When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift. ???
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.
Do you still bench 375 at a BW below 170?
Relatively speaking I do morewhat the hell is that supposed to mean? You either lift more or less relative to the weights you once used to lift.
:)
Its called fat does nothing for you.Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.
I am as strong as I ever was 70 lbs lighter.
Remember I was deadlifting 600 at one point. :)
Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.
Can you deadlift 600 at your current bodyweight
It pisses me off this little gym rat does 4 plates per side for reps benchpress.i Have asked him if he was juicing he just laughed and said no.
I am fucking perplexed,There must be some physiological explanation?Tendon strength.
This gym rat keeps me up at night with his lifts that i can only exceed with the darkside of the force.
When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift. ???
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.
When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine
it's because you're weak. 80lbs dumbbells for shoulders at 280lbs :-\I concetrate on contraction and reps i could do 120s as i have in the past but only feel distinct pain in my joints the next morning,the darkside of the force i have military pressesd 3 and half plates and the healing propertys of the juice are incredible.
According to your physics statement, one should then be able to optimize the body usage for each movement in order to maximize the force exerted on the weight.
So, answer this, how do one calculate and find the optimal way of performing a certain exercise? (if we account to the fact that it's not easy to find the most suitable liftingposition by a one time experimentation, since other more counterproductive ways of performing an exercise over time will still perform better than using the optimal body usage for the first time).
You seem to know a lot about physics, do you got any interesting theories regarding this subject? Is there some general guidelines to follow?
Bump for lack of responsebump for tremendous sarcasm
According to your physics statement, one should then be able to optimize the body usage for each movement in order to maximize the force exerted on the weight.
So, answer this, how do one calculate and find the optimal way of performing a certain exercise? (if we account to the fact that it's not easy to find the most suitable liftingposition by a one time experimentation, since other more counterproductive ways of performing an exercise over time will still perform better than using the optimal body usage for the first time).
You seem to know a lot about physics, do you got any interesting theories regarding this subject? Is there some general guidelines to follow?
Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.
Can you deadlift 600 at your current bodyweight
It pisses me off this little gym rat does 4 plates per side for reps benchpress.i Have asked him if he was juicing he just laughed and said no.
I am fucking perplexed,There must be some physiological explanation?Tendon strength.
This gym rat keeps me up at night with his lifts that i can only exceed with the darkside of the force.
wait a minute, something is not right here
you said that he was 5'6 and 150lbs correct?
also he is doing 4 plates for reps?
doesn't seem right naturally
why not? that would mean the guy is ONLY benching three times bodyweight for reps, I mean, honestly, I am sure he really can, I mean, every gym has somebody that does suchlike?
surely?
ofcourse, you are right...he is the chosen onewhy not? that would mean the guy is ONLY benching three times bodyweight for reps, I mean, honestly, I am sure he really can, I mean, every gym has somebody that does suchlike?
surely?
When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift. ???
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.
Lots of "small" guys are strong as hell. The guy in this photo can bench 525 without equipment. :o
dude, you do realise we are talking aboutan obviously bullshit laden crock of shitea three times BW claim here?
::)
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/2880
sometimes these guy don't get the humor in playing alongdude, you do realise we are talking aboutan obviously bullshit laden crock of shitea three times BW claim here?
405 isn't three times bodyweight for a 150 lb guy, you dipshit. That would be 450 lb. Try to learn basic arithmetic before questioning my intelligence, DIPSHIT.You spastic, we are talking about Hendrix's claims in his OP, you numbfuck
Of course three times BW lifts happen, they are something special that you dont see every day, hence my above posts
Jesus, no wondernigh on every fucker hereSarcasm hates you
You fucking clown toolbag
405 isn't three times bodyweight for a 150 lb guy, you dipshit. That would be 450 lb. Try to learn basic arithmetic before questioning my intelligence, DIPSHIT.
It's not like Hendrix weighed the guy either. He's probably underestimating how heavy this guy is.
Go watch some more tranny porn, you sick little faggot.
Wehave 3 guys at Gold's Gym who 3 times there bodyweight. One of them broke the World Record at my meet on 2003 Doug Ortiz. He weighed something like 141 and bench 430+. Those numbers aren't exact but close. Julian Lee at 198 benched 611 back in the late 80's or early 90's. And the other guy I never met or know. I was told 3 guys here and I know 2 of them. Actually it might be Francis Silva. I know he did 600 at around 200 or so.dude, you do realise we are talking aboutan obviously bullshit laden crock of shitea three times BW claim here?
wait a minute, something is not right hereI am as perplexed as you on are this one, Hes a Mini Me Lee priest.I will try to educate this kid that he has enormous Powerlifting potential and try to get him to enter a powerlifting meet.I am a pretty good guage of weight no more than 160 soaking wet.
you said that he was 5'6 and 150lbs correct?
also he is doing 4 plates for reps?
doesn't seem right naturally
Wehave 3 guys at Gold's Gym who 3 times there bodyweight. One of them broke the World Record at my meet on 2003 Doug Ortiz. He weighed something like 141 and bench 430+. Those numbers aren't exact but close. Julian Lee at 198 benched 611 back in the late 80's or early 90's. And the other guy I never met or know. I was told 3 guys here and I know 2 of them. Actually it might be Francis Silva. I know he did 600 at around 200 or so.
No it s defitely not your typical gym. But either are the 24 Hour Fitness's here. Allot of strong guys train at them here. As I have said all along, I have maybe trained in 200+ gyms since 1973, and nowhere have I found more strong guys in oneplace than here in Hawaii. I can bet the Gold's here on Oahu or even Kona has more 400+ benchers than any other gym in country. I bet we have at this small gym here at least 30 guys who can bench 400+.Yes but Keith, your Golds Gym is hardly an average backstreet gym now is it?
I think you just made my point for me mate
:)
When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift. ???
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.
Lots of "small" guys are strong as hell. The guy in this photo can bench 525 without equipment. :o
When i train Natural i am not too strong ,Im 280 at 6ft 38 inch waist and was using 80 pound dumbells for my shoulder routine, but what blows my mind is this guy no taller than 5,6 150 at most outlifts me in every exerecise and machine lift. ???
Is it Tendon strenght or some physiolgy attribute,I,m blown away by his strength and endurance, i asked him if he was on the juice and he just laughed "no"
I am perplexed.
My question is related to moving a maximal load in the most efficient manner. In other words, how can one use physics to calculate the optimal usage of the body to excel in powerlifting?
Leverage has a lot more to do with strength than size has
If the equations become complex, even better. Then I can learn some academics from it as well.
was he looking for center of mass or was he looking as to how you would use a physics equation to best set yourself up mechanically to lift the most? I guess I didn't understand what he was looking for if it was center of gravity....
was he looking for center of mass or was he looking as to how you would use a physics equation to best set yourself up mechanically to lift the most? I guess I didn't understand what he was looking for if it was center of gravity....
Center Mass has a direct correlation regarding a maximal lift. Finding the center mass in a certain position will enable one to lift maximally,while gravity is a constant, center mass will dictate a lower or higher center of gravity making a load movement more effecient.
The beauty of bodybuilding is that, none of this shit matters, like you said Natural AL.
It's called the square-cube law, and it was first noticed by Galileo. To sum up...
If I doubled in size, my absolute strength would increase by a factor of 4 (not 2) but my volume would increase by a factor of 8. Thus, I would be 4 times stronger, but only half as strong as I was before, relative to my weight (it was one to one before but now it is four to eight). This is why an elephant can't carry another elephant on its back, but you could carry your girlfriend on your back, and an ant could carry 50 of his pals on his back.
Likewise, if you shrink something, it becomes weaker and weaker absolutely, but stronger and stronger relative to its own size. This is why ants and other insects and little powerlifters are so strong, for their size. It's also why you can drop a toy truck from 100 feet and nothing happens to it, but a real truck would get destroyed. It's also what limits the size of living things, from cells to bluewhales to dinosaurs.
In fact, a human the size of an ant would be about 3 times stronger than an ant, assuming it could survive at that size (it can't, too many physiological reasons to list, but tiny and large animals have extremely different biologies for a reason).
Now this is why DC trainers are under the impression that they are making muscle gains.
They are getting fatter,changing their fulcrum points and centers of gravity with the added fat,which will allow them to lift more weight, and in turn seeing the gravitational pull on their increasing "mass from stored energy", they confuse it as a muscle gain.
It is not classified as a strength gain pe se` because when losing the fat, you lose mass which will then change the fulcrum points and center of gravity once again.
why would you even start this again? First if someone is training in a true DC manner and has any common sense they would realize if they were strictly gaining fat, it's not that hard to see. Second you discount so many aspect of the system in your argurements it's not even funny. If you would like to have an intellegent conversation as to why I don't believe you will be gaining strictly fat on this program I'll be glad to but there's more to it than you make it out to be and you know it. DC recommends doing cardio for fat control, if your getting fat doing what your doing you can control it by a number of ways. If your a sloth and don't bother to do what is recommended then you will add fat but I bet your gonna add a ton of muscle too.
It's called the square-cube law, and it was first noticed by Galileo. To sum up...
If I doubled in size, my absolute strength would increase by a factor of 4 (not 2) but my volume would increase by a factor of 8. Thus, I would be 4 times stronger, but only half as strong as I was before, relative to my weight (it was one to one before but now it is four to eight). This is why an elephant can't carry another elephant on its back, but you could carry your girlfriend on your back, and an ant could carry 50 of his pals on his back.
Likewise, if you shrink something, it becomes weaker and weaker absolutely, but stronger and stronger relative to its own size. This is why ants and other insects and little powerlifters are so strong, for their size. It's also why you can drop a toy truck from 100 feet and nothing happens to it, but a real truck would get destroyed. It's also what limits the size of living things, from cells to bluewhales to dinosaurs.
In fact, a human the size of an ant would be about 3 times stronger than an ant, assuming it could survive at that size (it can't, too many physiological reasons to list, but tiny and large animals have extremely different biologies for a reason).
Actually my optium weight is 225 at 10% or below but in strenght wise that extra size is not all fat but added muscle, when i train natural i bulk to the point of setting a good foudation of strength for when i turn to the darkside.By the size you are telling, your "strong" friend must be master YODA!!!! "The dark side leave you must. With mr train you should"! Some day he will tell you that, don't worry!!!
Can you deadlift 600 at your current bodyweight
It pisses me off this little gym rat does 4 plates per side for reps benchpress.i Have asked him if he was juicing he just laughed and said no.
I am fucking perplexed,There must be some physiological explanation?Tendon strength.
This gym rat keeps me up at night with his lifts that i can only exceed with the darkside of the force.
Exactly why I am stronger now, than When I was eating Chicken Breast and Oats at 70 lbs overweight.
When humans get technology advanced enough to breed in a Zero-G environment (unless they make a spacestation which emulates gravity through some kind of centrifugal movement perhaps) they would probably also be able to do some genetical manipulation of themselves to adapt to the new environment ;)
There are still a number of things to work out first. Bone density diminishes quickly in space. Gravity could be simulated though, by spinning the craft, as in 2001.
Yep, spinning the craft = centrifugal mechanism.
Not only bone density, but also the stuff that produces red bloodcells also diminishes from what I've heard.(damn, can't remember the english word for it ;D )
If you really did that, it would be a great experiment. The question is if the human genetical programming has limits regarding adaption to extraordinarily high G forces. You might adapt, or you'll just become fatigued.
What about designing it with some sort of micro hydrolic devices with adjustable strength, or changeable rubberbands? Both could yield increased resistance, although it would be one hell of an engineering feat to pull it off :)
HAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D ;D
Keep us updated on the Gravity suit project, whatever the result will be, it's interesting, challenging and intellectually stimulating. Engineering type academics can sometimes seem abstract, but when one start using it to create something, it's fun as hell!
::)
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/2880
No it s defitely not your typical gym. But either are the 24 Hour Fitness's here. Allot of strong guys train at them here. As I have said all along, I have maybe trained in 200+ gyms since 1973, and nowhere have I found more strong guys in oneplace than here in Hawaii. I can bet the Gold's here on Oahu or even Kona has more 400+ benchers than any other gym in country. I bet we have at this small gym here at least 30 guys who can bench 400+.
This has been one of the more interesting threads in a while. Thanks guys.
Something that I have been wanting to try is to build a weight suit that covers the entire body with weight, In fact, mimicking the effect of an increased gravity. Muscles and tendons would be forced to adapt. Making it ambulatory and feasible with a given adjustable increasing resistance is difficult though.
This already exists. It's called Fat. Just gain a ton of weight and wear a football helmet. It's why fat people are strong at static lifts like the bench but suck at anything that also requires them to move their lardasses at the same time, like a vertical jump.
Thats not enough weight and it is not applied adequately in the right places.
Plus fat takes a while to strip off, whereas a Muscle suit you could take on and off in an instant.
THey do make weght vests for athletes, but I wouldn't recommend them unless, ironically, you're already so fit you can barely benefit from one anyway, since you can kill your joints wearing them.
The stress I think is due to the unequal placement which causes an imbalance of force upon the body.
The weight has to be equally distributed and correct points so that the chance of injury will be statistically lower.
I may never have to leave my computer chair for Mr. Getbig 2007.
may I congratulate you on trying to point out something that was not there? I looked waaaay to far ahead......I was thinking how would someone figure out the best mechanical positioning to perform a certain movement and how complicated the actual equation would be which I think has been proved by all the posts above, plus your not even factoring Kinseology into it at this point....when you get down to it I never even said I really knew alot about physics, I've taken 2 classes but the classes that I took were a little to geeky for me, I've never used anything I learned at work in those classes and I'm an engineer...what do you do? Arent' you sitting in prison or something?TA, may I congratulate you on your nonchalant sidestepping of Natural Als hamfisted attempt to spike you
Deft, most deft
:)
may I congratulate you on trying to point out something that was not there? I looked waaaay to far ahead......
You really can be a first class prick ya'know that? Really, what do you add to the board besides being an asshole?
no, I don't think so....aren't you rotting away in prison? I could get out my physics book and start copying equations down too...but I'm working.Aw, raw nerve dookums?
LOL, cheers for picking up on my ickle post, and thusly giving your game away
TA has fucking destroyed you here, you knew all too well that he would, hence your attempt at a decidedly 'subtle' spiking of TA, a subtle approach that reveals nothing other than your complete lack of belief in your abilities
you are pathetic, a tiny tits par excellance
Now get back in your box, you ham fisted, foolish cuntbox
no, I don't think so....aren't you rotting away in prison? I could get out my physics book and start copying equations down too...but I'm working.
You're pathetic...but it really doesn't matter you'll be banned again in about 2 weeks so in the meantime f**k off and die, and while your banned f**k off and die....
you're a worthless piece of shit...nothing more than a toadie and a lapdog for TA, must be fun having to rim him on a daily basis you freakin tranny loving homo......
you're dellusional, first I never ever said I knew the equations, second you haven't added shit. You've probably never even taken a physics class....you talk like you know so much but you don't know jack shit....Hahahahahaha, and so there it is, in its full glory
God I'm good, you sad little fruit
Several pages with no result, what a shit effort on your part, lol, lamer
you're dellusional, first I never ever said I knew the equations, second you haven't added shit. You've probably never even taken a physics class....you talk like you know so much but you don't know jack shit....
What do you do for a living???
You're entire existance has been a shit effort hahahahahahahahahahahaha ...must be nice having to reregister here every few months cause you get your worthless ass banned every few weeks.
YOu suck.
not quite, just telling the truth, fact of the matter is I could probably get you banned right now, I know your throwing your rascist shit around here already......meltdown
not quite, just telling the truth, fact of the matter is I could probably get you banned right now, I know your throwing your rascist shit around here already......
must suck to sit in time out for months at a time with nothing else to do, doesn't it jailbird?
when did I attempt to hang him out to dry? You're a complete idiot, no sense at all. No eratic typing, don't know what your talking about, I'm busy doing other things not sitting in prison like you with nothing else to do.so, what have we thus far? a none too subtle attempted ensnarement, a barage of crazy none too focused insults, eratic typing, all hallmarks of the low calibre fuckwit
LOL, I bet you are sitting there, sat in piss, chewing your nails, hating moi.. king woten, the majestic figure that has blown apart your attempt to hang TA out to dry, you snidy little shitbag
You are on thin ice, sonny
when did I attempt to hang him out to dry? You're a complete idiot, no sense at all. No eratic typing, don't know what your talking about, I'm busy doing other things not sitting in prison like you with nothing else to do.
I'm on thin ice? c'mon, you gotta be kidding me. From you? C'mon, you got nothing but moronic posts and a few little buddies on here....maybe this weekend I'll go through your posts and send a few of them to Ron and see if I can get your sorry ass kicked off for a few more weeks...mabye not, who knows? It's not like your little pussy ass means anything to me....you're a guy with nothing to do but sit in his cell and rip on people, must be nice.
Piece of trash.
epic inmate with nothing better to do with his life. Go check out some trannies, piece of trash.epic self ownage
epic inmate with nothing better to do with his life. Go check out some trannies, piece of trash.
nope not going anywhere until 4 o'clock...nothing wrong with a hot tranny
Now, shouldnt you be running along to yaroni? you inadequate scumbag
nope not going anywhere until 4 o'clock...
shouldn't you be getting ready for "chowtime"? Then off to the community shower for you....nice life...and you say I'm inadequate, what have you contributed to society? zip. That's what, now go make your bed before a guard kicks your ass.
awwww, what's a matter woten, you melting down over there.Be your own fuckin man for God's sake, not a sheep
TA, shepards cocksockets like you on a daily basis
You are not, and will never amount to anything, you are too busy trying to pull down the achievements of those with talent
Sad little clown
Exemplary Articulation Demonstrated by a Full Crescendo of Heightened Reverie. Ahhh, such Sweet,Symphonic Bliss emanates from this melody. If Wagner`s Ride of the Valkyries was broken into word format, Woten`s posts would be the literary equivalent.so, what have we thus far? a none too subtle attempted ensnarement, a barage of crazy none too focused insults, eratic typing, all hallmarks of the low calibre fuckwit
LOL, I bet you are sitting there, sat in piss, chewing your nails, hating moi.. king woten, the majestic figure that has blown apart your attempt to hang TA out to dry, you snidy little shitbag
You are on thin ice, sonny
Exemplary Articulation Demonstrated by a Full Crescendo of Heightened Reverie. Ahhh, such Sweet,Symphonic Bliss emanates from this melody. If Wagner`s Ride of the Valkyries was broken into word format, Woten`s posts would be the literary equivalent.
woten, I'll go out on a limb and say I've accomplished more in the last 5 years of my life than you have in yours. What do you do for a living? Oh, that's right..inmate. I work as have a nice desk job. Whrere's your house? Oh, that's right you live in a cell. I live in a nice house and own two cars. Now go make my next liscense plate, loser.Be your own fuckin man for God's sake, not a sheep
TA, shepards cocksockets like you on a daily basis
You are not, and will never amount to anything, you are too busy trying to pull down the achievements of those with talent
Sad little clown
he's still a lapdog...nothing againts you, must be nice having these drones at your beck and call. It's just a shame to thinkk that grown men let another dude lead them around by a leash. Pathetic.
woten, I'll go out on a limb and say I've accomplished more in the last 5 years of my life than you have in yours. What do you do for a living? Oh, that's right..inmate. I work as have a nice desk job. Whrere's your house? Oh, that's right you live in a cell. I live in a nice house and own two cars. Now go make my next liscense plate, loser.
Lord Byron and William Blake are smiling in amazment. Woten, can I have it on good oath, that if unforseen and unfortunate circumstances befall you and such that, you expire pre-maturely from your lush, baronic empire in Southern England, would it be a dis-service to have your remains glorified in greatness and with the dignity you so dearly deserve by being placed,albeit , where they surely belong in The Poets' Corner" of the famous Père Lachaise.Jesus, still attempting to claw some dignity out of your current position eh? you are pathetic
As has been established, you have everything against TA, everything. Your little scam was revealed for the snidy poorly planned affair that it was, you, sonny jim, were caught wanking in the pantry at 3am with your cock - and indeed balls - planted firmly in the jam jar, shame on you.. especially in light of your above appeal re: 'I have nothing against you TA', weak, so very weak
Also, as per you nonsense attack, I am not a mere drone, I am simply a gentleman, a pure bred lord of the manner who could not - and indeed did not - sit idly by as such an uncouth individual (such as yourself) engaged in scurrilous, low, ungentlemanly conduct, shameless infact
It was my goal to reveal you as the backstabbing, snidy (and indeed clumsy) little bastard that you are, a goal that has undeniably been accomplished (accomplished in part thanks to your desire to reveal to the world just how much of a dirty specimen you are, and for that, we thank you!)
As has been covered here many times, my life is rather cosy, I live in retired bliss on the south coast of England, a life that has been crafted by my very own fair hands
I do not - nor do I have to - work, I am very well off
I was involved with several of the largest supplement companies in Europe, two of them now having multi million turnovers, and prior to this, in the early 90's, was one of the first to bring creatine to the European markets, yes, I couldnt fucking move for money during this time, sorry if this isnt as per your weak script above, but then again, when ad hominem is all you have... its all you have, eh?
In short, I piss all over you, piss all over you weak subterfuge, and piss all over your life, oh and, I also keep an eye out for decent folks, folks throughly undeserving of such conduct as that which you have been so fucking eager to bring to the table in this thread
as said, you are a scurrilous piece of work
Now, be gone, you heel!
boy, I must have really hit a nerve, eh? I don't even need to read your long winded, moronic drivel. It's the same shit out of your mouth all the time. You're smarter than everyone else...blah, blah, fucking blah.Jesus, still attempting to claw some dignity out of your current position eh? you are pathetic
As has been established, you have everything against TA, everything. Your little scam was revealed for the snidy poorly planned affair that it was, you, sonny jim, were caught wanking in the pantry at 3am with your cock - and indeed balls - planted firmly in the jam jar, shame on you.. especially in light of your above appeal re: 'I have nothing against you TA', weak, so very weak
Also, as per you nonsense attack, I am not a mere drone, I am simply a gentleman, a pure bred lord of the manner who could not - and indeed did not - sit idly by as such an uncouth individual (such as yourself) engaged in scurrilous, low, ungentlemanly conduct, shameless infact
It was my goal to reveal you as the backstabbing, snidy (and indeed clumsy) little bastard that you are, a goal that has undeniably been accomplished (accomplished in part thanks to your desire to reveal to the world just how much of a dirty specimen you are, and for that, we thank you!)
As has been covered here many times, my life is rather cosy, I live in retired bliss on the south coast of England, a life that has been crafted by my very own fair hands
I do not - nor do I have to - work, I am very well off
I was involved with several of the largest supplement companies in Europe, two of them now having multi million turnovers, and prior to this, in the early 90's, was one of the first to bring creatine to the European markets, yes, I couldnt fucking move for money during this time, sorry if this isnt as per your weak script above, but then again, when ad hominem is all you have... its all you have, eh?
In short, I piss all over you, piss all over you weak subterfuge, and piss all over your life, oh and, I also keep an eye out for decent folks, folks throughly undeserving of such conduct as that which you have been so fucking eager to bring to the table in this thread
as said, you are a scurrilous piece of work
Now, be gone, you heel!