Adonis= World Class powerlifter??

[ieffinhatecardio]

Okay,  lets say those are tens (even though I am positive they are fives).  Thats 520 not 525.  Even though its not a huge difference it still is not the weight he claims.

I never said TA was telling the truth, hell half those plates are probably fake. I'm just saying the second ones from the end look like 10's to me. That doesn't change the fact that TA is full of schit.

[no one]

Nonsense.

I have just PROVEN anyone doubting my deadlifing strength.

You can`t even muster the courage to post a picture.

hahahahh.   I love proving the lesser intelligent ones wrong...It gets them in a little hissy fit.

I have exposed everyones stupidity and they hate themselves for it, so they try to misdirect their anger. Kind of like you do AL.

hahahahaha

anyone that uses the words 'hissy fit' either lives at home with his mom, or is a fag.

i think both apply equally to you.

[Woten]

anyone that uses the words 'hissy fit' either lives at home with his mom, or is a fag.

i think both apply equally to you.

do you mean the words you just employed?

[xpac2]

How so.

I already told Natural Al that I do not have time to type,retype and proofread 30,000 word documents that I could easily write while I am at work.

That's write because you are too busy posting under your gimmick accounts sarcasm

[The True Adonis]

No you haven't. And many of us have proved you wrong. And you still haven't admitted that you lied when I caught you lying and proved you wrong, which you said you would do. The simple fact is that however much you deadlift is how much you deadlift. Go to a powerlifting meet and try to explain to them that relatively speaking even though they lift more than you you're actually lifting more than them and ae stronger, I'm sure it will go over well.

And I find it funny that you would say "I win, you lose, simple as that." since you have demonstrated that you are not capable of comprehending that concept with your continued insistence that you won the MGB. Whateva won, you lost, simple as that

Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight.  Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.

I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.

And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.

[Woten]

Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight.  Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.

I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.

And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.

TA, its as if some of these fuckwits have never grasped the concept of scoring on aggregate

[chris_mason]

hahhahahah OWNED

a) You're using straps.

b) That is not 600 lbs.

c) You are at your top weight there not your current emaciated state.

[El_Spiko]

Dumbass,
Powerlifting is categorized by bodyweight.  Being way stronger at a lower bodyweight then being a high bodyweight and less proportionately strong is HUGE in powerlifting.

I would do way better at a lighter bodyweight deadlifting 500 lbs then being a heavy bodyweight and only doing 600.

And some Organizations even use Power to Weight Ratios to determine meets or to determine overall best lifters.

At a powerlifting meet, the weight you lift is the weight you lift. Yes, it is categorized by bodyweight. And you are ranked by the actual weight on the bar that you lifted, not by some calculation based on your height weight and astrological sign. You were saying that because you lifted x amount of weight you actually lifted y amount of weight. That is ridiculous. You might as well say "Since I DL 420 pounds at my height weight now, I actually DL the equivalent of 50,000 pounds if I was 70 feet tall". You lift what you lift and that's it. You DLed 420, not 700+. How hard is that to understand?

[Whiskey]

a) You're using straps.

b) That is not 600 lbs.

c) You are at your top weight there not your current emaciated state.

TA you said on page 4 that you are actually stronger now at a lighter bodyweight.
I asked 3 times if you would like to make a bet now to see if could deadlift the same weight at your current weight and you have still not answered me
I wonder why?

[The True Adonis]

TA you said on page 4 that you are actually stronger now at a lighter bodyweight.
I asked 3 times if you would like to make a bet now to see if could deadlift the same weight at your current weight and you have still not answered me
I wonder why?

I already said HOW I am stronger.

You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,

175 lbs bench pressing 375.

You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.

The above applies to my current deadlift.

I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.

How dumb can you be?

[gibberj2]

are you indirectly telling us that you weigh 175?

[Woten]

I already said HOW I am stronger.

You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,

175 lbs bench pressing 375.

You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.

The above applies to my current deadlift.

I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.

How dumb can you be?

Hang on, thats the 'pound for pound' argument that the guys I hate at my gym use

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo!!!!!!

LOL

[dorkeroo]

I already said HOW I am stronger.

You seem to think a guy bench pressing 400 lbs at a bodyweight of 365 lbs is stronger than a man,

175 lbs bench pressing 375.

You guys are REALLY dumb FATBODIES and it shows.

The above applies to my current deadlift.

I am stronger at a lighter bodyweight than a higher one.

How dumb can you be?

YOU TELL EM!

[The True Adonis]

are you indirectly telling us that you weigh 175?

I am trying to get the dumb fatsos to understand.

hahah They probably think that a 500 lb Sumo Wrestler who can bench press 485 is stronger than a 180 lb man bench pressing 350.

[El_Spiko]

If you lost no muscle mass, then you should be able to dl the same weight. Your fat wasn't exerting any strength on your deadlift. And talk about center of gravity all you want, you didn't have a huge distended gut, so your center of gravity is going to be based more on your height than anything else. If you are stronger you should be able to lift the same weight or more, not 180 pounds less.

[dorkeroo]

I am trying to get the dumb fatsos to understand.

hahah They probably think that a 500 lb Sumo Wrestler who can bench press 485 is stronger than a 180 lb man bench pressing 350.

Everyone here is so fat and stupid. I agree.

[The True Adonis]

If you lost no muscle mass, then you should be able to dl the same weight. Your fat wasn't exerting any strength on your deadlift. And talk about center of gravity all you want, you didn't have a huge distended gut, so your center of gravity is going to be based more on your height than anything else. If you are stronger you should be able to lift the same weight or more, not 180 pounds less.

That makes Zero sense.

Go back and re read the strength article I posted about body types.

[dorkeroo]

That makes Zero sense.

Go back and re read the strength article I posted about body types.

Yeah what gives El Spiko? Follow it to the letter too or you will be sorry.

[gibberj2]

i guess you were on that boat too for a while TA. Remember "Natural beast approaching 20" arms" ?

[chris_mason]

Adonis, you love to proclaim your intelligence yet you lack the writing skills to express your point properly.

Let me help you:

TA is trying to say that he is relatively stronger in his new emaciated state.  The absolute loads he can now lift are less but his body weight is also less thus he claims to have an improved power to weight ratio.  If at 240 lbs he could deadlift 600 lbs that was 2.5 lbs deadlifted for every pound of body weight.  At his new weight of say 170 lbs if he could still muster a 500 lbs deadlift he would be deadlifting 2.9 lbs for every pound of body weight.



Now his powerlifting argument is just silly bcause what he fails to realize is that most guys in the lighter weight classes tend to be shorter not just skinny guys lifting a lot of weight.  That same argument also disproves his "leverage" argument for the deadlift because there ARE some lighter guys who have tiny waists and can pull a shitload of weight.

Finally, if Adonis would ever care to drive a few hours to my area I would be more than happy to have a deadlift competition.  Straps or no straps, reps or for a single.  

[SteelePegasus]

TA: "Jezze,  my cock is really big...size doesn't matter, it is all relative"
Jezze: *shakes her in head with sadness*

TA: "never mind that 12' brother, my 3 inches are relatively bigger than his"
TA: "Look at it this way, if you multiply my size times 4 I would be 12 inches...see, I am big"

Jezze: *shakes her head and thinks...these German's are creative*

[The True Adonis]

Adonis, you love to proclaim your intelligence yet you lack the writing skills to express your point properly.

Let me help you:

TA is trying to say that he is relatively stronger in his new emaciated state.  The absolute loads he can now lift are less but his body weight is also less thus he claims to have an improved power to weight ratio.  If at 240 lbs he could deadlift 600 lbs that was 2.5 lbs deadlifted for every pound of body weight.  At his new weight of say 170 lbs if he could still muster a 500 lbs deadlift he would be deadlifting 2.9 lbs for every pound of body weight.



Now his powerlifting argument is just silly bcause what he fails to realize is that most guys in the lighter weight classes tend to be shorter not just skinny guys lifting a lot of weight.  That same argument also disproves his "leverage" argument for the deadlift because there ARE some lighter guys who have tiny waists and can pull a shitload of weight.

Finally, if Adonis would ever care to drive a few hours to my area I would be more than happy to have a deadlift competition.  Straps or no straps, reps or for a single.  

It does not disprove my "leverage" argument at all.
Take that same small person and increase their overall bodymass, waist and arm size and they will increase their lifts.  Its simple.

Lifting has more to do with placement of joints and bones, angles and speed of reps and distance traveled.

[alexxx]

Adonis if you get stuck under a cement wall and the force necessary to lift it off is 400 pounds, who are you going to curse for being so lean and only able to lift half that?

'I could relatively do it but am too small.' -Adonis

[The True Adonis]

Millions of Americans get in their cars and head off to work every day. Generally, people think of work as somewhere to go (possibly get something accomplished) and go home with a pay check at the end of every week. But the physics concept of Work is much different. You might not realize it, but every time you weight lift you are actually performing work on the barbell.

    By definition Work is the "transfer of energy by mechanical means". Work can be calculated by multiplying the amount of force (N) applied to the object by the distance (m) that the object moved.

W = F x d

Where work is measured in the Joule(J), force in  Newtons(N), and distance in  meters(m)

    The unit of work is a Joule(J) which is named in honor of the physicist James Prescott Joule (1818 - 1889) who discovered that there was a link between heat and other forms of energy. One Joule is equal to one Newton-meter.

For example, if you are performing a hang clean, every time you push the bar upwards, it is accelerating against the force of gravity (Fg = 9.8m/s^2). Lets say that you started with the weight resting on the floor and raised it above your head to a final height of 6m above the ground - the distance the bar traveled is 6m up. If you pushed upwards on the weight with enough force to accelerate the bar 14.8m/s^2 upwards, the total acceleration of the bar would be (14.8m/s^2 up - 9.8m/s^2 down) 5m/s^2 in the upwards direction. If the bar had a mass of 10kg then the total amount of force that you applied to the bar would be 50N (Force is measured by the unit Newton(N), 1N = 1kg m/s^2). Now you can substitute those values into the equation W = F x d. Your final answer should be W = 300J (W = 50N x 6m).

    In order to calculate the work that has gone into lifting your weights, you must first know how to calculate force. The force applied to an object is equal to the mass of the object times the objects acceleration.

Fa = m x  a

    

    You might be thinking 'well that sounds simple, all I do to calculate work is multiply the distance I lifted the weight by the force that I had to apply to it'. There is however one very important condition.

 For work to be done on an object, the force has to be in the same direction as the object's movement!  

    Weights are not always lifted in perpendicular or parallel lines to the floor, sometimes weightlifting involves tricky things called angles. If your weightlifting exercise involves angles, such as the 45 degree leg press, in order to properly calculate the amount of work you do on the weight, you have to visualize a triangle and split up the distance into both vertical and horizontal parts by using the following set of equations:

Tan (angle theta) = opposite/adjacent

Cos (angle theta) = adjacent/hypotenuse

Sin (angle theta) = opposite/hypotenuse

    If you were lying on your back and raised a 45 pound weight (20.45 kg) 1 meter at a 45 degree angle how much work would you have performed?

 

    In order to calculate the above problem you have to remember that to calculate work the force applied to the object has to be in the same direction as the distance the object is moved. Although you are pushing the weight over and up a total of 1 meter you are only raising the weight .707m (Sin45 = y/1m   y = .707m vertically). Now that you have the distance the object is moved you have to calculate the amount of force acting on the object. Since F = ma the total force acting on the weight is 200.41N (F = 20.45 x 9.8m/s^2). You now have all of the necessary components to calculate work. W = (200.41)(.707m) = 141.69J

    Now that you have a basic understanding of the Work that goes into weightlifting please feel free to check out some of our other links.

[The True Adonis]

 Now that you have explored our page on the physics concept of work, you are ready to learn about power.

    By definition, Power is the amount of work that is performed in a certain amount of time.

P = W / t

    Since work is measured in the unit of Joules, and time is measured in seconds, Power is measured in Joules/Second, or watts. Most often though, watts are to small of a measurement, therefore we use the measurement of kilowatts (1000 watts.) Machines tend to use horsepower rather than watts. One horsepower is equal to 750 watts.

    While a bulky weightlifting may look as if he is more powerful than woman lifting lighter weight, the woman may have more power. If each weightlifter was doing the same amount of work, but in shorter amounts of time, they would have different amounts of power.

Scenario 1:

A man is bench presses 225 lbs (102.27 kg), 10 times in 1 minute in a distance of 0.5 m Another man bench presses 225 lbs, but 10 times in 10 seconds also in a distance of 0.5 m Who has more power?

Answer:

    Both men do the same amount of work but in different times. They each do1002.27 J of work. W=(102.27*9.8m/s^2)(0.5m). Man one does 16.75 watts of power. (1002.27 J / 60 seconds.) Man two does 100.23 watts of power. (1002.27 / 10 seconds.) Because Power = work/time, the second man has more power because he does the same amount of work in less time.

Now let us take a look on how friction affects weightlifting.

As stated on our “Basics” page, Friction is the force that opposes the motion of an object. It acts against the movement of an object and is equal in strength to the force applied to the object. When using free weights the concept of Friction really does not come into play because the only thing touching the weight is your hand (which is not supposed to move on the bar) and air. The only friction that is applicable when using free weights is Static Friction. Static friction is the frictional force which acts in opposition to the initial movement of an object (in this case a weight) from its resting position. If the force that you apply is not greater than the value of the static friction, the weight will not move. Static friction opposes the start of motion, thus if you are not strong enough to move the weight, it will not move.

    The other type of friction involved when using weightlifting machines is Kinetic Friction. Kinetic Friction is the frictional force that opposes the motion of an object and acts to slow it down when no other outside forces are being applied to propel it. In order to keep your weight moving at a constant velocity (Nobody lifts in jerky movements!) you must apply an equal force but opposite in direction of the force friction.   

      The force of Static Friction is greater than Kinetic Friction. That is why it is easier to continue pushing an object once it is already moving than it is to initially get the object going. The frictional force can be calculated by multiplying the coefficient of friction (a constant) by the normal force. The normal force is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the force of weight.   

 

Ff = uFN

Force friction = coefficient of friction x Force normal

    The coefficient of friction is a constant, but is different for every material. You must apply a large force over the force friction to get the object moving. If your force applied is not larger than the force friction, the object will not move. 

    Friction plays a key role in weightlifting machines. You will notice that sometime weightlifters cannot even pull a bar down that is on a system of pulleys? Are they not strong enough? No. Sometime it is actually the friction between the plastic coated wires and the pulleys. Thus, it is always important to keep your machines lubricated. A lubrication is a substance that reduces friction, heat, and wear as a film between solid surfaces. Failure to do so will create difficulty for the weightlifter!