creatine + caffeine?

[overmannr]

I have been taking creatine for years now in my morning coffee and now a new container I bought (from what I am told is a good company) tells me I am not supposed to mix my creatine with my morning coffee because it negates the effects. It is the most sugary thing I eat in the day. Is it really true that caffeine somehow diminishes the effects of my creatine?

[danielson]

I have always used grapejuice. Works pretty good.

[ozman]

I have been taking creatine for years now in my morning coffee and now a new container I bought (from what I am told is a good company) tells me I am not supposed to mix my creatine with my morning coffee because it negates the effects. It is the most sugary thing I eat in the day. Is it really true that caffeine somehow diminishes the effects of my creatine?

never had it

but the supp guy up the road say's no coffee at all with creatine

[overmannr]

never had it

but the supp guy up the road say's no coffee at all with creatine

he happen to say why?

[ozman]

i think he said it negated the effects somehow

guy knows his stuff

was a good state level competitor a few years back

[WOOO]

i take my creatine post workout and before bed... it solves the problem... on off days i take it with lunch and before bed

[darksol]

For Creatine to work you need to provide a way for you body to transport it into your cells. This is reason they say to take it with dextrose ( Grape juice ).  Coffee tends to dehydrate you, so in effect it would limit the benefits of creatine.  This doesn't mean you won' get gains, but the gains would be much greater if you were to ditch caffiene when using creatine to builk.  This advice is from my own experience with Creatine and Caffiene, and Creatine and Ephedra, and Creatine and ECA.  Creatine and ECA in my experience just made me sick in the gym. Way too much lactate in too short a time span.

[Princess L]

Here's some stuff you might want to read 
I'm not in the mood 

Graham, T.E., Hibbert, E., & Sathasivam, P. (1998). Metabolic and exercise endurance effects of coffee and caffeine ingestion. Journal of Applied Physiology, 85, 883-889
Harris, R.C, Soderlund, K., & Hultman, E. (1992). Elevation of creatine in resting and exercised muscle of normal subjects by creatine supplementation. Clinical Science, 83, 367-374
Hespel, P., Op't Eijnde, B., & Van Leemputte, M. (2002). Opposite actions of caffeine and creatine on muscle relaxation time in humans. Journal of Applied Physiology, 92, 513-518
Vandenberghe, K., N. Gillis, M. Van Leemputte, P. Van Hecke, F. Vanstapel, and P. Hespel. (1996). Caffeine counteracts the ergogenic action of muscle creatine loading. Journal of Applied Physiology, 80, 452-457

[Dreadlifter]

For Creatine to work you need to provide a way for you body to transport it into your cells. This is reason they say to take it with dextrose ( Grape juice ).  Coffee tends to dehydrate you, so in effect it would limit the benefits of creatine.  This doesn't mean you won' get gains, but the gains would be much greater if you were to ditch caffiene when using creatine to builk.  This advice is from my own experience with Creatine and Caffiene, and Creatine and Ephedra, and Creatine and ECA.  Creatine and ECA in my experience just made me sick in the gym. Way too much lactate in too short a time span.

Another reason grape juice is advised is the fact it's not very acidic. Taking creatine with e.g. orange juice results in reduced effectiveness due to the higher pH.

Personally, i take my pre workout creatine with either water and sugar or  caffeine-free green tea.