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Title: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 02:22:06 PM
Yep! Shawn tells it like it is.

I felt the show was scored and Judged fairly.
I saw the Prejudging and the top 6 were in the same order I saw on Friday Night. ;)



From Milos


Official opinion is the same as I personally told Ronnie and Jay:

Jay DESERVED the victory....and I announced that already on Friday to many people that asked me for my opinion...
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 02:36:16 PM
bump
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 02, 2006, 02:38:43 PM
what does Shawn know about bodybuilding any more?  He was wrong about Lee, King...and more


Vyotech is using pictures of him from 10 years about...umm..hello? your product was created 3 years. I don't think he ever used your product
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 02:40:19 PM
what does Shawn know about bodybuilding any more?  He was wrong about Lee, King...and more


Vyotech is using pictures of him from 10 years about...umm..hello? your product was created 3 years. I don't think he ever used your product

Haha what  does shawn know about bodybuilding? Fu*king classic! Love him or hate him he knows more than most all about bodybuilding. This is a guy who went through (in manys eyes) bullshit placings.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: Shawn Ray on October 02, 2006, 03:03:33 PM
I never said I knew anything but I do have Beach Front Property in New Orleans I'd like to sell you ;D
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: jesusbod on October 02, 2006, 03:17:43 PM
I never said I knew anything but I do have Beach Front Property in New Orleans I'd like to sell you ;D

There IS beach front property in New Orleans.... Its called Ponchartrain Beach!  I hope you weren't trying to use the " I have beach front property in Arizona" line to insinuate there was no beach in New Orleans?
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: divcom on October 02, 2006, 03:36:27 PM
I never said I knew anything but I do have Beach Front Property in New Orleans I'd like to sell you ;D

Actually...beach front property would be in Gulfport...not NOLA...which has engineering problems...not wave problems or surge...as you would say.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 03:36:55 PM
haha
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: YoungBlood on October 02, 2006, 04:04:41 PM
There IS beach front property in New Orleans.... Its called Ponchartrain Beach!  I hope you weren't trying to use the " I have beach front property in Arizona" line to insinuate there was no beach in New Orleans?

And there's also beach front property in Arizona, Lake Powell. As well as Florida where the joke actually stems from.....But the idea is that the actual beach being sold, is more swamp land, or just not a good beach like a beach in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 04:31:11 PM
 ;D

Official opinion is the same as I personally told Ronnie and Jay:

Jay DESERVED the victory....and I announced that already on Friday to many people that asked me for my opinion...

Wow weird? Why do hulkster and co aviod these type threads? Must be some kind of a fix!
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: Miss Karen on October 02, 2006, 04:34:38 PM
Shawn would you sell to Milos??????.I meant the beach front property.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: alexxx on October 02, 2006, 04:37:21 PM
Shawn would of won this year if he wasn't such a chicken.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: Billy Knockout! on October 02, 2006, 05:07:57 PM
I never said I knew anything but I do have Beach Front Property in New Orleans I'd like to sell you ;D
That's not cool Shawn. :-\
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on October 02, 2006, 06:00:02 PM
what does Shawn know about bodybuilding any more? 
Let's see... 
1988 13th Place
1990 3rd Place
1991 5th Place
1992 4th Place
1993 3rd Place
1994 2nd Place
1995 4th Place
1996 2nd Place
1997 3rd Place
1998 5th Place
1999 5th Place
2000 4th Place
2001 4th Place

Just a guess, but I think he knows more than you.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: rocco911 on October 02, 2006, 06:10:06 PM
Let's see... 
1988 13th Place
1990 3rd Place
1991 5th Place
1992 4th Place
1993 3rd Place
1994 2nd Place
1995 4th Place
1996 2nd Place
1997 3rd Place
1998 5th Place
1999 5th Place
2000 4th Place
2001 4th Place

Just a guess, but I think he knows more than you.

DAMN Right, Shawn is like Bo, "he knows!"  Stop haten the Legend!
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: rocco911 on October 02, 2006, 06:11:56 PM
Doesn't mean shit.  This reminds me of some dumb meathead who thinks he knows more about personal training than I do because he's bigger which is only because he's juiced to the gills anyway.  You would be better off talking to a geek like me who can at least tell you what the difference between the gastrocnemius and soleus is.

Jay has nothing on this:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2006pj/2006olympia_pre_men149_small.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2006pj/2006olympia_pre_men194_small.JPG)

Dude, where you even at the contest?  Ronnie did have anything on Jay.  When he hit the lights out back shot, the lights stayed on and the lats giggled like jello, not to mention he had very little definition in his legs.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 06:25:44 PM
Doesn't mean shit.  This reminds me of some dumb meathead who thinks he knows more about personal training than I do because he's bigger which is only because he's juiced to the gills anyway.  You would be better off talking to a geek like me who can at least tell you what the difference between the gastrocnemius and soleus is.

Jay has nothing on this:

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2006pj/2006olympia_pre_men149_small.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia2006pj/2006olympia_pre_men194_small.JPG)


Ha ha Matt C are you one of the greatest bodybuilders ever knows nothing about bodybuilding? Are you mad because he shoots the insults right back at all the people who insult him. You just cannot accept it bro. Are your video reviews truly unbiased? Who would you like to confirm Jays win. The countless pros that have are not enough? Maybe Arnold will do it for you?

It is not the same as the anaology you mentioned. Sean was one of the best at this sport. Spent years around all the people you write about. Spent time with all the top officals and competitors you claim fixed the show. Had shitty things happen to him on stage. Got screwed by judges, and was one of the best at the sport you are obsessed with. Matt you are some kid behind a computer. No offense bro. Shawn may be an asshole. All bullshit aside the guy calls it like he sees it. Same with milos. You werent even at the Olympia for christs sakes. I guess milos knows shit also. same thing with your boy Dugdale. Oh and health also. Must know nothing about the sport.

He knows these people. You dont know a single one of them. Ronnie was not "destroyed" by Jay. Ronnie was off and he payed the price. Jay looked good and deserved to win.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: rocco911 on October 02, 2006, 06:29:28 PM
The hardness in Ronnie's torso and the size in his arms dominated Jay more than anything of Jay dominated Ronnie.  Jay did have points on Ronnie though, but not by as much of a margin as the aforementioned.

Like I ask were you at the contest?  Because if you were you would have seen that Ronnie's chest was soft, jiggly.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 06:30:46 PM
Like I ask were you at the contest?  Because if you were you would have seen that Ronnie's chest was soft, jiggly.

Of course he wasent.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 06:42:58 PM
body88 - you fail to see my point.  Shawn being a seasoned veteran of bodybuilding doesn't mean he knows more about bodybuilding than I do.  Dexter has been bodybuilding for years and I would still be a superior poser than he could ever be if I stepped on stage.  I also know more than the sweeping majority of pros when it comes to the science of nutrition and exercise physiology.

Just because I have a degree in psychology for instance doesn't mean that I know how to relate to people better than someone who doesn't have that experience.

Now, I will say this regarding Shawn: he has always been a very objective and reliable speaker when it comes to bodybuilding so for him to say Jay was better than Ronnie makes me call into question what he is seeing that I did not.  Maybe being at the show would have given me a different perspective.  Judging from pictures and videos I currently do not agree with Shawn.

I did see your point. He cannot look at a picture and know more about it than you can since he was a great bodybuilder.

He can however make a call on a show that he attended and saw up close. He can also make the call on speculation of a fix better than you could ever. Shawn knows the people responsible for a so called fix personally. Shawn has been a victim of a fix in many peoples minds. Why would he not call this one?

I have never once questioned your intelligence. You are very smart and well spoken. Much more so than I am. I do however feel you being such a big Ronnie fan has effected your statements. Some of them are not of there usual intelligent, unbiased nature.

Nothing personal bro.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: sgt. d on October 02, 2006, 06:47:47 PM
body88 - you fail to see my point.  Shawn being a seasoned veteran of bodybuilding doesn't mean he knows more about bodybuilding than I do.  Dexter has been bodybuilding for years and I would still be a superior poser than he could ever be if I stepped on stage.  I also know more than the sweeping majority of pros when it comes to the science of nutrition and exercise physiology.

Just because I have a degree in psychology for instance doesn't mean that I know how to relate to people better than someone who doesn't have that experience.

Now, I will say this regarding Shawn: he has always been a very objective and reliable speaker when it comes to bodybuilding so for him to say Jay was better than Ronnie makes me call into question what he is seeing that I did not.  Maybe being at the show would have given me a different perspective.  Judging from pictures and videos I currently do not agree with Shawn.

Kid we seen your pics and you are one of the smallest naturals I have ever seen. Shawn was twice your size when he was natural. I see you always like to jump on the "Oh hes juiced up, thats why he looks better than me". Wake up dude
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: sgt. d on October 02, 2006, 06:49:13 PM
Oh yeah I think Ron won the show
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: sgt. d on October 02, 2006, 06:50:18 PM
What the hell are you talking about lol? You got the wrong guy pal. I dont compete nor ever wish to. I weigh like 200 lbs. When have I ever said I was large or wanted to be the size of a bodybuilder lol!

Is your name Matt C? Thats the person I was talking too
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: body88 on October 02, 2006, 06:51:14 PM
Is your name Matt C? Thats the person I was talking too

Nevermind sgt d.... I thought that was to me. I saw the body88 at the top. My bad.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: Doublemonk on October 02, 2006, 06:54:25 PM
Okay Jay was the deserved winner. But with almost perfect score and no one getting close??
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 02, 2006, 06:56:06 PM
Shawn was twice your size when he was natural.
Do you have any physique shots of Shawn when he was natural. Remember he started juicing as a teen.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: Matt C on October 02, 2006, 06:58:49 PM
Kid we seen your pics and you are one of the smallest naturals I have ever seen. Shawn was twice your size when he was natural. I see you always like to jump on the "Oh hes juiced up, thats why he looks better than me". Wake up dude

Shawn looked big because he has an incredible SHAPE to his physique.  At 213, Shawn was never a mass monster.  Shape goes a long way to create an illusion.  I never argued that structure isn't genetic.  That is something that does not come in a needle.

Most else in bodybuilding does though.  ;)
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: sgt. d on October 02, 2006, 07:02:01 PM
Shawn looked big because he has an incredible SHAPE to his physique.  At 213, Shawn was never a mass monster.  Shape goes a long way to create an illusion.  I never argued that structure is genetic.

Please start a cycle.

12 weeks of any Test you like.

Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: Matt C on October 02, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
Please start a cycle.

12 weeks of any Test you like.



ICN enanthate?  ;D
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 02, 2006, 07:03:47 PM
Shawn was incredible. Now though... :'(
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2006, 07:54:53 PM
TWO of the biggest men and one needed to win ,the one who's mass was better conditioned won.if coleman returned following day and pulled a rabbitt out of the hat and killed it could have been different,but it was over and done fri,whether or not it was rigged.
Title: Re: Quote from Shawn Ray and Milos about the placings at the O
Post by: njflex on October 02, 2006, 08:07:10 PM
Yes, I can see why you guys would say Jay's overall conditioning was better than Ronnie's.  Ronnie definitely had him beat in some areas though - the arms in particular, as well as glutes and hamstrings.  Ronnie was huge but Jay was shredded, albeit not as hard as Ronnie.

I will not lose any sleep over this decision, but I still felt this was Ronnie's - but Jay's lat spread - DAMN.  I never expected him to surpass Ronnie by ANY margin when it came to back, let alone an obvious one.
And cutler is the only runnerup in o history to challenge and surpass the allmighty mr o back curse,no one challenged haney gaspari couldn't,yate's had no takers,coleman till cutler took it too him,his game plan was to get that bodypart either same or enough to knock out champ and it worked.