What is your prediction of what will happen in Iraq?

[OzmO]

What's your solution?

Should we gut it out?

Can we gut it out?

Should we cut our loses?

Should we increase our invovlement?

Can we win?

Should we abandon the people(iraqis) who are fighting with us?

What is your prediction of what will happen in Iraq?

[a_joker10]

American will leave because of a lack of will. Not because it isn't winnable.

America will spend even more money on defense to protect themselves from a more dangerous world, because they have lost influence.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

I wouldn't want to see that happen though. America must help Iraq embrace freedom and not violence and the media must do a much better job reporting the successes. I mean quite a bit of Iraq military control has already been turned back over to the Iraqis.

I think giving Iraq set targets will help. That is how they managed to get the constitution and the second election through.

Also something has to be done to stop the meddling of Iran with Al Sadr.

[mightymouse72]

American will leave because of a lack of will. Not because it isn't winnable.

you are exactly right joker.

Americans have no fortitude these days.  Some don't anyway, and they are very vocal about it.

[OzmO]

you are exactly right joker.

Americans have no fortitude these days.  Some don't anyway, and they are very vocal about it.

The Japanese thought the very same thnig in 1941

but this is a little different

[JOHN MATRIX]

we will pull out within a year, iraq will be plunged into a full blown civil war with constant violence for up to a decade or more. the whole operation will prove to have been a total fuckup due to cosmically uncomprehensibly piss poor planning and strategy.

[OzmO]

we will pull out within a year, iraq will be plunged into a full blown civil war with constant violence for up to a decade or more. the whole operation will prove to have been a total fuckup due to cosmically uncomprehensibly piss poor planning and strategy.

Piss poor planning and stategy from our beloved pres.   

[240 is Back]

We're losing beacuse people at home don't have the fortitude?

that's a f'cking excuse.

Don't blame the military planners who have intentionally tied your hands so the war would go four years to a stalemate (so that pipeline could get built).

We (the amer. public) support you 1000% and want you home alive.  We've written you a blank check in terms of men and money for 4 years.  If you're losing, it ain't cause of us.  it's cause your handlers aren't giving you the resources or strategy.

Of course, once you realize the strategy IS going according to plan - stalemate for 8 years then bail to guard the pipeline - you'll stop blaming the American people, and start looking at the REASONS you're failing on the field.

[OzmO]

We're losing beacuse people at home don't have the fortitude?

that's a f'cking excuse.

Don't blame the military planners who have intentionally tied your hands so the war would go four years to a stalemate (so that pipeline could get built).

We (the amer. public) support you 1000% and want you home alive.  We've written you a blank check in terms of men and money for 4 years.  If you're losing, it ain't cause of us.  it's cause your handlers aren't giving you the resources or strategy.

Of course, once you realize the strategy IS going according to plan - stalemate for 8 years then bail to guard the pipeline - you'll stop blaming the American people, and start looking at the REASONS you're failing on the field.

why does the war in iraq need to be a stalemate for us to build a pipeline in afghanistan?

[240 is Back]

why does the war in iraq need to be a stalemate for us to build a pipeline in afghanistan?

we're going to put iraqi oil into that pipeline too and move it all to the persian gulf.

[Cavalier22]

i hope your right 240

in any event, muslims killin each other--pretty much the status quo for the past several hundrend years at least

[Camel Jockey]

we will pull out within a year, iraq will be plunged into a full blown civil war with constant violence for up to a decade or more. the whole operation will prove to have been a total fuckup due to cosmically uncomprehensibly piss poor planning and strategy.

The best we can pray for is Iran taking Iraq under its wing. Think about it, they're both Shia countries and Iran wouldn't be doing anything the US isn't already doing. This will happen, but only if the US doesn't turn around and start a war with Iran.

Americans have no fortitude these days.  Some don't anyway, and they are very vocal about it.

So Americans don't have any balls because they disapprove of the Iraq debacle? Oh brother..  

[Parker]

The best we can pray for is Iran taking Iraq under its wing. Think about it, they're both Shia countries and Iran wouldn't be doing anything the US isn't already doing. This will happen, but only if the US doesn't turn around and start a war with Iran.

So Americans don't have any balls because they disapprove of the Iraq debacle? Oh brother..  

I was thinking same, about both points.

many Americans were not for the war, remember it was an excuse to pre-emptively go in because Iraq had WMD's...we  were all for it...then the truth comes out, plus the fact that we were not asked by the Iraqi people to go in. No one tried to overthrow Saddam.

See a pattern here:  Korea, Americans go in without being asked, Korea is now N. and S. Korea
                            Vietnam, Am's go in after France without being asked, Vietnam is now N. and S. Vietnam
                            Iraq, Am's go in without being asked, what next.....??       

[Camel Jockey]

See a pattern here:  Korea, Americans go in without being asked, Korea is now N. and S. Korea
                            Vietnam, Am's go in after France without being asked, Vietnam is now N. and S. Vietnam
                            Iraq, Am's go in without being asked, what next.....??       

Iraq might be split into three different countries. What a fucking mess!

[headhuntersix]

you are exactly right joker.

Americans have no fortitude these days.  Some don't anyway, and they are very vocal about it.

This is just about spot on. Supporting us has nothing to do with the will to win. Its national will and pride and we seem to have found other interests.

[Camel Jockey]

This is just about spot on. Supporting us has nothing to do with the will to win. Its national will and pride and we seem to have found other interests.

Oh brother... 

[headhuntersix]

Dude come on..we lack the will to win....its just not in us. Not anymore...This isn't 1941...folks are different. Besides the reasons for this part of the war are muddled at best. In my opinion regardless we have to win..u can't crush a country and then leav chaos..on many levels that would be a disaster. I think the average American is just not interested.

[GroinkTropin]

America lives in the now, not the maybe or the tomorrow. We wanted to invade when we thirsted for blood from 9/11 and when we heard saddam had WMD's and was a threat, naturally fucking liberals fucked us and we wouldn't allow our trained military to fight like we should, and got stuck there for too long and now (again) liberals are fucking us by telling us constantly on tv that the war is bad and unjust blah blah blah. Liberalism is a mental disorder, plain and simple.

[headhuntersix]

What leads the damm headlines..Lindsey Lohan and her damm drug issues or some BS dispute between Trump and Rosie. If Iraq is on Tv, it has become a vehicle for the dems to bash Bush. They could care less about the "troops". We have become a means to their end..more power.

[240 is Back]

America lives in the now, not the maybe or the tomorrow. We wanted to invade when we thirsted for blood from 9/11 and when we heard saddam had WMD's and was a threat, naturally fucking liberals fucked us and we wouldn't allow our trained military to fight like we should, and got stuck there for too long and now (again) liberals are fucking us by telling us constantly on tv that the war is bad and unjust blah blah blah. Liberalism is a mental disorder, plain and simple.

Liberals - who didn't have any power in congress and had nothing at all to do with the military decisions - fucked us in Iraq?

Damn, talk about placing blame.

The military planners fucked you.  Please quit bitching and blaming those people with anti-war opinions.  What, if you FELT better you'd FIGHT better?  Give me a break.   You do your job.  period.  If 200 americans, or 200 million americans, disagree with the war, who gives a rats ass? 

you have a job to do.  they support YOU, they don't support bush.  Do your job and PLEASE stop blaming meessage board discussions for the US' inability to beat Iraq.

[BRUCE]

Liberals - who didn't have any power in congress and had nothing at all to do with the military decisions - fucked us in Iraq?

Damn, talk about placing blame.

The military planners fucked you.  Please quit bitching and blaming those people with anti-war opinions.  What, if you FELT better you'd FIGHT better?  Give me a break.   You do your job.  period.  If 200 americans, or 200 million americans, disagree with the war, who gives a rats ass? 

you have a job to do.  they support YOU, they don't support bush.  Do your job and PLEASE stop blaming meessage board discussions for the US' inability to beat Iraq.

We're at war with Iraq, are we?  Get a clue.

[240 is Back]

We're at war with Iraq, are we?  Get a clue.

Huh?

We have not defeated Iraq yet.  I do not understand your statement.

[BRUCE]

Huh?

We have not defeated Iraq yet.  I do not understand your statement.

Gee, you are lost.  We're not at war with Iraq, my friend.  In case you haven't noticed, they have their own constitution and democratic process.

[240 is Back]

Gee, you are lost.  We're not at war with Iraq, my friend.  In case you haven't noticed, they have their own constitution and democratic process.

We're at war IN iraq, but not WITH Iraq?  The same could be said for every war.  But who gives a shit.  man you like to waste time with word games. 

Yes we are fighting groups on both sides plus demons in the govt, but yes, they have the puppet regime elected from the group of handpicked US candidates.

[BRUCE]

We're at war IN iraq, but not WITH Iraq?  The same could be said for every war.  But who gives a shit.  man you like to waste time with word games. 

Yes we are fighting groups on both sides plus demons in the govt, but yes, they have the puppet regime elected from the group of handpicked US candidates.

Er, okay. How about you just admit you're wrong on this one, alright?

[240 is Back]

Er, okay. How about you just admit you're wrong on this one, alright?

ok youre right, i worded it incorrectly when correctly making my point.

I forgot we're playing for points here.  What's the score now, and when do I get my getbig check?