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[blinky]

i thought it was funny how the pre-game talk was that "griese wont turn the ball over" 
oops.......3 int

i was surprised at how bad the niners O was. ya Smith was out on their first possession( just saw hes out 4-6 weeks)  but it was more than that. O-line was brutal and took way too many penalties.
that being said...my seahawks should have pounded them yet only managed 23 points.disappointing 

chargers are a mess. even with LT getting 132 yards they still blew it. shake up has to be coming.



lots of surprises so far
at the start of the year who thought after week 4 that the bears and chargers would be 1-3 and the packers 4-0 .
and how the hell is AZ 2-2 with wins over seattle and pittsburgh??

just saw that the bucs lost RB williams(knee) and OT petitgout(knee) for the rest of the season

[body88]

What a disaster...the Chiefs are horrible, horrible and they manage to beat them. They have a crappy line and a one dimensional running back who gained over 100 yards against Merriman,who's back to doing his little dance. Mister classy looked like he was going to cry again. Rivers was awfu. The AFC west sucks. 3 teams tied for 1st place. I didn't think the Bronco's would do as well as they did in the beginning yesterday. They couldn't stop the short passes. No adjustment at half time. Maybe Harrison will be out for awhile.

If you get beat by herm edwards you are in deep shit.

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

One thing you can never accuse a Browns fan of is being a front runner.

Oh gotcha.

Then this victory over the Ravens must have felt like a Superbowl win, huh?

I guess I would feel the same way after more than a decade of feeling like you got your balls kicked in.

First, Modell motherfucks your city by taking the Browns out of town and into Baltimore. Don't blame Modell for that, by the way. It took Cleveland to lose a football franchise before the city finally agreed to build a new renovated stadium instead of the run down piece of shit football facility the Browns played in for decades.

Then, the franchise goes and wins a superbowl bowl title within an unprecedented five years of existence in Baltimore.

I could go on and on about the series of ass rapings Browns fans have accumulated over the years(like their win/loss record against the Ravens and their horrible draft picks and coaches) but I think you've suffered enough and it doesn't benefit me to kick someone while they're down.

[CalvinH]

G-men are still alive
Jeez,ya think Andy Reid would of given his Ltackle a little help after,Oh I don't know maybe Osi's 4th or 5th
sack
I know the Eagles were beat up but thats football.

[mass 04]

G-men are still alive
Jeez,ya think Andy Reid would of given his Ltackle a little help after,Oh I don't know maybe Osi's 4th or 5th
sack
I know the Eagles were beat up but thats football.

typical, the fat coaches are always criticized more than the skinny ones, Tony Dungy never gets it like this

[CalvinH]

typical, the fat coaches are always criticized more than the skinny ones, Tony Dungy never gets it like this

Hahaha,what about Norv then

[mass 04]

Hahaha,what about Norv then

His terrible coaching transcends weight, he could 55 lbs and he'd still suck

[CalvinH]

His terrible coaching transcends weight, he could 55 lbs and he'd still suck

Sean Payton

[mass 04]

Sean Payton

you're relentless

[CalvinH]

you're relentless

That cuz your first answer cracked me up

[big L dawg]

Oh gotcha.

Then this victory over the Ravens must have felt like a Superbowl win, huh?

I guess I would feel the same way after more than a decade of feeling like you got your balls kicked in.

First, Modell motherfucks your city by taking the Browns out of town and into Baltimore. Don't blame Modell for that, by the way. It took Cleveland to lose a football franchise before the city finally agreed to build a new renovated stadium instead of the run down piece of shit football facility the Browns played in for decades.

Then, the franchise goes and wins a superbowl bowl title within an unprecedented five years of existence in Baltimore.

I could go on and on about the series of ass rapings Browns fans have accumulated over the years(like their win/loss record against the Ravens and their horrible draft picks and coaches) but I think you've suffered enough and it doesn't benefit me to kick someone while they're down.

so first you dog me because you thought I was a front runner,then you dog me because my team hasn't been good.wow guess I suck no matter what.

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

I didn't say you sucked.

Nothing personal, but calling my team chumps certainly didn't help your cause.

[CalvinH]

Nothing personal, but calling my team chumps certainly didn't help your cause.

Your team is a bunch of chumps

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

Your team is a bunch of chumps

gee. thanks.

Can't argue with that because they look like it now.

[Palpatine Q]

The Jets need a QB with a true NFL arm.

You can go on all day about Pennistong's touch and accuracy........you have to be able to jam the ball in there in this league

[mass 04]

The Jets need a QB with a true NFL arm.

You can go on all day about Pennistong's touch and accuracy........you have to be able to jam the ball in there in this league

He's also as brittle as drywall

[body88]

He's also as brittle as drywall

The jets have no offensive line. That is there biggest issue imo. The defense stinks as a whole. D brick is looking like a bust and Mangini has been outcoached all season. Chad is a good qb. However his arm is shot at this point.

Mangini is running a three four when he has the personel that would be far better suited for a 4 -3. He is wasting guys like Vilmas talent/speed in the 3 - 4. Vilma is just to small to be effective in the scheme imo. The kid is a great player who would be a beast in a 4 -3.

Tanny ignored the jets biggest weaknesses this offseason. Then baulked at his best offensive linemen when he wanted a pay increase of a mill. Kendall could have given that line at least some type of stability.

On the bright side Revis is a nice player, Harris to. But they gave up there entire draft to get them both. A weird move if you have glaring holes on both your lines.

A case could be made to trade Vilma for picks, start Clemens and get the correct personal (start with a Giant nt) if Mangini wants to stay with the 3 -4. A lot of NY guys are starting to say mangini was vastly overrated last year. I agree, his coaching this year has been piss poor to say the least.

[body88]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...wwhi100307.htm

Jets players starting to lose respect for Mangini

Oct. 3, 2007


After weeks of enduring criticism over the Jets' defense's poor performance, head coach Eric Mangini and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer are now feeling the heat for the offense's lack of production from within their own locker room. Although no player has said anything publicly, insiders say that players are growing increasingly irritated with the overly conservative offensive game plan. In Sunday's 17-14 loss to the previously winless Bills, QB Chad Pennington hardly went downfield at all, despite the fact that the Bills were operating with a patchwork secondary befallen by injuries. The current criticisms of the offense couldn't stand in starker contrast to the way it was received last year, the first year of the Mangini regime. In 2006, Schottenheimer had the whole team buzzing about the versatility that the shotgun and no-huddle offenses would bring, and Mangini was lauded for bringing in a coordinator with such an innovative approach to moving the ball. But as Schottenheimer's play-calling is currently being questioned, we hear that Mangini is slowly losing the respect of his players from both a coaching and personal perspective. Mangini's demanding and notoriously rigid persona has never endeared himself to many players, but they were willing to accept it last year because they were winning. Now that they're mired in a 1-3 start, the prevailing thought is that the team needs to right the ship immediately or risk the player-coach rift widening to a dysfunctional level.

[CalvinH]

Man the G-men better win this week!