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Title: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on July 16, 2008, 05:43:35 AM
I got 6% just for 3 days a couple of times...  :-[ So hard to be there, i was 71kg with 1'75m. Also, how u diet? I tried many things always with no carbs, just salad and protein... I've seen that when I take few protein (60gr per day), I'm like dead, of course I go down fast but also pathetic fast recovery to soft fat


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: CHEVEN on July 17, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
6% is about as low as you will be able to go naturally. Never will someone go 3% in a natural show.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: jonno gb on July 17, 2008, 12:20:39 PM
This was probably my lowest-5-6% at at a guess? Maintained it for quite a while maybe 6-7 weeks.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: bigdarksnake on July 19, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
Hey Jonno great physique. Got any more pics?


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on July 20, 2008, 04:46:20 AM
This was probably my lowest-5-6% at at a guess? Maintained it for quite a while maybe 6-7 weeks.

Great I think even 4%! Amazing


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: jonno gb on July 20, 2008, 11:31:54 AM
Hey Jonno great physique. Got any more pics?
Thanks,mate-appreciate that.This is a more typical off season shot.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: ConanCarl on July 31, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
Great physique-what type of cardio do you recommend? thx



Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: jonno gb on August 02, 2008, 10:42:54 AM
Great physique-what type of cardio do you recommend? thx


Thanks,mate.I try to do as little as possible but do about 40 minutes power walking first thing in the morning from about 6 weeks out. I have a cup of black coffee and 10 g of glutamine before hand .


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: AVBG on August 02, 2008, 11:45:18 AM
I really can't understand the fascination with numbers/percentages. The numbers are inaccurate, if I were to get calipered today by two different people the margin of difference could be out as far as 4% (I've seen this first hand).

BTW Jonno. Mate you look unreal 365 days a year.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: BIG ACH on August 02, 2008, 09:06:40 PM
I really can't understand the fascination with numbers/percentages. The numbers are inaccurate, if I were to get calipered today by two different people the margin of difference could be out as far as 4% (I've seen this first hand).

BTW Jonno. Mate you look unreal 365 days a year.

Agree 100% with that statement,  by the last few weeks before the show I wasn't measuring my bodyfat percentage at all and just going by the mirror, because as stated half the time the measurement is wrong!!!


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: haider on August 02, 2008, 09:12:09 PM
Agree 100% with that statement,  by the last few weeks before the show I wasn't measuring my bodyfat percentage at all and just going by the mirror, because as stated half the time the measurement is wrong!!!
what about tracking progress though? I'm not gonna question you guys since i have never seriously dieted down, but i think i would rather rely on something objective like a bodyfat measurement, and going by the mirror as confirmation. Ofcourse the measurement is off, but it should be pretty consistent no?


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: BIG ACH on August 02, 2008, 09:53:50 PM
what about tracking progress though? I'm not gonna question you guys since i have never seriously dieted down, but i think i would rather rely on something objective like a bodyfat measurement, and going by the mirror as confirmation. Ofcourse the measurement is off, but it should be pretty consistent no?

Yes bf% measurements, and the scale are excellent indications for tracking progress, like I said the last few weeks I stopped taking any bf measurements, but I was doing it earlier in my prep to monitor progress as you stated.  I weighed myself everyday, but the last few weeks was mainly for fun.

But really when you get to a point where you are like 4-3 weeks out, changes in the mirror are more important than changes on the scale.  I've seen too many people get too caught up with numbers.  You gotta remember that when you get on stage you don't step on a scale.

I've seen guys weigh less than all their fellow competitors on stage, but blow them all away just by the way they look, they will will weigh so much less but look ten times bigger, its all an illusion!


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: haider on August 02, 2008, 09:55:20 PM
Yes bf% measurements, and the scale are excellent indications for tracking progress, like I said the last few weeks I stopped taking any bf measurements, but I was doing it earlier in my prep to monitor progress as you stated.  I weighed myself everyday, but the last few weeks was mainly for fun.

But really when you get to a point where you are like 4-3 weeks out, changes in the mirror are more important than changes on the scale.  I've seen too many people get too caught up with numbers.  You gotta remember that when you get on stage you don't step on a scale.

I've seen guys weigh less than all their fellow competitors on stage, but blow them all away just by the way they look, they will will weigh so much less but look ten times bigger, its all an illusion!
thanks for the answer!


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: jonno gb on August 03, 2008, 11:30:55 AM
I really can't understand the fascination with numbers/percentages. The numbers are inaccurate, if I were to get calipered today by two different people the margin of difference could be out as far as 4% (I've seen this first hand).

BTW Jonno. Mate you look unreal 365 days a year.
Cheers,AVBG.In all honesty,my legs are not usually as sharp as in the pic but upper body is pretty similar.

I have only had my bodyfat measured once about 4 weeks from a show and it came out as 18% :P I haven't bothered since ;D


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: ConanCarl on August 03, 2008, 12:14:52 PM
Do you do any HIIT cardio in the offseason-whats diet like -off season
thx


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: bodybuildingfan2008 on August 05, 2008, 11:19:53 AM
Some Natural Legends!


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Mega Man on August 06, 2008, 02:21:38 AM
Cheers,AVBG.In all honesty,my legs are not usually as sharp as in the pic but upper body is pretty similar.

I have only had my bodyfat measured once about 4 weeks from a show and it came out as 18% :P I haven't bothered since ;D

You need to do the water body fat test...where they weigh you under water....it's like 99.999% acutrate.

I get mine done at the medical department of USF in tampa....i live in the area. they only charge like $50-75


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Quickerblade on August 06, 2008, 02:38:06 AM
You need to do the water body fat test...where they weigh you under water....it's like 99.999% acutrate.

I get mine done at the medical department of USF in tampa....i live in the area. they only charge like $50-75
In Australia it would be $300 +


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: AVBG on August 06, 2008, 02:45:18 AM
In Australia it would be $300 +

check out http://www.bodycomposition.com.au/ (thank me later) $90


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Quickerblade on August 06, 2008, 02:57:29 AM
check out http://www.bodycomposition.com.au/ (thank me later) $90
thats awesome


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: AVBG on August 06, 2008, 03:07:21 AM
thats awesome

It's only $60 when you don't want to have a post scan consultation- you get your results emailed to you and your out the door within 15mins.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Quickerblade on August 06, 2008, 03:20:13 AM
It's only $60 when you don't want to have a post scan consultation- you get your results emailed to you and your out the door within 15mins.
do you work there?


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: AVBG on August 06, 2008, 11:22:27 AM
do you work there?
No- I've had the scan though.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Quickerblade on August 06, 2008, 01:18:10 PM
No- I've had the scan though.
cheers for that AVBG, i will definately check it out.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: brudge on October 29, 2008, 12:23:20 PM
is it really worth it to pay that much when you can just look in the mirror or ask someone in the know to judge how you look? To me the number isn't as important as what stares you back in the mirror.  Same goes for weight on the scale. I just go by how I look and feel.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on May 05, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
I really can't understand the fascination with numbers/percentages. The numbers are inaccurate, if I were to get calipered today by two different people the margin of difference could be out as far as 4% (I've seen this first hand).

BTW Jonno. Mate you look unreal 365 days a year.

Just to talk about... Of course mirrow rules


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on May 05, 2009, 04:44:06 PM
I'm guessing around 5-6%, but I am not really sure.  Maintained this conditioning for about a 4-6 weeks. 

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/n25807961_35251117_7785.jpg)

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/n25807961_35251116_6789.jpg)

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/overheadabs-1-1.jpg)


My weight was between 175 - 180 lbs in the above pics.  I maintained that conditioning for about 1-2 months before a show.  Below is a pic "before" I cut down that year.  I weighed around 215 lbs in the pic below and im 5'9.  i was carrying a lot of bodyfat.


(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/Image014.jpg)

hoping to get big this year and do another diet to achieve the same conditioning as the pics above. 





I think lowest in these pics could be 10%


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on May 06, 2009, 02:55:15 PM
i have a christmas tree in my back in the first pic and im not even flexing or pulling my arms back... i think i was a good bit lower than 10%...

I don't think so, it seams to be quite fat inside (visceral, inside muscle, between muscle fascias...  I think u are natural, so under 10% u should be slender. Anyway, good work!


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: RamJam on May 07, 2009, 12:56:07 PM


those "electric hand things" are not very accurate...sorry for using such technological terms for those who dont know what simply huge is talking about.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on May 07, 2009, 03:57:22 PM
hmmm... im not saying i was competition shape, but i htink was under 10% pretty easily.  i had my bodyfat checked at the time, but I dont know how accurate those electronic hand things are...

hehe! I think u are around 9-10% ;) Hope to post some pics in few days with 5%


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on May 08, 2009, 04:49:33 AM
I got 6% just for 3 days a couple of times...  :-[ So hard to be there, i was 71kg with 1'75m. Also, how u diet? I tried many things always with no carbs, just salad and protein... I've seen that when I take few protein (60gr per day), I'm like dead, of course I go down fast but also pathetic fast recovery to soft fat

Now I see I was more than 6%. And the fast recovery was "water recovery". I'm going down now, 72kg again (and now with good hidratation), and I see I have to go to 62kg, THEN it will be really around 6%. How easy to think I'm so lean when the fat is inside and muscle is like full of everything (fat, water...), I can see abds and stuff like that, but it means nothing, I have lots of fat still. June the first I post pics.


Title: Re: Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)
Post by: Seijuro on May 09, 2009, 02:59:47 PM
get your lean body mass checked before you start the diet...

then do a calculation to get what weight you need to be at to hit 5% with that lean body mass.  this assumes you lose no muscle along the way, but is still a good way to set your goal weight.

Body needs around 1gr of protein per kg of lean body mass, little bit more maybe if there is training... So anyway I won't lose many grams of muscle, I think what happens is that when someone get really lean, he loses lots of "plasma", so water, glycogen, fat from inside... Also interesting to see that I can lift same maximum weight, and I feel much more coordination.