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Name some bodybuiulder who you think would look the worst without drugs and guess there weight. ;D
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Name some bodybuiulder who you think would look the worst without drugs and guess there weight. ;D
whatever their weight is I know they won't measure 0,0% BF on a caliper test. But who knows, things might be different this millenium. It's not like the last one when they actually meant something. Never forget 93 people.
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Gustavo to me is all drugs has that all drug look, Jay too...Dennis is on the list...I can't imagine what Ruhl would look like without the sauce but my guess is that he would probably have the biggest muscle loss just because of the size he holds...King also would be high on that list...
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hmmmm........
Well I believe, however I don't see how he could look any worse, Kenny Jones would be # 1.
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Gustavo to me is all drugs has that all drug look, Jay too...Dennis is on the list...I can't imagine what Ruhl would look like without the sauce but my guess is that he would probably have the biggest muscle loss just because of the size he holds...King also would be high on that list...
I know this is basically coming out of left field and you wouldn't expect it from me, and another disclaimer which I will later add when I modify this post for posterity's sake, BUT what do you think of 93 Flex Wheeler was his 0.0% BF readin all DRUGS?
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All drugs? I love the guy but Kev blew up tons on da sauce...
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All drugs? I love the guy but Kev blew up tons on da sauce...
what does this have to do with Flex? Oh I guess they probably shared drugs sometimes and that means using the same needle, Flex probably went first because when he uses the needle he doesn't grease it up with nasty BF at least not back in 93 when he had no, that's righ 0.0%, BF
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what does this have to do with Flex? Oh I guess they probably shared drugs sometimes and that means using the same needle, Flex probably went first because when he uses the needle he doesn't grease it up with nasty BF at least not back in 93 when he had no, that's righ 0.0%, BF
Flex ain't the only BB around...what's yer point?
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All drugs? I love the guy but Kev blew up tons on da sauce...
yup your right on that one....I forgot about kevin and the fact that he was one of of the few that actually put on weight for a show...
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Flex ain't the only BB around...what's yer point?
i believe shifted shape is trying to get back at Ron...Shifted has been on a roll all night with the flex caliper thingy...
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I would also have to throw Palumbo himself in the mix...I can't imagine what he would look like without the beano...
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Pros would just look like your typical dedicated gym rats without juice. Not guys like Tom Prince and the others who probably didn't even workout, but the ones who actually go to the gym and eat lots would still look ok without gear, but only at 190 in condition rather than 230 or 250 or whatever their juiced contest weight is. The difference is all gear.
Agreed.
Most of todays pros had good bodies and good genetics long before ever touching a piece of gym equipment. The addition of drugs puts these above average guys into their own cult of muscle bound cartoon characters as opposed to be highly buffed gay models.
-keep it real-
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that during the telecast of the 93' O Jim Quinn reported that in the days leading up to the contest Billy Smith gave Flex Wheeler a skin caliper test at Golds Gym and he measured 0.0% BF, the lowest reading ever recorded at that time.
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that during the telecast of the 93' O Jim Quinn reported that in the days leading up to the contest Billy Smith gave Flex Wheeler a skin caliper test at Golds Gym and he measured 0.0% BF, the lowest reading ever recorded at that time.
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Gustavo to me is all drugs has that all drug look, Jay too...Dennis is on the list...I can't imagine what Ruhl would look like without the sauce but my guess is that he would probably have the biggest muscle loss just because of the size he holds...King also would be high on that list...
Probably Ruhl would be one of the BB that could retain more muscle. I've seen his video, "Ruhl-Made in Germany" and when he was 19 and 20 years old he already had a very good pack, around 105kg! He trains heavy and very intensive, his muscle is stronger and thicker, most BB donīt train heavy, so their loss would probablu be bigger. We have a good example: Levrone. The guy only trained 6 months a year, nevertheless he had grat size and shape. See him now, looks like a 85 kg guy! Franco columbo has bigger arms, it was all juice!!! Those who go heavier and sacrifice the most at the gym would still be bigger than the others, my opinion!!
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Probably Shahriar kamali, considering he looks already
bad using drugs...
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the obvious choice would be Phil Heath. A basketball player that found a steroids dealer on campus...the rest is history
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Name some bodybuiulder who you think would look the worst without drugs and guess there weight. ;D
All of them. Never underestimate the power of AAS.
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I know this is basically coming out of left field and you wouldn't expect it from me, and another disclaimer which I will later add when I modify this post for posterity's sake, BUT what do you think of 93 Flex Wheeler was his 0.0% BF readin all DRUGS?
OK, not remotely funny anymore.
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I think the main thing about "genetics" is a good natural structure. That is something where you really do see a lot of variation from person to person. Somebody on mayhem said that they were impressed with Tom Prince's forearms and he replied by saying he doesn't do any direct training for them. ::) Wow...what a surprise. Then some mayhem stooge came on and said that Tom's forearms probably grew by gripping the handle of the lat pulldown bar. Yeah - with the massive amounts of drugs Tom was on, that statement was probably accurate.
Mayhem guys can be really funny at times.
Truth be told the size of Tom Prince 's forearms are a direct result of him pulling the root from an early age. Even now off the drugs his forearms are still big...why? Still pulling the root...and not his own mind you.
-keep it real-
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Mayhem guys can be really funny at times.
Truth be told the size of Tom Prince 's forearms are a direct result of him pulling the root from an early age. Even now off the drugs his forearms are still big...why? Still pulling the root...and not his own mind you.
-keep it real-
Why do you have to hide behind a bad analogy, why can't you just come out and say what you are implying. What are you afraid of ? Who's in the closet now?
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Why do you have to hide behind a bad analogy, why can't you just come out and say what you are implying. What are you afraid of ? Who's in the closet now?
Not hiding from anything. I only keep it real but in trying to do so comes the deleting powers of mainly our good freinds my SR and BC. So in that sense if I want to be heard I need to play on words. get it??
I have been deleted here more times than my total post count.
-keep it real-
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Come on!
Phil Heath - NCAA D1 backup guard
Ronnie Coleman - SWAC starting LB under Eddie Robinson
Shawn Ray - 1st Team All-District RB
Flex Wheeler - Excel in MAs
These guys would win natural shows...or would find away to win in other arenas. Now... I cant comment on Prince and some others out there who dont have athletic backgrounds.
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Dennis James...Gustavo Badell...captain "GUT" himself Dave Palumbo...I actually think things like slin and gh have made King Tamali way worse than any of these other guys. plus he has a bad attitude...
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Question is can they transition and modyfy their training,eating,recovery,and be patient without it.they are on another level of training,development to begin with.you wouldn't see them clean anyway cause they are either not competing or out of the scene.the one's you see even if not competing are using less or haven't given it up even in competitive retirement.good case is labrada still fit ,havent's seen him in his ads though other than his pro size on his labels.that's a little misleading.
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I'll say it for Shawn....
TAMALI!!!!!!!!!!
...off the needle he would come in at a smokin' 175 or so... ;D ;D ;D
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My friend has gained one pound a day since Friday off 30mg a day of British Dragon dbol. One pound a day! I don't care if it's nothing but water, it REALLY shows the power of hormones and their effect on body weight.
Pros would look like me off drugs and I look like nothing. Bodybuilding as we know it IS drugs. But for those who train hard and eat well like me, I can respect them, even if they do have a great advantage over me.
Again...some pros would excel without drugs. Already gave a couple of examples. Most of the guys on this board didnt play Div I ball or make any All-State teams with records before compound use.
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Again...some pros would excel without drugs. Already gave a couple of examples. Most of the guys on this board didnt play Div I ball or make any All-State teams with records before compound use.
are you assuming that hormones where not used at all in Div I sports at any extent...I mean i guess we will never know about the guys you listed using small amounts but over the past 20 years, Div I college ball has been a haven for hormone use. Even if its only 1/2 gram a week to a gram...
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are you assuming that hormones where not used at all in Div I sports at any extent...I mean i guess we will never know about the guys you listed using small amounts but over the past 20 years, Div I college ball has been a haven for hormone use. Even if its only 1/2 gram a week to a gram...
Ok. You are saying Shawn was on compounds when he was a Jr and Sr in HS before John Brown and bbing. His records were based on pure ability. Have you ever played sports? Didnt say there wasnt drug use in college. I played ball in Louisiana during the Marshall Faulk era. Guy had pure speed, no drugs added. His talent got him to San Diego State. The same goes for Ronnie and Phil. Dont know and dont have a clue wha t happen once they hit the campus.
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OK, not remotely funny anymore.
agreed.
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Name some bodybuiulder who you think would look the worst without drugs and guess there weight. ;D
Lou Ferrigno and Katz
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naa matt c is right
take most pros off drugs they would be 200 or less
its very hard to get over 200 lbs of solid muscle without drugs i know its hard for you guys to accept
but its true, our super hero pros are mere mortals without the shit load of drugs they take for years
on end.
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