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Title: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 03, 2006, 09:09:36 PM: >:(whos the guy thats running cleve dean down first of all you didnt beat him in vegas at the over the top tounament.2nd of all you said rick zumwalt and john pulled for the truck thats also wrong it was edd arnold and john . cleve did not pull for the truck because he was not a teamster cleve dean came back this year at age 52 and won the nationals and worlds no one and i mean no one can beat him if you like he will be at the arnolds show us how bad you are or ill just armwrestle you myself neil robinson
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Woten on October 03, 2006, 09:13:07 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 03, 2006, 09:09:36 PM
>:(whos the guy thats running cleve dean down first of all you didnt beat him in vegas at the over the top tounament.2nd of all you said rick zumwalt and john pulled for the truck thats also wrong it was edd arnold and john . cleve did not pull for the truck because he was not a teamster cleve dean came back this year at age 52 and won the nationals and worlds no one and i mean no one can beat him if you like he will be at the arnolds show us how bad you are or ill just armwrestle you myself neil robinson

Cant wait for Keith to get to grips with this LOL
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: The_Hammer on October 03, 2006, 11:15:15 PM: What about Big Daddy Gary Goodridge?
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: knny187 on October 04, 2006, 09:41:39 AM: Onlyme.....

where did you goooooooooooooo?

;)
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 01:51:38 PM: im right here so what do dream up stories i was there dude i would like to no your name and as far as goodrich yea he did beat cleve but cleve was in the hospital for 4 months prior to that year before cleve swept him and john if only me wants to talk about a future match i will give you my number its 304 845 1090 call anytime
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: HowieW on October 04, 2006, 01:59:25 PM: Cleve was a decent guy. He was guest ref at an AAU meet I did back around 1979 on Pease AFB in Portsmouth NH. I won the Lt hvy class and got to pull with Cleave for fun as did the other wt class winners. He was good natured and we made a show of it. I almost crapped my pants when I locked up with that monster, his hands and wrist were so thick I felt like a bear paw had grabbed my hand!
Needless to say, he beat me.
Howard
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Blockhead on October 04, 2006, 02:00:09 PM: Just what this board needs...a TOOL from Moundsville, WV who can't type.

Get the fk out of here ball bag...go to Mayhem.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 02:27:23 PM: blockhead need i say more
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 02:29:03 PM: I wasnt talking to you i just wanted to talk to only me so stay out of it punk.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 02:32:40 PM: ill be at the arnolds you can call me a few names there . like i am so sorry please forgive me you know words like that.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Blockhead on October 04, 2006, 02:51:52 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 02:32:40 PM
ill be at the arnolds you can call me a few names there . like i am so sorry please forgive me you know words like that.
Meltdown!

Learn how to type.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: youandme on October 04, 2006, 03:04:43 PM: IQs are sure to drop after reading such a post
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 04:21:28 PM: I have 7 years of college. I was pissed at the bullshit i read. cant onyme answer for himself. and why do a bunch of bitches have to open there gators. are you ladys on your off cycle. little rage i know im in the strongman at the arnolds. and ill be glad to show you real power. ps enough said
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: bmacsys on October 04, 2006, 04:23:48 PM: Quote from: HowieW on October 04, 2006, 01:59:25 PM
Cleve was a decent guy. He was guest ref at an AAU meet I did back around 1979 on Pease AFB in Portsmouth NH. I won the Lt hvy class and got to pull with Cleave for fun as did the other wt class winners. He was good natured and we made a show of it. I almost crapped my pants when I locked up with that monster, his hands and wrist were so thick I felt like a bear paw had grabbed my hand!
Needless to say, he beat me.
Howard

Cleve sports 10.5" wrists. :o
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Miss Karen on October 04, 2006, 04:31:00 PM: Whoa Mr Robinson You have to know 1st of all many Pros and others get worked up and want to bash these little girls but if you sit back and know it's just a message board you will workout that you are way too real for these Clowns and Fucksticks.If you watch this site you will workout only the same fools are here. So Don't get worked up over crap no one cares about this shithole.But if you want to kick the shit outa them ENJOY.Most of the Pros know how it works.Wait until ya pic is up and burning.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Blockhead on October 04, 2006, 04:40:21 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 04:21:28 PM
I have 7 years of college. I was pissed at the bullshit i read. cant onyme answer for himself. and why do a bunch of bitches have to open there gators. are you ladys on your off cycle. little rage i know im in the strongman at the arnolds. and ill be glad to show you real power. ps enough said
Nuclear MELTDOWN!
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 05:14:13 PM: Thank you miss karen i did not know this. lol a bunch of punks now i know.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: dr.chimps on October 04, 2006, 05:22:17 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 05:14:13 PM
Thank you miss karen i did not know this. lol a bunch of punks now i know.
So why are asking to play? We didn't call for you. Scram.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: HowieW on October 04, 2006, 06:20:16 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 04, 2006, 04:21:28 PM
I have 7 years of college. I was pissed at the bullshit i read. cant onyme answer for himself. and why do a bunch of bitches have to open there gators. are you ladys on your off cycle. little rage i know im in the strongman at the arnolds. and ill be glad to show you real power. ps enough said

Yes but did you get a degree? Or just show up to use the school gym ;)
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Alex23 on October 04, 2006, 06:22:58 PM: Quote from: TheBlockHead on October 04, 2006, 02:00:09 PM
Just what this board needs...a TOOL from Moundsville, WV who can't type.

Get the fk out of here ball bag...go to Mayhem.

For a guy who's on thin ice, one step away from timeout, you're acting up quite a bit...
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: knny187 on October 05, 2006, 09:57:58 AM: Onlyme.....

answer this fool
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2006, 11:09:20 AM: "Christ! Seven years of college down the drain!" -Bluto
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: texasRUSH on October 05, 2006, 11:11:53 AM: IQ's are sure to drop after reading that?

i'm still trying to figure out wtf he just said! ???
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Blockhead on October 05, 2006, 11:22:16 AM: Quote from: Alex23 on October 04, 2006, 06:22:58 PM
For a guy who's on thin ice, one step away from timeout, you're acting up quite a bit...
Hey...Hey...TheBlockHead is all about ONE thing...when you look at TheBlockHead you see only ONE thing...love. TheBlockHead is all about LOVE! I don't drink 'Haterade' anymore. I drink KOOLAID...'RED' flavor. Not cherry...not strawberry...'RED'.

Hey Alex you look like Meatloaf with downsyndrome. Check your chromosones there, slick...cut your hair hippie.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 02:18:44 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 03, 2006, 09:09:36 PM
>:(whos the guy thats running cleve dean down first of all you didnt beat him in vegas at the over the top tounament.2nd of all you said rick zumwalt and john pulled for the truck thats also wrong it was edd arnold and john . cleve did not pull for the truck because he was not a teamster cleve dean came back this year at age 52 and won the nationals and worlds no one and i mean no one can beat him if you like he will be at the arnolds show us how bad you are or ill just armwrestle you myself neil robinson

I never said Cleve pulled John in truckers division. FIrst of all I didn't even care who was in that division cause I know I wasn't. John won the truck and I think Eddie Arnold complained because John didn't have truckers license or something like that not sure exactly what happend.

I did beat Cleve and you ask every person there including Marvin Cohen (the promoter) who won that match and they will say me. Now here comes the politics. After the match was over which was over a minute long, the referees decided to call a foul on me for touching my arm with my shoulder (this was after declaring me the winner). They wanted a Scott Norton/Cleve Dean final and they had no idea I was going to do that to Cleve. I complained to Marvin who was the promoter (and later I became 1/3 owner of the IAC with Marvin). I was defitnieoly not the favortie going into this event. But after beating a guy from Florida who I can't remember his name and Bruce Wey and a couple other guys I was a contender. Marvin said he had to do what he had to do. He said Keith if Cleve agrees to amrwrestle you again in a rematch then I will let you do it. I went over to Cleve and he was with his doctor that traveled with him (Cleve weighed about 660 then). and the doctor profussly told me NO WAY would he allow Cleve to get back up there. I looked at Cleve and he said no way. So, I ended up lsing. SO you are right in saying I didn't officially beat Cleve, but in reality I did and it is something I was proud of.

And were you at the Over The Top in Vegas. And who is going to the Arnold Cleve? I haven't armwrestled in 20 years. Is Cleve going to armwrestle their. He will get killed if he does. I am pretty sure Travis Bagent will kill him as will most other guys. I would think he is over the hill now.

This a pic from Over The Top event.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 02:23:02 PM: By the way I did wrestle Cleve one time before in Beverly Hills. He destroyed me but it was funny. It was my frst tournament after quitting before. They asked me to enter the first Over The Top event in BH. So I did just to do it and got destroyed. It was then I decided to start training again and enter the Denver event and took first after beating Mike Shaddock from New York and John Brezenk. That is how I qualified for the finals in Vegas
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 02:40:57 PM: aas to your question yes cleve is going. and as for your knowledge of the sport you dont have a clue cleve came out of retirement and claimed the nationals and worlds. the difference in you and cleve if you did put your shoulder on your arm it is a foul you lose to a man totally out of shape at the time i was there my armwrestling coach was the final ref for the truck and in the movie. his name is bob rogers. what is your name so i can ask cleve. and as far as travis he will tell you not only cleve but 5 to 6 others have beat him this year alone john berzynk has beat travis everytime they meet. tell me your name if im wrong i will say im sorry but i still think your full of shit.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: knny187 on October 05, 2006, 02:55:45 PM: Keith Jones is not full of shit

take it back!

>:(
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 03:05:15 PM: well keith jones you are you said you beat john bryzenk in a qualifier john won the first one he was in and you were not allowed to pull in another one if you already won one explain that.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 03:07:45 PM: knny187 wipe your tears sally :'( lol
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: bmacsys on October 05, 2006, 04:02:25 PM: Quote from: tommywishbone on October 05, 2006, 11:09:20 AM
"Christ! Seven years of college down the drain!" -Bluto

Blutarski had a GPA of 0.0. Classic!
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: tommywishbone on October 05, 2006, 05:02:07 PM: Quote from: bmacsys on October 05, 2006, 04:02:25 PM
Blutarski had a GPA of 0.0. Classic!

;D ;D

"Mr. Blutolski, zero point zero." -Dean Wormer... Faber College
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 05:10:09 PM: keith jones lol i just got off the phone with bob rogers he was in new york at the qualifier his daughter lori won and jouhn won that also . so prove to me that you beat john or cleve heres 2 web sites for anybody to find out how good cleve dean still is www. american armsport association .com or www. armwrestling.com ps how about a comment keith
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Miss Karen on October 05, 2006, 05:16:57 PM: Neil ya still thinking this place is real,Wrong it's a place for FOOLS.Just take some time to read some posts you will work it out.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: youandme on October 05, 2006, 05:26:52 PM: Quote from: Miss Karen on October 05, 2006, 05:16:57 PM
Neil ya still thinking this place is real,Wrong it's a place for FOOLS.Just take some time to read some posts you will work it out.

O RLY?
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Miss Karen on October 05, 2006, 05:31:50 PM: Ya see Neil like this Stalker another Fukin Clown.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: knny187 on October 05, 2006, 05:44:26 PM: You must have your information wrong buddy.

Onlyme is our champion arm wrassler here on GetBig
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 05:44:43 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 02:40:57 PM
aas to your question yes cleve is going. and as for your knowledge of the sport you dont have a clue cleve came out of retirement and claimed the nationals and worlds. the difference in you and cleve if you did put your shoulder on your arm it is a foul you lose to a man totally out of shape at the time i was there my armwrestling coach was the final ref for the truck and in the movie. his name is bob rogers. what is your name so i can ask cleve. and as far as travis he will tell you not only cleve but 5 to 6 others have beat him this year alone john berzynk has beat travis everytime they meet. tell me your name if im wrong i will say im sorry but i still think your full of shit.

Dude I haven't followed armwrestling since 1987. The only reason I know who travis is because I do flip the channels and saw it on TV a few times. I did here Cleve lost allot of weight and was down to mid 300's. And the shoulder to the arm was bullshit cause I didn't do it. That was the whole problem. And yes I do believ Cleve was out of shape but even then he is a strong as anyone and he was a 9 time world champ. My name is Keith Jones. I am pretty sure he might not remember me name but describe the match and I am pretty sure he'll remember. I think I remember Bob ROdgers but not sure.

Anyway ask Cleve. If he remembers then I am sure he will tell you the truth and it will match my story. I hope Cleve kicks ass there. It is always nice to make a comeback and I didn't realze he was 52.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 05:49:11 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 03:05:15 PM
well keith jones you are you said you beat john bryzenk in a qualifier john won the first one he was in and you were not allowed to pull in another one if you already won one explain that.

He did not win the first one. Please don't try to debate me on this cause you'll lose. He took 2nd place until the last event. I won the Super Heavy in Denver. It was the first event because the Beverly Hills event was not a qualifier it was more of an exhibition tournament to announce the tournament. Even though I beat JohnI did find out later that John took second place on purpose at every Over the Top event till the last one. Once you win you weren't allowed to compete in another one. Frst place paid $1,000 second place paid $500. He took 2nd place in every event in 2 or 3 weight classes on purpose so he could keep competing and make money too. That is the only reason I beat him. John was unreal but at the time I didn't really know who he was cause I never really followed it. I found out that he did that and it took some wind out of my sails but I lke saying I beat him.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 05:51:38 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 05, 2006, 05:10:09 PM
keith jones lol i just got off the phone with bob rogers he was in new york at the qualifier his daughter lori won and jouhn won that also . so prove to me that you beat john or cleve heres 2 web sites for anybody to find out how good cleve dean still is www. american armsport association .com or www. armwrestling.com ps how about a comment keith

I never competed outside of California except for the Denver event and then the Texas one, so I don't know why you are saying New York. Never been there. And like I said on record I didn't beat Cleve but in reality I did and I know it as did everyone else there. So that is a mute issue now. And the above explains John.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 05:52:26 PM: Neil Larson is this your real name too.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: sgt. d on October 05, 2006, 05:56:24 PM: Quote from: onlyme on October 05, 2006, 05:49:11 PM
He did not win the first one. Please don't try to debate me on this cause you'll lose. He took 2nd place until the last event. I won the Super Heavy in Denver. It was the first event because the Beverly Hills event was not a qualifier it was more of an exhibition tournament to announce the tournament. Even though I beat JohnI did find out later that John took second place on purpose at every Over the Top event till the last one. Once you win you weren't allowed to compete in another one. Frst place paid $1,000 second place paid $500. He took 2nd place in every event in 2 or 3 weight classes on purpose so he could keep competing and make money too. That is the only reason I beat him. John was unreal but at the time I didn't really know who he was cause I never really followed it. I found out that he did that and it took some wind out of my sails but I lke saying I beat him.

Only 1,000 dollars for first place? What kind of "sport" is that? ???
Onlyme how did you make it with limited funds? :'(
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: dr.chimps on October 05, 2006, 06:14:10 PM: Quote from: tommywishbone on October 05, 2006, 05:02:07 PM
;D ;D

"Mr. Blutolski, zero point zero." -Dean Wormer... Faber College
Time to put the lads on double, secret probation. ;D
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: bmacsys on October 05, 2006, 07:24:28 PM: Quote from: dr.chimps on October 05, 2006, 06:14:10 PM
Time to put the lads on double, secret probation. ;D

The other guy didn't even have a GPA!
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 06, 2006, 12:47:56 AM: here is a link to a thread wheere I told this exact story.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=34685.100 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=34685.100)

I told it exactly back a year as I did now. It is exactly howit happened. And I am sure their are pics of it to prove it along with video. good luck finding it. Call Marvin Cohen or get ahold of the staff photgrapher Andrew Gomez. They had dozens of pics of me and I am sure their is video. It was 20 years ago so I lost interest. Cleve was an awesome armwrestler without a doubt and if he does come back at that age and he is lighter then that would be awesome. And I do remember Bob Rodgers. I just got off the phone and my friend who also competed in the Vegas event reminded me about Bob Rodgers. He was a referee is that right? And in fact I think he was the referee in my match against Cleve. Ask him if he remembers the match. If not I will then explain.

Also, somewhere on here I explained why I beat John Brezenk too. I said on here already I found out he purposely threw the matches.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: neil robinson on October 06, 2006, 08:53:56 AM: ok maybe i went overboard but it seemed to me you were running cleve down. because he was a serious contender for the part
. i no this much because i have a copy of the first script. im 6 foot 7 350lbs i curl 175 2 sets 6 with my right arm and i have beatin everyone but john and cleve. and cleve is way past his prime and still no one can beat him if he comes in shape. ps i seen and others seen last march cleve curl 225 with his right and 215 with his right. he never really lifted when he was young. just thinking wow what he could of curled at ages 18 to 30.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: tommywishbone on October 06, 2006, 11:21:02 AM: Quote from: bmacsys on October 05, 2006, 07:24:28 PM
The other guy didn't even have a GPA!
;D ;D

That guy was, Daniel Simpson Day aka "D-Day" whereabouts unknown.

A very young Bruce Mcgill, very good charactrer actor who works a hell of a lot in Hollywood.:www.imdb.com/name/nm0569226/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0569226/)
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: tommywishbone on October 06, 2006, 11:22:59 AM: Cleve Dean update:www.armwrestling.com/Cleve.html (http://www.armwrestling.com/Cleve.html)
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: onlyme on October 06, 2006, 12:58:22 PM: Quote from: neil robinson on October 06, 2006, 08:53:56 AM
ok maybe i went overboard but it seemed to me you were running cleve down. because he was a serious contender for the part
. i no this much because i have a copy of the first script. im 6 foot 7 350lbs i curl 175 2 sets 6 with my right arm and i have beatin everyone but john and cleve. and cleve is way past his prime and still no one can beat him if he comes in shape. ps i seen and others seen last march cleve curl 225 with his right and 215 with his right. he never really lifted when he was young. just thinking wow what he could of curled at ages 18 to 30.

#1 I wouldn't put down any armwrestler, especially Cleve Dean. Jeez the guy is the recognized armwrestler ever. He made it known worldwide cause of Petaluma. And man you are huge guy. You would have been a sight to see at the table. Everyone used to tell me cause of my style (inside) I would have done very well in Petaluma. And I did consider it but it just didn't pay well and I wasn't a super serious guy about this. I did it for fun and it just so happen to pay off for me. Anyway good luck at the Arnold and now at least if I see armwrestling on the TV again I can look out for someone I know the name of. I really don't know anyone name but Travis and I never met his either.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Gym Rat on December 06, 2022, 11:46:27 AM: Loved the old-school 70's/80's arm wrestling...

Cleve was also in 1st two WSM contests. A young Jan Todd in the pic w/ Cleve.
Jan still runs the show for the Arnold Strongman and Rogue events. Great lady.

(https://cdn.growingamerica.com/media%2F2019%2F08%2FLHCleveDean.jpg)
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: joswift on December 06, 2022, 03:19:30 PM: (https://cdn.growingamerica.com/media%2F2019%2F08%2FLHCleveDean.jpg)

Tarzan star Ron Ely looking on
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Hulkotron on December 06, 2022, 03:26:13 PM: What was the deal with Cleve Dean?

He looks like just a big fat guy but evidently he was very strong.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: joswift on December 06, 2022, 03:41:27 PM: Peter Griffin
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 08, 2022, 02:11:29 AM: Quote from: Hulkotron on December 06, 2022, 03:26:13 PM
What was the deal with Cleve Dean?

He looks like just a big fat guy but evidently he was very strong.
Very very strong.
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: MAXX on December 08, 2022, 02:53:53 AM: Quote from: Hulkotron on December 06, 2022, 03:26:13 PM
What was the deal with Cleve Dean?

He looks like just a big fat guy but evidently he was very strong.
farmboy strong, working manual labour on a farm with his hands... just super sized farmboy. Fat but also large/thick bonestructure with gorilla hands. Which is obviously advantage in armwrestling. If I remember right he beat Brzenk a time or two in his heyday
Title: Re: cleve dean
Post by: BB on December 08, 2022, 08:10:30 AM: Quote from: Hulkotron on December 06, 2022, 03:26:13 PM
What was the deal with Cleve Dean?

He looks like just a big fat guy but evidently he was very strong.

Yeah, as mentioned, it was one of those "farmer strong" things. He relatively wasn't that good at weightlifting things, but was good at odd strength related things. At the 79 WSM he did pretty well at the truck pull, fridge carry, vertical weight pull, and bar bend. Some of them, like the vertical and truck pull, his massive weight helped, because he'd lean in. He was #450ish during that year, and just massive. He spent a lot of time at #400 plus pounds, and it hurt him later in life, died somewhat early and had joint problems.

At around 6:30ish, you can see how massive he was, especially in the hands and wrists -

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