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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2006, 03:46:21 PM »
They have 5 junk cars on their lawns too?

Usually honda civic's


Honetly, it's pretty sad.......I seen home values drop simply with a mexican family moving onto a block.  Seriously, it's not the hard working Mexican/Hispanic families (Husband - Wife...few kids)....it's the one that move multiple families under one roof.  They're about one step above the animal kingdom.



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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2006, 03:48:11 PM »
hahaha! fiestas!

Im sorry thats mean, but funny.

It's not funny...ever want to sleep in on a sunday morning?

How about go to bed early on a Sunday night because you have to get up early for work?




Usually...these people don't have a normal M-F (9-5) job.  They can sleep all day & pick through the garbage cans

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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2006, 03:50:41 PM »
Natural b/bing could exist if a cheap, reliable, and easy to administer test were devised.   And backed by the IOC.  Then, natural b/bing might have a chance.



People pay to see freaks. Would people pay to see naturals? Remains to be seen.
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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2006, 03:50:56 PM »
Mexico isn't a third world country.

It would be considered second world. Much like India or China. They might be crappy but they are not Congo or Rwanda Or Somalia or Afghanistan or some other equally crappy country.

There is a following of Natural bodybuilders and bodybuilding everywhere.

Also not everyone is a cheat or a liar.

There are more tested shows all the time. The darkside might appeal to those that want it quicker and faster but I don't.
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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2006, 03:53:17 PM »
It's not funny...ever want to sleep in on a sunday morning?

How about go to bed early on a Sunday night because you have to get up early for work?




Usually...these people don't have a normal M-F (9-5) job.  They can sleep all day & pick through the garbage cans
thats horrible.
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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2006, 03:55:16 PM »
Mexico isn't a third world country.


It's third world...100%


Until the political corruption leaves & the cities and people are taken care of....

it's third world

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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2006, 04:13:46 PM »
People pay to see freaks. Would people pay to see naturals? Remains to be seen.

If a $25 test existed where you could accurately determine if the physique was real or not, the fake stuff would be greatly devalued.   Many would still want to see 22" arms, but many more would want to see what could be built legit.






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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2006, 04:16:55 PM »
Hungary isn't much different than Bosnia in terms of the standard of living.


You were in Hungary in 1998.

That's 8 years ago.

Without going into too much detail, Hungary is a member of EU these days, and no country becomes a member unless it meets certain standards.

You think not much can happen in 8 years? Think again.

A country such as the Chech Republic, that used to be poor, is currently booming. As is most of these countries.

Fortunately, you have an obsolete image of Hungary.

There are still problems, such as ineffective farming, and little high-tech industries. But Hungary is part of the EU, and will eventually catch up with the rest of the members.

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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2006, 04:17:55 PM »
All natural shows in the UK are drug tested.The NPA tests are carried out by UK Sports to IOC/WADA standards.The BNBF have pioneered the use of off season/out of competition testing.Sure,some people could try to beat the tests but is it worth it? Firstly you risk getting tested positive-having to pay for your drug test,get a lifetime ban and be branded a cheat by your peers.Secondly,if you did beat the test you would know yourself that you had cheated and get no pleasure from any victories.Thirdly,what do you win-a trophy and a few supplements.

I have competed lifetime natural with moderate success(won regional qualifiers and placed 5th at the national finals) and truly believe that 95% are clean.I'm not going to worry about what others may or may not be taking as I have enough to worry about trying to get those glutes and hams in ;D If others want to cheat that's up to them,don't be put off competition because you think your competitors might not be natural just get in the shape of your life and be a real winner.

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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2006, 04:27:29 PM »
Never was!

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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2006, 04:54:07 PM »
.......dead
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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2006, 05:08:43 PM »
Well I've been on the cover of a not g/f/p BB magazine  :P


I give you your props if you are a natty if that's you but no offense, it's not Flexx or any other big magazine of which the majority of the BBing community subscribes to.  I would believe you are natty and have a great physique but people just don't pay for that look.

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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2006, 05:34:21 PM »
I agree with what you said above.  I used to promote natural BB shows and I struggled to fill seats.  People want to see freaks.

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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2006, 05:44:12 PM »
I agree with what you said above.  I used to promote natural BB shows and I struggled to fill seats.  People want to see freaks.

Sad reality is there are alot of dudes on the sauce that still don't look that good!

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« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2006, 06:04:33 PM »
Sad reality is there are alot of dudes on the sauce that still don't look that good!

true but his biceps look to be about 16 and his chest......dude. up the dosage
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2006, 08:13:38 PM »
true but his biceps look to be about 16 and his chest......dude. up the dosage

Well I was 158 lbs there at 5'8".  In my avatar I'm 174lbs.

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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2006, 07:40:18 AM »
Natural BB IS DEAD ;D ;D ;D




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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2006, 12:23:59 PM »
All natural shows in the UK are drug tested.The NPA tests are carried out by UK Sports to IOC/WADA standards.The BNBF have pioneered the use of off season/out of competition testing.Sure,some people could try to beat the tests but is it worth it? Firstly you risk getting tested positive-having to pay for your drug test,get a lifetime ban and be branded a cheat by your peers.Secondly,if you did beat the test you would know yourself that you had cheated and get no pleasure from any victories.Thirdly,what do you win-a trophy and a few supplements.

I have competed lifetime natural with moderate success(won regional qualifiers and placed 5th at the national finals) and truly believe that 95% are clean.I'm not going to worry about what others may or may not be taking as I have enough to worry about trying to get those glutes and hams in ;D If others want to cheat that's up to them,don't be put off competition because you think your competitors might not be natural just get in the shape of your life and be a real winner.

I just hope that you really aren't that dump?  Everywhere where they have competitions between men about size, strength, speed etc. there is doping. No matter if there is tests or not. So simple. When there is even a tin medal to win, there is somebody trying to cheat it for himself and you can't prevent that with any way possible. You must have heard Olympics, summer or winter, no matter. There have always been tests for competitors, but from 100% who have used doping, only 0.01% get caught. How the hell that's happened? One of the biggest sport event in whole world, and by far most money involved, and they doesn't have proper tests? If you try to put that to proportion, what is the  probability that you have foolproof test in some natural bodybuilding contest? None what so ever, so it is futile to talk about natural bodybuilders. There is no way to proof that somebody is natural, so why make the claim?

You pass the test today, but what you were using last year? Did you juiced up first five or ten years of your training, then stop and claim you are natural. Prove that isn't true, if you can. There is no way in hell to prove that, so there is many shades of truth on natural bodybuilding. One of the funniest definitions for natural was a guy who was juicing heavily past 15 years, stop for a year and TaDaa!!!: here you have a natural bodybuilder. What a fucking joke.

If Ronnie stops and doesn't use any gear for a year, he can go for natural contest ? Well why not, in that time he is natural, no way to deny that...
If you have to define natural bodybuilder, there is only one way to do that: bodybuilder who haven't use anything, no chemical help what so ever never in his life and who can prove that. Can you prove that you fit in that definition? Nope.

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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2006, 02:05:43 PM »
I cannot prove that to anyone else-unless you trust a polygraph,but I know myself,that is far more important.

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Re: natural bodybuilding, truly dead or dying?!
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2006, 02:13:12 PM »
Drugged bb, natural bb....eh, no one cares......I've heard countless men and women comment that both gymnasts and some long distance runners are "too muscular" for "their taste".

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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2006, 02:30:30 PM »