Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?

[Croatch]

Croatch, is this true?


Have you taken 'AAS' before?

Yeah.  I used to smoke weed, collect baseball cards, and jack off to the JcPenny bra section too, then I grew up.
I saw what a joke it was to obtain gains on gear and realized it was not for me, so I did one cycle and stopped...13 years ago.  Kept zero gains, gained 70lbs without the use of drugs since 2002.  I wonder why I'm unimpressed when somebody gains 15lbs off a cycle and walks around the gym like they're going to the Olympia?  Classic.  These clowns make me laugh every day.  Get some real gains bro.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Monster delusions.  If I were on, I'd want a rebate.

For someone who says he doesnt do roids, you ALWAYS bring up the subject in your threads. You admitted to doing them in the past and it's obvious you think about roids ALL THE TIME, so just admit you loved em and that you are in fact doing them now.

[Richard2004]

Yeah.  I used to smoke weed, collect baseball cards, and jack off to the JcPenny bra section too, then I grew up.
I saw what a joke it was to obtain gains on gear and realized it was not for me, so I did one cycle and stopped...13 years ago.  Kept zero gains, gained 70lbs without the use of drugs since 2002.  I wonder why I'm unimpressed when somebody gains 15lbs off a cycle and walks around the gym like they're going to the Olympia?  Classic.  These clowns make me laugh every day.  Get some real gains bro.

Congratulations Croatch, you got smart early on in your weight-training career!  

Like yourself, I gained approximately 75 lbs. of muscular bodyweight in a year-and-one-half (through all-natural weight-training) and had a physique good enough at the approximate end of that period that no less than the great John Grimek thought my physique was good enough to be really competitive in the Teen-Age Mr. America, even though my "specialty" was Olympic weightlifting at the time.

The sad part about the doper's BB efforts (beyond the health and shortened life-span risks) is that they will never know how much of their strength/development progress was due to drugs, or was the result of natural increases.

[GetItOnNY]

Croatch
              your full of shit your not 5'7 1/2"  your maybe 5'5' tops, if your lucky.My wife is 5'6" and towered above your ass, like a mother looking down on a child.Croatch is so short he has to use a step sool or wear boots with those platforms just so he doesnt look so short.Croatch is a dirty little beat that only works out to bang bit bittied bimbos, you strippers ,cocktail matresses, what ever have has big tities weather it has 4 legs he wil try to bang it
Here is a picture of Croatch before he started training

[logical?]

Yeah.  I used to smoke weed, collect baseball cards, and jack off to the JcPenny bra section too, then I grew up.
I saw what a joke it was to obtain gains on gear and realized it was not for me, so I did one cycle and stopped...13 years ago.  Kept zero gains, gained 70lbs without the use of drugs since 2002.  I wonder why I'm unimpressed when somebody gains 15lbs off a cycle and walks around the gym like they're going to the Olympia?  Classic.  These clowns make me laugh every day.  Get some real gains bro.

Fair call. If we were all held victims of the mistakes in our pasts, we would never be able to make observations.


But do you regard your past-self with the same hatred as the others?

[GoneAway]

Agreed.  I don't go around bashing gay people or races of people or fat people.  Only the shortcutters who want a pat on the back cause they made completely average gains for a basic cycle.  I love these guys!  Jokers.
Yeah, putting someone down because they're not like you, is a poor way to be.  There are many not like me, but I don't knock them, just this one special category.

I've never seen a juicer want a 'pat on the back' for stacking on muscle/winning a show. Even if they did, so what? They've shown they can do it, albeit it much easier than a natural. In BBing in general (competitive or recreational), it's all about how you look outside of the gym (and for some, inside), not the journey it takes to look that way.

[Richard2004]

Croatch
              your full of shit your not 5'7 1/2"  your maybe 5'5' tops, if your lucky.My wife is 5'6" and towered above your ass, like a mother looking down on a child.Croatch is so short he has to use a step sool or wear boots with those platforms just so he doesnt look so short.Croatch is a dirty little beat that only works out to bang bit bittied bimbos, you strippers ,cocktail matresses, what ever have has big tities weather it has 4 legs he wil try to bang it

Duhhh...ugh...grunt...yu k...yuk...and fum youse dumass spellin' and grammur, youse nevur made it pas da 8th gwade!!

[The Squadfather]

Duhhh...ugh...grunt...yuk...yuk...and fum youse dumb spellin' and grammur, youse nevur made it pas da 8th gwade!!

hahahaha, gotta agree with you here Richard, "GetitonNY" is a typical NY italian greaseball moron.

[Croatch]

Fair call. If we were all held victims of the mistakes in our pasts, we would never be able to make observations.


But do you regard your past-self with the same hatred as the others?

I wouldn't say hatred at all.  Nor do I hate someone who juices.  For me, it comes down to going against what bodybuilding should be.  If I take a pill that gives me another 20lbs, but I'm putting in the same work and effort, I would derive no satisfaction from this.  Sure, it would put me past a plateau for now.  When I plateau again, then what...take more or more of something else...and so on.  Whether you're on or not, you will always plateau one day.

[logical?]

I wouldn't say hatred at all.  Nor do I hate someone who juices.  For me, it comes down to going against what bodybuilding should be.  If I take a pill that gives me another 20lbs, but I'm putting in the same work and effort, I would derive no satisfaction from this.  Sure, it would put me past a plateau for now.  When I plateau again, then what...take more or more of something else...and so on.  Whether you're on or not, you will always plateau one day.

Do you feel the same way about whey- as they surely aid muscular growth?

[Croatch]

Do you feel the same way about whey- as they surely aid muscular growth?

No.  If I stopped taking whey protein, I wouldn't lose 30% of my gains.

[Bast000]

i stopped taking whey and there is no difference

[Croatch]

i stopped taking whey and there is no difference

Dude, you're avatar is too much.  Nice coloring on the DA original.

[logical?]

No.  If I stopped taking whey protein, I wouldn't lose 30% of my gains.

Fair call. What about small cycles with good PCT and post cycle training, eating and rest, then?

No mass lost- or negligable.

[Forbidden]

What do you think?  I'm sure juicers can rationalize it any way.  Why do people smoke dope? SHoot up?  I doubt a "show" is their first reason. I would say insecurity.

Yeah I agree, but then we all know that drugs are a part of the sport.  So it would be like saying that a Basketball Player has an obsession for basketballs??