Author Topic: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use? (Read 7834 times)

Croatch · « **Reply #50 on:** December 09, 2006, 06:11:31 PM »

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Answer the question Croatch---"do u feel a woman taking estrogen is as corrupt and f*cked up as a man taking testosterone?"----and why do u feel this way?

No.

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Croatch has an obsession against steroids and steroid users.I say to Croatch get over it all ready, lol.If guys want to use gear thats there choice, not yours, you cant control the world.Croatch you have a great physique for a natural guy, but you never stepped on stage and had to deal with the pressures of having to please the fans.

You should never take something to please some strange crowd of tranny/muscleworshipping fruitcakes.
You chose to see how far you could take your physique through drug use, but you had a physique to begin with through years of hard work and dedication. Big difference from the douchebag who decides to get into lifting and wants to be "hardcore" like the "pros", so blast a bunch of gear, then look worse than me. Those people will always be pathetic to me, anyway you break it down. It's just the majority of people who use gear, that give it a bad name.

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Croatch get over the Napleaon complex my friend and come by my house and I will give you a shot of testosterone to make you feel better okay, lmao........

Are you saying 5' 7 1/2" is short?

Shouldn't you be making love to your online trannypet, Kegdrainer?

Devon97 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 09, 2006, 06:22:13 PM »

Croatch, who is that chump you workout with at LVAC?

logical? · « **Reply #52 on:** December 09, 2006, 07:35:05 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on December 09, 2006, 06:11:31 PM

No.You should never take something to please some strange crowd of tranny/muscleworshipping fruitcakes.

Does this include protein powder?

Or beef, if you want to get big to impress people?

GoneAway · « **Reply #53 on:** December 09, 2006, 08:55:24 PM »

Quote from: logical? on December 09, 2006, 07:35:05 PM

Does this include protein powder?

Or beef, if you want to get big to impress people?

You probably shouldn't take up BBing if all you want to do is impress people.

logical? · « **Reply #54 on:** December 09, 2006, 09:44:14 PM »

I've got a feeling that accounts for somewhere between 98-99% of the people doing it , though.

GoneAway · « **Reply #55 on:** December 09, 2006, 09:54:49 PM »

Quote from: logical? on December 09, 2006, 09:44:14 PM

I've got a feeling that accounts for somewhere between 98-99% of the people doing it , though.

Probably right. I meant more along the lines of serious BBing (competing).

logical? · « **Reply #56 on:** December 09, 2006, 09:56:50 PM »

Fair call. Yeah, I started out for those reasons- but I moved away from them after a few years. I think most lifters who stay in it for that long do.

GoneAway · « **Reply #57 on:** December 09, 2006, 10:09:11 PM »

Did you get onstage or just hoped to compete one day?

logical? · « **Reply #58 on:** December 09, 2006, 10:12:20 PM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on December 09, 2006, 10:09:11 PM

Did you get onstage or just hoped to compete one day?

I hope to compete- I've only been training for six years. How about you?

GoneAway · « **Reply #59 on:** December 09, 2006, 10:19:46 PM »

I reckon 6 years is more than enough if you've been eating/training right. I trained for about 2 yrs with a very bad nutritional plan and looked basically the same as when I started! Eating is 50% of the struggle.

I hope to compete next year, around the time or Mr. Getbig. The thrill of competition is a big draw for me. Getting up there, doing a mindblowing routine and getting cheers from the crowd. What more could you ask for?

logical? · « **Reply #60 on:** December 09, 2006, 10:29:22 PM »

Yeah, that would be awesome.

I wonder how badly competitive bodybuilders get stage fright?

Bodies · « **Reply #61 on:** December 10, 2006, 02:07:14 AM »

Quote from: Croatch on December 08, 2006, 10:40:12 AM

Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?

of course many people use competing as a way to rationalize the heavy drug use to themselves. but many more compete for the love of it and know that they will not achieve the level of physique they desire without the proper tools
would you ride a bike everywhere because cars are "unnatural" and more dangerous? our just use the more efficient vehicle even though it is "dangerous, unnatural, and dirty" if you prefer bike races to car races then enter those instead - but don't hate on the race car drivers because they go faster than you

GoneAway · « **Reply #62 on:** December 10, 2006, 04:39:35 AM »

Quote from: Bodies on December 10, 2006, 02:07:14 AM

of course many people use competing as a way to rationalize the heavy drug use to themselves. but many more compete for the love of it and know that they will not achieve the level of physique they desire without the proper tools
would you ride a bike everywhere because cars are "unnatural" and more dangerous? our just use the more efficient vehicle even though it is "dangerous, unnatural, and dirty" if you prefer bike races to car races then enter those instead - but don't hate on the race car drivers because they go faster than you

So true. No need for hating based on drug use. If you don't respect them, that's your opinion, but it just brings bad vibes and is pretty tedius to hear the same group hating on eachother. Jealousy manifests itself in many different ways, and dissing someone because they're what you aren't is one of them.

Croatch · « **Reply #63 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:22:11 AM »

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Jealousy manifests itself in many different ways, and dissing someone because they're what you aren't is one of them.

Agreed. I don't go around bashing gay people or races of people or fat people. Only the shortcutters who want a pat on the back cause they made completely average gains for a basic cycle. I love these guys! Jokers.
Yeah, putting someone down because they're not like you, is a poor way to be. There are many not like me, but I don't knock them, just this one special category.

dzulboy · « **Reply #64 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:33:39 AM »

Quote from: Croatch on December 08, 2006, 10:40:12 AM

Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?

agreed but then again i see assholes doing mega cycles just to look half decent going to a club so who knows i know i barely do shit compared to the people i compete against

Croatch · « **Reply #65 on:** December 10, 2006, 09:48:41 AM »

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but then again i see assholes doing mega cycles just to look half decent going to a club

Yes. Megadouchebags.

Richard2004 · « **Reply #66 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:16:01 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on December 08, 2006, 10:40:12 AM

Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?

One can understand the logic of a BB/fitness/figure amateur, or pro., competitor juicin'/doping because he/she thinks that they have to do so keep up with the competition, that they assume is juicin'/doping as well...i.e. the age-old mindset of "do anything to try and get a competitive edge"!

However, what is absolutely INSANE are the legions of RECREATIONAL BBers who "juice/dope to the gills and never have any intention of competing!?? Individuals who are so insecure, and impatient for rapid gains, that they will risk throwing away their health and longevity "with both hands" just for a few extra inches/pounds of muscle size in shorter periods of time and with less effort. Talk about not playing with a full deck!!

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #67 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:54:55 PM »

I do steroids because i love the way they make me feel. Show or no show. When Im on I am the alpha male. I grow faster or get leaner, and feel great.

Spike · « **Reply #68 on:** December 10, 2006, 01:05:06 PM »

Quote from: Kegdrainer on December 08, 2006, 01:21:19 PM

i heard you should grind up estrogen tabs and put them in the water for your hydroponics system and your weed plants will grow bigger buds.

if that is true -- I am going to go inject my plant with the depo shot

or order some orthotricycline from Vince G!!

Richard2004 · « **Reply #69 on:** December 10, 2006, 01:08:32 PM »

Quote from: SWOLETRAIN on December 10, 2006, 12:54:55 PM

I do steroids because i love the way they make me feel. Show or no show. When Im on I am the alpha male. I grow faster or get leaner, and feel great.

This goes along with the warped mentality/thinking of a bunch of teenagers who, when given the question: "if they could take some drug that would make them "famous" and then they later be dead by age 25" (words to the effect), would they take it?! The majority answered "yes"!??

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #70 on:** December 10, 2006, 01:44:32 PM »

Wrong i am 22 and have been bodybuilding for almost 5 years. This is my first year using. I am 5' 10 and was at a natural plateau around 199- 207lbs. I am currently bulking and almost at a pretty lean 220 lbs. I love this sport or hobby, whatever you wanna call it. Mega cycles are for retards. I am all about basics... nothing even remotley out of the ordinary. If you absolutly love lifting, whats wrong with performing at my maximum potential?

Croatch · « **Reply #71 on:** December 10, 2006, 02:32:27 PM »

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Why does Croatch start threads like this when he's on tons of shit?

Monster delusions. If I were on, I'd want a rebate.

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #72 on:** December 10, 2006, 03:16:06 PM »

Its all about show one responds to the gear taken. A gram is a lot of shit. I never go that high and i am making sweet gains keeping sides at a min. Until one absolutly needs to take doseages in excess of a gram, i dont recommend that for anybody.

brian36 · « **Reply #73 on:** December 10, 2006, 04:27:56 PM »

Didn't you used to do steroids Croatch?

logical? · « **Reply #74 on:** December 10, 2006, 04:45:41 PM »

Quote from: brian36 on December 10, 2006, 04:27:56 PM

Didn't you used to do steroids Croatch?

Croatch, is this true?

Have you taken 'AAS' before?