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Title: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Army of One on November 19, 2012, 02:03:43 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: MikMaq on November 19, 2012, 02:05:34 PM
Proven guilty, unless it's proven he's never stepped foot into a gym.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2012, 02:06:55 PM
Big Ach cannot lie....he nose would start growing.   ;)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: 240 is Back on November 19, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
looks to be 6 foot 8 there, tall dude.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 19, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
cant be trusted


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Papper on November 19, 2012, 02:37:08 PM
Natural easy to maintain look

He transformed his fat into muscle with nutritional timing, turnips and kale greens


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 19, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Big Ach, is the first pic taken in St Maarten?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: doriancutlerman on November 19, 2012, 02:45:15 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


5 lbs. lost per week and he retained that much muscle?  He looks pretty thick there and quite full in the arms.

The only way you could call that "natural" is if you consider legal or recently legal products, like M1T, fair game.   

Sorry, Ach, but I don't buy it.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 19, 2012, 02:46:17 PM
5 lbs. lost per week and he retained that much muscle?  He looks pretty thick there and quite full in the arms.

The only way you could call that "natural" is if you consider legal or recently legal products, like M1T, fair game.   

Sorry, Ach, but I don't buy it.

Methyl 1 test is legal again?  That shit was like dbol.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2012, 02:48:54 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


16 weeks?   No FNG way.   

Pure bullshit


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: JasonH on November 19, 2012, 02:55:22 PM
All lighting and angles.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 19, 2012, 02:57:57 PM
Fuck you army of no one.  Who are you to question the great Big Ach.  Anyways, he has claimed many times to have taken pro hormones.  But I don't see him as a liar.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
16 weeks to get rid of that midsection cleanly wo any muscle loss whatsoever? 

Dude would be on the cover of a new home workout CD or some shit and be makingh millions and millions if that were possible cleanly.   



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2012, 03:33:19 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


Big Achmed is a fine Arab.  He reminds me of Amr Diab, but with a larger nose and penis.

Achmed, can you post up pictures of your back side?

Shukron Gazilan..

"1"


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: the_swami on November 19, 2012, 03:36:11 PM
Big Ach is not lifetime natural

he has used steroids before or is using in that recent pic

Egypts version of bob bonham?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 19, 2012, 03:40:39 PM
His arms and delts got bigger as he got leaner?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
Big "Ach" is so "Big" that he can end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with just one swing of his cock..

"1"


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Alex23 on November 19, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
Big Achmed is a fine Arab.  He reminds me of Amr Diab, but with a larger nose and penis.

Achmed, can you post up pictures of your back sack?

Shukron Gazilan..

"1"

Fixed for prosperity.

BIG ACH looking extremely solid at the launch for "Sugar Fish":

(http://static6.imagecollect.com/preview/138/be8fe75c473e937)


Another after big of BIG ACH:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395964.0;attach=430670;image)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2012, 03:47:53 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


Who cares if he's natty or not, it's not like Big Ach matters.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: arce1988 on November 19, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
  Looks Female 


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Alex23 on November 19, 2012, 03:49:35 PM
Who cares if he's natty or not, it's not like Big Ach matters.

well he matters more than you chief because he exists. Nothing against you but you are just another faceless. BIG ACH is a monument @ getbig.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2012, 03:53:58 PM
well he matters more than you chief because he exists. Nothing against you but you are just another faceless. BIG ACH is a monument @ getbig.

We all exist my fat CQ-stalking friend.

Do you think a computer is writing these messages? Maybe you think it's a genie?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Alex23 on November 19, 2012, 04:12:09 PM
We all exist my fat CQ-stalking friend.

Do you think a computer is writing these messages? Maybe you think it's a genie?

Brutal trying to make a point using lies. No pic, you don't exist, as simple as that. Are you man enough to materialize?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2012, 04:14:18 PM
Brutal trying to make a point using the truth. No pic, you don't exist, as simple as that. Are you man enough to materialize?

So you really think i am a ghost? A spirit?

Why yes, maybe i am a legend from one of your favorite childhood-books.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:25:00 PM
Wow wow... wow...

First of all these pics are not 16 weeks apart -  They are taken much longer than that almost a year apart - was merely for example...

I was fatter when I actually started than I am in this Before picture, and believe it or not was lighter than I am in this After picture after 16 weeks ;-)


Here is one with dates if I can recall my weight correctly correctly (Again those pictures are not truly at my fattest - or even my leanest - in 2008 I competed at 167!!!)....

And to be clear - I used M1T twice, both times were in the same summer of Think it was2004 (- Thats it!  THATS ALL I HAVE USED AND THATS WHEN I USED IT!!!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: affeman on November 19, 2012, 04:26:19 PM
Wow wow... wow...

First of all these pics are not 16 weeks apart -  They are taken much longer than that almost a year apart - was merely for example...

I was fatter when I actually started than I am in this Before picture, and believe it or not was lighter than I am in this After picture after 16 weeks ;-)


Here is one with dates if I can recall my weight correctly correctly (Again those pictures are not truly at my fattest - or even my leanest - in 2008 I competed at 167!!!)....

LIAR


FILTH

FILT


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:27:31 PM
LIAR


FILTH

FILT

Ok chief!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Alex23 on November 19, 2012, 04:29:30 PM
Ok chief!

How have been man? still laying down some brutal smacks on the jealous havenots and always with a smile. 

Keep thriving chief.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:33:02 PM

Here is a pic of me at my heaviest 265 in 2005:

(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/260front.jpg)


And here is a pic of me at my lightest 167 in 2008!!!!!!  :o



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 19, 2012, 04:36:09 PM
It's get big bro. They are all professional super heroes in real life.

Personally I could give a rat's ass if someone is natural or not. Looking good akhi.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:37:04 PM
I fluctuate in weight a whole lot... but all I need is 16 weeks to get ready!  Just nailed down my formula!


Here is a pic of me now at 235:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-poF2JCPRGHE/T6n8Oz90oZI/AAAAAAAAAO0/lj8dHsh_mJI/s817/2012-05-09_01-09-44_532.jpg)


And here is me probably in my best shape in Spring 2004 at about 180 (Yes the photographer may or may not have been a schmoe!) lol:



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Natural Man on November 19, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
achmed why dont you go provide your palestinian friends with steroids to transform them into super soldiers, and die crushed by a 500 pounds laser guided bomb in the process?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:40:01 PM
achmed why dont you go provide your palestinian friends with steroids to transform them into super soldiers, and die crushed by a 500 pounds laser guided bomb in the process?

You'd be surprised what my opinion is about this whole situation!   ;)  I'll keep that to myself!  But I'll tell you that my bestest friends here in the US are jews and they were just staying at my place a few days ago!  The world would be a much better place if everyone would be like us!


Oh and P.S.   I wouldn't even know where to get streoids!  Not even M1T now!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: dr.chimps on November 19, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
And here is a pic of me at my lightest 167 in 2008!!!!!!  :o
Obviously, a proud member of Team Mantis.   ;D


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 19, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
lol you look HARDCORE masri... and I mean HARDCORE lol. The clueless whites on here have no idea what I mean :)

BS, lol, you can get HG otc in egypt ;) Actually pretty much all arab countries' pharmacies.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
lol you look HARDCORE masri... and the clueless whites on here have no idea what I mean :)

BS, lol, you can get HG otc in egypt ;)

Yes but I don't live in Egypt right now  ;)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Red Hook on November 19, 2012, 04:42:40 PM
Ach, why aren't you in the Gaza strip fighting with your brothers?  ::)

instead you are focused on your post work out shake and buying posing thongs  :-\


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 19, 2012, 04:43:01 PM
Ach, why aren't you in the Gaza strip fighting with your brothers?  ::)

instead you are focused on your post work out shake and buying posing thongs  :-\

Racist much? Why don't you go die for Israel? See how that sounds.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2012, 04:43:19 PM
Yes but I don't live in Egypt right now  ;)

Sadiqui,

How big is your King Tut?

"1"


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
Obviously, a proud member of Team Mantis.   ;D

 :D

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/Ep_109_starvinmarvin.gif/250px-Ep_109_starvinmarvin.gif)

Ach, why aren't you in the Gaza strip fighting with your brothers?  ::)

instead you are focused on your post work out shake and buying posing thongs  :-\

Those are not my brothers!

Sadiqui,

How big is your King Tut?

"1"

Not big enough for the Sarcophagus they want to  bury me in  ;)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Hulkotron on November 19, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
I would say the "after" is in the high upper range of what can be achieved naturally bad that's a shitload of nothing-but-fat to lose in under four months.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Red Hook on November 19, 2012, 04:45:24 PM
Sadiqui,

How big is your King Tut?

"1"

lol...racist post...reported


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:49:33 PM

Guys I'm heading to the gym now to train legs... here is a picture I just took right now to keep all you homos moist!! 

With that being said!!  HOW YOU LIKE MY REDSKINS ROCKING THE FUCKING EAGLES YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AaKxM1Kq9Ug/UKrFDbLpKXI/AAAAAAAABf0/7pwiwnyk18M/s817/IMG_20121119_184701_294.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: G_Thang on November 19, 2012, 04:51:04 PM
Guys I'm heading to the gym now to train legs... here is a picture I just took right now to keep all you homos moist!! 

With that being said!!  HOW YOU LIKE MY REDSKINS ROCKING THE FUCKING EAGLES YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AaKxM1Kq9Ug/UKrFDbLpKXI/AAAAAAAABf0/7pwiwnyk18M/s817/IMG_20121119_184701_294.jpg)

How was that whole large pizza you ate yesterday?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
Guys I'm heading to the gym now to train legs... here is a picture I just took right now to keep all you homos moist!!

Tis-bahala-heyr Habibi!

Masalama!

"1"


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 04:52:33 PM
How was that whole large pizza you ate yesterday?

Fucking great!  And I downed some Chinese today for lunch to celebrate passing a huge exam this morning!  Back to the diet now... oh wait... shit.... Thanksgiving!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2012, 04:53:19 PM
Fucking great!  And I downed some Chinese today for lunch to celebrate passing a huge exam this morning!  Back to the diet now... oh wait... shit.... Thanksgiving!

Aren't you finished with your pHD yet?

"1"


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AaKxM1Kq9Ug/UKrFDbLpKXI/AAAAAAAABf0/7pwiwnyk18M/s817/IMG_20121119_184701_294.jpg)

The Arabian Lionel Richie! :D



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: mantronik on November 19, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
Big Ach, is the first pic taken in St Maarten?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 19, 2012, 05:00:33 PM
Big Ach, is the first pic taken in St Maarten?

No, Close - Peter Island Resort (British Virgin Islands) where I spent part of my honeymoon
http://peterislandresort.com/index.php

The other part of my honeymoon was spent in the South of France!


Ok guys I'm off to the gym

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6QkZJrsoLdE/UKrHcxoMBmI/AAAAAAAABgM/DbrRTmgF7Ow/s822/IMG_20121119_185728_815.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Army of One on November 19, 2012, 05:01:47 PM
Fuck you army of no one.  Who are you to question the great Big Ach.  Anyways, he has claimed many times to have taken pro hormones.  But I don't see him as a liar.

haha, don't get angry and tense up too much or your boyfriend will use lube and ruin your enjoyment


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: WOOO on November 19, 2012, 05:03:24 PM
could be natural... not seeing specific evidence of PEDs


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 19, 2012, 10:09:02 PM
Why is anyone using supplements in the year 2012? Don't any of you have computers? It's all bunk.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: CARTEL on November 19, 2012, 10:13:30 PM


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6QkZJrsoLdE/UKrHcxoMBmI/AAAAAAAABgM/DbrRTmgF7Ow/s822/IMG_20121119_185728_815.jpg)

You look like Bowzer from Shanana.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: haider on November 19, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
no WAY that nose is peaceful


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Nomad on November 19, 2012, 10:29:46 PM
Why is anyone using supplements in the year 2012? Don't any of you have computers? It's all bunk.

Harnessing the power and might of the placebo effect.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
You look like Bowzer from Shanana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac97Acq8GFI


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 20, 2012, 05:40:34 AM
Good guy who lies his ass off about his status. Loads of drugs to look like shite and claim natty  ::)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: snx on November 20, 2012, 06:49:06 AM
I'll wait to come to a full conclusion once CNN posts the results of his recent drug test. But Big Ach is the muscle, for sure.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 20, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
Is this the guy who curls 100 pound dumbbells like its nothing?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 10:28:18 AM
180 BEST LOOK ...SHOULD BE THERE OR  190 AND STAY PUT LEAN ENOUGH AND BIG ENOUGH....UNLESS DRUGGED,FULL,WITH HARD BUT SMOOTH CONDITION 230 AND OVER FORGET IT,,,,


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
16weeks to lose the fat yes, but natural i doubt it severly

not that he loks juiced, i simply doubt it

70 lbs in 16 weeks naturally is not possible??


What are you talking about chief?

We're talking 4.375 lbs per week!  Thats very possible!  Plus factor in the water weight!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 20, 2012, 01:03:58 PM
70 lbs in 16 weeks naturally is not possible??


What are you talking about chief?

We're talking 4.375 lbs per week!  Thats very possible!  Plus factor in the water weight!



No way dude.   Unless someone is running a marathon or two a week and not eating - not possible while retaining that much muscle. 


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 01:07:06 PM


No way dude.   Unless someone is running a marathon or two a week and not eating - not possible while retaining that much muscle. 

Dude, I was doing cardio twice a day, 1 hour in the am, 30 HIT in the pm, 2 hours on sundays in the am.... plus for a while was only eating 800 calories!

And believe me - I lost tons of muscle!


I'm not saying its, ideal or even smart!  Just saying it is do-able naturally!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 20, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Dude, I was doing cardio twice a day, 1 hour in the am, 30 HIT in the pm, 2 hours on sundays in the am.... plus for a while was only eating 800 calories!

And believe me - I lost tons of muscle!


I'm not saying its, ideal or even smart!  Just saying it is do-able naturally!

Yeah - but the pic posted you are not at all depleted or anything. 

I have been around the scene for years and never saw anyone lose 70 bs in 16 weeks legit or even close and look good at the end of it. 


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
Here are the dates, and here are the weights

Oh and to be clear... I got dead last at that show! lol  - But I did win best poser!

Done naturally:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448665.0;attach=492685;image)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 20, 2012, 01:26:51 PM
Here are the dates, and here are the weights

Oh and to be clear... I got dead last at that show! lol  - But I did win best poser!

Done naturally:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448665.0;attach=492685;image)

A little fight w the Pro-tan not go too well?   ;D  ;D  ;D


Been there done that - and Dream Tan made me look even worse. 


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Billy Guns on November 20, 2012, 01:33:37 PM
Reminds me of Big Ach


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Nails on November 20, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mse402kTr14


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Nails on November 20, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
TRAINING: BIG ACH STYLE
Through much time, and lots of trial and error, I have pretty much learned that weight training is a very individual things. But there is one factor that separates the scrawny little boys from the men with 18-20 inch arms, thats INTENSITY!!! I don't care if you lift heavy or if you lift light, if your work outs are not INTENSE, if you are not training to failure and beyond failure, and if people are not staring at you in shock thinking you are just about to going to kill yourself then you are always going to be stuck at the same weight, with your small arms, and your little chicken legs with that stupid look on your face wondering why you are not growing!
I personally began weight training as a football player, we utilized very heavy compound movements, and practiced very explosive techniques on all of our major lifts, obviously like the bench press, the squats and the deadlifts. Until today I still very strongly believe in those three lifts as being the center and the core of your work outs.
Of course as my goals changed so did certain things in my work outs, I still do those three major lifts. But I've also shifted a lot of my training onto isolation exercises targeting desired muscle groups. I've also upped the volume in my taining like there is no tomorrow. The majority of my work outs last anywhere from 2 hours - 3 hours, and its not uncommon for me to do 25 - 35 sets per bodypart. I train both heavy (2-3 reps) and light (20-30 reps) for every muscle, everyday, I don't have any designated heavy days or light days, they are both just combined together in one brutal day. But no matter whether I am training heavy or light one thing that always stays the same is that I will always train to failure and even beyond failure by utilizing techniques such as partial reps, half reps, cheating methods, stop-&-go, etc. Why do you have to train to failure? Because if you want your muscles to grow then you have to force them to do so by overloading them. Your body is a very intelligent organism that is always learning and adapting itself, it does not want anything to change, so you are practically forcing it do so, you can't have your body dealing with the same stresses everyday as it will just get used to them. By going to failure and beyond failure on every set you are pushing your body to the absolute limit! THIS IS HOW YOU WILL GROW!!! There are days that while I'm training I won't even count reps, I'll just push and push and push and even when I think I'm done I'll push and push some more, and when I think i'm done then, I'll half push a few times, all the way until the fucking bar is just not moving, then I know its time to rack this shit before I kill myself!!
Find what works for you, maybe heavy training is not meant for your, although I'm a very firm believer in very heavy training, especially on those compound movement, thats what gives you that scary thickness that still shows you work out even when you are wearing clothes. As the old saying goes, "Go Heavy or go home!!!" this is how I was taught to train and this is how I will always train, but like I said I've added a few perks into my training to really fatigue the muscle. Find your perks and put them into effect.
Remember to listen to your body and don't be foolish, any injury that I've ever sustained, and I've gotten quite a few, were as a result of being foolish. When first starting a training program after you have been away from the weight for sometime, do not rush into things, go slow and take it easy, you may very well find yourself quite strong and you know inside you can go a lot heavier, my suggestion is don't for at least two weeks so your joints and your tendons can get used to the feel of things again, then you can go on an all out assault on the weights. Going too fast and being foolish can really cause some annoying and painful injuries! Don't be greedy, the weights will always be there, and when your joints and tendons are upto par with the rest of your muscles then these heavy ass weights will welcome you with open arms.
In many things you hear the term "Work smarter, not harder!" but in bodybuilding you need to do both, you need to "Work Smarter AND work harder" but a lot of people neglect the smarter part....I dunno, maybe that just reflects on their IQ. Either way, always keep that in your mind.
Bodybuilding is one of these sports thats there with you for a very long time, its also a sport that requires patience, and also requires a combination of many things, intense training, proper nutrition, adequete rest, perfect supplementation, etc. One of these items alone is not sufficient to achieve optimal results, you have to balance them all out and make this a lifestyle.
Consistency in the weight room is also key, I'm so fucking sick of the guys that will come in blast arms and chest for a few weeks, then disappear for like 4 months, then they have that stupid look on their face asking for advice....you know the one!!!! These people will never make any gains because their training (and other things in their life) are nost not consistent. To be a bodybuilder, to look like a bodybuilder YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE GYM EVERYDAY THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE GYM, NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!

As for the best training split, the possibilities are really endless, again this is a very individual thing. I've changed my training routine a million times through out my bodybuilding career, right now this is the training split which I am using:


Saturday: Delts, Traps, and abs
Sunday: Quads, Hamstrings and calves
Monday: Chest and Abs
Tuesday: Back and Calves
Wednesday: Biceps, Triceps, and abs
Thursday: Off
Friday: Off


TRAIN HARD AND BUST SOME ASS!!!!!!!




(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/dbcurlshalf.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Nails on November 20, 2012, 01:53:46 PM
NUTRITION: BIG ACH STYLE
For those that have known me for quite sometime now, I am sure you opened this section hoping to see a list of the top fast food places worldwide, from Shawerma Sandwiches in Cairo to Double XL Papa Johns Pizza in Orlando. Sorry to disappoint you little jack-asses, but the McDonalds and TWIX diet just has not been working for me LOL. Donít get me wrong I still love junk food, and every now and then I still go out and enjoy myself. But through a couple of different trials, I have learned that my body responds so much better when I am eating cleaner and more quality calories (oh the ironyÖLOL). Sure a calorie is a calorie, and the basics is that you will lose weight as long as you eat less calories than your body uses, and you will gain weight when you eat more calories than what your body uses. But think about it this way, your body is like a luxury car, you want to put only the most premium fuel into it to keep it running at its best. This is the only way to insure that your health will be at the highest level, and if that doesnít matter to you, if youíre a competitor, it will make getting ready for a contest MUCH easier. Think about this, in the past, I had to diet down from 250 lbs all the way to 180 lbs, I had to lose 70 lbs!!!!
My new philosophy is to try to keep my off-season bodyfat in check and making sure I don't get too far from my contest weight. I am not so concerned with staying super lean, as I am with eating enough GOOD calories to gain muscle. Sure I will gain some extra weight, but I will not be a fat-ass, by watching my bodyfat in the off-season I won't have to lose too much weight getting ready for a show, this allows me to hold on to most of my muscle while I'm in a calorie restriction to shed bodyfat! I think that sounds a lot better than having to lose 70 lbs! Sure, I still think that bulking does have its benefits, especially for younger beginners, but making it a goal to be fatter than fat, will just make things really bad for you. Getting UBER-FAT will harm you and you will decrease your insulin sensitivity, you will build up fat cells that you will not be able to lose, and you will have to buy an entire new wardrobe to cover your fat gut!!


Not following a proper nutritional program is the #1 problem that your average gym rat is dealing with (and they don't even know it), there are some guys that come into the gym, sporting their 13 inch arms, and little ass chicken legs, they train like the banshee is riding up their asses, and they don't make any gains what-so-ever, AND THEN they come to you with that stupid ass look (I also talk about this look in my training section), asking why are they not progressing at all. And the answer is NUTRITION NUTRITION NUTRITION. A person will not make any gains if he or she is eating like a little humming bird, especially if they are eating worthless shit that serves absolutely no benefit to the body. THIS IS BODYBUILDING...
Weight training SURE its VERY important, but it will not give you the results desired alone. You need to get the diet in check.
So where do we start? Well, I believe the best way to figure out how much you need to be eating to build muscle is to multiply the number 17 - 20 by your bodyweight in pounds, the result of that is the number of calories you consume daily. Adjust accordingly depending on your goals (ie lose bodyfat, gain mass, etc.)
As for the macros, I like to do the following split, 40% protein, 40% Carbs, and 20% fat. By the way Arnold Schwarzenegger used the same split, any questions? I didn't think so! I eat every 2 hours or so and I divide these calories into about 8 meals. Usually my biggest meals are my very first meal and my Post work out meal. I am a firm believer that the first meal of your day and your post work out meal are the MOST IMPORTANT meals that you can eat, I cannot for the life of me understand people that leave for work or school without eating breakfast, I cannot leave my house without having my first meal, even if I am running late and have to eat it in the car as I drive, I will not miss my first meal of the day. Post work out meal is equally as important, you have 1-2 hours right after your work out where your body is running at 100% and will thoroughly utilize the nutrition that you give it. Recently I've been having Whey Protein, Creatine and simple Carbohydrates such as dextrose. Everyone is different when it comes to bodybuilding, all I can say is do what works for you and what makes you feel comfortable.
While I am having my post work out shakes in the locker room or right outside the gym, people (again) have that stupid look on their face totally neglecting the most important meal of the day, and then wondering why I am that much bigger than them!!


Anyways, as for actual food choices, this is what I usually like to stick to (there are many other things that work, but this is what I like):


Protein:
Chicken
Lean Beef
Tuna
Salmon
Turkey
Lamb (Usually on a cheat day, because its very high in fat and definitely not during pre-contest)
Eggs


Starchy Carbohydrates:
White rice (Brown and Basamati are good too but I like white)
Oats (Non Flavored kind).
Bran Flakes Cereal (I donít like dairy products so I eat it dry)
Whole Wheat Pasta
Whole wheat or Rye Bread
Corn
Green Peas
Sweet or baked potato


Fats:
Flax Seed Oil
Fish Oil
Olive Oil
Sunflower Oil
Nuts (Almonds are the best)


Vegetables:
Lettuce
Broccoli (mmmmmmmm, I love Broccoli)
Green Beans
Cabbage
Carrots
Asparagus
Tomatoes (every now and then)


Iím not a big fan of fruit as I donít really think they provide much benefit "bodybuilding-wise", so I donít eat them on a regular basis. Fruit are excellent sources of vitamins and nutrients, but from a "bodybuilders" point of view they cannot be used for muscle gylcogen and are easily converted to fat if eaten in excess (as anything else really). If I was to have some fruit, usually I'll have some bananas, mangos, apples, or grapes, but that is once every blue moon. I'd much rather save my calories eating starchy complex carbs which can be stored as muscle glycogen instead of fruits in which their fructose gets shuttled straight to the liver.


Pre-contest, I stick to the same plan, with my calories at about maintenance level and then slowly decrease the calories every week (usually by decreasing the carbs), I start with the last meal that has carbs, and eliminate it, every few weeks Iíll eliminate another carb portion from the next meal, and so on and so forth, until I reach my desired contest weight, IE coming in really shredded and looking like a fucking corpse!
Proper Supplementation is also extremely important, but not more important obviously than a proper eating plan.
I mainly like stick to the basics, the tried and true supplements that have taken many bodybuilders before me straight to the top.

This includes:
Fish Oil and Sunflower Oil
Wicked Whey Protein from Phenom Labs
BCAA's
Creatine Monohydrate
Dextrose (post work out)
Multivitamins
Glucosamine (to care for the joints).
Herculean Xtreme from Phenom Labs (Thats an awesome pre-work out supplement, packed with Creatine and Arginine which gives an AMAZING pump during my work outs. Arginine has also been proven to increase Growth Hormone levels, and that can't be a bad thing!)
Phenylean Xtreme from Phenom Labs (Awesome Fat Burner!)


What about cheat meals?ÖÖ What about them? Ha! We will need about 10 other pages for me to list what I like to cheat on. But, I guess the most important thing is to keep it in moderation, whatever you do, whatever you like to munch on, moderation is key, I know its hard to say ďno moreĒ even I have a very hard time doing that when I cheat, but that is the most important factor when you cheat.


At the end of the day, nutrition-wise, do what works for you and what brings you results, everyone is different, you donít have to be psycho about your nutrition, just know that there are good choices and bad choices when it comes to food, and your body will run best if you keep 90% of your intake good clean food! This should be a lifestyle, DIETS DONíT WORK!!! Lifestyle changes do! And I can honestly say a Sound Nutrition plan is the single most important factor when it comes to bodybuilding and weight training!!!


Best of luck and feel free to E-mail me if I you have any more questions about nutrition.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: anabolichalo on November 20, 2012, 01:57:07 PM
severe eating disorders on this bloke


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: airosol on November 20, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
quit fucking around ach. get over to gaza and tell them assholes to stop killing each other!  >:(


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 20, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
Big Ach: you're cool even if you are talking shit !!    ;D 8) 8)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 03:05:48 PM

When did I start talking shit???  ;D


I all happy go lucky homies!  8)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: doriancutlerman on November 20, 2012, 03:06:03 PM
Methyl 1 test is legal again?  That shit was like dbol.

So I've heard.

That's why I said "recently legal" which, I admit, is still a bit of a stretch.  It was outlawed a good while back.  (Keep in mind, I'm still mentally stuck in 2009.  Why?  Eh, none of y'all want to hear that ;) :(  .)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: arce1988 on November 20, 2012, 03:07:31 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/6480_139028614107_4559164_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 03:16:32 PM
So I've heard.

That's why I said "recently legal" which, I admit, is still a bit of a stretch.  It was outlawed a good while back.  (Keep in mind, I'm still mentally stuck in 2009.  Why?  Eh, none of y'all want to hear that ;) :(  .)

I think 2005 is when it became illegal


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: doriancutlerman on November 20, 2012, 03:18:37 PM
When did I start talking shit???  ;D


I all happy go lucky homies!  8)

That's true :)  You are unshakable as best I can tell.

Let me run this by you, dude:  you clearly have the genetics for this game.  Why not join the Dark Side and see just how far you can take yourself in, say, a year's time?  Provided you avoid truly ABUSING orals, some anavar, a little Dbol here and there, then a year of test E interspersed with tren and, if you can swing it, gH would NOT have a significant impact on your longevity.  You have killer arms and pecs already.  Why not take it to the next level?



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
That's true :)  You are unshakable as best I can tell.

Let me run this by you, dude:  you clearly have the genetics for this game.  Why not join the Dark Side and see just how far you can take yourself in, say, a year's time?  Provided you avoid truly ABUSING orals, some anavar, a little Dbol here and there, then a year of test E interspersed with tren and, if you can swing it, gH would NOT have a significant impact on your longevity.  You have killer arms and pecs already.  Why not take it to the next level?



Assuming I was to join the dark side....  I imagine that I probably would be more comfortable with orals than I would be with injectables... because the thought of injecting myself weirds me out some.  And I mean we all know in the past the pro-hormones I took were probably toxic towards my liver and what have you... but I could live with that and hold myself from not abusing them!

But why you ask....  Well for starters - the law.  This is probably the biggest thing, I have made the US my home, this is where I live now and where I plan to live in the future... and last I checked it was illegal here, so I don't want to have to deal with that.  I'm pretty weird about that, and have a thing with sticking by the law.

But even when I was living back in Egypt (where it is legal and  can be purchased OTC)... there is also the thought of just really trying to push myself to do this without enhancements.  Its not that I'm judging anyone that uses... I could care less...  your body your choices, a bunch of my friends juice, thats their prerogative.  I just decided its not for me... no real reason, its not a moral thing... just something I decided to do without.  I have seen what I've been able to accomplish a lot naturally... fluctuate and drop 70 lbs for show, get shredded and win contests, get good strength and look impressive in a gym, deadlifted 500 lbs, squatted 465, benched 350 - these numbers are childs play for a lot of the other really big guys on here but for me this was a huge accomplishment!....... and I feel like I have gone this far without them, and I truly think I can go further.

With that being said.... I'm really not closed to the idea that if one day in my 40s or 50s a doctor tells me I could benefit from legally prescribed HGH - I could maybe go for it...  But again, the thought of injecting myself really really weirds me out, so I dunno!  Will keep you posted then and won't lie about it either!  Just like I haven't lied about my use of M1T back in 2004!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 20, 2012, 03:43:04 PM

Whats on the menu right now before I hit the gym tonight for some Chest action!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QUFjskF8ido/UKwHLGqAFWI/AAAAAAAABg4/CG3M5KkGM4g/s1127/IMG_20121120_174017_776.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Army of One on November 20, 2012, 04:17:39 PM
Take your lies somewhere else, really makes me question how much of your nice guy persona is real too.

Assuming I was to join the dark side....  I imagine that I probably would be more comfortable with orals than I would be with injectables... because the thought of injecting myself weirds me out some.  And I mean we all know in the past the pro-hormones I took were probably toxic towards my liver and what have you... but I could live with that and hold myself from not abusing them!

But why you ask....  Well for starters - the law.  This is probably the biggest thing, I have made the US my home, this is where I live now and where I plan to live in the future... and last I checked it was illegal here, so I don't want to have to deal with that.  I'm pretty weird about that, and have a thing with sticking by the law.

But even when I was living back in Egypt (where it is legal and  can be purchased OTC)... there is also the thought of just really trying to push myself to do this without enhancements.  Its not that I'm judging anyone that uses... I could care less...  your body your choices, a bunch of my friends juice, thats their prerogative.  I just decided its not for me... no real reason, its not a moral thing... just something I decided to do without.  I have seen what I've been able to accomplish a lot naturally... fluctuate and drop 70 lbs for show, get shredded and win contests, get good strength and look impressive in a gym, deadlifted 500 lbs, squatted 465, benched 350 - these numbers are childs play for a lot of the other really big guys on here but for me this was a huge accomplishment!....... and I feel like I have gone this far without them, and I truly think I can go further.

With that being said.... I'm really not closed to the idea that if one day in my 40s or 50s a doctor tells me I could benefit from legally prescribed HGH - I could maybe go for it...  But again, the thought of injecting myself really really weirds me out, so I dunno!  Will keep you posted then and won't lie about it either!  Just like I haven't lied about my use of M1T back in 2004!



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: TrueGrit on November 20, 2012, 04:21:20 PM
Whats on the menu right now before I hit the gym tonight for some Chest action!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QUFjskF8ido/UKwHLGqAFWI/AAAAAAAABg4/CG3M5KkGM4g/s1127/IMG_20121120_174017_776.jpg)

Looks a bit dry..


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 20, 2012, 04:21:48 PM
Wow you eat little...


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2012, 09:36:02 PM
Methyl 1 test is legal again?  That shit was like dbol.

No it is not legal and it was far stronger thn dbol! That shit is like oral trenbolone! super strong yet toxic!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 20, 2012, 10:15:50 PM
Big Achmed truly is Big!

An all around Big Dude (nose is big too!) :D


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: tommywishbone on November 20, 2012, 10:20:46 PM
Whats on the menu right now before I hit the gym tonight for some Chest action!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QUFjskF8ido/UKwHLGqAFWI/AAAAAAAABg4/CG3M5KkGM4g/s1127/IMG_20121120_174017_776.jpg)

I too enjoy Fresca.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: haider on November 20, 2012, 10:34:52 PM
truly beats me why big ach lets him self go in the offseason.

fat ach = tier 5, in shape ach = tier 3 (atleast, the beefy pecs do it for him)

bay approved


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 21, 2012, 10:01:51 AM
truly beats me why big ach lets him self go in the offseason.

fat ach = tier 5, in shape ach = tier 3 (atleast, the beefy pecs do it for him)

bay approved

Because Big Ach prefers being big fat and strong rather than lean and puny!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: njflex on November 21, 2012, 10:03:34 AM
Because Big Ach prefers being big fat and strong rather than lean and puny!
lol,,,u be great for supplement ads....


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: doriancutlerman on November 21, 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Because Big Ach prefers being big fat and strong rather than lean and puny!

Can't blame you there, but then, if you give yourself to the Dark Side of the Force, you can be lean AND diesel :)

I myself don't have the lean part down-pat just yet, but I'm getting there.  I do no cardio, smoke cigars, drink bourbon and eat pretty much what I like, only with smaller portions and fewer meals these days.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 21, 2012, 03:08:03 PM
Big Ach for president.... :D :D :D :D :D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: CREALMADRID on November 21, 2012, 03:29:31 PM
Because Big Ach prefers being big fat and strong rather than lean and puny!
how did you get your green card for the usa?
when you drop to a contest weight @180 pounds,what is your bench,deadlift,squat-i ask cause you posted your records but i think that records are set when you are above 220 pounds)
if one day for example you decide "i want to be @180 pounds shreded all year round" how would you maintain that,we all know this is possible but do you ever planned to maintain that look all year round?it would be not easy cause you did 2 hours of cardio and eating very few calories in your diet-ok when in shape you can add calories but you have always to burn them of!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: the_swami on November 21, 2012, 03:33:40 PM
the fact you used methyl test means you are not lifetime natural

methyl test/pro hormone/whatever you want to call it is an anabolic steroid

so stop with the FILT LIES


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 21, 2012, 03:42:48 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/6480_139028614107_4559164_n.jpg)

who is the gentleman in the picture hiding from?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 21, 2012, 03:45:31 PM
how did you get your green card for the usa?
when you drop to a contest weight @180 pounds,what is your bench,deadlift,squat-i ask cause you posted your records but i think that records are set when you are above 220 pounds)
if one day for example you decide "i want to be @180 pounds shreded all year round" how would you maintain that,we all know this is possible but do you ever planned to maintain that look all year round?it would be not easy cause you did 2 hours of cardio and eating very few calories in your diet-ok when in shape you can add calories but you have always to burn them of!

his dad "invested" $2 million in the US on behalf of Achmedinejad --> green card


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: TrueGrit on November 21, 2012, 03:48:41 PM
who is the gentleman in the picture hiding from?

Fabio.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: diamondcut on November 21, 2012, 03:54:43 PM
Here are the dates, and here are the weights

Oh and to be clear... I got dead last at that show! lol  - But I did win best poser!

Done naturally:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448665.0;attach=492685;image)


you look like you could lose another 12-15 pounds to get into truly shredded condition

sadly for you it would put you in twink-status in terms of weight for your height

i am amazed you don't have any stretch marks

your skin looks extremely elastic


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: che on November 21, 2012, 04:04:38 PM
who is the gentleman in the picture hiding from?


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x-4G25FHjas/T4dtSWeGV5I/AAAAAAAADgk/MDQmFkijVwM/s1600/Sexy+Girl+Denise+Milani+at+Big+Rocks+HQ+Photo+Shoot.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 21, 2012, 06:21:30 PM
how did you get your green card for the usa?
when you drop to a contest weight @180 pounds,what is your bench,deadlift,squat-i ask cause you posted your records but i think that records are set when you are above 220 pounds)
if one day for example you decide "i want to be @180 pounds shreded all year round" how would you maintain that,we all know this is possible but do you ever planned to maintain that look all year round?it would be not easy cause you did 2 hours of cardio and eating very few calories in your diet-ok when in shape you can add calories but you have always to burn them of!

I got my green card through marriage, I've been with my wife  since high school, dated for like 10 years, married for almost 7 years.  

Yes my weights in the gym drop drastically when I diet down, I feel like a total bitch.  Because I can't lift heavy.  Any personal records that I have listed have always been in the off season.

the fact you used methyl test means you are not lifetime natural

methyl test/pro hormone/whatever you want to call it is an anabolic steroid

so stop with the FILT LIES

When did I say lifetime natural?  I'm not lying and I've never hid the fact that I've used M1T from anyone.  I know exactly what m1t is and at the time I used it, it was listed as a pro hormone.  I know its strong and I know it works.  But I used it for two cycles in 2004.  And haven't since then.   So are you telling me its still in my system today?  What have I been lying about?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: TrueGrit on November 21, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
Ach's stated position has always been very clear and never deviated: He has done PHs and taken everything that is legal. The legality issue is more important to him than any morality issue. He has always stayed legal and always wanted to. He has never claimed lifetime natty and he himself brings up the PHs.

Now, you might think he's lying (possibly for work/future work and not wanting to admit to any unlawful act) but he has always been consistent and the dude has never tried to claim lifetime natural.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2012, 06:30:29 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


Well, if he did it naturally, I want his diet plan.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 21, 2012, 06:33:59 PM
Ach's stated position has always been very clear and never deviated: He has done PHs and taken everything that is legal. The legality issue is more important to him than any morality issue. He has always stayed legal and always wanted to. He has never claimed lifetime natty and he himself brings up the PHs.

Now, you might think he's lying (possibly for work/future work and not wanting to admit to any unlawful act) but he has always been consistent and the dude has never tried to claim lifetime natural.

Thanks for the post bro.

I understand why people may not admit steroid use because as you say for future, work, etc.  But the fact of the matter is that's not me, the fact is I have not used anything else.

I've used m1t and pro hormones and if there were any good phs in the market right now, I would be using them, but everything available now sucks hairy balls

Well, if he did it naturally, I want his diet plan.

Pm me your questions, I'm happy to help!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: polychronopolous on November 21, 2012, 06:34:35 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


ACH looks so much happier in the first pic.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 21, 2012, 06:47:20 PM
ACH looks so much happier in the first pic.

Well, we are usually much happerier when we can eat whatever we want.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: GoneAway on November 21, 2012, 07:08:45 PM
What do you say Getbig?This is after 16 weeks dieting off 80 pounds too

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)


Yeah, I can see him natural there. Not super huge but with a good amount of muscle after years in the gym. Not impossible.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on November 22, 2012, 01:54:32 AM
big ach cant lie.. he is muslim..

it's all his GAG 8)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Army of One on November 22, 2012, 02:06:54 AM
Ach's stated position has always been very clear and never deviated: He has done PHs and taken everything that is legal.

Yes, and most of his life was spent in Egypt where Steroids are legal, he's admitted all his friends used them, you can walk in to a regular pharmacy and buy them over the counter....


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 02:54:53 AM
Big Ach rocks!


(http://oi48.tinypic.com/2nunlsy.jpg)(http://oi45.tinypic.com/24zk4f5.jpg)(http://oi48.tinypic.com/2nunlsy.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 08:35:18 AM
Yes, and most of his life was spent in Egypt where Steroids are legal, he's admitted all his friends used them, you can walk in to a regular pharmacy and buy them over the counter....

Actually most of my adult years (15 years) have been spent in the US, chief!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2012, 08:37:38 AM
Big Ach rocks!


(http://oi48.tinypic.com/2nunlsy.jpg)(http://oi45.tinypic.com/24zk4f5.jpg)(http://oi48.tinypic.com/2nunlsy.jpg)

lol,,,,


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448267.0;attach=492648;image)

Beached Blubber of Peace.  ::)

More like 1 large pizza per day instead of per week. 


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 22, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
For all paranoid Americans who think that all Muslims and Arabs are terrorists....look at our Big Ach and get a grip !!
He could be part of The Waltons or the Brady Bunch !


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 22, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
Yes, and most of his life was spent in Egypt where Steroids are legal, he's admitted all his friends used them, you can walk in to a regular pharmacy and buy them over the counter....


I knew a guy who would buy Anadrol tabs and put them in a prohormone bottle and convince himself he was natural. Dude was a funny bastard. Sold used cars.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 22, 2012, 03:07:10 PM
For all paranoid Americans who think that all Muslims and Arabs are terrorists....look at our Big Ach and get a grip !!
He could be part of The Waltons or the Brady Bunch !

Mr. Brady was in a sleeper cell for the depopulation homosexual movement.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: the_swami on November 22, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
ok
so youre drug free for some years adn retained alot of the look you gained using methyl test

this is the problem with "natural" BB's
ignorants see your pics and say i can attain this physique without using steroids ever
and then they waste all their time, $ etc on useless supplements

you are lying when you deny steroid use, methyl test is an anabolic steroid

@ the time you used it was labelled a legal pro hormome in the USA
but @ the end of the day its still an anabolic steroid


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 06:34:42 PM
ok
so youre drug free for some years adn retained alot of the look you gained using methyl test

this is the problem with "natural" BB's
ignorants see your pics and say i can attain this physique without using steroids ever
and then they waste all their time, $ etc on useless supplements

you are lying when you deny steroid use, methyl test is an anabolic steroid

@ the time you used it was labelled a legal pro hormome in the USA
but @ the end of the day its still an anabolic steroid

My best showing ever was before I even knew what m1T is bro... wtf are you talking about...

This was before m1t  so sorry bro, I didn't just "retain" my m1t gains!

(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
For all paranoid Americans who think that all Muslims and Arabs are terrorists....look at our Big Ach and get a grip !!
He could be part of The Waltons or the Brady Bunch !

Big Ach is splendiferous.

We don't regard him as a muslim, Big Ach is A-Ok in our book!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 22, 2012, 06:39:41 PM
lol u taking a dump bro  :-[

I call bs on being natty too now after seeing more pix :-/ Good size in various pix, except the ones were you were super skinny but... not natty.. I dunno it's tough to tell now a days... when we look back at 'naturals' of the past... they don't come close... and today's naturals are not natural at all.... either taking variety of supplements or have taken gear but are off then claim natural.

Technically me being on trt would make me natural  :P


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 06:43:23 PM
lol u taking a dump bro  :-[

I call bs on being natty too now after seeing more pix :-/ Good size in various pix, except the ones were you were super skinny but... not natty.. I dunno it's tough to tell now a days... when we look back at 'naturals' of the past... they don't come close... and today's naturals are not natural at all.... either taking variety of supplements or have taken gear but are off then claim natural.

Technically me being on trt would make me natural  :P

Call BS all you want lol I'm not gonna lose sleep over it!  Believe what you want!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 22, 2012, 06:45:49 PM
Ah so you did use M1T... well methyl-1-test... is a steroid... and a hardcore one... from all the years of reading about PHs ('legal steroids' -- hah they are steroids) M1T was one of THE most powerful, 10mg will blow you the hell up... and from the posts of most even MORE powerful than superdrol.... for which on average people will run 30mg...

I'm not surprised then you got gains from it... The only thing maybe worse and more powerful would be methyl trenbolone or which you only need like 0.5mg to 1mg ED

And for any kids reading this naively thinking OH WOW more powerful... read more, it wasn't meant even for medical drug use, it was to test androgenicity of other steroids as it was SO powerful... instant liver failure to close to instant liver failure not unheard of. Fastest way to destroy liver. So yeah just putting warning up there for what I mentioned so someone dumb doesn't kill themselves...


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 06:51:59 PM
Ah so you did use M1T... well methyl-1-test... is a steroid... and a hardcore one... from all the years of reading about PHs ('legal steroids' -- hah they are steroids) M1T was one of THE most powerful, 10mg will blow you the hell up... and from the posts of most even MORE powerful than superdrol.... for which on average people will run 30mg...

I'm not surprised then you got gains from it... The only thing maybe worse and more powerful would be methyl trenbolone or which you only need like 0.5mg to 1mg ED

And for any kids reading this naively thinking OH WOW more powerful... read more, it wasn't meant even for medical drug use, it was to test androgenicity of other steroids as it was SO powerful... instant liver failure to close to instant liver failure not unheard of. Fastest way to destroy liver. So yeah just putting warning up there for what I mentioned so someone dumb doesn't kill themselves...

Yes but 4 of my 6 shows were before I tried m1t, this picture of me in my avatar was before m1t!  And I used m1t twice in 2004 haven't used it since.  And yes I made amazing gains from it!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: magikusar on November 22, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
As natural as flex wheeler and michael jordan.

As natural as diet coke.

As natural a marriage.

As natural as the hulk.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
As Natural as a White Canadian marrying a Paki and becoming a Muslim.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Hulkotron on November 22, 2012, 07:03:36 PM
Stop picking on Big Ach you assholes.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 07:04:20 PM
As natural as a get bigger backing down from an internet fight ;D


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 07:07:57 PM
Big Ach may / may not have been natural all his life, but that doesn't matter since he had an alternative motive and Floyd.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 22, 2012, 07:08:26 PM
As Natural as a White Canadian marrying a Paki and becoming a Muslim.

I didn't know Pakistan is in Africa :D Wow you learn something every day! And you got that in the wrong order, I became Muslim then married, well not a Pakistani. Hey have a great day gaywon :D


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 07:12:50 PM
I didn't know Pakistan is in Africa :D Wow you learn something every day! And you got that in the wrong order, I became Muslim then married, well not a Pakistani.
What? You married an African? A NIG?? A Ugandan Sailor???? Even worse!

Clearly they all have alternate motives and Floyd.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 22, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
Oh boy. I could respond yet again, but you're too retarded for my time :) You're probably some retarded fat 40+ year with no friends and no life, old fart. Bye.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 22, 2012, 07:32:47 PM
Oh boy. I could respond yet again, but you're too retarded for my time :) You're probably some retarded fat 40+ year with no friends and no life, old fart. Bye.
You are correct. I am getting up there in age, although i am not an old fart like Wes or Coach Huang, but i'm getting there eventually.

Even still, i am neither Black nor Muslim, so i am still as amazing as i was in my early 30s.

What's your excuse?



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 07:38:14 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/10z4xhl.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: che on November 22, 2012, 07:45:03 PM
Big Ach = horrible genetics , great work ethic .


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: the_swami on November 22, 2012, 07:47:31 PM
My best showing ever was before I even knew what m1T is bro... wtf are you talking about...

This was before m1t  so sorry bro, I didn't just "retain" my m1t gains!

(http://ahmedelattar.com/images/crabby.jpg)


hit a raw nerve bro?

filt denial


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 07:51:09 PM

hit a raw nerve bro?

filt denial

Jealous much?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Mr. Magoo on November 22, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
Jealous much?

Got the ph.d. yet?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
Got the ph.d. yet?

No but I had a huge exam on Monday called the candidacy exam which I rocked!  Almost there!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: the_swami on November 22, 2012, 07:56:45 PM
Jealous much?

not jealous

just cant stand filt liars who claim "natural " /"drug free" when theyve use steroids as you have

i think you have a very good physique, good shape , complete plus great dedication and work ethic to BB


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Marty Champions on November 22, 2012, 07:57:11 PM
big ach is very repulsive but seems liek an okay guy?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 08:03:14 PM
No but I had a huge exam on Monday called the candidacy exam which I rocked!  Almost there!

Were you inspired by KHOFO Fella?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: pulling weight on November 22, 2012, 08:03:58 PM
Great Arab genetic



Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: che on November 22, 2012, 08:06:53 PM
Great Arab genetic



 ;D

(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/img_1990.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 08:21:47 PM
;D

(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/img_1990.jpg)

Worst thing about that day.  My whole family came out, and this was my worst showing ever.  Got dead last at that show !!!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 08:22:31 PM
Why wasnt KHOFO there to cheer you on, Big Ach?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: che on November 22, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Worst thing about that day.  My whole family came out, and this was my worst showing ever.  Got dead last at that show !!!
They were there to support you , I'm  pretty sure they didn't care about your placing  because they love you .
Big Ach  why  don't you get your little brother in shape ?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: WOOO on November 22, 2012, 08:39:14 PM
big ach

you have ugly teeth

an ugly nose

but seem like a nice guy...

not nice enough to fuck my sister

but nice enough to clean my toilet


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 09:35:39 PM
They were there to support you , I'm  pretty sure they didn't care about your placing  because they love you .
Big Ach  why  don't you get your little brother in shape ?

I Have tried but Its very difficult to find a way to motivate an autistic child, plus they don't live near me now.  But I told my mom she has to improve his diet at home So she started doing that, and we have his tutor/caretaker now take him to the gym a few times a week to get him moving some and not just sitting there playing video games all the time.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2012, 09:36:36 PM
I Have tried but Its very difficult to find a way to motivate an autistic child, plus they don't live near me now.  But I told my mom she has to improve his diet at home So she started doing that, and we have his tutor/caretaker now take him to the gym a few times a week to get him moving some and not just sitting there playing video games all the time.

Also, getting him involved in activities with other autistic people may be useful!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: TrueGrit on November 22, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
That girl is really attractive....


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 09:46:16 PM
Also, getting him involved in activities with other autistic people may be useful!

Yeah the school he goes to try to involve them in some sort of physical activities, but I think Its not enough and its got more to do with diet, He loves to eat, so they have to start watching his food more Strictly,.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: pulling weight on November 23, 2012, 12:17:44 AM
What is the weird design on the shirts.
I sort of like it but it looks like a handless gorilla with an asshole for a head


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 23, 2012, 12:29:55 AM
If Big Ach claims Natty, THEN HE IS NATTY!


If Big Ach claims Fatty, SO BE IT, THEN HE IS FATTY!


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: pulling weight on November 23, 2012, 12:32:36 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/Sz-gzb0XjVI/AAAAAAAAEik/eA8PjrdYg30/s400/Gustavo+Badell+Impromptu+Posing+at+Press+Conference+-+2007+Olympia+Weekend.jpg)

100% Natural Hard Work


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Nomad on November 23, 2012, 12:35:38 AM
Worst thing about that day.  My whole family came out, and this was my worst showing ever.  Got dead last at that show !!!

Have you thought of slightly upping the dosage? In order to compete with other "naturals" in your natural level dosages?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Primemuscle on November 23, 2012, 12:44:47 AM
I Have tried but Its very difficult to find a way to motivate an autistic child, plus they don't live near me now.  But I told my mom she has to improve his diet at home So she started doing that, and we have his tutor/caretaker now take him to the gym a few times a week to get him moving some and not just sitting there playing video games all the time.

I am impressed that you take an interest in your brother's needs and health.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: dj181 on November 23, 2012, 02:09:04 AM
Stop picking on Big Ach you assholes.

times a gazillion


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: backday on November 23, 2012, 03:59:56 AM
I Have tried but Its very difficult to find a way to motivate an autistic child, plus they don't live near me now.  But I told my mom she has to improve his diet at home So she started doing that, and we have his tutor/caretaker now take him to the gym a few times a week to get him moving some and not just sitting there playing video games all the time.
Hej BIG ACK , I fully understand how you feel. I have an autistic brother
my self :)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 23, 2012, 07:31:01 AM
What is the weird design on the shirts.
I sort of like it but it looks like a handless gorilla with an asshole for a head

(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bigachincadjusted.jpg)

It kind of reminds me of those aliens in that movie The Fifth Element lol

Hej BIG ACK , I fully understand how you feel. I have an autistic brother
my self :)

Is he older or younger than you?  Mine is younger.  Good, Fun kid, likes video games and action movies, wish he liked sports more.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: che on November 23, 2012, 06:47:14 PM
I Have tried but Its very difficult to find a way to motivate an autistic child,


(http://alden-tan.com/wp-content/uploads/noexcusesWow.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7P5F9OcWKa8/T_oag9CeTtI/AAAAAAAABdU/m7TRqJnNugg/s1600/noexcusesNumber10.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: haider on November 23, 2012, 06:48:46 PM

(http://alden-tan.com/wp-content/uploads/noexcusesWow.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7P5F9OcWKa8/T_oag9CeTtI/AAAAAAAABdU/m7TRqJnNugg/s1600/noexcusesNumber10.jpg)

asshole move, Che


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: a_ahmed on November 23, 2012, 06:50:35 PM
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bigachincadjusted.jpg)

You should get those tumors checked out, that's not looking good

PS - paintbrush expert ftw


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: calfzilla on November 23, 2012, 07:13:16 PM

(http://alden-tan.com/wp-content/uploads/noexcusesWow.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7P5F9OcWKa8/T_oag9CeTtI/AAAAAAAABdU/m7TRqJnNugg/s1600/noexcusesNumber10.jpg)


I lol'd


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: anabolichalo on November 24, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
the guy with the artificial leg has horrid form

was he coached by crossfit?


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: dr.chimps on November 24, 2012, 10:29:23 AM

(http://alden-tan.com/wp-content/uploads/noexcusesWow.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7P5F9OcWKa8/T_oag9CeTtI/AAAAAAAABdU/m7TRqJnNugg/s1600/noexcusesNumber10.jpg)

Hehe. Last two pics are gold.    ;D


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 24, 2012, 10:30:33 AM
Oh man . . .  . . . . . . .  just wrong wrong wrong worng. 


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on November 24, 2012, 10:33:25 AM
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-CDEA_50B104CC.jpg)









(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-6E03_50B104CC.jpg)










(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-AB4D_50B104CC.jpg)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: backday on November 24, 2012, 10:45:06 AM




Is he older or younger than you?  Mine is younger.  Good, Fun kid, likes video games and action movies, wish he liked sports more.
Mine is younger too, I spent some years taking care of him when I was a teen, he liked to walk for hours, and run long distances too , so HE kept me in shape :)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 24, 2012, 07:43:35 PM
;D

(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/img_1990.jpg)

i ain't sayin she a gold digger, but she ain't fuckin with no broke n i g g a

good for you ach, she's hot as hell


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 24, 2012, 08:15:10 PM
i ain't sayin she a gold digger, but she ain't fuckin with no broke n i g g a

good for you ach, she's hot as hell

That's my sister in law not my wife. And before you say anything she is married with kids to a very successful surgeon so let's just let this go now :)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: polychronopolous on November 24, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
That's my sister in law not my wife. And before you say anything she is married with kids to a very successful surgeon so let's just let this go now :)

Your brother is an autistic surgeon?  ???


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 24, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
That's my sister in law not my wife. And before you say anything she is married with kids to a very successful surgeon so let's just let this go now :)

if that's your wife's sister, your wife must be pretty hot too.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 24, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
Your brother is an autistic surgeon?  ???

My wife's sister


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 24, 2012, 09:02:49 PM
Your brother is an autistic surgeon?  ???

google michael burry, funny guy.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: polychronopolous on November 24, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
google michael burry, funny guy.

I'm currently watching Kent Hovind's cse videos where he talks about not paying taxes for 25 plus years and the impending fall of the government. Entertaining stuff as well.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Alex23 on November 26, 2012, 08:55:08 PM
BIG HACK = Real bodybuilder.


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: BIG ACH on November 26, 2012, 09:30:39 PM
BIG HACK = Real bodybuilder.

Thanks brother man!  right back at you!  8)


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 27, 2012, 03:39:10 AM
Big Ach, you lie about being natural. You use hormones aplenty yet, your shitty genes and penchant for bingeing on junk, make you a doughey liar. You should stop with the lies. You try to play nice guy but you lie your ass off.

You are as natural as birlegs Groin


Title: Re: Big Ach claims natural in this after pic
Post by: GoneAway on November 27, 2012, 05:28:55 AM
Big ACH is livin' the dream.