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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2008, 05:13:06 PM »
ALL DRUGS. ::)



Like I've said earlier in this thread, there's numerous examples of fighters that got caught juicing that didn't LOOK like they did.

Why WOULDN'T Fedor juice? Makes all the sense in the world that he would.
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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2008, 12:06:34 PM »
Like I've said earlier in this thread, there's numerous examples of fighters that got caught juicing that didn't LOOK like they did.

Why WOULDN'T Fedor juice? Makes all the sense in the world that he would.

I agree...i know guys who train in MMA and use steroids, you would never know by looking at them.

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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2008, 12:43:50 PM »
Performance enhancing drugs play a major factor in MMA.  It's not just AAS & GH, but there are a myriad of drugs that enhance aggressiveness, dull pain, improve focus and dramatically increase endurance. Anyone taking a cocktail of these various drugs, will be at a significant advantage over someone who is not.

As I understand it, Pride did not test for anything, so drug use was rampant.  The UFC does test & punish anyone who fails.  This does not eliminate drug use, but it does minimize it.  Some fighters are actually clean.  Others come off drugs weeks/months before fights, drastically reducing the affects of the drugs. 

It seems pretty obvious that many of the former Pride guys have had a difficult time adjusting to either coming off drugs or not being fully on them come fight time. 
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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2008, 12:46:11 PM »
I agree...i know guys who train in MMA and use steroids, you would never know by looking at them.

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Royce Gracie got caught and he looks like freaking twig. 
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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2008, 06:11:04 AM »
I dont think its really the argument that these guys look like they are on the sauce. Obviously its easier to tell with people like arona and wandy but i dont think they are "full of drugs" like bluto is saying.

I dont have any experience with it but i imagine there is only so much return on investment so to speak with running too many substances in that type of training just like in bodybuilding. You can only run so much and expect great results beyond that its just sides and lethargy. You never really hear of athletes testing positive for multiple substances from what I know. Its usually deca, EQ, nandralone. Maybe those are the ones that just happen to show up at the test. Hard to tell.

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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2008, 09:19:53 PM »
yes a few pride guys failed a drug test and a few ufc fighters have failed the drug test too

it must not be hard to pass the test if 42 year old couture passes

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Re: Pride - All drugs?
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2008, 07:44:24 AM »
yes a few pride guys failed a drug test and a few ufc fighters have failed the drug test too

it must not be hard to pass the test if 42 year old couture passes

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but he's the "natural"