What is your prediction of what will happen in Iraq?

[Cavalier22]

history might repeat itself


"General Giap, Commander of the North Vietnamese Army and the Viet Cong, was interviewed by a Newsweek reporter. He told the reporter that after TET (1968), the Viet Cong were no longer usable, and the North Vietnamese Army would take years to rebuild, and would not be able to mount another offensive. The TET offensive of 1968 was an absolute failure for the North. They lost over 70,000 soldiers and Viet Cong. He stated that it was only the protests in the United States that gave him hope. He stated that he soon realized he didn't have to win, just hold on longer than the American people. The South Vietnamese Government collapsed after the United States Congress cut off all funding. The United States Military won every single battle, but the media and the politicians lost the war."

[Cavalier22]

" Iraqi Interior Ministry estimates 1,000 killed in one week"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/04/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Proportional to their population, that's the equivalent of 11,000 people being killed here.

Yes, great things are happening in Iraq... 

wow. muslims are killing each other.  what else is new

[rockyfortune]

American will leave because of a lack of will. Not because it isn't winnable.

America will spend even more money on defense to protect themselves from a more dangerous world, because they have lost influence.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

I wouldn't want to see that happen though. America must help Iraq embrace freedom and not violence and the media must do a much better job reporting the successes. I mean quite a bit of Iraq military control has already been turned back over to the Iraqis.

I think giving Iraq set targets will help. That is how they managed to get the constitution and the second election through.

Also something has to be done to stop the meddling of Iran with Al Sadr.

Piss Poor argument bub...blame the people for lack of fortitude when they have been lied to for almost 6 years from this administration and it's administration..they should play the music to the benny hill show when they show these shitheads on tv.

[240 is Back]

American will leave because of a lack of will. Not because it isn't winnable.

How many years should Americans give "will"?

It's been nearly 6 years now.

Do we give it 10?  20? 40 years of our soldiers dying before we re-think things?

[ribonucleic]

How many years should Americans give "will"?

It's been nearly 6 years now.

Do we give it 10?  20? 40 years of our soldiers dying before we re-think things?

We're still in Okinawa, aren't we? So, 61 years and counting... 

[240 is Back]

We're still in Okinawa, aren't we? So, 61 years and counting... 

we're gonna win the thing too, dammit!

[OzmO]

We're still in Okinawa, aren't we? So, 61 years and counting... 

There's only one cave left still occupied there......

[Camel Jockey]

I wouldn't want to see that happen though. America must help Iraq embrace freedom and not violence and the media must do a much better job reporting the successes. I mean quite a bit of Iraq military control has already been turned back over to the Iraqis.

Let them discover the ideas of John Locke and other western ideals on their own. You and I don't need to tell them what the hell to do or think, especially when you consider our invasion of their land was unjustifiable to begin with. That is hypocrisy.

[ribonucleic]

There's only one cave left still occupied there......

Oh, there's plenty of occupying going on...

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9603/okinawa_rape/

Winning hearts and minds. 

[OzmO]

Oh, there's plenty of occupying going on...

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9603/okinawa_rape/

Winning hearts and minds. 

Yep they've wanted us out of there for quite some time.  We probably will eventually as technolgy allows us to project power from farther distances.

The reality is, however, violent crimes come with a large group of people.  This rape case is not significant other than the negative publicity created from the circumstances of military personal in a country where they aren't wanted.

[ribonucleic]

This rape case is not significant other than the negative publicity created from the circumstances of military personal in a country where they aren't wanted.

Well, that and the light sentences.

[OzmO]

Well, that and the light sentences.

If you look at large chunk of rape convictions and the corresponding punishments you'll find many got off lightly.  (i'm certainly not say they should have got off lightly)



I'm not trying to spin this, I'm just trying ot put it in it's proper perspective.