My Observations:
- It didn't matter how Ronnie and Jay looked on Friday -- the judges gave Jay straight 1's all the way. Even if Ronnie got tighter and Jay got weaker on Saturday, the outcome would have been the same.
- How on earth does Jay achieve that low level of BF without a vein in sight? I know naturals with better vascularity. Definitely no Munzer.
- Ronnie absolutely crushes Jay in the front double biceps, the most muscular, the front lat spread, the side biceps, and the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are close. Could somebody please explain exactly which poses Jay crushes Ronnie on and how it adds up to dethroning the champ?
- People who are doubting that Ronnie was told prior to the finals that he was not going to win shouldn't be too surprised. The judges scorecards after the prejudging is not considered a closely guarded secret. All it takes is one of the 17 (or so) judges to tell a friend/spouse/hooker and the word is out. With Jay's Friday scores in the bag, Ronnie had no chance to win.
- Ronnie should hang it up, not because he is no longer an awesome bodybuilder, but because this is the typical IFBB writing on the wall for him. Once the powers-that-be make up their minds about someone, it's over for them. For reference, see Nasser. Or Gustavo. Or Mustafa. Or Arntz. Sure, sucking up can still do wonders (See Kamali. Or Victor. Or Cutler) but Ronnie has too much pride to suck kock at this stage of his career. If he had any dignity, he'd pull a Marvelous Marvin Hagler and never compete again.
- Ronnie and Jay is an apples-to-apples comparison. So we're still stuck with apples. If we're gonna pick apples, let's at least pick the biggest, freakiest apple (Ruhl) to win. Otherwise, let's just pick an orange (Melvin) and dictate the change back to a symmetrical, aesthetic Mr. Olympia. Oh yeah, I forgot. Markus lives in Germany and won't be able to guest pose for $500 every weekend for the judges' own promotions/contests.
That's it. My mouth to God's ears. Deal with the truth.
Special "Straight Shooter" Ed
Someone sounds a little bitter.
What happened to the funny observations and posts? This hurt and bitter Special Ed sucks.
Watching Ronnies Moses routine, I saw why he lost. His arms looked atrophied and his stomach was never sucked in, not once. Video portrays reality much better then still photographs. In video Ronnie looks soft and sloppy and realeases his stomach between every pose, wear cutler is tight as a drum.
Special'Look Into My Eyes What Do You See' Ed needs to be writing this stuff for a magazine like MD and be paid for his work instead of horsing around with our dumbasses...you would be the one to know he is in fact a man wouldn't you.
He is a MAN among boys here.
Special'Look Into My Eyes What Do You See' Ed needs to be writing this stuff for a magazine like MD and be paid for his work instead of horsing around with our dumbasses...
He is a MAN among boys here.
you would be the one to know he is in fact a man wouldn't you.Shhhh! Quiet! Special'Here's $20 don't tell anybody' Ed and I are close...really, really CLOSE!
My Observations:
- It didn't matter how Ronnie and Jay looked on Friday -- the judges gave Jay straight 1's all the way. Even if Ronnie got tighter and Jay got weaker on Saturday, the outcome would have been the same.
- How on earth does Jay achieve that low level of BF without a vein in sight? I know naturals with better vascularity. Definitely no Munzer.
- Ronnie absolutely crushes Jay in the front double biceps, the most muscular, the front lat spread, the side biceps, and the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are close. Could somebody please explain exactly which poses Jay crushes Ronnie on and how it adds up to dethroning the champ?
- People who are doubting that Ronnie was told prior to the finals that he was not going to win shouldn't be too surprised. The judges scorecards after the prejudging is not considered a closely guarded secret. All it takes is one of the 17 (or so) judges to tell a friend/spouse/hooker and the word is out. With Jay's Friday scores in the bag, Ronnie had no chance to win.
- Ronnie should hang it up, not because he is no longer an awesome bodybuilder, but because this is the typical IFBB writing on the wall for him. Once the powers-that-be make up their minds about someone, it's over for them. For reference, see Nasser. Or Gustavo. Or Mustafa. Or Arntz. Sure, sucking up can still do wonders (See Kamali. Or Victor. Or Cutler) but Ronnie has too much pride to suck kock at this stage of his career. If he had any dignity, he'd pull a Marvelous Marvin Hagler and never compete again.
- Ronnie and Jay is an apples-to-apples comparison. So we're still stuck with apples. If we're gonna pick apples, let's at least pick the biggest, freakiest apple (Ruhl) to win. Otherwise, let's just pick an orange (Melvin) and dictate the change back to a symmetrical, aesthetic Mr. Olympia. Oh yeah, I forgot. Markus lives in Germany and won't be able to guest pose for $500 every weekend for the judges' own promotions/contests.
That's it. My mouth to God's ears. Deal with the truth.
Special "Straight Shooter" Ed
Thanks for the compliments. But to everyone who thinks I'm 240, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Although Robo and I are friendly, we live 1500 miles apart. Trust me, one wife and kid are enough.
Even though sometimes we sound the same (we both have heightened bullshit detectors), there are a few differences:
1. 240 thinks the WTC Towers were rigged with explosives. I disagree.
2. 240 thinks 'Loose Change' is the gospel. I think 'Groundhog Day' is the gospel.
3. 240 doles out websites for sound legal advice. I dole out sound legal advice for websites.
4. 240 thinks the Pentagon was hit by a missile. I believe my mom when she says she watched the plane hit the building from her seat at work in DC.
5. 240 thinks Kelly did it in the bedroom with the stungun. I think it was Craig in the gym with the powerblock.
6. 240 is armed and dangerous. My underarms are dangerous.
7. 240 has never met the pros he pokes fun at. I have, and he's right, they're all dicks.
8. 240 provides good, quick websites for $300. I provide lousy, quick sex for free.
9. 240's baby will be the youngest kid ever to have a Flash website. My baby is 2 and I still haven't painted his room yet.
10. 240 thinks PDI is good for Pro bodybuilding. I think steroids are good for pro bodybuilding.
Special "250 or Bust" Ed
Thanks for the compliments. But to everyone who thinks I'm 240, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Although Robo and I are friendly, we live 1500 miles apart. Trust me, one wife and kid are enough.
Even though sometimes we sound the same (we both have heightened bullshit detectors), there are a few differences:
1. 240 thinks the WTC Towers were rigged with explosives. I disagree.
2. 240 thinks 'Loose Change' is the gospel. I think 'Groundhog Day' is the gospel.
3. 240 doles out websites for sound legal advice. I dole out sound legal advice for websites.
4. 240 thinks the Pentagon was hit by a missile. I believe my mom when she says she watched the plane hit the building from her seat at work in DC.
5. 240 thinks Kelly did it in the bedroom with the stungun. I think it was Craig in the gym with the powerblock.
6. 240 is armed and dangerous. My underarms are dangerous.
7. 240 has never met the pros he pokes fun at. I have, and he's right, they're all dicks.
8. 240 provides good, quick websites for $300. I provide lousy, quick sex for free.
9. 240's baby will be the youngest kid ever to have a Flash website. My baby is 2 and I still haven't painted his room yet.
10. 240 thinks PDI is good for Pro bodybuilding. I think steroids are good for pro bodybuilding.
Special "250 or Bust" Ed
[/quote} Fucking AWESOME! Special' Singing in the Rain' Ed got muthfkn GAME!
Ronnies arms looked freakier then ever on sat night, what the F*$k you talking about.
Thanks for the compliments. But to everyone who thinks I'm 240, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Although Robo and I are friendly, we live 1500 miles apart. Trust me, one wife and kid are enough.
Even though sometimes we sound the same (we both have heightened bullshit detectors), there are a few differences:
1. 240 thinks the WTC Towers were rigged with explosives. I disagree.
2. 240 thinks 'Loose Change' is the gospel. I think 'Groundhog Day' is the gospel.
3. 240 doles out websites for sound legal advice. I dole out sound legal advice for websites.
4. 240 thinks the Pentagon was hit by a missile. I believe my mom when she says she watched the plane hit the building from her seat at work in DC.
5. 240 thinks Kelly did it in the bedroom with the stungun. I think it was Craig in the gym with the powerblock.
6. 240 is armed and dangerous. My underarms are dangerous.
7. 240 has never met the pros he pokes fun at. I have, and he's right, they're all dicks.
8. 240 provides good, quick websites for $300. I provide lousy, quick sex for free.
9. 240's baby will be the youngest kid ever to have a Flash website. My baby is 2 and I still haven't painted his room yet.
10. 240 thinks PDI is good for Pro bodybuilding. I think steroids are good for pro bodybuilding.
Special "250 or Bust" Ed
Another true post by240Special Ed
Both posts by Ed were great!
I agree...Jay didn't win because he was better, he won because Ron was getting boring for the judges and PR room. And to those who keep posting the pic of him right before the show - stop. That pic makes him look like hell. Huge GH head. No chest. Bits of gyno. Irregular abs. No forearms. Fucked up coloring (he's black with blue eyes and blond hair? and upper body lighter than lower, and blotchy). No veins. Big traps/shoulders. Dry and lean to the point of overdoing it and loosing muscle, but no veins and no serious stirations -- how does that work??
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99695.0;attach=107628;image)
And nearly all the comparison shots show Ron as bigger and better.
My Observations:
- It didn't matter how Ronnie and Jay looked on Friday -- the judges gave Jay straight 1's all the way. Even if Ronnie got tighter and Jay got weaker on Saturday, the outcome would have been the same.
- How on earth does Jay achieve that low level of BF without a vein in sight? I know naturals with better vascularity. Definitely no Munzer.
- Ronnie absolutely crushes Jay in the front double biceps, the most muscular, the front lat spread, the side biceps, and the rear lat spread and rear double biceps are close. Could somebody please explain exactly which poses Jay crushes Ronnie on and how it adds up to dethroning the champ?
- People who are doubting that Ronnie was told prior to the finals that he was not going to win shouldn't be too surprised. The judges scorecards after the prejudging is not considered a closely guarded secret. All it takes is one of the 17 (or so) judges to tell a friend/spouse/hooker and the word is out. With Jay's Friday scores in the bag, Ronnie had no chance to win.
- Ronnie should hang it up, not because he is no longer an awesome bodybuilder, but because this is the typical IFBB writing on the wall for him. Once the powers-that-be make up their minds about someone, it's over for them. For reference, see Nasser. Or Gustavo. Or Mustafa. Or Arntz. Sure, sucking up can still do wonders (See Kamali. Or Victor. Or Cutler) but Ronnie has too much pride to suck kock at this stage of his career. If he had any dignity, he'd pull a Marvelous Marvin Hagler and never compete again.
- Ronnie and Jay is an apples-to-apples comparison. So we're still stuck with apples. If we're gonna pick apples, let's at least pick the biggest, freakiest apple (Ruhl) to win. Otherwise, let's just pick an orange (Melvin) and dictate the change back to a symmetrical, aesthetic Mr. Olympia. Oh yeah, I forgot. Markus lives in Germany and won't be able to guest pose for $500 every weekend for the judges' own promotions/contests.
That's it. My mouth to God's ears. Deal with the truth.
Special "Straight Shooter" Ed
he actually lifts weights unlike 240. :-\
he actually lifts weights unlike 240. :-\
Dav "time to get back on" Bol
One thing that needs to be said that no one is mentioning. Where in the fucking rule book does it say you get higher placments for being vascular? Flex Wheeler never had a vein run through his entire body even on the rare occasion when he had striated glutes. By your rationale Heiko whatever the f**k his last name is and Paco Bautista should be winning contests against guys who have better backs, legs- including hams and calves, abs and delts because they are vascular and have veins running through half their bodies. Half you retards yelling about this being vascular nonsense are the same ones saying melvin anthony or Victor martinez should have taken home the title or beaten Jay. Are they more vascular than jay?
That is all.
Thanks for the compliments. But to everyone who thinks I'm 240, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Although Robo and I are friendly, we live 1500 miles apart. Trust me, one wife and kid are enough.
Even though sometimes we sound the same (we both have heightened bullshit detectors), there are a few differences:
1. 240 thinks the WTC Towers were rigged with explosives. I disagree.
2. 240 thinks 'Loose Change' is the gospel. I think 'Groundhog Day' is the gospel.
3. 240 doles out websites for sound legal advice. I dole out sound legal advice for websites.
4. 240 thinks the Pentagon was hit by a missile. I believe my mom when she says she watched the plane hit the building from her seat at work in DC.
5. 240 thinks Kelly did it in the bedroom with the stungun. I think it was Craig in the gym with the powerblock.
6. 240 is armed and dangerous. My underarms are dangerous.
7. 240 has never met the pros he pokes fun at. I have, and he's right, they're all dicks.
8. 240 provides good, quick websites for $300. I provide lousy, quick sex for free.
9. 240's baby will be the youngest kid ever to have a Flash website. My baby is 2 and I still haven't painted his room yet.
10. 240 thinks PDI is good for Pro bodybuilding. I think steroids are good for pro bodybuilding.
Special "250 or Bust" Ed
let me guess ed,I'm neither a Coleman fan nor a Cutler fan. I'm just calling it the way I see it. So put down your XS Team Cutler shirt and relax.
you're a coleman fan, maybe thatswhy you missed ronnie looking like shit next to cutler, particularly on the back poses
All the clever writing in the world is not going to change the result!You have an astute command of the obvious.
Both posts by Ed were great!EPIC RETARDED POST...dude just deal with this fact..JAY BEAT COLEMAN.....dude jays back made ronnies back look like shit..ronnie virtually had no lats,his left triceps all fucked up and yes his left quad was all messed up too...jay was spot and that resulted in beating marshmelow coleman..DEAL WITH IT
I agree...Jay didn't win because he was better, he won because Ron was getting boring for the judges and PR room. And to those who keep posting the pic of him right before the show - stop. That pic makes him look like hell. Huge GH head. No chest. Bits of gyno. Irregular abs. No forearms. Fucked up coloring (he's black with blue eyes and blond hair? and upper body lighter than lower, and blotchy). No veins. Big traps/shoulders. Dry and lean to the point of overdoing it and loosing muscle, but no veins and no serious stirations -- how does that work??
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99695.0;attach=107628;image)
And nearly all the comparison shots show Ron as bigger and better.
More like: epic unbiased observations.BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
I don't like either Jay, nor Coleman. You are obviously a fan of Jays. Jay has more inherent disfigurement than a bad lat and tricep.
DEAL WITH IT
More like: epic unbiased observations.dude i used to be a big ronnie coleman fan but at this years olympia he dissappointed me alot...i am still shocked as ever that jay beat ronnie...i have to give the utmost respect to jay cutler by doing the unbelieveable...ronnies time is up...its always nice to support the champ and NOT THE LOSER...in this case ronnie lost fair and square...so its jay all the way...
I don't like either Jay, nor Coleman. You are obviously a fan of Jays. Jay has more inherent disfigurement than a bad lat and tricep.
DEAL WITH IT
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
Shall I call you "lemming" or "fair weather fan" then?dude i always supported jay in past as well and in the past ronnie was never that off..he always had back to win the olympia even at 2002 olympia he had the sickest back in the contest and also at mr olympia 2001 ronnies back was too good to handle for jay and also the rest of his physiue was also too much for jay to handle..but at this years olympia ronnie was never near th ronnie of yesterdays years..jay was the clear cut winner and because of that i am respecting jay even more than ever beofre..ronnis on saturday looked all washed out and looked injured in almost every pose..its sad that ronnie had to end like that..JAY IS THE REAL KING NOW
You have an astute command of the obvious.
Special "Once I Invent the Time Machine, Jay Cutler will never be Mr. Olympia, BOOHAAHAHAAA" Ed
I give squat racks DOMS.