Jesus Camp

[columbusdude82]

Bart Ehrman is a is a New Testament scholar and an expert on early Christianity, but I disagree with him about the part that Paul did not write some of those letter in the NT, and I disagree with him on many other things.  He used to be a Christian and now he claims to be agnostic.  Many New Testament scholars and experts on early Christianity disagree with him too.  But he knows his stuff well and if he continues his research, I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually ends up coming back to Christianity.

Well, a researcher in any field should keep his personal feelings and opinions and faith out of his research, to the largest extent possible.

He only points to the evidence. I'm no Biblical scholar so I have to go by what the experts say. The next time I get around to reading a book about the scriptures, I'm picking one by someone from a different vantage point than Ehrman.

As long as it's about looking at the evidence, it should be a fun discussion

[loco]

Well, a researcher in any field should keep his personal feelings and opinions and faith out of his research, to the largest extent possible.

He only points to the evidence. I'm no Biblical scholar so I have to go by what the experts say. The next time I get around to reading a book about the scriptures, I'm picking one by someone from a different vantage point than Ehrman.

As long as it's about looking at the evidence, it should be a fun discussion

Daniel B. Wallace , Th.M., Ph.D. is a good one.  He's considered an authority on Koine Greek grammar and New Testament textual criticism among scholars.

[columbusdude82]

Daniel B. Wallace , Th.M., Ph.D. is a good one.  He's considered an authority on Koine Greek grammar and New Testament textual criticism among scholars.

I'll look into it.

Basically, as long as the guy says "Here's my opinion, and here's the textual and historical evidence to back it up..." I'm good with it.

But I don't like the ones that go "Here's what I believe, and this was revealed from God, and you can't question it..." like Ratzinger's book "Jesus of Nazareth"...

[MCWAY]

That is directed at the women of the churches of Corinth and Ephesus at a specific time for specific a reason.  Paul would not allow women to lead in the Ephesian and Corinthian churches because of the Gnostic threat.  Paul's letters show that the Gnostic movement, the ancient equivalent of the modern "New Age movement", was being mixed with Christianity in those churches by some women. 

There are other letters Paul wrote where he says everyone in the church must serve and contribute to the church and to the Gospel.  There are passages that show Paul's estimation of specific women in his letters to the Romans and the Philippians. How can women evangelize, teach, toil at his side, exercise discipleship, manage churches, and host house churches without speaking?

Don't forget that there were women who were prophetesses (i.e. Anna, who saw Jesus as a infant in the temple) and judges of Israel (i.e. Deborah). 

[loco]

Don't forget that there were women who were prophetesses (i.e. Anna, who saw Jesus as a infant in the temple) and judges of Israel (i.e. Deborah). 

That's right.  Thanks MCWAY!