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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: brad_74 on October 05, 2006, 02:01:58 PM
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
congratulations, you just had a melt.down.
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Hahaha, it wouldn't be my first. I expected that to happen.
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That wasn't a "meltdown" hes just stateing a point. I agree with it too. Not many people look ok dieted down. not many people can diet down and go back to bulked and forth so much either.
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u are right..when they strip of the fat...water and some muscle u can really see the shitty structure asymetries etc...at the same time...if only the phisycally gifted would compete in sports then there would be no sports
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Not everybody's going to have a pro or even national level physique. Some people shouldn't leave the state level.
But competing is one way to really push your physique to as good a level as you can. I did it for 5 years in the NPC at the state and regional level; I had no misconceptions that I had great genetics, but the discipline you find committing to that is mind blowing. After doing a few pre-contest diets, working overtime is nothing ;D
I really think everyone who really considers themself a hardcore bodybuilder should try dieting down and stepping on a stage.
Do be realistic, though. Some people are not able to look at themselves objectively.
Yes, Vince ;D, I'm talking to you...
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This is absolutely true. Too many people think they can compete as a bodybuilder if they train and take lots of drugs, when in reality only a very few really have the genetic potential to be any good at it, just as would be true at the elite levels of any sport.
Anyone can (and should, IMO) train to look their best but only a very small number have the potential to be any good competitively. When you look at the caliber even of many IFBB pros today, it's not hard to see that we've strayed from that ideal.
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u are right..when they strip of the fat...water and some muscle u can really see the shitty structure asymetries etc...at the same time...if only the phisycally gifted would compete in sports then there would be no sports
True, if only the genitcally gifted particapated then lots of things wouldn't exsist.
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Who cares????.If somebody wants to compete they compete, as if what you think bothers them.
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u are negative karen...again...say something nice...anything
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Who cares????.If somebody wants to compete they compete, as if what you think bothers them.
you forgot fuckstick!
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u are negative karen...again...say something nice...anything
haha yeah, were not trying to bother anyone.
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
i thought both Adonis and Arvilla looked very good, neither one of them claimed to be a drug stuffed IFBB pro onstage.
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
Wrong!! very few people compete worldwide very few follow b.b...... main reason why b.b is not featured on ESPN or any news... nobody really gives shit!!!
the number of pro soccer and baseballs players playing worldwide is "unreal" because of the number of people following it world wide is "unreal" as well....
For example,who cares about b.b in your family?
maybe you an u little cousin Vinny.
Sad but "monster" true
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Excellent topic; I recently noticed that people who were naturally lean at an early age will normally look good once they diet down; it's usually the one that were chubby kids (ie natural endomorph) who tend to look worst...
To add to this, some people like Adosnatch have such poor facial bone structure that a role in Lord of The rings become an option once dieted down...
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Negative read ya post you are the one saying people look like shit when dieted down.What the fuk are you talking about me negative I said as if they the competitors give a shit what you clowns think. OK fUCKSTICK.
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Negative read ya post you are the one saying people look like shit when dieted down.What the f**k are you talking about me negative I said as if they the competitors give a shit what you clowns think. OK fUCKSTICK.
If there was a smiley dude putting his hands up in fear...I would use it right there.
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i thought both Adonis and Arvilla looked very good, neither one of them claimed to be a drug stuffed IFBB pro onstage.
They just don`t get it.
Its hillarious actually, since if I ever did want to do the Natural Organizations, I know I would do VERY well.
You can easily compare my pics to many natural competitors and even some winners and see how nicely I fit in.
I am glad though for all of this.
We outed Danielson,El Spiko and some of the others and made them post pics, then they realized just how far off the mark they really are. Good Stuff my friend.
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Tons of people compete worldwide........
hahahahahahahahaha!
Wooooosssshhhhh
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hahahahahahahahaha!
Dude, why would you pic a handle like "Pet Shop Boys"? They were the most blatant bunch of queers in 80's rock and thats saying a lot.
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They just don`t get it.
Its hillarious actually, since if I ever did want to do the Natural Organizations, I know I would do VERY well.
You can easily compare my pics to many natural competitors and even some winners and see how nicely I fit in.
I am glad though for all of this.
We outed Danielson,El Spiko and some of the others and made them post pics, then they realized just how far off the mark they really are. Good Stuff my friend.
Your pics are with perfect lighting. You have NO idea what stage lighting would do to you.
You have pinchable fat around your navel.
Do you not see that? You ARE NOT that lean. Getting on stage would show it, and you know it.
Pussy.
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Your pics are with perfect lighting. You have NO idea what stage lighting would do to you.
You have pinchable fat around your navel.
Do you not see that? You ARE NOT that lean. Getting on stage would show it, and you know it.
Pussy.
Stage Lighting is even better!
ITs brighter and brings out detail.
You are clueless.
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Your pics are with perfect lighting. You have NO idea what stage lighting would do to you.
You have pinchable fat around your navel.
Do you not see that? You ARE NOT that lean. Getting on stage would show it, and you know it.
Pussy.
:o whoa!
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Stage Lighting is even better!
ITs brighter and brings out detail.
You are clueless.
WRONG.
Stage lighting is EXTREMELY bright. It is not from a single plane (overhead in your case) it is from all angles, designed to prevent shadowing.
In the 70's, overhead lighting was employed. But, not now.
Check out the '99 Grand Prix everyone goes crazy over.
People WERE NOT in better shape at that show. The lighting was better.
You have never been on a bbing stage. You have no idea.
You know I speak the truth. And you KNOW you were not that lean.
How's that navel fat feel?
Epic belly button depth.
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TA loves the dark and will never get on a real BB stage.
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WRONG.
Stage lighting is EXTREMELY bright. It is not from a single plain (overhead in your case) it is from all angles, designed to prevent shadowing.
In the 70's, overhead lighting was employed. But, not now.
Check out the '99 Grand Prix everyone goes crazy over.
People WERE NOT in better shape at that show. The lighting was better.
You have never been on a bbing stage. You have no idea.
You know I speak the truth. And you KNOW you were not that lean.
How's that navel fat feel?
Epic belly button depth.
Doison, im just wondering....are most shows equipt with lighting like that? even small ones like local shows?
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WRONG.
Stage lighting is EXTREMELY bright. It is not from a single plain (overhead in your case) it is from all angles, designed to prevent shadowing.
In the 70's, overhead lighting was employed. But, not now.
Check out the '99 Grand Prix everyone goes crazy over.
People WERE NOT in better shape at that show. The lighting was better.
You have never been on a bbing stage. You have no idea.
You know I speak the truth. And you KNOW you were not that lean.
How's that navel fat feel?
Epic belly button depth.
Clueless. Just like the rest of them.
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Clueless. Just like the rest of them.
you gotta take criticism. good and bad.
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Doison, im just wondering....are most shows equipt with lighting like that? even small ones like local shows?
Yes, most of hte shows are set up that way.
This is a large reason why everyone says "I looked better the day after."
No, they looked better in their bathroom with favorable lighting. They would look even worse on stage.
This is why kamali looks so insane in his hotel room and kitchen. And also why people wonder why people didn't "nail it" on stage, when they looked so good at the gym.
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Clueless. Just like the rest of them.
Do the Elite then.
They don't judge gaping belly buttons favorably though....
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Dude, why would you pic a handle like "Pet Shop Boys"? They were the most blatant bunch of queers in 80's rock and thats saying a lot.
Maybe they are, "in the projects" you live in.....
Woooooshhhhhhhhhh
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TA loves the dark and will never get on a real BB stage.
wwooooooaaaaaain !!! The Tigress has spoken the Truth. AdoWarts, why do you allways bring everything back to you? Some attention you need.
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Yes, most of hte shows are set up that way.
This is a large reason why everyone says "I looked better the day after."
No, they looked better in their bathroom with favorable lighting. They would look even worse on stage.
This is why kamali looks so insane in his hotel room and kitchen. And also why people wonder why people didn't "nail it" on stage, when they looked so good at the gym.
No idea what contests you are looking at but all the ones I have been to and watched, the stage lighting makes everyone look Great!
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
that is very true...people that think these top bodybuilders are just a product of drugs are completely clueless.
there are tons of guys in gyms all over the world who load up on drugs as much or more than any pro yet they would still look like complete garbage on a bodybuilding stage.
elite bodybuilders are genetically gifted...there is a very small percentage of people in the world who have what it takes to become a pro no matter how many drugs they take.
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Yeah right.
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
dude dont be a dick to kamali, you know he reads the boards
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There are lots of delusional people out there. Some people just can't come to terms with the fact that they aren't bodybuilders...they just lift weights. To make matters worse, these idiots will use a little bit of gear, think they are pharmacists and give out bad advice to everyone they can.
A little bit of knowledge in the wrong hands is dangerous.
There comes a point in someone's life when they have to make an honest assessment of themselves and say, "You know, I was not MEANT to be a bodybuilder. I don't have the genetics to compete." Some guys wake up and see reality...some don't. These delusional guys make me laugh.
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Competing for me is a contest with myself. I live and breathe bodybuilding. If grown accustomed to this lifestyle and will never change. I want to be pro more than anything in the world and I'm going to continue to work my ass off in order to make it happen. When looking great just isn't cutting it anymore, maybe its time to take it to the next level. Get bigger and then diet back down and see what the finished product looks like. Thats what this weird ass sport is all about for me.
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There comes a point in someone's life when they have to make an honest assessment of themselves and say, "You know, I was not MEANT to be a bodybuilder. I don't have the genetics to compete." Some guys wake up and see reality...some don't. These delusional guys make me laugh.
C'mon guys, I thought we were gonna stop picking on Kamali!
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Stage Lighting is even better!
ITs brighter and brings out detail.
You are clueless.
If I can just chime in hear for a second. Yes the lighting can or cannot help with how you look on stage, but the bottom line is you need to be in excellent, not good condition to look good on stage. And, in most cases, it's not the lighting that brings out a competitors flaws, but the competitor next to them. It's really not that difficult to look good when you are standing by yourself. Granted you are in shape, you will photograph well. Standing next to a competitor who may be 4 inches shorter than you, at the same weight with a waist 3 inches smaller than yours, better legs sweeps, wider clavicles, fuller arms..... You get the picture. Yes, you wont look that damn good anymore. I've learned this through experience. Often time guys in the gym look great, but they are standing next "average joe's" when they wind up onstage next to a bonafide competitor, it's a different story. Unless you've been onstage, please, don't talk about what you CAN do. Go ahead and do it. Don't leave anything to speculation. ;)
I think the initial point of the post was that most people really do not have what it takes to become "great" bodybuilders. Though this may be true, it does not hurt to try. I think anyone who has a desire to try, should. At the very least they will learn not only the amount of discipline necessary to compete, but how difficult it is to become a top-level bodybuilder. Also, when a competitor does get on stage, he (assuming he is not delusional) will understand whether or not he has worked, dieted and trained hard enough in comparison to his peers. I've seen many instances when young competitors have been so enthusiastic and confident of their work ethic, only to realize that the guy next to them has trained and dieted twice as hard. It is a nice but rude awakening, one that is at times needed.
Bottome line guys, seriously you can not compare how you look at home and in the gym to how others look on stage. If your that confident, do it, there are plenty of shows all year round for you guys to jump into.
Carlo Filippone
btw, this is not a personal attack on you Adonis, i'm relatively new to the boards and have never seen your pics.
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
You right bb isn't for most people - because most people don't have the dedication to lift weights, do cardio, and maintains a strick diet - PERIOD!! Most of the time folks will be able to stick maybe one or two of the three!!
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Negative read ya post you are the one saying people look like shit when dieted down.What the f**k are you talking about me negative I said as if they the competitors give a shit what you clowns think. OK fUCKSTICK.
constructive criticism....u are negative...by the way...hows your yeast infection? ;)
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Who cares????.If somebody wants to compete they compete, as if what you think bothers them.
Well what I think isn't going to bother them, nor should it. What should bother these "bbers" is that they are sacrificing so much in the diet (money, pleasure, freedom, muscle, and if you are juicing your health) that you don't enjoy the regular things in life. All for what.....to tell people your a bodybuilder, maybe write advice on bodybuilding.com. When in reality your phsique is nothing to ride home about.
I guess what my point is that for the HUGE majority of the population, bodybuilding is not something they should try to do.
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If I can just chime in hear for a second. Yes the lighting can or cannot help with how you look on stage, but the bottom line is you need to be in excellent, not good condition to look good on stage. And, in most cases, it's not the lighting that brings out a competitors flaws, but the competitor next to them. It's really not that difficult to look good when you are standing by yourself. Granted you are in shape, you will photograph well. Standing next to a competitor who may be 4 inches shorter than you, at the same weight with a waist 3 inches smaller than yours, better legs sweeps, wider clavicles, fuller arms..... You get the picture. Yes, you wont look that damn good anymore. I've learned this through experience. Often time guys in the gym look great, but they are standing next "average joe's" when they wind up onstage next to a bonafide competitor, it's a different story. Unless you've been onstage, please, don't talk about what you CAN do. Go ahead and do it. Don't leave anything to speculation. ;)
I think the initial point of the post was that most people really do not have what it takes to become "great" bodybuilders. Though this may be true, it does not hurt to try. I think anyone who has a desire to try, should. At the very least they will learn not only the amount of discipline necessary to compete, but how difficult it is to become a top-level bodybuilder. Also, when a competitor does get on stage, he (assuming he is not delusional) will understand whether or not he has worked, dieted and trained hard enough in comparison to his peers. I've seen many instances when young competitors have been so enthusiastic and confident of their work ethic, only to realize that the guy next to them has trained and dieted twice as hard. It is a nice but rude awakening, one that is at times needed.
Bottome line guys, seriously you can not compare how you look at home and in the gym to how others look on stage. If your that confident, do it, there are plenty of shows all year round for you guys to jump into.
Carlo Filippone
btw, this is not a personal attack on you Adonis, i'm relatively new to the boards and have never seen your pics.
Welcome to the board, Carlo.
You've done National level shows, right? And did good.
At what point, and time did you realize you had what it takes? Was it a rude awakening for you too, or did you assess the situation and do your homework before-hand?
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How's that navel fat feel?
Epic belly button depth.
TA suffers from a condition called belly button gyno. No matter how lean someone who suffers from this affliction becomes, there will remain a layer of fat encircling the navel. The only option is to get the gyno removed, by a medical procedure known as liposuction. Belly button gyno has been known to cause epic ranting on internet forums, due to the extremely estrogenic nature of these stubborn fat cells.
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everybody needs drugs to look good on stage
you could have a natural physique that looks great on a beach but on stage it just looks wrong
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Welcome to the board, Carlo.
You've done National level shows, right? And did good.
At what point, and time did you realize you had what it takes? Was it a rude awakening for you too, or did you assess the situation and do your homework before-hand?
Thanks! Yes, I do compete nationally. I placed 3rd last year at the nationals and won the 2004 N.A. Championships. Funny you ask that question. I began competing in 1992, basically on a dare. I was young and accepted the challenge. After doing well in my first few shows, I never would have imagined becoming a pro or a top level amateur. I trained in some gyms with some HUGE guys!! That being said, I never felt I would be or could be, big enough. Through the years I took time off to establish my business. In the process I kept training when I could. There were times were I would be out of the gym for months because my schedule did not allow it, as a matter of fact I once took off for 11 months. In 2000 I competed at the Jr. USA's after a 4 year lay-off and finished 3rd. I felt at the time that I got screwed, many thought I had won. Now, 6 years later I look at the video and realize that the judges probably weren't all that wrong. I can see how they placed me 3rd. I had decided after that show that I would train to improve my physique, not to compete. That's what I did, concentrating on all my weak points. In 2002, after not taking any layoffs, I began preparing for national level shows. I placed 2nd at the Junior Nationals and 5th at the USA's. This was rewarding, but I still did not believe I could be a pro, or even close. Since then, my physique has improved every year, however, it was not till last year that I realized I could in fact be a pro!! 13 years of training and many, many contests later, I realized that I had the potential to be a pro. I've always been honest with myself. I analyze my physique in comparison to others. I try to understand why a competitor like Jose Raymond beat me last year and not be bitter that he did. I try to make improvements so that every time I hit the stage, less people have the opportunity to beat me.
It's taken me a long time to get here. For someone just starting out, just set your goals and go get em. Be realistic however, this way you will not be disappointed if you fall short. Just having competed is a great accomplishment, every time you move up a level, it's a bigger accomplishment. Being a pro isn't for everybody, as a matter of fact, for many years I wouldn't even discuss it, I just wanted to be amongst the best in the country. There is nothing wrong with never having made it to the national level or become a pro. BUT..... if you've never been onstage, please do not believe for one second that it is easy.
Sorry to be lengthy.
Carlo
btw, my rude awakening came in 2003 at the junior nationals where I did not make the top 15, after having placed 2nd and 5th at 2 national shows the year before. However, that being said, I did not look good enough nor was I big enough to place in the top 15. A shitty feeling nonetheless, but, I worked harder because of it.
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No idea what contests you are looking at but all the ones I have been to and watched, the stage lighting makes everyone look Great!
I'll simplify it for you then Adam.
YOU won't look good on stage. Not even a little bit in the condition you were in for the Mr. Getbig.
You know this. That is why you won't get on stage.
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Oh Jesus, he mentioned Arvilla in his post. Incoming post from Arvilla with 383973878983 regurgitated pictures and 453 posts from Cheri proclaiming him Zeus and better than Ronnie.
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I agree with the topicstarter, they both looked pretty good before their contest but like shit dieted down.
Arvilla especially looks much healthyer and bigger on a higher bf.
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Thanks! Yes, I do compete nationally. I placed 3rd last year at the nationals and won the 2004 N.A. Championships. Funny you ask that question. I began competing in 1992, basically on a dare. I was young and accepted the challenge. After doing well in my first few shows, I never would have imagined becoming a pro or a top level amateur. I trained in some gyms with some HUGE guys!! That being said, I never felt I would be or could be, big enough. Through the years I took time off to establish my business. In the process I kept training when I could. There were times were I would be out of the gym for months because my schedule did not allow it, as a matter of fact I once took off for 11 months. In 2000 I competed at the Jr. USA's after a 4 year lay-off and finished 3rd. I felt at the time that I got screwed, many thought I had won. Now, 6 years later I look at the video and realize that the judges probably weren't all that wrong. I can see how they placed me 3rd. I had decided after that show that I would train to improve my physique, not to compete. That's what I did, concentrating on all my weak points. In 2002, after not taking any layoffs, I began preparing for national level shows. I placed 2nd at the Junior Nationals and 5th at the USA's. This was rewarding, but I still did not believe I could be a pro, or even close. Since then, my physique has improved every year, however, it was not till last year that I realized I could in fact be a pro!! 13 years of training and many, many contests later, I realized that I had the potential to be a pro. I've always been honest with myself. I analyze my physique in comparison to others. I try to understand why a competitor like Jose Raymond beat me last year and not be bitter that he did. I try to make improvements so that every time I hit the stage, less people have the opportunity to beat me.
It's taken me a long time to get here. For someone just starting out, just set your goals and go get em. Be realistic however, this way you will not be disappointed if you fall short. Just having competed is a great accomplishment, every time you move up a level, it's a bigger accomplishment. Being a pro isn't for everybody, as a matter of fact, for many years I wouldn't even discuss it, I just wanted to be amongst the best in the country. There is nothing wrong with never having made it to the national level or become a pro. BUT..... if you've never been onstage, please do not believe for one second that it is easy.
Sorry to be lengthy.
Carlo
btw, my rude awakening came in 2003 at the junior nationals where I did not make the top 15, after having placed 2nd and 5th at 2 national shows the year before. However, that being said, I did not look good enough nor was I big enough to place in the top 15. A shitty feeling nonetheless, but, I worked harder because of it.
Thanks for concise, honest answer. We need that around here, instead of individuals blowing their own horn, can learn something this way, instead of ego-massaging.
At what point in your competitive career did you decide you were gonna step up a level, in terms of AAS, meaning, how do you know its worth the risk/financial outlay? Its obviously a consideration, as a guy training for recreation/appearance and a competitor will have different goals, and require different cycles?
I'm obviously assuming you use anabolics, although its understandable if you do not wish to discuss the subject.
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They just don`t get it.
Its hillarious actually, since if I ever did want to do the Natural Organizations, I know I would do VERY well.
You can easily compare my pics to many natural competitors and even some winners and see how nicely I fit in.
I am glad though for all of this.
We outed Danielson,El Spiko and some of the others and made them post pics, then they realized just how far off the mark they really are. Good Stuff my friend.
::)
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Tons of people compete worldwide, but end up looking like complete shit. I personally think that when most people get to a very low bf% they look real bad. Take TA for example. Just not pleasing to the eye. Mike Arvilla. Looked bad very lean. I mean I had friends who played soccer whos legs kill "bodybuilders" physiques and they dont work out. They had a higher bf% but quads especially where twice the size as these guys. I think 99.99% of lifters should be happy being 7-10% bodyfat, maybe try competing once, and if you look like shit, be happy just being an avid weightlifter.
I'm not saying this because I think I'm a better bber that you. NO, I don't have the genetics and would look absolutely terrible at 4% bf. I would end up looking like a swimmer. Layne Norton even looks bad in my eyes.
Overall my point is this: Unless your genetics are unreal. You WILL look very unimpressive on a bbing stage.
one of the smartest and honest posts i've ever read.
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Thanks for concise, honest answer. We need that around here, instead of individuals blowing their own horn, can learn something this way, instead of ego-massaging.
At what point in your competitive career did you decide you were gonna step up a level, in terms of AAS, meaning, how do you know its worth the risk/financial outlay? Its obviously a consideration, as a guy training for recreation/appearance and a competitor will have different goals, and require different cycles?
I'm obviously assuming you use anabolics, although its understandable if you do not wish to discuss the subject.
Finances and health are and always will be my number one concern. I routinely get blood tests(4 per year) to make sure that all is in order. I have a great relationship with my physician which makes it much easier. I would like to think that my use is not abuse, but that is all relative to an individuals body and insides. Some people can "get away" with a lot more than others. I want to be clear that I use because I have a desire to be competetive at the level at which I am currently competing. I do not advocate any kind of use for recreation/appearance/vanity, EVER!!!! With the advances in supplementation and diet, if you are truly interested in health and enhancing your physique, you can do it, while retaining all of your gains naturally. Will you ever compete at the national level? Nope! But, you can develop a great physique which you can be proud of. Hope this helps. And guys, in the long run, just the fact that your emotions will not "rollercoaster" are worth the extra effort in maintaining a "clean" lifestyle. Some of the most difficult times for bodybuilders are the times when you "clean" yourself up, assuming, that they use their brains and "clean up." That's all i'll say here, but feel free to email me.
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BBing for rich man, to buy drugs, food, guaranteed income and such. Dugdale, Gh15, Dexter, Jay, Ronnie now etc.