible under the Adonis Principled
Yes!
As long as you know your calorie range!
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The alcohol in beer has negative effects in it self for bodybuilding goals , but other than that it is a good carb source, vitamin B and minerals. I just happened to be one of those guys that downright love plain rice cakes and brown rice... I guess I'm the one on a bad diet :-\
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When dieting for the Olympia,
It was common for Frank Zane to buy a bottle of wine and drink it throughout the day.
By the end of the day, the bottle was gone.
Franco Columbu also advocated beer pre-contest.
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I would like to have a website for everyone who is trying my approach, however I would want all information to be free and everything associated with it to be free.
People should not have to pay for knowledge.
what's stopping you?
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what's stopping you?
I don`t know anything about Web-Design.
If someone wants to help, I will do it.
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The alcohol in beer has negative effects in it self for bodybuilding goals , but other than that it is a good carb source, vitamin B and minerals. I just happened to be one of those guys that downright love plain rice cakes and brown rice... I guess I'm the one on a bad diet :-\
Alcohol is pure sugar and consuming pure sugar as your only dietary intake is inviting diabetes and a host of other problems to yourself.
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Alcohol is pure sugar and consuming pure sugar as your only dietary intake is inviting diabetes and a host of other problems to yourself.
Diabetes will NEVER occur when you are in a caloric defecit.
Sorry to break it to you.
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Diabetes will NEVER occur when you are in a caloric defecit.
Sorry to break it to you.
Bullshit...I used to work with a guy who ate like a bird and had a low bodyfat level, but he drank every night. When he hit about 35 he started losing what fat he did have and ended up in the hospital and was diagnosed with diabetes. So don't post irresponsible bullshit that can ultimately hurt someone.
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Bullshit...I used to work with a guy who ate like a bird and had a low bodyfat level, but he drank every night. When he hit about 35 he started losing what fat he did have and ended up in the hospital and was diagnosed with diabetes. So don't post irresponsible bullshit that can ultimately hurt someone.
If he had fat to lose, he was Overweight.
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When I dieted for my first show, i did all protein, low calories..I dried down to 170...by the time i competed in my 4th and last show, I ate moderately more, and had very low carbs, i looked fantastic, and placed 3rd at 180...
I have to admit, I didnt take in THAT much protein, and I ate very little.... i was in the best shape of my life..
Then after that, I ate everything, blew up to 250lb. And here I am now, on the way down stuck right now at 213..
You just have to stay lean in the offseason, eat clean year around.
No "bulking up crap" its more like "fattening up", because as a natty your only gonna put on 3-5 lbs a year of good muscle...so your just making more work for yourself in the spring time trying to get your abs out.
im happy, were going into fall/winter and i have all winter to get lean and be ready for spring summer.
My goal is to do 2-3 shows next summer.. 8)
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When I dieted for my first show, i did all protein, low calories..I dried down to 170...by the time i competed in my 4th and last show, I ate moderately more, and had very low carbs, i looked fantastic, and placed 3rd at 180...
I have to admit, I didnt take in THAT much protein, and I ate very little.... i was in the best shape of my life..
Then after that, I ate everything, blew up to 250lb. And here I am now, on the way down stuck right now at 213..
You just have to stay lean in the offseason, eat clean year around.
No "bulking up crap" its more like "fattening up", because as a natty your only gonna put on 3-5 lbs a year of good muscle...so your just making more work for yourself in the spring time trying to get your abs out.
im happy, were going into fall/winter and i have all winter to get lean and be ready for spring summer.
My goal is to do 2-3 shows next summer.. 8)
No such thing as eating clean.
Eat what you want just low enough for a defecit.
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drinking beer would be silly, 1-2 beers aren't going to hurt but 6 is just plain silly, it has no nutrional value
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Diabetes will NEVER occur when you are in a caloric defecit.
This has to be the most ignorant statement ever posted here.