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Adam, you have claimed to have deadlifted 600 lbs, you even posted a pic to prove it right?
You also claim that when you dieted down, you "never lost an ounce" of muscle. If this is infact true, then you should still be able to deadlift 600 lbs, and at your current body weight of 165 lbs, thats pretty damn impressive.
Have you ever considered powerlifting?
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Adam, you have claimed to have deadlifted 600 lbs, you even posted a pic to prove it right?
You also claim that when you dieted down, you "never lost an ounce" of muscle. If this is infact true, then you should still be able to deadlift 600 lbs, and at your current body weight of 165 lbs, thats pretty damn impressive.
Have you ever considered powerlifting?
I can do a bit over 600 in Relative terms!
Proportionately speaking I am a lot stronger. I credit my 600 due to better center of gravity and stability from my extreme fatness. My lifting angles also dramatically change.
I have been thinking of doing Natural Powerlifting. I am not built for powerlifting at all though. Powerlifters usually have small,short and thick bones and frames. They also have way shorter distance to travel.
In effect I am stronger than a lot of powerlifters based on physics. Based on actual WORK performed, due to distance and time under stress.
No idea why that isn`t taken into consideration in powerlifting???
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Because math hurts their heads.....
Probably right.
Distance has more to do with power than just lifting a weight.
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I can do a bit over 600 in Relative terms!
Proportionately speaking I am a lot stronger. I credit my 600 due to better center of gravity and stability from my extreme fatness. My lifting angles also dramatically change.
I have been thinking of doing Natural Powerlifting. I am not built for powerlifting at all though. Powerlifters usually have small,short and thick bones and frames. They also have way shorter distance to travel.
In effect I am stronger than a lot of powerlifters based on physics. Based on actual WORK performed, due to distance and time under stress.
No idea why that isn`t taken into consideration in powerlifting???
I stopped reading after the word "relative"
I have an uncle in Florida...
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adonis are you afraid to say that you are under 200 pounds?
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Relatively speaking you came in first in the Mr. GetBig!
If you start counting at 2 then you will be first..it is all prospective..
dude..you are the best..relatively speaking ofcourse
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I can do a bit over 600 in Relative terms!
Proportionately speaking I am a lot stronger. I credit my 600 due to better center of gravity and stability from my extreme fatness. My lifting angles also dramatically change.
I have been thinking of doing Natural Powerlifting. I am not built for powerlifting at all though. Powerlifters usually have small,short and thick bones and frames. They also have way shorter distance to travel.
In effect I am stronger than a lot of powerlifters based on physics. Based on actual WORK performed, due to distance and time under stress.
No idea why that isn`t taken into consideration in powerlifting???
that would be a good idea for your physique adonis...you should do some powerlifting...with some heavy training you should be able to put on some needed thickness.
i didnt know you ever trained heavy because your usually posting this garbage about light weights, super high reps, 10 min. sets, pushups, ect....all of which have zero benefits as far as building muscle.
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Adam has long arms. It makes the lift a little easier. I'm surprised his bench is so high with arms that long. My friend has been training naturally for only a year and can deadlift 500. There are some genetic freaks out there.
I once saw a 77 year old man behind the neck press 255 for 17. He looked like he never lifted a weight in his life. He had the strangest forearms. Had to measure about 5-6 inches from wrist to elbow. Very odd.
So you see. Distance traveled has a lot to do with it all as well as bone placement and lifting angle.
In powerlifting, little of it is actually muscle strength at all.
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I once saw a 77 year old man behind the neck press 255 for 17. He looked like he never lifted a weight in his life. He had the strangest forearms. Had to measure about 5-6 inches from wrist to elbow. Very odd.
So you see. Distance traveled has a lot to do with it all as well as bone placement and lifting angle.
In powerlifting, little of it is actually muscle strength at all.
Dude in my gym ,long frame and arm's not prototypical type powerlifting frame either,pull's 700 or so and compete's clean.5'10 or 11.
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adonis could you love yourself anymore?
when you are getting your ass kicked in a bar fight, do you say, well, relatively I am a better puncher than you are as my vagina will only allow me to bend at certain angles
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Dude in my gym ,long frame and arm's not prototypical type powerlifting frame either,pull's 700 or so and compete's clean.5'10 or 11.
People need to know these things so they don`t feel bad about themselves not being able to do what the next guy does. It simply does not matter.
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adonis could you love yourself anymore?
when you are getting your ass kicked in a bar fight, do you say, well, relatively I am a better puncher than you are as my vagina will only allow me to bend at certain angles
Well that does not happen. I don`t go to bars and nobody would ever fight me. I would embarrass them so bad in intellect, they would be dazed for hours.
Or I would just throw a patented Adonis Left hook. Lots of power in these Deadlifters back, buddy. Plus I do sets of pullups 20 reps easy. :)
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Well that does not happen. I don`t go to bars and nobody would ever fight me. I would embarrass them so bad in intellect, they would be dazed for hours.
Or I would just throw a patented Adonis Left hook. Lots of power in these Deadlifters back, buddy. Plus I do sets of pullups 20 reps easy. :)
What if they block your left hook and are unimpressed with your pullup abilities?
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What if they block your left hook and are unimpressed with your pullup abilities?
I challenge them to a deadlifting contest.
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so he's under 200 pounds then?
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I stopped reading after the word "relative"
I have an uncle in Florida...
He live by the beach?
I think I know the guy...
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I challenge them to a deadlifting contest.
arm wrestling is more feasible in Da club. ;D
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People need to know these things so they don`t feel bad about themselves not being able to do what the next guy does. It simply does not matter.
i give the guy a lot of credit,he's also 40 or so,i alway's ragged on him before i talked to him that he dosen't have a power lifter body ,nice guy now that i know him.
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Adonis, really, you are a fucking moron and should just stop with your bullshit comments about demonstrable strength.
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Adonis, really, you are a fucking moron and should just stop with your bullshit comments about demonstrable strength.
Its all physics my boy.
Simple as that.
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TA, what is your deadlift poundage right now? and, what was it when you were in your outstanding Mr Getbig winning condition?
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TA, what is your deadlift poundage right now? and, what was it when you were in your outstanding Mr Getbig winning condition?
Whilst I havent maxed out, But I did easily get 225 for 113 a few weeks ago and last week I did 420 for 5 easily.
I am quite Sure I could do 500 or so right now and I am leaner than the Mr. Getbig Contest.
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I am certain Adonis could do 700 if he wanted to.
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Whilst I havent maxed out, But I did easily get 225 for 113 a few weeks ago and last week I did 420 for 5 easily.
I am quite Sure I could do 500 or so right now and I am leaner than the Mr. Getbig Contest.
respectable on the 420, but 225 for 113? is that a tyo? LOL
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Probably right.
Distance has more to do with power than just lifting a weight.
Distance has nothing to do with power. Power is simply the rate at which work is performed. Sounds like you flunked out of freshman physics, Einstein.
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Is that a typo? LOL.
it was intentional, fuck off
:)
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In powerlifting, little of it is actually muscle strength at all.
this is, almost by far, the one single most stupid thing you have ever said.
keep up the good work.
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Whilst I havent maxed out, But I did easily get 225 for 113 a few weeks ago and last week I did 420 for 5 easily.
I am quite Sure I could do 500 or so right now and I am leaner than the Mr. Getbig Contest.
Put up a film of yourself doing the 225 for 100 reps.
No offence, but I don't believe that claim for a minute (take it as a compliment).
YIP
Zack
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Distance has nothing to do with power. Power is simply the rate at which work is performed. Sounds like you flunked out of freshman physics, Einstein.
LOL man are you actualy taking his comment seriously ?
He claim to change the laws of graivity.. ::)
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Put up a film of yourself doing the 225 for 100 reps.
No offence, but I don't believe that claim for a minute (take it as a compliment).
YIP
Zack
hedge, have you seen the video of Sarge squatting 200 for 98 reps?
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Distance has nothing to do with power. Power is simply the rate at which work is performed. Sounds like you flunked out of freshman physics, Einstein.
That is a fact.
Actually powerlifters rely little on power in their lifts. TA must be talking about olympic lifting or just likes making shite up.
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hedge, have you seen the video of Sarge squatting 200 for 98 reps?
Was trying to upload it on youtube, but the fcuker is too long, 11:00 of squatting.
Here's a place do download it from, you have to rightclick and save it to the computer before watching it:
http://www.marunde-muscle.com/videos/sarge218lbsbw218lbsquatX98reps.wmv
No fcuking way I believe TA, let me put it that way.
YIP
Zack
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Well that does not happen. I don`t go to bars and nobody would ever fight me. I would embarrass them so bad in intellect, they would be dazed for hours.
Or I would just throw a patented Adonis Left hook. Lots of power in these Deadlifters back, buddy. Plus I do sets of pullups 20 reps easy. :)
Fact is, you dont go anywhere because your on these boards 18hrs a day from your sugar daddy's computer spewing absurd ideas about dieting.
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i agree with jmt on this one.
i don't see any point at all in doing endurance activities with weights unless, maybe, you have to do it for a living or something.
bricklayers lift weights all day long and they aint impressive at all.
powerlifters are the strongest people around, no question. i agree that leverages etc help in competition, but all things being equal lifting big weights in basic movements is still the best way to get strong.
adonis has got a good point about strength being relative, but it is still the case that all things being equal (many variables here), those that lift more and more weight in correct form will get stronger themselves.
there is such a contrast in people's physiology though that what may be a productive exercise for some just causes injury in others (press behind neck for example).
one of the main objectives of a smart powerlifter is to find a way to shorten the movement and reduce rotation around the joints ie greater weight lifted with less strain on stabilizers and connective tissues.
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OHHH please,all the excuses about weight and height.
Fact is he never did and never will ilft all those 8000000 deadlifts.
And now he make stupid excuses about being a skinny mofo that got a fake crack fiend looking gf.
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The pump in the lowerback with 100 reps must be a horrible feeling.
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The pump in the lowerback with 100 reps must be a horrible feeling.
How the fuck would you know? You don't even work out you fuckin weasel.
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Its all physics my boy.
Simple as that.
No it isn't you moron. Leverage plays a role relative to muscle insertion points on the bone and the length of bones but there is much more to demonstrable strength than that.
Look, you are NOT a guru at this point in time. Perhaps one day you can become one but some of the stuff you are saying these days is only making you look like an idiot to anyone who knows anything.
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i want video proof before i belive that TA deadlifts 600 ponds. He looks nowere near those poundages.
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i want video proof before i belive that TA deadlifts 600 ponds. He looks nowere near those poundages.
Well, he posted a pic a while ago (should be evidence enough, it's not like you can edit/manipulate a pic), but maybe he borrowed some flex-weights.
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I am going to video the 100 rep deadlift soon.
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i want video proof before i belive that TA deadlifts 600 ponds. He looks nowere near those poundages.
it is all relative! let me explain
1. When someone says that they are lifting 4 plates they usually mean "4 plates per side". But some may mean 2 plates per side.
2. When someone says that they are deadlifting 600lbs it could mean in 2 sets.
So I truly believe that TA can deadlift 600lbs it is all on how you look at it. As he has stated, it is all relative
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OHHH please,all the excuses about weight and height.
Fact is he never did and never will ilft all those 8000000 deadlifts.
And now he make stupid excuses about being a skinny mofo that got a fake crack fiend looking gf.
where did you see anyone claim that she is faking? ;)
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where did you see anyone claim that she is faking? ;)
actually she does fake it but.... that is an entirely different story.
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Distance has nothing to do with power. Power is simply the rate at which work is performed. Sounds like you flunked out of freshman physics, Einstein.
You are misinterpreting what I was saying.
W = F x d Of course. However, in powerlifting, The further the distance the more work performed, hence more power is generated/needed.
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You are misinterpreting what I was saying.
W = F x d Of course. However, in powerlifting, The further the distance the more work performed, hence more power is generated/needed.
Wrong.
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Well, he posted a pic a while ago (should be evidence enough, it's not like you can edit/manipulate a pic), but maybe he borrowed some flex-weights.
yeah i know. But maybe he just reracked like when you do shruggs stepped back and took the shot ;D
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I can do a bit over 600 in Relative terms!
How much can you do, relatively?
Proportionately speaking I am a lot stronger.
Elaborate please.
In effect I am stronger than a lot of powerlifters based on physics.
How?
YIP
Zack
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He did elaborate hedgehog.. said he did 420 for 5 last workout or whatever. But says he believes he could do 500 still.
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He did elaborate hedgehog.. said he did 420 for 5 last workout or whatever. But says he believes he could do 500 still.
420 for 5 = "I can do a bit over 600 in Relative Terms"?
Hm.
YIP
Zack
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Well taking into account he was around 240 when he did 600 you can see where he is coming from.
Albeit it is contradictory to some of his ideas but its best not to delve too far into that :)
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I can do 600 for 20 reps. Since this is the internet, if I say anything it makes it true.
I don't have to provide proof, which also proves that it is true. If someone else on here claims that they saw me that always makes it true. If conjure up a girlfriend, that is also makes my 600 for 20 reps true.
here is my formula. Thermal velocity times mass equals the ratio of the universe. Thus 1 + 1 = 3, relatively ofcourse
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Its all physics my boy.
Simple as that.
ACTUALLY ADONIS IS RIGHT Its ALL REALTIVE! depending on the medium, for instance in looneytoon town land were he is from, there is no gravitational pull so 600lbs it actually y pretty light weight for him.
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TA is also relatively a good looking person with relatively good genetics
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yeah, well i do 300lb curls in pretty strict form for 5 reps (5th assisted). in fact i USED to do em all the time. there WAS a guy that saw me do em but he's deceased now so...
i've got 3 lines of proof
1. i USED to do em all the time so i can't show you now.
2. i'm saying i did them on the internet
3. if you don't believe me you're a skinny little girlie boy that's never trained in a gym.
4. the only person that saw me do them all the time is dead. i trained in the busiest and most popular gyms in america with 98567020 hardcore strong motha fukas and they all saw me do every other lift that i did and can tell you exactly how much weight i used in all those other lifts (just ask em), but.............i only ever trained arms in front of one person and he's dead so you are a fuking puny little nobody if you don't believe me. >:(
5. did i mention you're a skinny little girlie boy if you don't believe me?
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TA is also relatively a good looking person with relatively good genetics
;D
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Adonis, really, you are a fucking moron and should just stop with your bullshit comments about demonstrable strength.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LOL
Understatement of the year though......
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Distance has nothing to do with power. Power is simply the rate at which work is performed. Sounds like you flunked out of freshman physics, Einstein.
LOL..and yet he alleges to have a degree in "physics".
No one with .001% of a brain believes his dumbass could pass a calculus- based physics course. Just read his posts FFS.
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LOL..and yet he alleges to have a degree in "physics".
No one with .001% of a brain believes his dumbass could pass a calculus- based physics course. Just read his posts FFS.
U just don't realize that Adonis physics theories are light years Ahead of our time, the place that he is from he took physics courses when he was 2 year old, it nice to be from looney town
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How is TA's mental wellbeing?
YIP
Zack
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how much does TA even weigh? i woudln't be brag'n about a 420lb dl unless i was about a buck sixty
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I challenge them to a deadlifting contest.
LOL
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gay donis loses credibility everytime he posts
you literal find contradictions on every page where he posts.
this is funny stuff..keep it up gay donis
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yeah, well i do 300lb curls in pretty strict form for 5 reps (5th assisted). in fact i USED to do em all the time. there WAS a guy that saw me do em but he's deceased now so...
i've got 3 lines of proof
1. i USED to do em all the time so i can't show you now.
2. i'm saying i did them on the internet
3. if you don't believe me you're a skinny little girlie boy that's never trained in a gym.
4. the only person that saw me do them all the time is dead. i trained in the busiest and most popular gyms in america with 98567020 hardcore strong motha fukas and they all saw me do every other lift that i did and can tell you exactly how much weight i used in all those other lifts (just ask em), but.............i only ever trained arms in front of one person and he's dead so you are a fuking puny little nobody if you don't believe me. >:(
5. did i mention you're a skinny little girlie boy if you don't believe me?
I didn`t USED to do anything.
Fact is I am stronger now. Plain and simple.
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420 for 5 = "I can do a bit over 600 in Relative Terms"?
Hm.
YIP
Zack
Do my power to weight now and see that I am in fact, "deadlifting over 600 lbs" right now!
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I didn`t USED to do anything.
Fact is I am stronger now. Plain and simple.
Great.
375 lbs in the benchpress.
600 lbs in the deadlift.
Those are some of the lifts you've claimed.
Now you're stronger.
How much do you do in the benchpress and in the deadlift?
YIP
Zack
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To equal a 600 lbs deadlift at my current bodyweight, All I have to do is deadlift 410 lbs.
How do you like that?
So in reality, If I do 500 now, which I can, I should be doing 731 lbs at my previous bodyweight.
Now you are starting to see it!
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To equal a 600 lbs deadlift at my current bodyweight, All I have to do is deadlift 410 lbs.
How do you like that?
So in reality, If I do 500 now, which I can, I should be doing 731 lbs at my previous bodyweight.
Now you are starting to see it!
oh, let's play the numbers game.....
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To equal a 600 lbs deadlift at my current bodyweight, All I have to do is deadlift 410 lbs.
How do you like that?
So in reality, If I do 500 now, which I can, I should be doing 731 lbs at my previous bodyweight.
Now you are starting to see it!
Why is 410 lbs equal to 600 lbs?
YIP
Zack
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I didn`t USED to do anything.
Fact is I am stronger now. Plain and simple.
nah, not having a go at you here, just recalling the ronnie 310lb curl thread and having a bit of fun.
i know what you mean by strength demonstration being relative. more fat = more compression and shorter range of motion.
yes i know this though it may be that with your longer arms you may have an advantage in the dl over most. although you may suffer in the full squat next to a short limbed thick guy.
in any case to get stronger you must lift heavier weights in the longer term. light weights for alot of reps is not going to make you stronger.
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To equal a 600 lbs deadlift at my current bodyweight, All I have to do is deadlift 410 lbs.
How do you like that?
So in reality, If I do 500 now, which I can, I should be doing 731 lbs at my previous bodyweight.
Now you are starting to see it!
This shit is hilarious!!! I guess I'm a lot stronger than I thought..... relatively speaking ofcourse
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Why is 410 lbs equal to 600 lbs?
YIP
Zack
Because. You adjust power to weight.
MY power to weight at near 240 lbs is not near as good as it is now.
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Because. You adjust power to weight.
MY power to weight at near 240 lbs is not near as good as it is now.
so if I could pull 800 at a weight of 350, I can go online and say I can pull it at 178?
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Because. You adjust power to weight.
MY power to weight at near 240 lbs is not near as good as it is now.
i don't like the power to weight thing. it's too limiting and provides a reason to fail.
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Because. You adjust power to weight.
MY power to weight at near 240 lbs is not near as good as it is now.
based on those standards every weight and power record would need to be rewritten to account of for body type
actually every performance based record.
I can hear it now:
I actually won the swim meet because I am shorter
technically I am faster since I am shorter
I make more money than you because I said so
I have a girlfriend because I showed a picture online
or my favorite...I am stronger, since I have less muscle why should that count against me?
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Because. You adjust power to weight.
MY power to weight at near 240 lbs is not near as good as it is now.
Why should you adjust "Power" to weight?
YIP
Zack
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Jezze: did you just cum in 2 minutes?
TA: relatively speaking that is actually 1 hour! The lives of ants is shorter than ours and thus every minute counts longer. So if we were ants it would be like 1 hour of sex..nah 2 hours..relatively speaking
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Why should you adjust "Power" to weight?
YIP
Zack
Power-to-weight ratio (sometimes referred to as the more general Specific power) and its inverse weight-to-power ratio are measures commonly used when comparing various vehicles (or engines), including automobiles, motorcycles, aircraft, and armoured fighting vehicles. It is the power the engine generates, divided by the vehicle's (or engine) weight or vice versa:
Units are usually horsepower per tonne (hp/tonne - PtW) or kilograms per horsepower (kg/hp - WtP), although nowadays watts are used for power in most countries that adopted the metric system
The power-to-weight ratio is often used as an indication of likely performance. The larger the PtW (the smaller the WtP) the more performance can be expected. Vehicle weights have relatively little impact on top speed, which is mostly dependent on aerodynamic drag (see drag equation). Acceleration (a), on the other hand, is dominated by the Newtonian acceleration term, F = ma, so more force (F - from the engine's torque delivered to the driven wheels or thrust delivered by an aircraft engine), will deliver more acceleration for any given vehicle mass (m = weight/g).
In any vehicle the engine power-to-weight ratio is essential for vehicle power-to-weight ratio. But in an aircraft it is more critical than in any other vehicle because any additional weight requires more lift to be generated by the wings in order to lift it. More lift from the wings automatically means more drag, through a process known as induced drag, slowing the plane down. Thus if any two engines deliver the same power, the lighter one will result in a better plane. Power-to-weight ratio therefore has a much more important impact on overall performance in aircraft, including top speed.
In this usage the power-to-weight ratio is typically used to refer to the weight of the engine alone, as a useful way of comparing various aircraft engines. The term applying to the aircraft as a whole is power loading, and is used especially in helicopter engineering.
Power-to-weight ratio is also often used as a general indicator of the mobility of tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, usually expressed in horsepower per tonne (hp/t). Such vehicles, weighing up to seventy tons, must be able to achieve relatively high speeds quickly, while overcoming a great deal of inertia and mechanical resistance even on hard surfaces, and also travel at high speeds over soft ground and up steep slopes.
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Hey adonis I can bench 365 for 4 reps. I weigh 178, but I have 8.5 inch wrists, can I go on websites and tell people I can bench 600?
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Jezze: did you just cum in 2 minutes?
TA: relatively speaking that is actually 1 hour! The lives of ants is shorter than ours and thus every minute counts longer. So if we were ants it would be like 1 hour of sex..nah 2 hours..relatively speaking
THAT WAS BEAUTFULL ;D
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Power-to-weight ratio (sometimes referred to as the more general Specific power) and its inverse weight-to-power ratio are measures commonly used when comparing various vehicles (or engines), including automobiles, motorcycles, aircraft, and armoured fighting vehicles. It is the power the engine generates, divided by the vehicle's (or engine) weight or vice versa:
Units are usually horsepower per tonne (hp/tonne - PtW) or kilograms per horsepower (kg/hp - WtP), although nowadays watts are used for power in most countries that adopted the metric system
The power-to-weight ratio is often used as an indication of likely performance. The larger the PtW (the smaller the WtP) the more performance can be expected. Vehicle weights have relatively little impact on top speed, which is mostly dependent on aerodynamic drag (see drag equation). Acceleration (a), on the other hand, is dominated by the Newtonian acceleration term, F = ma, so more force (F - from the engine's torque delivered to the driven wheels or thrust delivered by an aircraft engine), will deliver more acceleration for any given vehicle mass (m = weight/g).
In any vehicle the engine power-to-weight ratio is essential for vehicle power-to-weight ratio. But in an aircraft it is more critical than in any other vehicle because any additional weight requires more lift to be generated by the wings in order to lift it. More lift from the wings automatically means more drag, through a process known as induced drag, slowing the plane down. Thus if any two engines deliver the same power, the lighter one will result in a better plane. Power-to-weight ratio therefore has a much more important impact on overall performance in aircraft, including top speed.
In this usage the power-to-weight ratio is typically used to refer to the weight of the engine alone, as a useful way of comparing various aircraft engines. The term applying to the aircraft as a whole is power loading, and is used especially in helicopter engineering.
Power-to-weight ratio is also often used as a general indicator of the mobility of tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, usually expressed in horsepower per tonne (hp/t). Such vehicles, weighing up to seventy tons, must be able to achieve relatively high speeds quickly, while overcoming a great deal of inertia and mechanical resistance even on hard surfaces, and also travel at high speeds over soft ground and up steep slopes.
You still need to explain how you make 410 lbs into 600 lbs.
And, I remember you talking about fat as deadweight, and that you haven't lost one ounce of muscle.
How is it then that you cannot pull 600 lbs today?
YIP
Zack
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Hedgehog, I still think you don`t get that a weight lifted has nothing to do with muscle.
I lost 0 Lean Body mass. 0.
The weight lifted means nothing. I do not have the same mechanics now. I had a high 30s waist and nearly 20 inch arms. I was a different kind of lever then with a different center of gravity.
Muscle gain or loss is not dictated by a weight lifted.
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How much does body size and fatness affect sports performance?
In some sports, particularly those based on skill (e.g. golf, archery and shooting), performance is largely independent of body fatness. Both selection and conditioning factors tend to allow higher body fat levels in these athletes. In fact, top performers in these sports may actually be overweight (or over-fat) by community standards.
At the other end of the spectrum there are sports in which a low body mass, and in particular a low body fat level, are a distinct advantage to performance. The advantages of a low body fat level include physical and mechanical gains due to an increased power to mass ratio, or simply to a reduction in the 'dead weight' that must be moved by the athlete. This is a particular advantage where the athlete has to transport their own body mass over long distances (e.g. distance runners, triathletes, road cyclists) or to move vertically against greater gravity effects (gymnasts, jumpers, basketball players, or cyclists riding a hilly course). Higher body fat levels are seen in endurance athletes, most notably swimmers, who perform in a weight-supported sport. A high 'power to mass' ratio plays a role in 'stop-start' sports by increasing speed, agility and the ability to change direction quickly. In some team sports, players in mobile field positions or with a mobile playing style are often observed to have lower body fat levels than their team-mates. On the other hand, particularly in sports involving physical contact, a higher body fat level may be less problematic for 'set position' players. A certain level of body fat may help to protect body organs against injury from body contact, and to provide bulk against tackling. Nevertheless, a high body mass should be achieved principally through an increase in muscle mass.
A small body size per se is an advantage in distance events, especially in hot conditions where a greater surface area to volume ratio enhances heat dissipation. It also helps in acrobatic sports such as diving and gymnastics to assist the athlete to rotate or spin their entire body over a smaller area or in a faster time. Finally, in some sports there is an aesthetic component to performance. A slim, petite figure is currently deemed de rigueur in gymnastics, diving, figure skating and other subjectively judged sports. Extreme leanness is an obsession in body building, to allow muscularity to be maximally defined.
A number of studies of elite athletes have identified profiles of body fat and muscularity that confirm these principles. And in some sports, across a group of athletes of differing abilities or disciplines, there is a statistical relationship between performance and body fatness: a lower body fat level is related to better performance. These data help to promote the interest, and sometimes obsession, of various groups of athletes to achieve minimal body fat levels. But there are some limitations of these types of studies that are not taken into account by individual athletes. First, it is true that among heterogeneous groups of athletes, individual factors such as body fat levels or VO2max are predictive of performance. However, among a group of top performers or athletes with similar ability, the importance of these factors alone disappears. Instead, a combination of factors begin to play interconnected roles. Even when there is an association between body fat and performance, this does not hold true for individual cases. Among a group it is likely that some of the best performers do not conform to the stereotyped lean model, whereas some athletes with very low body fat levels are not highly gifted.
Most importantly, these studies are cross-sectional rather than longitudinal. In other words, there are no good studies in which the performance of individual athletes have been monitored across a range of body fat levels. These studies would be necessary to confirm the absolute value of a certain, particularly low, level of body fatness. It is likely that if such studies were undertaken, they might confirm general tendencies towards benefits of size and body fat in some sports. But they might also confirm the observation of sports nutrition practitioners, that each athlete has a 'natural' body shape, and that they perform best within a range of this. Trying to achieve a stereotypical 'ideal' must always be balanced against the cost and disadvantages of fighting against their natural body fat levels.
A separate story of size, shape and performance involves sports with specific weight limits for competition. In sports such as boxing, wrestling, judo, light-weight rowing and weight lifting, weight divisions (commonly ranging from two to ten) have been set with the intention of matching competitors or opponents of similar size and strength. This is proposed to allow fair and equal competition. In horse racing, the horse is similarly handicapped in that they carry a certain weight, which then sets an upper weight limit for the jockey. Of course, athletes in these sports all want to compete in a lower weight class than they really deserve to be in, believing that this will mean competing against a smaller, lighter opponent. 'Making weight', the practice of reducing body mass to meet the competition weight limit, will be discussed later.
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To equal a 600 lbs deadlift at my current bodyweight, All I have to do is deadlift 410 lbs.
How do you like that?
So in reality, If I do 500 now, which I can, I should be doing 731 lbs at my previous bodyweight.
Now you are starting to see it!
Yeah but you said yoiu havent lost any strengh since losing all that weight
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Hedgehog, I still think you don`t get that a weight lifted has nothing to do with muscle.
Muscle gain or loss is not dictated by a weight lifted.
Actually it is.
I'm pretty sure if I stopped lifting weights and kept everything else constant, that I would loose some degree of muscle tissue.
Do you realize yet that you are very close to getting laughed completely off this board??
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Yeah but you said yoiu havent lost any strengh since losing all that weight
I haven`t.
My strength went up.
I am exerting more work and force now.
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So you can deadlift more than 600pounds now for 1 rep at your bodyweight?
How much would you luke to bet that you cant?
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I had a high 30s waist and nearly 20 inch arms. I was a different kind of lever then with a different center of gravity.
Sorry TA...but nobody else is calling bullshit on the "20 inch arms" so I will. No WAY on earth, from your "fat" pics I've seen, you had anything CLOSE to 20 inch arms (maybe 16.5 tops). Hedge care to jump in and second this?
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Every time I have dieted down with High Protein and oats or my Ice Creams and Doughnuts the same EXACT thing occurs.
Except this time my power to weight is way better than it was the previous times getting really lean.
But either way, my leverage and center of gravity dramatically change as well as range of motion.
A reduction of 13 inches in the waist alone and who knows else where will make a significant change mechanically.
It has nothing to do with muscle.
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'Hedgehog, I still think you don`t get that a weight lifted has nothing to do with muscle.'
you can count me in also (not getting it) in that case.
weight lifting has 'nothing' to do with muscle?
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So you can deadlift more than 600pounds now for 1 rep at your bodyweight?
How much would you luke to bet that you cant?
Care to make that bet.
if you dont just say you have lied yet again and you cant deadlift 600
now.
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'Hedgehog, I still think you don`t get that a weight lifted has nothing to do with muscle.'
you can count me in also (not getting it) in that case.
weight lifting has 'nothing' to do with muscle?
EXACTLY!
PAul Dillet in his prime had tons of muscle, but there are 150 lb lifters that would kill him! ITs not because of muscle!
JAy Cutler is a weakling compared to many lifter his same height but 100 lbs less.
They lift more than he can and have way less muscle.
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Sorry TA...but nobody else is calling bullshit on the "20 inch arms" so I will. No WAY on earth, from your "fat" pics I've seen, you had anything CLOSE to 20 inch arms (maybe 16.5 tops). Hedge care to jump in and second this?
bump. Second calling of bullshit on 20 inch arms. LMAO
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Are ants incredibly super strong? Would they be able to toss trucks around like volley balls if they were our size? What if we could shrink down to ant size? Say about 6.4 millimeters (1/4 of an inch for the metrically challenged) tall? How strong would we be compared to the mighty ant?
And while we're at it, wasn't there always some little guy in PE class that could do 200 pushups and 30 pullups? The big guys, even the strong fast athletic big guys, just aren't usually the pull-up champions, are they? It's almost always the small guys.
It's true for world class weight lifters too. The smaller people usually lift more with respect to their weight than the big people. It's not better muscles, or a more determined attitude, that helps the little guys, it's just geometry and the way muscles work.
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EXACTLY!
PAul Dillet in his prime had tons of muscle, but there are 150 lb lifters that would kill him! ITs not because of muscle!
JAy Cutler is a weakling compared to many lifter his same height but 100 lbs less.
They lift more than he can and have way less muscle.
you're forgetting all the physiological, motivational and mental variabes here adam.
put simply, you think that lifting weights had 'nothing' to do with the muscular development on jay and paul's bodies?
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Care to make that bet.
if you dont just say you have lied yet again and you cant deadlift 600
now.
3rd time I am calling bullshit
Still dont want to make a bet huh?
Thought so.
You really are a luaghing stock here and over on ironage
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We are talking about weight lifted.
THE EVOLUTION OF BODYMASS ADJUSTMENT FORMULAE
2-21-00
Periodically, the issue arises of comparing the strength of athletes of
different bodymass. The following article summarises some of the more
important events in the evolution of strength-bodymass relationships and
their use in lifting or strength comparison.
Some of us have found the equations involved to be interesting and useful in
comparing treadmill-based performances. Instead of simply dividing by
bodymass, we have used these lifting-based comparison methods to compare
results obtained for athletes of different bodymass on treadmill or cycle
ergometers. Years ago, some exercise physiologists applied the two-thirds
power law (mentioned in the first paragraph below) in an attempt to improve
upon bodymass adjustments made by simple division by bodymass. Since the
ability to execute work is related to lean body or muscle mass, we felt that
using strength-based formulae might be highly relevant. Has anyone else
examined ergometry and other bodymass-dependent results in this way?
THE EVOLUTION OF BODYMASS ADJUSTMENT FORMULAE
(Ref: Siff M C & Verkhoshansky Y V "Supertraining", 1999)
Strength is related to the cross-sectional area of the muscles and,
consequently, indirectly to bodymass. Therefore, the heavier the athlete,
the larger the load he can lift. The athlete's bodymass is proportional to
the cube of its linear dimensions, whereas a muscle's cross-sectional area
is proportional only to its square. From this basic dimensional analysis, the
mathematical relationship between maximum strength (F) and bodymass (B) may
be expressed as F = a.B ^ 2/3, where a is a constant, which characterises the
athlete's level of strength fitness (Lietzke, 1956). Lietzke found that the
most accurate fit to data was obtained for an exponent of 0.6748, which was
close to the theoretical value of 0.6667. This equation expresses with
modest accuracy the relationship between bodymass and results in the Olympic
lifts.
In the practical setting, Hoffman had already appreciated from 1937 the value
of the two-thirds power law in comparing the performances of weightlifters of
different bodymass and he annexed this equation as the 'Hoffman formula'.
More than ten years later, Austin considered the theoretical 2/3 exponent as
insufficiently accurate to describe the records of his day, so he produced
his 'Austin formula' with an exponent of 3/4. More recently, several
researchers persisted with the two-thirds power law, including Karpovich and
Sinning (1971), who used current weightlifting records to demonstrate that
the exponent still remained fairly close to two-thirds. Their equation,
however, offered only modest accuracy, with a mean error over all the
bodymass classes of 5.2% in interpolation and major inaccuracies in
extrapolation for the heavier lifters (e.g. the error at 125 kg bodymass was
14.7%).
Numerous attempts have been made since then to derive the closest possible
mathematical relationship between the Olympic lifts and bodymass (e.g. by
O'Carroll, Vorobyev and Sukhanov), but all equations invariably favoured
certain bodymass classes and competitive weightlifters strongly opposed to
comparisons of performance based on relative scores using any of the extant
formulae.
Consequently, in 1971, Siff and McSorley, an engineering student at the
University of Cape Town, South Africa, examined the possibility of fitting
different equations to current weightlifting records for all bodymass
divisions up to 110 kg. Soon afterwards, McSorley prepared
computer-generated parabolic-fit tables to compare performances by
weightlifters of different bodymass. In 1972 these tables were adopted by
the South African Weightlifting Union and were used for nearly a decade to
award trophies and select national teams. In 1976 Sinclair of Canada
concluded similarly that a parabolic system offered the best means of
com-paring the strength of lifters of different bodymasses (Sinclair &
Christensen, 1976).
The McSorley and Sinclair parabolic systems were limited in that both were
most accurate for bodymasses up to 110 kg and, since they were based on world
records of no more than three successive years, the tables became inaccurate
whenever world records were broken. To avoid these difficulties, it is
preferable to collect a database comprising the mean of the ten best lifts
ever achieved in each of the 11 bodymass classes in weightlifting history for
bodymasses up to about 165 kg (Siff, 1988). Statistical regression
techniques revealed that various sigmoid (S-shaped) curves, such as the
logistic, hyperbolic tan and Gompertz functions, and a power law provide
highly accurate fits to the data (correlation coefficient R > 0.998). The
simplest equation for practical application was found to be the following
power law equation:
Total lifted T = a - b*B ^(-c)
where B = bodymass and a, b and c are numerical constants.
For weightlifting data up to 1988, the values of the constants for adult
lifters are:
a = 512.245, b = 146230 and c = 1.605
The same power law equation applies accurately to powerlifting records (Siff,
1988).
For powerlifting data up to 1987, the values of the constants are:
Powerlifting Total: a = 1270.4, b = 172970, c = 1.3925
Powerlifting Squat: a = 638.01, b = 9517.7, c = 0.7911
Powerlifting Bench Press: a = 408.15, b = 11047, c = 0.9371
Powerlifting Deadlift: a = 433.14, b = 493825, c = 1.9712
To compare the performances of lifters of different bodymass, simply
substitute each lifter's bodymass in the relevant equations above to
calculate the Total (or lift) expected for a top world class lifter. Then
divide the each lifter's actual Total by this value and multiply by 100 to
obtain the percentage of the world class lift achieved by each lifter. This
method is also useful for monitoring the progress of an athlete whose lifts
and bodymass increase over a period of time, because it is pointless to do so
by referring simply to the increase in absolute mass lifted if the athlete's
bodymass has changed significantly.
The following websites discuss the application of several formulae for
comparing weightlifting and powerlifting performances, with some of the
details of the equations from "Supertraining" (Ch 3.3.5). The last quoted
website allows you to automatically calculate several bodymass corrected
Totals.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/8682/formulas.htm
http://www.isu.edu/~andesean/wform.htm
http://www.qwa.org/stats/pwrrankings.asp
Similar formulae for strength comparison of women and juveniles appear in
"Supertraining" (some details of this book, including its Contents, are on
this website: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/8682/siff.htm).
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Bodyweight and Age Formulas
by Tony Dziepak October 1998
The question often arises who is the strongest lifter pound-for-pound? Well, the simplest way to answer this would be to divide the lifter's total by his/her bodyweight. However, the relationship between bodyweight and ability to achieve the highest total weight lifted is not linear, so nonlinear formulas are used to compare the performances of lifters across bodyweights.
The best formulas to use are the Siff formulas. For Weightlifting, the formula is:
Total=a-b*B^(-c), where B is bodymass in kg, a = 512.245, b = 146230 and c = 1.605.
For Powerlifting, the same equation applies, but the constants are: a=1270.4, b=172970, c=1.3925.
For women's weightlifting:
Total=c-a*exp(-b*B), where B is bodymass in kg, a=943.063, b=0.05142 and c=257.314.
To compare the performances of lifters of different bodymass, simply substitute each lifter's bodymass in the relevant equations above to calculate the Total (or lift) expected for a top world class lifter. Then divide each lifter's actual Total by this value and multiply by 100 to obtain the percentage of the world class lift achieved by each lifter.
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Currently, the more commonly used formulas in weightlifting are the Sinclair formulas. They have been formulated by Roy Sinclair since at least 1984 and updated every four years (for men) and at least since 1996 for women.
The 1996 formula is: 10^(a(x^2)), where a=1.348196177 (men), =1.016281142 (women), and x=log(w/135.39) (men) =log(w/110.69) (women), where w=bodyweight. The formula is used for athletes less than or equal to 135.39kg (men) 110.69kg (women) bodyweight. For athletes greater than this bodyweight, the coefficient is 1.
Powerlifting has similar formulas: the Schwartz formula was the original; later, the Malone formula was formulated for women. Currently, the Wilks formula is most commonly used for both men and women.
The Malone-Meltzer coefficients are used to compare totals of masters lifters of different ages. Track and field has similar age-grading formulas for each event.
The Siff and Malone-Meltzer formulas are given in formulas.xls, a Microsoft Excel file. I have also superimposed Siff isocurves onto my chart of absolute records.
So to determine who is the most efficient lifter, or who lifts the most pound-for-pound, one would find the tangency of a ray from the origin to the Siff isocurves. This occurs at a bodyweight of about 62kg for men and 50kg for women. This defines the most efficient bodyweight, given the current pool of lifters. Heavier athletes lift more, but an additional kilogram of bodyweight generally returns less than additional kilogram to the total.
Of course, this does not mean that the most efficient bodyweight for all individual men is 61kg. That depends upon the individual's characteristics--most notably frame. When one is lower than their ideal bodyweight, their bone mass is a greater percentage of their muscle mass, and the bone-muscle system is less efficient. In general, the most efficient weight class (men and women) is the second heaviest.
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Opinion
Sinclair formula: My major criticism of the Sinclair formula is that the coefficients are the same for athletes above 135.39 kg of bodyweight. Therefore, two athletes that total 400 kg, one weighing 135.4 and one weighting 170, would score identical. I believe the better lifter in this case is the more efficient lifter: the lighter one.
So a tiebreaker rule might be that the lighter lifter is ranked ahead of the heavier lifter. But this is exactly what the Sinclair formula is supposed to do. The Siff formulas are upward-sloping for all bodyweights. Furthermore, the Siff formulas are not piecewise.
Malone-Meltzer coefficients: The current table of coefficients are not generated by a formula. Therefore, a plot of the coefficients and isocurves produces a wavy line with many inflection points.
Solution: reduce the number of inflection points to one to produce a smooth S-curve. My proposed values are given in the Excel chart. In addition, to extend the chart, the coefficients should increase by 0.02 for every year above the age of 90.
Also, when the next Malone-Meltzer update is done, I suggest separate tables for men and women. Men and women may have different rates of physical decline at various age ranges.
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Formula Competition
The following describes the procedure for conducting a formula competition (as opposed to a standard weight class competition): This is useful in small meets, where there would be only one or two entrants in some weight classes.
First, athletes weigh in one time between two and one hours before the competition. (There are no extra weigh-ins to make a certain weight class.) After last weigh in, all lifter's weights are revealed. Then athletes declare their opening attempts. (Throughout the competition, athletes may adjust declared attempts upward.) Competition ascends by formula applied to the snatch; bar weight must be increments of 2.5kg. In the jerk, competition ascends by formula applied to the jerk (or alternatively applied to the total). Bar weight must be increments of 2.5kg.
Example: four lifters weigh in at:
bwt opening att Siff value
A 60.00 70 .227604
B 67.69 82.5 .240124
C 84.40 97.5 .247543
D 94.00 95 .230210
The starting order is A-D-B-C. However, if lifter A takes second attempt at 75, this is worth .243861, so lifter A will take second attempt before lifter C takes first attempt.
If lifter A makes 75 on second attempt, Lifter D will then have to lift 102.5 to surpass lifter A.
Also, the Siff value and the Malone-Meltzer coefficients can be multiplied to make an age-handicap, bodyweight-handicap combination competition.
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References and links:
Meltzer, David E. (1994) "Age dependence of Olympic weightlifting ability" Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise 1053-67.
Meltzer, David E. (1996) "Body-mass dependence of age-related deterioration in human muscular fuinction" American Physiological Society 0161-7567, 1149-55.
Siff, Mel C. & Verkhoshansky "Supertraining" 1998, Ch 3.3.
The Evolution of Bodymass Adjustment by Mel Siff
More on the Wilks Formula by Sean Anderson
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3rd time I am calling bullshit
Still dont want to make a bet huh?
Thought so.
You really are a luaghing stock here and over on ironage
I tell you, as someone who has competed for many many years in powerlifting and who knows an awful lot of VERY strong guys, TA is full of shit about this 600 lb deadlift. At 240 lbs he looked soft. His traps were non existent: those puny traps did not pull even 400, I bet. Not that size means everything, but I think you get my point...
As for the 20 inch arms, I know a couple guys with arms slightly over 20. And they aren't fat either. And TA's arms are NOT 20 inch arms.
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Are ants incredibly super strong? Would they be able to toss trucks around like volley balls if they were our size? What if we could shrink down to ant size? Say about 6.4 millimeters (1/4 of an inch for the metrically challenged) tall? How strong would we be compared to the mighty ant?
And while we're at it, wasn't there always some little guy in PE class that could do 200 pushups and 30 pullups? The big guys, even the strong fast athletic big guys, just aren't usually the pull-up champions, are they? It's almost always the small guys.
It's true for world class weight lifters too. The smaller people usually lift more with respect to their weight than the big people. It's not better muscles, or a more determined attitude, that helps the little guys, it's just geometry and the way muscles work.
So basicly you avoid it and try to ake excuses for you being so weak and small.
BTW you obviously know very litle about anything you talk about by this post.
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How can you post here when everybody is laughing at you Adam?
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I tell you, as someone who has competed for many many years in powerlifting and who knows an awful lot of VERY strong guys, TA is full of shit about this 600 lb deadlift. At 240 lbs he looked soft. His traps were non existent: those puny traps did not pull even 400, I bet. Not that size means everything, but I think you get my point...
As for the 20 inch arms, I know a couple guys with arms slightly over 20. And they aren't fat either. And TA's arms are NOT 20 inch arms.
hahhahahah OWNED
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hahhahahah OWNED
sweet shirt ::) Which one of these should I wear to the gym?
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:) Owning are great.
I am stronger by every single formula known to man regarding weightlifting now compared to when I was fatty.
I love it.
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hahhahahah OWNED
That bar is not bending at all for 600 bring on it.
Those 3 plates in the centre are fake.
you do not have 20 inch arms in that foto more 16-17
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That bar is not bending at all for 600 bring on it.
Those 3 plates in the centre are fake.
you do not have 20 inch arms in that foto more 16-17
Exactly, you would see some bar bend. Plus TA your forearms, puny though they are, would be flared more than they are with that kind of weight. And you're not using a belt, yet you use straps for a max attempt? LMAO. At least if you're going to use fake plates, MAKE IT LOOK REAL. LMAO this is hilarious. I've competed for years in PLing and have even judged a few sanctioned comps, and believe me dude, I see right through this. Sorry, but you're full of shit.
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Exactly, you would see some bar bend. Plus TA your forearms, puny though they are, would be flared more than they are with that kind of weight. And you're not using a belt, yet you use straps for a max attempt? LMAO. At least if you're going to use fake plates, MAKE IT LOOK REAL. LMAO this is hilarious. I've competed for years in PLing and have even judged a few sanctioned comps, and believe me dude, I see right through this. Sorry, but you're full of shit.
hahhah You are owning yourself really bad.
I love it.
You never knew of my deadlifting feats, did ya?
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BTW TA, brutal 14 inch biceps. :P
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hahhah You are owning yourself really bad.
I love it.
You never knew of my deadlifting feats, did ya?
Look kid, I laugh at most of what you write. Frankly I think you are just here to troll, and that's it. But I have been around the block a few times PLing wise and I know bullshit when I see it. And this is it.
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Looks like the gym is closed too.
That bar is not bending one inch
I thought people wore belts when maxing out.
Those 3 centre plates do not match up.
You do NOT jave the forearms to pull that kind of weight.
I am callin bullshit for the 4th time.
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That bar is not bending at all for 600 bring on it.
valid observation. :)
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valid observation. :)
the bars never bend in the cartoons either
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isn't that 520?
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You know what's sad is, this guy goes to such great lengths (uses fake plates, hires girls to pose as his gf, etc) to impress people ONLINE. LMAO
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Here is 600.
I had to do it twice since the fag at the front desk didnt get it the first time.
He only got my face the second time.
But here it is.
That is 525 Danielson right there. I was doing that for reps last November...I have pics of me posing by the weight...before I lifted it...I will post those...hahhahhaah
Fake plates....The jealousy never ends....hahhahhahah
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You know what's sad is, this guy goes to such great lengths (uses fake plates, hires girls to pose as his gf, etc) to impress people ONLINE. LMAO
And he still gets shitted on by everyone here
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You know what's sad is, this guy goes to such great lengths (uses fake plates, hires girls to pose as his gf, etc) to impress people ONLINE. LMAO
What is REALLY sad is that you justify everything I PROVE as fake because you cannot match me in anything.
hahahahahahahah
I love it....Don`t you think it would be harder to fake it then to actually be it or do it?
You are a joke and I have systematically destroyed you everytime as well as anyone who EVER doubts me.
I love it. hahhahah
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LMAO!!!! TA do you seriously have a shirt with your screen name from GB on it?!?
Seriously, why would you do something like that?
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Its all physics my boy.
Simple as that.
enought already with all this physics talk.
you never talked that way before and its obvious that you just enrolled in physics 101 at your local community college.
ever see that movie the program. omar epps tries to use all these big words, but actually makes him look more stupid. very similar to you and talk about levers, spped, distance, etc.
also, what is this proportionate strength shit? you can either lift it or not.
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LMAO!!!! TA do you seriously have a shirt with your screen name from GB on it?!?
Seriously, why would you do something like that?
TO PROVE it was me doing the weight.
hahhahhahah They are so dumb you have to spell it out for them.
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enought already with all this physics talk.
you never talked that way before and its obvious that you just enrolled in physics 101 at your local community college.
ever see that movie the program. omar epps tries to use all these big words, but actually makes him look more stupid. very similar to you and talk about levers, spped, distance, etc.
also, what is this proportionate strength shit? you can either lift it or not.
anybody can copy and paste equations......I don't know if he knows physics or not but all the shit he's posted before has been copied and pasted, all you have to do is search for center of mass and I'm sure you could find something similar to what he posted last week. If he knows it great but I still don't think you can simply apply physics without considering kinseology-sp-, the human body is not a machine and will not react like one for the most part....
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anybody can copy and paste equations......I don't know if he knows physics or not but all the shit he's posted before has been copied and pasted, all you have to do is search for center of mass and I'm sure you could find something similar to what he posted last week. If he knows it great but I still don't think you can simply apply physics without considering kinseology-sp-, the human body is not a machine and will not react like one for the most part....
Of course I am going to copy and paste certain articles.
I am at work and don`t have time to type and re-type and proofread 30,000 word articles. hahahahahah
But they all are good articles and apply nicely.
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TO PROVE it was me doing the weight.
hahhahhahah They are so dumb you have to spell it out for them.
So let me get this straight --- you went out, bought a long sleeve T-shirt, had it printed with a logo and design with your GB name on it, wore it to the gym and set up a camera to take a picture of you DL TO PROVE to all of us that it was you doing it??
AHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHA talk about the self-owning of a lifetime!!! Who cares what weight you lifted, you're WEARING A SHIRT YOU MADE OF YOURSELF FOR THE GYM!!
Legendary toolness...
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Of course I am going to copy and paste certain articles.
I am at work and don`t have time to type and re-type and proofread 30,000 word articles. hahahahahah
But they all are good articles and apply nicely.
why do all tht if you know this stuff. You should be able to explain it in a few paragraphs...why paste 30,000 words....like anybody who has no knowledge of physics is going to be able to read, understand and apply that anyways. It's like me copying and pasting solutions to Quadratic equations....nobody but a select few are gonna get it so why waste my time, it's just you trying to be all high and might. Just another example of you trying to look smarter than you are. Plain and simple.
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why do all tht if you know this stuff. You should be able to explain it in a few paragraphs...why paste 30,000 words....like anybody who has no knowledge of physics is going to be able to read, understand and apply that anyways. It's like me copying and pasting solutions to Quadratic equations....nobody but a select few are gonna get it so why waste my time, it's just you trying to be all high and might. Just another example of you trying to look smarter than you are. Plain and simple.
I guess I am not like everyone else.
I would rather read the actual article.
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I guess I am not like everyone else.
I would rather read the actual article.
hey retardonis can you show us a a couple pics of you actually moving it from the floor at about a height of 6 inch from the floor just below you knees and one slightly above it, ANY homo can just pick that from a rack and hold it!!
you must be the laughing stock of you him hug?
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I guess I am not like everyone else.
I would rather read the actual article.
that's fine but that's not why you posted them. You posted them so everybody would say "wow TA is really smart". Who in thier right mind would copy and past a 30,000 word physics essay onto a BB message board??? C'mon use some common sesne, how many people w/o prior physics knowledge would get anything from that? If you can read a 30,000 word essay and apply that stuff right afterwords...or understand it you should not be posting on a BB board.
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Why is it that nearly every picture that TA posts is suspect? Look at these two pictures, they prove nothing. The face isn't even shown in either picture, it could be anyone in the picture, not to mention the first picture is so blurry that even if the face were shown we wouldn't be able to tell if it is TA.
Oh, and I love the excuse that the picture was screwed up by the front desk dude so he took another one and screwed that one up too. ::)
TA is full of more bullschit stories than anyone I've ever come across, it's somewhat sad.
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Why is it that nearly every picture that TA posts is suspect? Look at these two pictures, they prove nothing. The face isn't even shown in either picture, it could be anyone in the picture, not to mention the first picture is so blurry that even if the face were shown we wouldn't be able to tell if it is TA.
Oh, and I love the excuse that the picture was screwed up by the front desk dude so he took another one and screwed that one up too. ::)
TA is full of more bullschit stories than anyone I've ever come across, it's somewhat sad.
I want to see him pickin it from the floor up9(i.e a couple mtoion shots) not just holding it up right pos, anyone can do that!!
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So let me get this straight --- you went out, bought a long sleeve T-shirt, had it printed with a logo and design with your GB name on it, wore it to the gym and set up a camera to take a picture of you DL TO PROVE to all of us that it was you doing it??
AHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHA talk about the self-owning of a lifetime!!! Who cares what weight you lifted, you're WEARING A SHIRT YOU MADE OF YOURSELF FOR THE GYM!!
Legendary toolness...
Its nothing new.
TA is the internet toilet.
Everyone shits all over him.
If you want a good laugh head on over to ironage.He got like 30 posts and already he is a laughing stock over there.
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hey retardonis can you show us a a couple pics of you actually moving it from the floor at about a height of 6 inch from the floor just below you knees and one slightly above it, ANY homo can just pick that from a rack and hold it!!
you must be the laughing stock of you him hug?
You can see the rack a full couple feet and to the right. I will look at home what I got.
IT is clear that I can deadlift a good amount of weight.
I am going to video the 100 rep with 225 as soon as I feel up to doing it it. I am doing my gravity workouts and experimenting so I do not know when I will do this.....Pretty soon though.
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Why is it that nearly every picture that TA posts is suspect? Look at these two pictures, they prove nothing. The face isn't even shown in either picture, it could be anyone in the picture, not to mention the first picture is so blurry that even if the face were shown we wouldn't be able to tell if it is TA.
Oh, and I love the excuse that the picture was screwed up by the front desk dude so he took another one and screwed that one up too. ::)
TA is full of more bullschit stories than anyone I've ever come across, it's somewhat sad.
I will prove it is me when I get home as I have a straight on shot of this very day where I am smiling.
hahaha, No wonder you guys are of average and below intelligence. Even with proof you still like to go with lies and create fantasy.
Its the same people that put Bush in the Whitehouse and still think there is an invisible man in the sky watching everything.
One day you guys will learn.
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Why would I pick up the weight and then walk backwards a few feet and to the right? Look where the rack is....
hahhahahhaha Why would I walk backwards and diagonal with 525 lbs?
If that was the case, then that is certainly harder than any deadlift.
hahhahahahah
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This is a hilarious thread! By the way, I can deadlift 2000lbs for 65. I will videotape it tomorrow ;D
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I am going to video the 100 rep with 225 as soon as I feel up to doing it it. I am doing my gravity workouts and experimenting so I do not know when I will do this.....Pretty soon though.
This is another thing TA is famous for, everything is going to happen soon. Just don't hold your breath.
TA do you realize the "soon" excuse doesn't work don't you? This fool has more big announcements, breakthrough workout ideas and revolutionary diet strategies coming soon than your local movie theater has coming attractions.
Oh, and I love the gravity workout line. LOL
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This is another thing TA is famous for, everything is going to happen soon. Just don't hold your breath.
TA do you realize the "soon" excuse doesn't work don't you? This fool has more big announcements, breakthrough workout ideas and revolutionary diet strategies coming soon than your local movie theater has coming attractions.
Oh, and I love the gravity workout line. LOL
I have proved all of my claims 20 times over.
YOU have never posted a pic or proved anything.
I win, you lose, simple as that.
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I have proved all of my claims 20 times over.
Yes, yes of course you have.
In some weird parallel universe where not proving your claims is actually proving your claims. You're like something out of a Philip K. Dick novel.
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I have proved all of my claims 20 times over.
YOU have never posted a pic or proved anything.
I win, you lose, simple as that.
win at what? being king of bullshitting on an internet BB message board...you WOULD be proud of that. Problem is your being torn up in this thread you're just too blind to see it.
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win at what? being king of bullshitting on an internet BB message board...you WOULD be proud of that. Problem is your being torn up in this thread you're just too blind to see it.
Nonsense.
I have just PROVEN anyone doubting my deadlifing strength.
You can`t even muster the courage to post a picture.
hahahahh. I love proving the lesser intelligent ones wrong...It gets them in a little hissy fit.
I have exposed everyones stupidity and they hate themselves for it, so they try to misdirect their anger. Kind of like you do AL.
hahahahaha
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Where has the squad been through all of this?
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i'll go to TA's gym and video/photograph whatever lift he wants to do...
i'd personally like to see the 225 DL for 100 reps...
i live in the area so it's no biggie, right?
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Where has the squad been through all of this?
TA hasn't had time to log off and log back on as one of them.....
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i'll go to TA's gym and video/photograph whatever lift he wants to do...
i'd personally like to see the 225 DL for 100 reps...
i live in the area so it's no biggie, right?
you lucky bastard, I wish I live in his area too
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you lucky bastard, I wish I live in his area too
why, he has a girlfriend ;D
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TA hasn't had time to log off and log back on as one of them.....
hahaha, yes!!! Are you saying, ..... I can't even bring myself to type this kind of crap.
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why, he has a girlfriend ;D
Jezebelle used to actually work with Wood as a personal trainer.
There goes the fake girlfriend theory.hahhahah
Add that to the pics of us too.
hahhah
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Jezebelle used to actually work with Wood as a personal trainer.
There goes the fake girlfriend theory.hahhahah
Add that to the pics of us too.
hahhah
she used to eat Taco Bell back then too ;D
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why, he has a girlfriend ;D
i would make for tham sure I'l be in his gym every time he is in there! now that is got to be fun?
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Jezebelle used to actually work with Wood as a personal trainer.
There goes the fake girlfriend theory.hahhahah
Add that to the pics of us too.
hahhah
Thanks Sarcasm
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This is one of the funniest threads ever. Can't you guys see TA is just fucking with you. Guaranteed he ishome laughing his ass off cause so many guys are reacting to his posts. Everything is relative, including the sex. Cause most of it is done with relatives.
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On the planet Zeenod.......
Adonis Dead Lifted 5400 pounds even though the gravitational pull was offset by the interstellar moon alignment.
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This is one of the funniest threads ever. Can't you guys see TA is just fucking with you. Guaranteed he ishome laughing his ass off cause so many guys are reacting to his posts. Everything is relative, including the sex. Cause most of it is done with relatives.
;D
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she used to eat Taco Bell back then too ;D
tell us more about her?
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This is one of the funniest threads ever. Can't you guys see TA is just fucking with you. Guaranteed he ishome laughing his ass off cause so many guys are reacting to his posts. Everything is relative, including the sex. Cause most of it is done with relatives.
You hit the nail on the head, as I just pointed out in another thread. TA is one fine troll. He knows his craft well.
BTW, adam can you log in under the sarcasm handle and contribute to this thread? We miss the "big" guy.
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Jezebelle used to actually work with Wood as a personal trainer.
There goes the fake girlfriend theory.hahhahah
Add that to the pics of us too.
hahhah
Did you make your payment to Jezzebelle this week? You know she won't pretend she's your girlfriend if your payments aren't on time.
Any big announcements coming this week? Perhaps you've created a new energy supply to solve the worlds growing energy needs. And you know the trouble we're going to have with regards to the internal combustion engine and fossil fuels in the future, I know you can solve the problem. I'll be awaiting your breakthrough announcement shortly.
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she used to eat Taco Bell back then too ;D
hahh yah.
She has been REALLY instrumental in The Adonis Principles.
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Did you make your payment to Jezzebelle this week? You know she won't pretend she's your girlfriend if your payments aren't on time.
Any big announcements coming this week? Perhaps you've created a new energy supply to solve the worlds growing energy needs. And you know the trouble we're going to have with regards to the internal combustion engine and fossil fuels in the future, I know you can solve the problem. I'll be awaiting your breakthrough announcement shortly.
Convert your diesel fuel car to vegetable oil and your problems are solved. :)
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This is one of the funniest threads ever. Can't you guys see TA is just fucking with you. Guaranteed he ishome laughing his ass off cause so many guys are reacting to his posts. Everything is relative, including the sex. Cause most of it is done with relatives.
Did you mention inbreeding?
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tell us more about her?
what do you want to know? we worked together for a couple months but then i became the GM of another gyms personal training service and her ex-boyfriend worked for me as a trainer. she was always in great shape and i never heard any negative feedback from her clients. she's extremely intelligent too...quite the catch for TA.
anything more personal and you'll need to ask someone else.
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Did you mention inbreeding?
I am reminded of the movie Planet of the Apes.
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what do you want to know? we worked together for a couple months but then i became the GM of another gyms personal training service and her ex-boyfriend worked for me as a trainer. she was always in great shape and i never heard any negative feedback from her clients. she's extremely intelligent too...quite the catch for TA.
anything more personal and you'll need to ask someone else.
Is she really a man?
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i would make for tham sure I'l be in his gym every time he is in there! now that is got to be fun?
we don't work out at the same gym. i'm not sure where he's training these days.
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she used to eat Taco Bell back then too ;D
She was telling me that you guys would always be like,
"What the hell are you doing??????? Eating that."
Hhahahah Do you remember that guy that acted as the manager before Chris(snapper), said he used to lift with Ed Coan.....Guy was strange.
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what do you want to know? we worked together for a couple months but then i became the GM of another gyms personal training service and her ex-boyfriend worked for me as a trainer. she was always in great shape and i never heard any negative feedback from her clients. she's extremely intelligent too...quite the catch for TA.
anything more personal and you'll need to ask someone else.
what about TA?
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Is she really a man?
::) jealousy and envy are obvious here.
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we don't work out at the same gym. i'm not sure where he's training these days.
If I get my way, I will just wear my gravity suit and live at Carowinds Harnessing the power of the G-Force.
hahahahahah
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She was telling me that you guys would always be like,
"What the hell are you doing??????? Eating that."
Hhahahah Do you remember that guy that acted as the manager before Chris(snapper), said he used to lift with Ed Coan.....Guy was strange.
yep, it surprised me to see her eat that way yet maintain a great physique. i was a former fat-ass so it didn't make sense to me at all, especially when i was preaching proper nutrition to my clients.
nope, i must have gotten there shortly after that. i do remember the manager after Snapper though, James, the one that played pro football briefly, i think for the Jaguars?
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She was telling me that you guys would always be like,
"What the hell are you doing??????? Eating that."
Hhahahah Do you remember that guy that acted as the manager before Chris(snapper), said he used to lift with Ed Coan.....Guy was strange.
Pretending to reminise = Obvious attempt at trying to prove she exists
Adonis/Sarcasm/Jezeblle Try again
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yep, it surprised me to see her eat that way yet maintain a great physique. i was a former fat-ass so it didn't make sense to me at all, especially when i was preaching proper nutrition to my clients.
nope, i must have gotten there shortly after that. i do remember the manager after Snapper though, James, the one that played pro football briefly, i think for the Jaguars?
I used to challenge James to deadlift contests. He was able to muster up a 405 Sumo. He told me personally that the lifting stats of all Pro Football players are a joke. And that only like 2 or 3 people that played for Jacksonville Jaguars when he played, benched 405. They were lineman who weighed 300lbs!
James was a good dude though. Hung out with him a lot. Remember Jason, really cut dude....He was a good dude too. We put on the boxing gloves once and I knocked him clean out with a patented Adonis Left Hook.
Good old Gold`s gym days.
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what about TA?
what about him? he worked at the gym b/f i got there but continued to lift there, mostly late in the evenings and always heavy.
oh, and i also worked part-time at GNC and occasionally he'd come in but all he'd ever buy was whey, nothing else.
why is it so hard for you guys to believe this guy. if i go video him lifting, will that make you happy?
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::) jealousy and envy are obvious here.
Hello, TA gimmick account #49
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Pretending to reminise = Obvious attempt at trying to prove she exists
Adonis/Sarcasm/Jezeblle Try again
uh, no...Chris (Snapper) Grubbs went to an opposing high school as i did and we played basketball against each other. true story...
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what about him? he worked at the gym b/f i got there but continued to lift there, mostly late in the evenings and always heavy.
oh, and i also worked part-time at GNC and occasionally he'd come in but all he'd ever buy was whey, nothing else.
why is it so hard for you guys to believe this guy. if i go video him lifting, will that make you happy?
No more whey anymore for me now!
You guys did have some good deals though!
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I used to challenge James to deadlift contests. He was able to muster up a 405 Sumo. He told me personally that the lifting stats of all Pro Football players are a joke. And that only like 2 or 3 people that played for Jacksonville Jaguars when he played, benched 405. They were lineman who weighed 300lbs!
James was a good dude though. Hung out with him a lot. Remember Jason, really cut dude....He was a good dude too. We put on the boxing gloves once and I knocked him clean out with a patented Adonis Left Hook.
Good old Gold`s gym days.
yep, James was a good dude. Jason, on the other hand, ahaha...that was a piece of work! i remember Brian, the morning guy, opening the gym one morning and finding Jason and some skank he'd brought back from a club...they had used the nasty couch in the day care as a playground...hahahha....
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LOL, and I thought it was pathetic when TA would carry on conversations between himself when sarcasm was in a thread...this is TRULY epic... lol
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Hello, TA gimmick account #49
now why the fvck would Mindspin/Ron give me competitor stars if i were a gimmick???
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now why the fvck would Mindspin/Ron give me competitor stars if i were a gimmick???
Why don't YOU tell US that...
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Why don't YOU tell US that...
well, let's see. in order to get the stars you have to actually prove you competed with pictures, links to photos, etc...
Also, i don't have anything to prove here. i don't proclaim to be huge or lift heavy.
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now why the fvck would Mindspin/Ron give me competitor stars if i were a gimmick???
and BTW...meltdown
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and BTW...meltdown
haha....my first :D
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haha....my first :D
monster attempt at backtracking and pretending like you didn't just own yourself, lol!
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monster attempt at backtracking and pretending like you didn't just own yourself, lol!
lol...fvcktard. care to explain? i owned myself how???
video of TA lifting will be all the owning material needed for you...
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what about him? he worked at the gym b/f i got there but continued to lift there, mostly late in the evenings and always heavy.
oh, and i also worked part-time at GNC and occasionally he'd come in but all he'd ever buy was whey, nothing else.
why is it so hard for you guys to believe this guy. if i go video him lifting, will that make you happy?
sure dude , and the why have you read some of his post?
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sure dude , and the why ahve you read some of his post?
rico, no habla espanol...can you translate?
"the why ahve you read "
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lol...fvcktard. care to explain? i owned myself how???
video of TA lifting will be all the owning material needed for you...
This time I will make sure he does not use fake plates
LOL
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LOL
don't worry, I'll keep him honest on the weight...
how do you want me to confirm that the plates aren't fake?
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yep, James was a good dude. Jason, on the other hand, ahaha...that was a piece of work! i remember Brian, the morning guy, opening the gym one morning and finding Jason and some skank he'd brought back from a club...they had used the nasty couch in the day care as a playground...hahahha....
hahahahah damn!
Jason was crazy....He was lean though and pretty strong. Man I stayed fat in those days, I`d say around 30-40 percent bodyfat...Everyone thought it was muscle though. hahhah
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don't worry, I'll keep him honest on the weight...
how do you want me to confirm that the plates aren't fake?
Weigh them on a scale and then put them on the bar I imagine. hahhaa
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don't worry, I'll keep him honest on the weight...
how do you want me to confirm that the plates aren't fake?
You can start by stopping talking to yourself
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hahahahah damn!
Jason was crazy....He was lean though and pretty strong. Man I stayed fat in those days, I`d say around 30-40 percent bodyfat...Everyone thought it was muscle though. hahhah
Jason was a showboat and the last time i saw him he acted stoned out of his mind ;D
yep, those big shirts had everyone fooled, including yourself...lol
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Weigh them on a scale and then put them on the bar I imagine. hahhaa
sounds like a plan unless i hear otherwise from the peanut gallery ::)
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You can start by stopping talking to yourself
hi joey 8)
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Jason was a showboat and the last time i saw him he acted stoned out of his mind ;D
yep, those big shirts had everyone fooled, including yourself...lol
I heard he gave up his natural status but that is probably hearsay. I know he went to China for a while for work and then came back and got married.
When did you last see him?
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rico, no habla espanol...can you translate?
"the why ahve you read "
sure : tu y adonis son una sola persona
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I heard he gave up his natural status but that is probably hearsay. I know he went to China for a while for work and then came back and got married.
When did you last see him?
oh that was several years ago, '03 probably. i think he had just gotten back from China, didn't know he got married though so maybe he's settled down a bit.
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hey wood have you competed with ADONIS "Gravity suit "
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sounds like a plan unless i hear otherwise from the peanut gallery ::)
You being there is evidence good enough for me.
I'll take your word for it. If you can get a video clip or even just some photos, great.
But even just your word will be enough for me.
I fully respect others that may want more evidence, but I will put my trust in you buddy.
I believe you will make sure everything is right.
YIP
Zack
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hey wood have you competed with ADONIS "Gravity suit "
i actually have no idea where he's going with that one, but i do know that Carowinds is about 2.5 hrs. away, that's not a practical workout facility ;D
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oh that was several years ago, '03 probably. i think he had just gotten back from China, didn't know he got married though so maybe he's settled down a bit.
He quit that Furniture job and is doing something locally I think.
Yah I think he settled down...Todd and all of them were not good for him hahhah.....
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You being there is evidence good enough for me.
I'll take your word for it. If you can get a video clip or even just some photos, great.
But even just your word will be enough for me.
I fully respect others that may want more evidence, but I will put my trust in you buddy.
I believe you will make sure everything is right.
YIP
Zack
so can you confirm that i'm not a gimmick account ala: TA?
i won't disappoint you on the vid/photos...he just has to let me know when/where.
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He quit that Furniture job and is doing something locally I think.
Yah I think he settled down...Todd and all of them were not good for him hahhah.....
good for him, he was a good dude but like you said, got around the wrong crowd...Todd...lol what a waste of potential there.
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To equal a 600 lbs deadlift at my current bodyweight, All I have to do is deadlift 410 lbs.
How do you like that?
So in reality, If I do 500 now, which I can, I should be doing 731 lbs at my previous bodyweight.
Now you are starting to see it!
Ta, I love ya man, but if you can pull this one off without getting raped, I will be mildy surprised LOL
;)
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i actually have no idea where he's going with that one, but i do know that Carowinds is about 2.5 hrs. away, that's not a practical workout facility ;D
hahhaha yah.
This is going to require more research. In theory it is certainly viable. Designing and building a working suit is the difficult part. I am intrigued by new ideas constantly no matter how absurd they sound!
But I have been able to duplicate Different G-Forces using existing gym equipment. When I get some time I need to sit and calculate a total routine just based on G-Force.
Those are the equations I want to post and will post so anyone who wants to have a go at it, will be able to.
So far it is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT but on other side of the coin EXTREMELY EFFICIENT.
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hahhahahah OWNED
first of all that is 510. Not 525. 5 plates a five and a 2.5 pound plate is 510. Second of all you have straps on. Third of all the pic with 600 is blurry and if you really could deadlift 600 you would have done it again and showed a clear picture. Fourth of all, fuck off.
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hahhaha yah.
This is going to require more research. In theory it is certainly viable. Designing and building a working suit is the difficult part. I am intrigued by new ideas constantly no matter how absurd they sound!
But I have been able to duplicate Different G-Forces using existing gym equipment. When I get some time I need to sit and calculate a total routine just based on G-Force.
Those are the equations I want to post and will post so anyone who wants to have a go at it, will be able to.
So far it is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT but on other side of the coin EXTREMELY EFFICIENT.
you really are crazy, ya know ;D
on the other hand, i farted :o
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first of all that is 510. Not 525. 5 plates a five and a 2.5 pound plate is 510. Second of all you have straps on. Third of all the pic with 600 is blurry and if you really could deadlift 600 you would have done it again and showed a clear picture. Fourth of all, f**k off.
First off it is 525.
Second I do have straps on but they make no difference. They tend to save the skin on my hands and I do not like gloves. I can do the same weight without straps.
Third, I took 2 pictures of me deadlifting 600. I really didn`t care to take anymore pictures. Just like I have only about 120 pictures of my Lotus when I should have 10000. That was a cool car. See the idiocity of your statement?
Fourth. Back at ya.
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you really are crazy, ya know ;D
on the other hand, i farted :o
I have heard it many times from everyone!
hahahah like Doc Brown in Back to the Future. hahhaahah
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First off it is 525.
Second I do have straps on but they make no difference. They tend to save the skin on my hands and I do not like gloves. I can do the same weight without straps.
Third, I took 2 pictures of me deadlifting 600. I really didn`t care to take anymore pictures. Just like I have only about 120 pictures of my Lotus when I should have 10000. That was a cool car. See the idiocity of your statement?
Fourth. Back at ya.
Please tell me how 5 plates a 5 and a 2.5 equals 525. Straps make a huge difference if your grip is a hindrance which I imagine yours is.
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I have heard it many times from everyone!
hahahah like Doc Brown in Back to the Future. hahhaahah
Don't worry I'm sure Sarcasm/Jezebelle will support you ::)
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Please tell me how 5 plates a 5 and a 2.5 equals 525. Straps make a huge difference if your grip is a hindrance which I imagine yours is.
his is talking about a strap_on really
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Power-to-weight ratio (sometimes referred to as the more general Specific power) and its inverse weight-to-power ratio are measures commonly used when comparing various vehicles (or engines), including automobiles, motorcycles, aircraft, and armoured fighting vehicles. It is the power the engine generates, divided by the vehicle's (or engine) weight or vice versa:
Units are usually horsepower per tonne (hp/tonne - PtW) or kilograms per horsepower (kg/hp - WtP), although nowadays watts are used for power in most countries that adopted the metric system
The power-to-weight ratio is often used as an indication of likely performance. The larger the PtW (the smaller the WtP) the more performance can be expected. Vehicle weights have relatively little impact on top speed, which is mostly dependent on aerodynamic drag (see drag equation). Acceleration (a), on the other hand, is dominated by the Newtonian acceleration term, F = ma, so more force (F - from the engine's torque delivered to the driven wheels or thrust delivered by an aircraft engine), will deliver more acceleration for any given vehicle mass (m = weight/g).
In any vehicle the engine power-to-weight ratio is essential for vehicle power-to-weight ratio. But in an aircraft it is more critical than in any other vehicle because any additional weight requires more lift to be generated by the wings in order to lift it. More lift from the wings automatically means more drag, through a process known as induced drag, slowing the plane down. Thus if any two engines deliver the same power, the lighter one will result in a better plane. Power-to-weight ratio therefore has a much more important impact on overall performance in aircraft, including top speed.
In this usage the power-to-weight ratio is typically used to refer to the weight of the engine alone, as a useful way of comparing various aircraft engines. The term applying to the aircraft as a whole is power loading, and is used especially in helicopter engineering.
Power-to-weight ratio is also often used as a general indicator of the mobility of tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, usually expressed in horsepower per tonne (hp/t). Such vehicles, weighing up to seventy tons, must be able to achieve relatively high speeds quickly, while overcoming a great deal of inertia and mechanical resistance even on hard surfaces, and also travel at high speeds over soft ground and up steep slopes.
Boom! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-weight_ratio
Copying and pasting vaguely related wikipedia articles does not show that you have any knowledge of physics. Pretty much every physics related word you actually write yourself shows how little you know about physics. You are so full of shit it is amazing. You are either an incredibly self-deluded narcissist or are pretending to be one for some strange reason.
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so can you confirm that i'm not a gimmick account ala: TA?
I have no reason to not believe you. So I won't try to confirm anything. I'll just take your word for it.
i won't disappoint you on the vid/photos...he just has to let me know when/where.
225 lbs*100 would be an amazing feat to witness, and if you could get it on video, that would be awesome.
YIP
Zack
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Please tell me how 5 plates a 5 and a 2.5 equals 525. Straps make a huge difference if your grip is a hindrance which I imagine yours is.
IT is 2 10s and a 5`s.
Not 2.5s
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Boom! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-weight_ratio
Copying and pasting vaguely related wikipedia articles does not show that you have any knowledge of physics. Pretty much every physics related word you actually write yourself shows how little you know about physics. You are so full of shit it is amazing. You are either an incredibly self-deluded narcissist or are pretending to be one for some strange reason.
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IT is 2 10s and a 5`s.
Not 2.5s
Sorry pal, anyone who lifts weights in a regular gym knows that those little plates on the end are 2.5.
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Sorry pal, anyone who lifts weights in a regular gym knows that those little plates on the end are 2.5.
Well they aren`t.
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Boom! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-weight_ratio
Copying and pasting vaguely related wikipedia articles does not show that you have any knowledge of physics. Pretty much every physics related word you actually write yourself shows how little you know about physics. You are so full of shit it is amazing. You are either an incredibly self-deluded narcissist or are pretending to be one for some strange reason.
You've been owned TA. Maybe you should log on as sarcasm and make a lame comment
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2.5s are also referred to as "chips."
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Please tell me how 5 plates a 5 and a 2.5 equals 525. Straps make a huge difference if your grip is a hindrance which I imagine yours is.
It looks like two 10 pound weights and two 2.5 pound weights to me.
Those 10's look a little big to be 5's but I might be wrong.
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You've been owned TA. Maybe you should log on as sarcasm and make a lame comment
How so.
I already told Natural Al that I do not have time to type,retype and proofread 30,000 word documents that I could easily write while I am at work.
So of course I am going to cite wonderful sources. Plus they are very interesting to read and I hope I am able to teach you all something everyday!
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It looks like two 10 pound weights and two 2.5 pound weights to me.
Those 10's look a little big to be 5's but I might be wrong.
If you look at the black rings right above the fives, those are from the tens. Above that is the mark from the 25s etc.
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If you look at the black rings right above the fives, those are from the tens. Above that is the mark from the 25s etc.
I did look at those rings, and the rings just above could be the rings from the 25's and the ring above that one could be the ring from the 35's. It's hard to tell though. They just look a little too big to be 5's.
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I have proved all of my claims 20 times over.
YOU have never posted a pic or proved anything.
I win, you lose, simple as that.
No you haven't. And many of us have proved you wrong. And you still haven't admitted that you lied when I caught you lying and proved you wrong, which you said you would do. The simple fact is that however much you deadlift is how much you deadlift. Go to a powerlifting meet and try to explain to them that relatively speaking even though they lift more than you you're actually lifting more than them and ae stronger, I'm sure it will go over well.
And I find it funny that you would say "I win, you lose, simple as that." since you have demonstrated that you are not capable of comprehending that concept with your continued insistence that you won the MGB. Whateva won, you lost, simple as that ;D
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I did look at those rings, and the rings just above could be the rings from the 25's and the ring above that one could be the ring from the 35's. It's hard to tell though. They just look a little too big to be 5's.
Okay, lets say those are tens (even though I am positive they are fives). Thats 520 not 525. Even though its not a huge difference it still is not the weight he claims.
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Okay, lets say those are tens (even though I am positive they are fives). Thats 520 not 525. Even though its not a huge difference it still is not the weight he claims.
I never said TA was telling the truth, hell half those plates are probably fake. I'm just saying the second ones from the end look like 10's to me. That doesn't change the fact that TA is full of schit.
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Nonsense.
I have just PROVEN anyone doubting my deadlifing strength.
You can`t even muster the courage to post a picture.
hahahahh. I love proving the lesser intelligent ones wrong...It gets them in a little hissy fit.
I have exposed everyones stupidity and they hate themselves for it, so they try to misdirect their anger. Kind of like you do AL.
hahahahaha
anyone that uses the words 'hissy fit' either lives at home with his mom, or is a fag.
i think both apply equally to you.
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anyone that uses the words 'hissy fit' either lives at home with his mom, or is a fag.
i think both apply equally to you.
do you mean the words you just employed?
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How so.
I already told Natural Al that I do not have time to type,retype and proofread 30,000 word documents that I could easily write while I am at work.
That's write because you are too busy posting under your gimmick accounts sarcasm
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No you haven't. And many of us have proved you wrong. And you still haven't admitted that you lied when I caught you lying and proved you wrong, which you said you would do. The simple fact is that however much you deadlift is how much you deadlift. Go to a powerlifting meet and try to explain to them that relatively speaking even though they lift more than you you're actually lifting more than them and ae stronger, I'm sure it will go over well.
And I find it funny that you would say "I win, you lose, simple as that." since you have demonstrated that you are not capable of comprehending that concept with your continued insistence that you won the MGB. Whateva won, you lost, simple as that ;D
Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight. Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.
I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.
And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.
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Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight. Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.
I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.
And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.
TA, its as if some of these fuckwits have never grasped the concept of scoring on aggregate
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hahhahahah OWNED
a) You're using straps.
b) That is not 600 lbs.
c) You are at your top weight there not your current emaciated state.
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Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight. Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.
I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.
And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.
At a powerlifting meet, the weight you lift is the weight you lift. Yes, it is categorized by bodyweight. And you are ranked by the actual weight on the bar that you lifted, not by some calculation based on your height weight and astrological sign. You were saying that because you lifted x amount of weight you actually lifted y amount of weight. That is ridiculous. You might as well say "Since I DL 420 pounds at my height weight now, I actually DL the equivalent of 50,000 pounds if I was 70 feet tall". You lift what you lift and that's it. You DLed 420, not 700+. How hard is that to understand?
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a) You're using straps.
b) That is not 600 lbs.
c) You are at your top weight there not your current emaciated state.
TA you said on page 4 that you are actually stronger now at a lighter bodyweight.
I asked 3 times if you would like to make a bet now to see if could deadlift the same weight at your current weight and you have still not answered me
I wonder why?
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TA you said on page 4 that you are actually stronger now at a lighter bodyweight.
I asked 3 times if you would like to make a bet now to see if could deadlift the same weight at your current weight and you have still not answered me
I wonder why?
I already said HOW I am stronger.
You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,
175 lbs bench pressing 375.
You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.
The above applies to my current deadlift.
I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.
How dumb can you be?
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are you indirectly telling us that you weigh 175?
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I already said HOW I am stronger.
You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,
175 lbs bench pressing 375.
You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.
The above applies to my current deadlift.
I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.
How dumb can you be?
Hang on, thats the 'pound for pound' argument that the guys I hate at my gym use
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo!!!!!!
LOL
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I already said HOW I am stronger.
You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,
175 lbs bench pressing 375.
You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.
The above applies to my current deadlift.
I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.
How dumb can you be?
YOU TELL EM!
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are you indirectly telling us that you weigh 175?
I am trying to get the dumb fatsos to understand.
hahah They probably think that a 500 lb Sumo Wrestler who can bench press 485 is stronger than a 180 lb man bench pressing 350.
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If you lost no muscle mass, then you should be able to dl the same weight. Your fat wasn't exerting any strength on your deadlift. And talk about center of gravity all you want, you didn't have a huge distended gut, so your center of gravity is going to be based more on your height than anything else. If you are stronger you should be able to lift the same weight or more, not 180 pounds less.
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I am trying to get the dumb fatsos to understand.
hahah They probably think that a 500 lb Sumo Wrestler who can bench press 485 is stronger than a 180 lb man bench pressing 350.
Everyone here is so fat and stupid. I agree.
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If you lost no muscle mass, then you should be able to dl the same weight. Your fat wasn't exerting any strength on your deadlift. And talk about center of gravity all you want, you didn't have a huge distended gut, so your center of gravity is going to be based more on your height than anything else. If you are stronger you should be able to lift the same weight or more, not 180 pounds less.
That makes Zero sense.
Go back and re read the strength article I posted about body types.
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That makes Zero sense.
Go back and re read the strength article I posted about body types.
Yeah what gives El Spiko? Follow it to the letter too or you will be sorry.
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i guess you were on that boat too for a while TA. Remember "Natural beast approaching 20" arms" ?
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Adonis, you love to proclaim your intelligence yet you lack the writing skills to express your point properly.
Let me help you:
TA is trying to say that he is relatively stronger in his new emaciated state. The absolute loads he can now lift are less but his body weight is also less thus he claims to have an improved power to weight ratio. If at 240 lbs he could deadlift 600 lbs that was 2.5 lbs deadlifted for every pound of body weight. At his new weight of say 170 lbs if he could still muster a 500 lbs deadlift he would be deadlifting 2.9 lbs for every pound of body weight.
Now his powerlifting argument is just silly bcause what he fails to realize is that most guys in the lighter weight classes tend to be shorter not just skinny guys lifting a lot of weight. That same argument also disproves his "leverage" argument for the deadlift because there ARE some lighter guys who have tiny waists and can pull a shitload of weight.
Finally, if Adonis would ever care to drive a few hours to my area I would be more than happy to have a deadlift competition. Straps or no straps, reps or for a single.
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TA: "Jezze, my cock is really big...size doesn't matter, it is all relative"
Jezze: *shakes her in head with sadness*
TA: "never mind that 12' brother, my 3 inches are relatively bigger than his"
TA: "Look at it this way, if you multiply my size times 4 I would be 12 inches...see, I am big"
Jezze: *shakes her head and thinks...these German's are creative*
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Adonis, you love to proclaim your intelligence yet you lack the writing skills to express your point properly.
Let me help you:
TA is trying to say that he is relatively stronger in his new emaciated state. The absolute loads he can now lift are less but his body weight is also less thus he claims to have an improved power to weight ratio. If at 240 lbs he could deadlift 600 lbs that was 2.5 lbs deadlifted for every pound of body weight. At his new weight of say 170 lbs if he could still muster a 500 lbs deadlift he would be deadlifting 2.9 lbs for every pound of body weight.
Now his powerlifting argument is just silly bcause what he fails to realize is that most guys in the lighter weight classes tend to be shorter not just skinny guys lifting a lot of weight. That same argument also disproves his "leverage" argument for the deadlift because there ARE some lighter guys who have tiny waists and can pull a shitload of weight.
Finally, if Adonis would ever care to drive a few hours to my area I would be more than happy to have a deadlift competition. Straps or no straps, reps or for a single.
It does not disprove my "leverage" argument at all.
Take that same small person and increase their overall bodymass, waist and arm size and they will increase their lifts. Its simple.
Lifting has more to do with placement of joints and bones, angles and speed of reps and distance traveled.
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Adonis if you get stuck under a cement wall and the force necessary to lift it off is 400 pounds, who are you going to curse for being so lean and only able to lift half that?
'I could relatively do it but am too small.' -Adonis
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Millions of Americans get in their cars and head off to work every day. Generally, people think of work as somewhere to go (possibly get something accomplished) and go home with a pay check at the end of every week. But the physics concept of Work is much different. You might not realize it, but every time you weight lift you are actually performing work on the barbell.
By definition Work is the "transfer of energy by mechanical means". Work can be calculated by multiplying the amount of force (N) applied to the object by the distance (m) that the object moved.
W = F x d
Where work is measured in the Joule(J), force in Newtons(N), and distance in meters(m)
The unit of work is a Joule(J) which is named in honor of the physicist James Prescott Joule (1818 - 1889) who discovered that there was a link between heat and other forms of energy. One Joule is equal to one Newton-meter.
For example, if you are performing a hang clean, every time you push the bar upwards, it is accelerating against the force of gravity (Fg = 9.8m/s^2). Lets say that you started with the weight resting on the floor and raised it above your head to a final height of 6m above the ground - the distance the bar traveled is 6m up. If you pushed upwards on the weight with enough force to accelerate the bar 14.8m/s^2 upwards, the total acceleration of the bar would be (14.8m/s^2 up - 9.8m/s^2 down) 5m/s^2 in the upwards direction. If the bar had a mass of 10kg then the total amount of force that you applied to the bar would be 50N (Force is measured by the unit Newton(N), 1N = 1kg m/s^2). Now you can substitute those values into the equation W = F x d. Your final answer should be W = 300J (W = 50N x 6m).
In order to calculate the work that has gone into lifting your weights, you must first know how to calculate force. The force applied to an object is equal to the mass of the object times the objects acceleration.
Fa = m x a
You might be thinking 'well that sounds simple, all I do to calculate work is multiply the distance I lifted the weight by the force that I had to apply to it'. There is however one very important condition.
For work to be done on an object, the force has to be in the same direction as the object's movement!
Weights are not always lifted in perpendicular or parallel lines to the floor, sometimes weightlifting involves tricky things called angles. If your weightlifting exercise involves angles, such as the 45 degree leg press, in order to properly calculate the amount of work you do on the weight, you have to visualize a triangle and split up the distance into both vertical and horizontal parts by using the following set of equations:
Tan (angle theta) = opposite/adjacent
Cos (angle theta) = adjacent/hypotenuse
Sin (angle theta) = opposite/hypotenuse
If you were lying on your back and raised a 45 pound weight (20.45 kg) 1 meter at a 45 degree angle how much work would you have performed?
In order to calculate the above problem you have to remember that to calculate work the force applied to the object has to be in the same direction as the distance the object is moved. Although you are pushing the weight over and up a total of 1 meter you are only raising the weight .707m (Sin45 = y/1m y = .707m vertically). Now that you have the distance the object is moved you have to calculate the amount of force acting on the object. Since F = ma the total force acting on the weight is 200.41N (F = 20.45 x 9.8m/s^2). You now have all of the necessary components to calculate work. W = (200.41)(.707m) = 141.69J
Now that you have a basic understanding of the Work that goes into weightlifting please feel free to check out some of our other links.
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Now that you have explored our page on the physics concept of work, you are ready to learn about power.
By definition, Power is the amount of work that is performed in a certain amount of time.
P = W / t
Since work is measured in the unit of Joules, and time is measured in seconds, Power is measured in Joules/Second, or watts. Most often though, watts are to small of a measurement, therefore we use the measurement of kilowatts (1000 watts.) Machines tend to use horsepower rather than watts. One horsepower is equal to 750 watts.
While a bulky weightlifting may look as if he is more powerful than woman lifting lighter weight, the woman may have more power. If each weightlifter was doing the same amount of work, but in shorter amounts of time, they would have different amounts of power.
Scenario 1:
A man is bench presses 225 lbs (102.27 kg), 10 times in 1 minute in a distance of 0.5 m Another man bench presses 225 lbs, but 10 times in 10 seconds also in a distance of 0.5 m Who has more power?
Answer:
Both men do the same amount of work but in different times. They each do1002.27 J of work. W=(102.27*9.8m/s^2)(0.5m). Man one does 16.75 watts of power. (1002.27 J / 60 seconds.) Man two does 100.23 watts of power. (1002.27 / 10 seconds.) Because Power = work/time, the second man has more power because he does the same amount of work in less time.
Now let us take a look on how friction affects weightlifting.
As stated on our “Basics” page, Friction is the force that opposes the motion of an object. It acts against the movement of an object and is equal in strength to the force applied to the object. When using free weights the concept of Friction really does not come into play because the only thing touching the weight is your hand (which is not supposed to move on the bar) and air. The only friction that is applicable when using free weights is Static Friction. Static friction is the frictional force which acts in opposition to the initial movement of an object (in this case a weight) from its resting position. If the force that you apply is not greater than the value of the static friction, the weight will not move. Static friction opposes the start of motion, thus if you are not strong enough to move the weight, it will not move.
The other type of friction involved when using weightlifting machines is Kinetic Friction. Kinetic Friction is the frictional force that opposes the motion of an object and acts to slow it down when no other outside forces are being applied to propel it. In order to keep your weight moving at a constant velocity (Nobody lifts in jerky movements!) you must apply an equal force but opposite in direction of the force friction.
The force of Static Friction is greater than Kinetic Friction. That is why it is easier to continue pushing an object once it is already moving than it is to initially get the object going. The frictional force can be calculated by multiplying the coefficient of friction (a constant) by the normal force. The normal force is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the force of weight.
Ff = uFN
Force friction = coefficient of friction x Force normal
The coefficient of friction is a constant, but is different for every material. You must apply a large force over the force friction to get the object moving. If your force applied is not larger than the force friction, the object will not move.
Friction plays a key role in weightlifting machines. You will notice that sometime weightlifters cannot even pull a bar down that is on a system of pulleys? Are they not strong enough? No. Sometime it is actually the friction between the plastic coated wires and the pulleys. Thus, it is always important to keep your machines lubricated. A lubrication is a substance that reduces friction, heat, and wear as a film between solid surfaces. Failure to do so will create difficulty for the weightlifter!
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What is energy? Why do people say "Oh man! I have so much energy...I could do anything?" Energy is not what people think. Energy by definition is actually "the ability to produce a change in itself or its surroundings" What does this mean? It is the effect of doing work. When you lift a barbell, you give the barbell a certain property. If you drop the barbell, it can do work; it could exert a force that would crush your toes. Say you were running while carrying a 45 lb plate. If you drop this plate or roll it, you have given it an opportunity to exert a force. You have given these objects energy.
By doing work on a barbell or machine, you have transferred energy from your body to the object. That is why we say work is the transfer of energy by mechanical means. There are two main types of energy, potential and kinetic. Keep reading below to discover how each energy affects weightlifting.
Potential Energy:
An weightlifting object can store energy as the result of its position. When you are locked out at the top of a bench press, the bar has has stored energy. The stored energy is what we call Potential Energy. Likewise, when you pull down a bar on the lat pull down machine and hold it, you have given it potential energy.
There are two types of potential energy, gravitational and elastic. We will deal with only gravitational though, as elastic concerns elastic materials which are only present in plyometric training. Gravitational energy is the stored energy of an object due to its height or vertical position. This energy is stored as a result of the constant gravitational attraction to the earth. (9.8m/s^2). The amount of this type of potential energy is dependent on two factors--the mass of the object and its height that it is raised to. More massive objects have a greater gravitational potential energy. Also, the higher an object is the more gravitational potential energy it has. We can express that potential energy is equal to:
PE (in joules) = mass * gravity * height
PE=mgh
Mass represents the mass of the object, gravity as 9.8m/s^2, and height as the distance where the object is above the ground.
In order to determine the gravitational potential energy, you must first designate a zero height or reference level. This height is where the object is first at rest. Your zero height is where your barbell, dumbbell, or weight is first located an initial position. Dealing with the bench press and squat, the zero height would be where the bar rests on the rack initially.
Scenario:
A female bodybuilder decides to squat 355 lbs (161.36 kg). She rests the rack 2 m above the ground. How much potential energy does the bar have?
Answer:
Since the object is at rest, it has potential energy. PE = mgh. So, PE = (161.36 kg)(9.8 m/s^2)(2 m). The bar has 3162.73 J of potential energy.
Kinetic Energy:
An object that has motion has kinetic energy. The tricep bar that you push down has kinetic energy. The 35 lb dumbbell you curl has kinetic energy. Kinetic energy is defined as "is the amount of energy that a moving object possesses." The value of kinetic energy depends on two variables--the mass of the object and the velocity of the object. We express kinetic energy as:
KE= 1/2 * mass * velocity^2
KE, like all forms of energy, is measured in joules
Looking at the equation, you can tell that a 45 lb barbell has more kinetic energy than a 15 lb dumbbell, assuming their velocities are equal. But how can you get equal amounts of kinetic energy when masses are different? Simply increase the velocity of the smaller object. But how do you increase the velocity of the dumbbell? You must exert a larger force. To do this, we must see how work is equal to kinetic energy.
Newton's second law shows the relationship between performing work and kinetic energy. According to Newton's second law, F= ma, an object is accelerated with a sure constant acceleration if a net force is exerted on it (must be constant.) We know that work is equal to Fd. If we assume that the initial velocity of this dumbbell was zero, we can find the relationship between work and kinetic energy.
Using the equation, vf^2=vi^2 +2ad we can find the relationship:
If vi=0, than the equation collapses to v^2=2ad, or d=v^2/2a
Work is then equal to mad. (F=ma)
Work then translates to = ma(v^2/2a)
= 1/2 mv^2
Work done on is equal to the kinetic energy gained by the dumbbell.
But not all objects start at rest. Therefore, they already have kinetic energy. If an object already has KE, then work would be equal to the change in kinetic energies.
Wnet = KE final - KE initial
This equation is called the work-energy theorem. It states that "the net work done on an object is equal to its change in kinetic energy." This equation indicated that if the work done on an object is positive, the kinetic energy increases. Work is positive when it is performed in the same direction of the object. So if you apply a 10 N force to a barbell upwards during a preacher curl, your kinetic energy will increase because the directions are the same. If the net work done is negative, the kinetic energy decreases.
Scenario:
A man deadlifts 486 lbs (220.91 kg) with a final velocity of 3 m/s. If the barbell was initially at rest determine the amount of kinetic energy.
Answer:
KE= 1/2mv^2. V is equal to Vf-Vi. So to solve this problem you just plug in all the components. KE= 1/2(220.91kg)(3 m/s-0m/s), which equals 331.37 Joules.
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When you walk into a gym there are two main types of weightlifting machines. Free weights, which have no help from machines to assist you and weightlifting machines, such as Nautilus, Cybex, and Hammer Strength which control the motion of your lift. Machines are used primarily by novices and elderly as well as those who are trying to work a specific muscle very strongly. Machines help ease the constant load of the weight, thus making it seem easier to lift a certain weight for a certain exercise.
Free weights Machines
(http://www.deltafit.com/images/barbell.jpg) ( http://www.pro-fitness.com/latpulldown.htm)
There are both advantages and disadvantages to both styles of weightlifting. Free weights work better if you are trying to bulk up on muscle quickly since your muscles are under a constant load of weight. Your muscles have to work to move the weight from its resting position and they also have to work to bring it back. There is no help except if you cheat, as do most weightlifters. By cheating, you are using other insignificant muscles to help lift the weight, thus removing the constant load away from the muscles that are supposed to be worked.
Weightlifting machines actually take pressure off of your muscles because you can spread the load over a larger muscle group. If you are a novice weightlifter it is smart to initially use the weightlifting machines so that you do not pull a muscle or seriously injure yourself by mishandling a free weight or using improper technique to do a lift. Weightlifting machines are also useful to perform exercises that can not be done using free weights, such as the Ground Base Jammer, which is a favorite amongst football players. This machines helps build the pectoral and shoulder muscles, a must for lineman and blockers.
Ground Base Jammer
(http://www.fitness-design.com/lf_gb_jammer.htm)
A machine is a device that transfers a force letting us do Work with less effort. When you use a weightlifting machine you are applying a force to that machine in order to move the apparatus. There is also a force being exerted by the machine. A person can often times lift more weight using a weightlifting machine as opposed to free weights because of the machines Actual Mechanical Advantage. Every machine has a different Actual Mechanical Advantage. Actual Mechanical Advantage is calculated by dividing the amount of force produced by the machine by the amount of force you have to apply to the machine.
AMA = Fresistance / Feffort
In other words mechanical advantage can be found by dividing the weight of the object being lifted (Force weight = mass x acceleration) by the amount of force that you have to apply to lift it. The Actual Mechanical Advantage of a machine is calculated taking into account the resistance force of friction.
If a weightlifting machine is an Ideal machine, the amount of work put into lifting the weight is equal to the amount of work done by the machine because there is no friction. Unfortunately, because there is always someamount of friction existing when two objects rub together, ideal machines exist nowhere but in theory. There is a formula to calculate the Ideal Mechanical Advantage of a machine (ignoring frictional forces).
IMA = d effort / d resistance
Which means that you can calculate the Ideal Mechanical Advantage of a machine by dividing the distance you have to apply the force for by the distance the resistance moved.
All machines have a certain level of Efficiency which is equal to the amount of Work produced by the machine divided by the amount of Work that you have to put into the machine.
Efficiency = Wout / Win
Some examples of simple machines that help you to do Work while weightlifting are levers, wheel & axle, pulleys, and incline planes. Most weightlifting machines (especially novice machines such as Cybex) use pulleys to decrease the amount of effort you have to put in to raise a certain weight. When using pulleys, the IMA can be found by adding the number of strings that the weight is hanging from and that are supporting the weight!
For example, if the weight is hanging from two cords the IMA = 2:1 which means that you only have to apply half the amount of force that you are trying to lift. If you were lifting a 100 lb weight using a machine that had 2 cords attached to the weight you would actually only feel the effect of lifting a 50 lb weight.
There are some machines in which there is only the use of one pulley and two cords, but a majority of the weightlifting machines today use many pulleys and cords as well as different angles. By having a wide variety of angles and pulleys, the user can see for himself which position is more comfortable and which load feels best.
An example of a machine with many pulleys. Some machines have as many as 12 pulleys for one exercise!
(http://www.pro-fitness.com/cablecross.htm)
However, with the use of machines comes another force. That force is the force of tension. Tension arises from the use of ropes or cables to carry a force. (In this case, tension forms in the cables that a weightlifter uses in machines such as cable crossovers, pushdowns, etc.) When a lifter applies a force to the bar to pull the weight down, he is not directly applying a force to the weight stack. Instead, he is exerting a force on the cable which transmits that force onto the load of weight. The force experienced by the weight stack from the cable is called the tension force.
However, in an ideal world these cables would have no mass, perfectly transmitting the force applied to the stack of weight. If the cable was in fact massless, it would always experience two opposite but equal tension forces.
Because most machines uses pulleys, we must address the following issue.
Pulleys do not change the magnitude of the force of the cable. They only change the direction!
We will assume that our cables are massless. From the figure below you can see that the pulley changes the direction. Notice the forces of -T and T. When a cable is used in a pulley, the cable must still experience two opposite but equal forces. It may look like it is experiencing the forces in the same direction, but with the pulley it makes it possible. The pulley changes the direction of the force. When analyzing a pulley situation with a force tension, you must look at the shape of the rope to determine direction. The positive direction of the rope is pointing upward on the left side and pointing downward on the right side. Now you can see that the rope does actually experience two equal but opposite forces.
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monster copy and paste in hopes of distracting
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That makes Zero sense.
Now you know what it's like for the rest of us when we read your posts.
Your bodytype didn't change, only the amount of fat and lean muscle that you had. You lost a lot of both. Your bodytype is the same. When comparing two different people with two different bodytypes, then the relative strength argument can apply. My workout partner is a lot talller and lankier than I am, where as I am short and stocky, so it gives us advantages and disadvantages on different lifts. But when compared to someone the same height and bodytype as me, the weight we lift is the determination of strength. If you're doing a lift properly the only thing that is going to matter is how much force your muscles can exert, otherwise your cheating. Bodytype will affect how much force your muscles can exert depending on the exercise, true. But your bodytype didn't change. You lost muscle mass while dieting. It happens to everyone when they diet down. And you got weaker on your lifts. You seem to be happier now the way you look than before, so what does it matter how much you lift. This is a bodybuilding forum, not a powerlifting one. All that matters is the physique you show, not the weight you lift. So you don't have to get up in arms about what you're lifting or make excuses. By doing so you're just drawing negative attention to yourself.
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Adonis, you love to proclaim your intelligence yet you lack the writing skills to express your point properly.
Let me help you:
TA is trying to say that he is relatively stronger in his new emaciated state. The absolute loads he can now lift are less but his body weight is also less thus he claims to have an improved power to weight ratio. If at 240 lbs he could deadlift 600 lbs that was 2.5 lbs deadlifted for every pound of body weight. At his new weight of say 170 lbs if he could still muster a 500 lbs deadlift he would be deadlifting 2.9 lbs for every pound of body weight.
Now his powerlifting argument is just silly bcause what he fails to realize is that most guys in the lighter weight classes tend to be shorter not just skinny guys lifting a lot of weight. That same argument also disproves his "leverage" argument for the deadlift because there ARE some lighter guys who have tiny waists and can pull a shitload of weight.
Finally, if Adonis would ever care to drive a few hours to my area I would be more than happy to have a deadlift competition. Straps or no straps, reps or for a single.
NO thanks, he likes being second best!!!!!!!!!!
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monster copy and paste in hopes of distracting
Not at all.
I just can`t believe how stupid the majority of people are.
Oh wait,
I can......They voted for Bush and still think people rise from the dead and can walk on water and put ever single animal into a impossibly big boat.
hahhahhah
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Now you know what it's like for the rest of us when we read your posts.
Your bodytype didn't change, only the amount of fat and lean muscle that you had. You lost a lot of both. Your bodytype is the same. When comparing two different people with two different bodytypes, then the relative strength argument can apply. My workout partner is a lot talller and lankier than I am, where as I am short and stocky, so it gives us advantages and disadvantages on different lifts. But when compared to someone the same height and bodytype as me, the weight we lift is the determination of strength. If you're doing a lift properly the only thing that is going to matter is how much force your muscles can exert, otherwise your cheating. Bodytype will affect how much force your muscles can exert depending on the exercise, true. But your bodytype didn't change. You lost muscle mass while dieting. It happens to everyone when they diet down. And you got weaker on your lifts. You seem to be happier now the way you look than before, so what does it matter how much you lift. This is a bodybuilding forum, not a powerlifting one. All that matters is the physique you show, not the weight you lift. So you don't have to get up in arms about what you're lifting or make excuses. By doing so you're just drawing negative attention to yourself.
You are totally wrong!
Based on all equations, I am ALOT stronger!
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It does not disprove my "leverage" argument at all.
Take that same small person and increase their overall bodymass, waist and arm size and they will increase their lifts. Its simple.
Lifting has more to do with placement of joints and bones, angles and speed of reps and distance traveled.
TA, sigh....
Ok, demonstrable strength is a result of several factors some of which you have mentioned. If your argument and statements were 100% correct you would be deadlifting more weight at your lighter bodyweight. Did you know that a big gut is actually considered to be a detriment to deadlifting in powerlifting circles? Why? You have to literally lift around your guys as you pull the load. Anyway, if you lost ZERO muscle mass when dieting you would actually improve you leverage in the deadlift and thus be able to lift a greater load (not to mention the fact your body would weigh less thus decreasing the true load being lifted even if the weight on the bar were the same).
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You are totally wrong!
Based on all equations, I am ALOT stronger!
HI sarcasm ;D
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You are totally wrong!
Based on all equations, I am ALOT stronger!
Do you lift more now? and don't cut and paste someone elses work, just answer yes or no.
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Adonis: man I have had sex with so many girls
Reality: man I have had sex with so many relatives
;D
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TA, sigh....
Ok, demonstrable strength is a result of several factors some of which you have mentioned. If your argument and statements were 100% correct you would be deadlifting more weight at your lighter bodyweight. Did you know that a big gut is actually considered to be a detriment to deadlifting in powerlifting circles? Why? You have to literally lift around your guys as you pull the load. Anyway, if you lost ZERO muscle mass when dieting you would actually improve you leverage in the deadlift and thus be able to lift a greater load (not to mention the fact your body would weigh less thus decreasing the true load being lifted even if the weight on the bar were the same).
Why do you bother man? It is obvious he is either insane, in which case you can't do anything, or, he is fucking with you.
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It does not disprove my "leverage" argument at all.
Take that same small person and increase their overall bodymass, waist and arm size and they will increase their lifts. Its simple.
Lifting has more to do with placement of joints and bones, angles and speed of reps and distance traveled.
Their lifts will increase because they have more muscle and therefore got stronger. Joints and bones, angles and speed of reps has nothing to do with how much bodyfat you have. That is structural. Your structure did not change. You can make the pound for pound argument, but even then the biggest factor is how much of that poundage is muscle. There a huge difference between Ronnie Coleman at 300 lbs and a 5' 11" 300lbs lard-ass with 40% bf. Ronnie will outlift him because he has more muscle mass, even if they have the same structure and weight. Your joints and bones didn't change, so your lifts shouldn't have either, unless you lost some muscle mass. The only equation in which you are stronger is if you are talking pound for pound and not taking into account your lean muscle mass. But if your lean bodyweight didn't change your lifts shouldn't have either, especially by 180 pounds.
Just because you keep saying "You're wrong" doesn't mean I am. Show the holes in my logic. I showed the holes in yours and you have yet to reconcile them. I know you're not in the habit of addressing people who show you to be wrong, but do you think you can make an exception this time? Just how many times do I and others have to show you that you are anything but infallible?
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Their lifts will increase because they have more muscle and therefore got stronger. Joints and bones, angles and speed of reps has nothing to do with how much bodyfat you have. That is structural. Your structure did not change. You can make the pound for pound argument, but even then the biggest factor is how much of that poundage is muscle. There a huge difference between Ronnie Coleman at 300 lbs and a 5' 11" 300lbs lard-ass with 40% bf. Ronnie will outlift him because he has more muscle mass, even if they have the same structure and weight. Your joints and bones didn't change, so your lifts shouldn't have either, unless you lost some muscle mass. The only equation in which you are stronger is if you are talking pound for pound and not taking into account your lean muscle mass. But if your lean bodyweight didn't change your lifts shouldn't have either, especially by 180 pounds.
Just because you keep saying "You're wrong" doesn't mean I am. Show the holes in my logic. I showed the holes in yours and you have yet to reconcile them. I know you're not in the habit of addressing people who show you to be wrong, but do you think you can make an exception this time? Just how many times do I and others have to show you that you are anything but infallible?
Thats funny. Because my lean body mass was the same when I was Deadlifting 600 as it is now.
ROFLMAO!
And I will add, the last 3 times I dieted down with 350 grams of protein and carb cycled. Didn`t cheat once.
I was SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH WEAKER! and not near as lean!
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haha you sound like a physics geek TA
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People need to know these things so they don`t feel bad about themselves not being able to do what the next guy does. It simply does not matter.
it does matter in competition.
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Thats funny. Because my lean body mass was the same when I was Deadlifting 600 as it is now.
ROFLMAO!
And I will add, the last 3 times I dieted down with 350 grams of protein and carb cycled. Didn`t cheat once.
I was SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH WEAKER! and not near as lean!
i agree i was dieting around 300-400 grams of protien, it didnt feel right drinking all that crap whey either.
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i agree i was dieting around 300-400 grams of protien, it didnt feel right drinking all that crap whey either.
whats really funny is when people cry "genetics"...ohhh you must have good "genetics" to be so huge and ripped
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Thats funny. Because my lean body mass was the same when I was Deadlifting 600 as it is now.
ROFLMAO!
And I will add, the last 3 times I dieted down with 350 grams of protein and carb cycled. Didn`t cheat once.
I was SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH WEAKER! and not near as lean!
You claim your lean body mass was the same. Most people will contend that it was not. It's easy to tell looking at your pics that you lost some muscle. The fact that your lifts decreased so much would indicate that as well. When you were bigger you lift more. Then you did a crash diet based upon a caloric deficit without any concern for keeping yourself supplied with amino acids so that your body didn't eat your muscle mass. So you lost a bunch of weight that way and your lifts went down. You obviously lost muscle tissue. D'uh!
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11 pages of useless information......
Mods....move this to the alphabet boards with the other useless information
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Did you mention inbreeding?
I dont agree with you guys making fun of Adonis for physical attributes. As far as im concerned his theories and training principles are fair game but there is no need to make fun of people for the way they look.
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daddywaddy why are you talking to yourself?
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I dont agree with you guys making fun of Adonis for physical attributes. As far as im concerned his theories and training principles are fair game but there is no need to make fun of people for the way they look.
What about his haircut? He can do something about that ;D
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What about his haircut? He can do something about that ;D
He does have a point. In all fairness though Adam in the past has been as hard as anyone on people for how they look. He is getting a taste of his own medicine now. Mind you he is nuts now, so I don't know how he is going to take it all.
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Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight. Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.
I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.
And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.
TA....actually people should just go here and plug some numbers in:
http://tsampa.org/training/scripts/relative_strength/
Use the following:
Name: Lifter1
Weight (bodyweight): 235lbs
Total : 600lb
Age: 27 (I think thats how old you were when you did your 600)
Name: Lifter2
Weight (bodyweight): 170lbs
Total : 500lb
Age: 28 (I think it was a year ago)
Click calculate and you will see how each of the powerlifting formulas would rank you....
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He does have a point. In all fairness though Adam in the past has been as hard as anyone on people for how they look. He is getting a taste of his own medicine now. Mind you he is nuts now, so I don't know how he is going to take it all.
Yeah, I think that the moment TA said that Natural Al was making up his sons death and his fathers stroke he classified himself as a bonified scumbag and deserves to be told just how goddam ugly he is now.
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What about his haircut? He can do something about that ;D
I guess that too is fair game, as he can choose how his hair looks.
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I guess that too is fair game, as he can choose how his hair looks.
Do you care about TA making fun of whateva's race?
Is it alright if TA calls whateva a GOOK and asks him how many rice patties he can lift in a wheel barrow?
Adonis: man I have had sex with so many girls
Reality: man I have had sex with so many relatives
;D
Did you say something about inbreeding?
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Adonis, You do know that Both Hitler and Goebbles belived in God right? And Himmler was fascinated with the occult.
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For Adonis ;D
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Adonis, You do know that Both Hitler and Goebbles belived in God right? And Himmler was fascinated with the occult.
Is it alright for TA to make this post?
Whatever GOOK.
I am stronger than you have ever been.
You are weak! hahhahhah
What are your best lifts? How many rice patties can you fit in the wheelbarrow? ROFLMAO
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Is it alright for TA to make this post?
quote author=The True Adonis link=topic=98592.msg1423948#msg1423948 date=1159916719]
Whatever GOOK.
I am stronger than you have ever been.
You are weak! hahhahhah
What are your best lifts? How many rice patties can you fit in the wheelbarrow? ROFLMAO
Actually that is pretty tame compared to what other people on here say. TA is a douche, but his racist jokes are pretty harmless.
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Actually that is pretty tame compared to what other people on here say. TA is a douche, but his racist jokes are pretty harmless.
That's not the point. Mussolini said he didn't like it when people make fun of TA for how he looks but he doesn't say anything for TA making fun of whateva for being Asian.
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That's not the point. Mussolini said he didn't like it when people make fun of TA for how he looks but he doesn't say anything for TA making fun of whateva for being Asian.
I dont agree with that either. I dont agree with making fun of someone for something they have no control over, periode.
Does it say "moderator" beside my name? Last time I checked it didnt, so get off my nuts already about Adonis being a racist.
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That's not the point. Mussolini said he didn't like it when people make fun of TA for how he looks but he doesn't say anything for TA making fun of whateva for being Asian.
Oh, then I agree with you. TA should be fair game. It's not like he doesn't know he's ugly.
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I dont agree with that either. I dont agree with making fun of someone for something they have no control over, periode.
Does it say "moderator" beside my name? Last time I checked it didnt, so get off my nuts already about Adonis being a racist.
Hey genius, no it doesn't say "moderator" next to your name it says "whiny little bitch". You're the one that jumped on my nuts about making fun of TA for the way he looks. All I did was point out the hypocrisy of you not saying anything about TA calling whateva a GOOK.
Apparently being confronted with a rational point turns you into a whiner, nice job Einstein.
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Hey genius, no it doesn't say "moderator" next to your name it says "whiny little bitch". You're the one that jumped on my nuts about making fun of TA for the way he looks. All I did was point out the hypocrisy of you not saying anything about TA calling whateva a GOOK.
Apparently being confronted with a rational point turns you into a whiner, nice job Einstein.
Thanks, Its nice to know im appreciated around here.
YOur the one pleading and explaining your actions to me and danielson ect, that kinda sounds like whining but what do you know? Im no Einstein. ;D
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Im no Einstein. ;D
Perhaps not but you are a Mussolini. Fascist. ;D
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11 pages of useless information......
Mods....move this to the alphabet boards with the other useless information
;D
Hedge is useless...I already said that.
Im waiting for Ron reply :D
I get tired of all these useless threads,boring shit they should take it to the X board and play with themself there.
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Thats funny. Because my lean body mass was the same when I was Deadlifting 600 as it is now.
ROFLMAO!
And I will add, the last 3 times I dieted down with 350 grams of protein and carb cycled. Didn`t cheat once.
I was SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH WEAKER! and not near as lean!
That's because you have poor genetics ahahahahH!!
Yeah but TA's tiny. Alex23 is pretty huge...hella bigger than TA's lanky ass...and Alex doesn't need 10 groupies holding his dick
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I can't get over how ugly Adonis is. He must have a very hard time attracting the opposite sex. No wonder he's so bitter.
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I can't get over how ugly Adonis is. He must have a very hard time attracting the opposite sex. No wonder he's so bitter.
Can't get over it either.. guess the "german" gene pool has been corrupted in his case.. monster bald spot as well..
The dude must feel really bad about himself. I hope he doesn't decide to take it to an end... don't wanna be responsible for pointing out facts that would lead to it :o
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I already said HOW I am stronger.
You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,
175 lbs bench pressing 375.
You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.
The above applies to my current deadlift.
I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.
How dumb can you be?
Yes. That's exactly my opinion. The biggest lift is also the strongest lift. Period.
If lifter A lifts 25 lbs more than lifter B, he is stronger.
Very well put.
YIP
Zack
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adonis...were you the kid on the bridge playing the banjo in Deliverance?
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Yes. That's exactly my opinion. The biggest lift is also the strongest lift. Period.
If lifter A lifts 25 lbs more than lifter B, he is stronger.
Very well put.
YIP
Zack
So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler bencing 365 is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
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So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler bencing 365 is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
He can bench more.
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He can bench more.
Is he stronger?
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i think what he means is lb. for lb. strength.
some of you here are a little slow on the uptake ::)
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Is he stronger?
you didn't give enough information.
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you didn't give enough information.
So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler bencing 365 is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
What more do you need?
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So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler bencing 365 is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
What more do you need?
for a start, squat and DL numbers might help.
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Is he stronger?
Yes, the definition of strength makes no mention of it being relative to size. Pound for pound is a different story, but who gives a shit.
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for a start, squat and DL numbers might help.
So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler benhcing 365
Squat 400
Deadlift 450
is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
Squat 385
Deadlift 385
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goodtimes with the lizard
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So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler benhcing 365
Squat 400
Deadlift 450
is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
Squat 385
Deadlift 385
He can lift more.
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Yes, the definition of strength makes no mention of it being relative to size. Pound for pound is a different story, but who gives a shit.
Of course it does.
If the Sumo Wrestler were to lose all fat and get equally as ripped as the 140 lb man, you would quickly see that his power to weight would also adjust accordingly.
He would not even be close to performing these lifts if he dieted down due to many reasons. Such as the distance for lifts will increase and leverage and angles will be totally different. He would have to adjust to a new mechanical arc.
His center of gravity will be different. A 60 inch plus waist is a good base, a 30 inch waist is not even comparable.
Think of a column. A skinny column of the same height cannot support the amount of weight displaced as a wider column.
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One person bench presses 405, squats 495 and deadlifts 450 another person bench presses 315, squats 365 and deadlifts 335, who is stronger?
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THE ONLY reason TA is making this arguement is because it benefits him at this point and time. 6 months ago if I would have said I was DLing 455 for 6 a few years ago he would have said I was weak even though I only weighed about 175-180..I still would have been weak to him, his perspective and opinions change at the drop of a dime to suit his current needs.
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One person bench presses 405, squats 495 and deadlifts 450 another person bench presses 315, squats 365 and deadlifts 335, who is stronger?
The person performing the most work. Depends on distance and time also.
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THE ONLY reason TA is making this arguement is because it benefits him at this point and time. 6 months ago if I would have said I was DLing 455 for 6 a few years ago he would have said I was weak even though I only weighed about 175-180..I still would have been weak to him, his perspective and opinions change at the drop of a dime to suit his current needs.
Not at all.
I always said that I was deadlifting 600 near 240 lbs which is not great at all.
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The person performing the most work. Depends on distance and time also.
power factor training?
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The person performing the most work. Depends on distance and time also.
Does anyone else not understand this answer?
One person lifts more weight than another person then the person that lifts more is stronger. Why is something so simple being skewed so much?
Isn't absolute strength the point? Since when was pound for pound strength the basis for who is the strongest?
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power factor training?
W = F x d
order to calculate the work that has gone into lifting your weights, you must first know how to calculate force. The force applied to an object is equal to the mass of the object times the objects acceleration.
Fa = m x a
You might be thinking 'well that sounds simple, all I do to calculate work is multiply the distance I lifted the weight by the force that I had to apply to it'. There is however one very important condition.
For work to be done on an object, the force has to be in the same direction as the object's movement!
Weights are not always lifted in perpendicular or parallel lines to the floor, sometimes weightlifting involves tricky things called angles. If your weightlifting exercise involves angles, such as the 45 degree leg press, in order to properly calculate the amount of work you do on the weight, you have to visualize a triangle and split up the distance into both vertical and horizontal parts by using the following set of equations:
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By definition, Power is the amount of work that is performed in a certain amount of time.
P = W / t
While a bulky weightlifting may look as if he is more powerful than woman lifting lighter weight, the woman may have more power. If each weightlifter was doing the same amount of work, but in shorter amounts of time, they would have different amounts of power.
Scenario 1:
A man is bench presses 225 lbs (102.27 kg), 10 times in 1 minute in a distance of 0.5 m Another man bench presses 225 lbs, but 10 times in 10 seconds also in a distance of 0.5 m Who has more power?
Answer:
Both men do the same amount of work but in different times. They each do1002.27 J of work. W=(102.27*9.8m/s^2)(0.5m). Man one does 16.75 watts of power. (1002.27 J / 60 seconds.) Man two does 100.23 watts of power. (1002.27 / 10 seconds.) Because Power = work/time, the second man has more power because he does the same amount of work in less time.
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So a 400 lbs Sumo Wrestler bencing 365 is stronger than a 140 lb person benching 285?
Yes. In the benchpress.
Or, to put it extreme:
A 400 lbs sumo wrestler who benchpresses 251 lbs is stronger in the benchpress than a 155 lbs ripped guy who benchpresses 250 lbs.
The ripped guy scores a better Wilks point, and could be considered a better benchpresser.
But stronger? No.
And if you look up your score on the Wilks, you were better @ 238 lbs.
This is just the facts. You don't score as high at a lower bodyweight as you did at a higher bodyweight.
To conclude:
1. You're not as strong.
2. From a powerlifting perspective, taking your lower bodyweight into account, you are not as good lifter today.
What about your other lifts? How has the squat and the benchpress changed?
I'd imagine that the deadlift is where you can keep most of the strength, and you've lost a lot of strength in the squat, since a big gut is very helpful in squatting big.
YIP
Zack
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Not at all.
I always said that I was deadlifting 600 near 240 lbs which is not great at all.
Nothing personal, but that is a lie. You stated time and time again how great that was and how great you were when you did those "lifts". Natural Al is correct here, you are changing your attitude to give yourself an advantage. Give these arguments a rest of you ever want to have credibility on here again.
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Give these arguments a rest of you ever want to have credibility on here again.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
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This is the most ridiculous advice I have ever read from Adonis. Now he's an expert in powerlifting. This is just not right.
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W = F x d
order to calculate the work that has gone into lifting your weights, you must first know how to calculate force. The force applied to an object is equal to the mass of the object times the objects acceleration.
Fa = m x a
You might be thinking 'well that sounds simple, all I do to calculate work is multiply the distance I lifted the weight by the force that I had to apply to it'. There is however one very important condition.
For work to be done on an object, the force has to be in the same direction as the object's movement!
Weights are not always lifted in perpendicular or parallel lines to the floor, sometimes weightlifting involves tricky things called angles. If your weightlifting exercise involves angles, such as the 45 degree leg press, in order to properly calculate the amount of work you do on the weight, you have to visualize a triangle and split up the distance into both vertical and horizontal parts by using the following set of equations:
LOL you know jackshit about physics.
1.Yes if he lift more he is stronger.No other way around it.
2.A force doesnt have to be at the same direction of the movment retard,go learn about vectors.How to break vectors into specific axis and so on.
You have no idea how stupid you make yourself look.