Serving Your Country?

[Matt C]

Well, build up an army and put us in our place. Oh wait. 

Fact of the matter is that when you have far and away the most dominant military on the planet, you're allowed to do things like that without repercussion. It's one of the perks that comes with being the best. Sorry that you don't get to experience that out in Bumfucksville, Canada. But your anti-USA rants on the internet are definitely going to get you places.

Yes, I understand you can do that with so much power.  The Mafia can ask you for all of your life's savings and you would likely be inclined to give it to them as well.  That's not to say their request is a moral action, and that is my point; that the US is being immoral in their heavily interventionist foreign policy.  Most Canadians and Europeans are against the war in Iraq.  Now if it truly was a preemptive war, we may still have problems, that being that you can't just attack any country that you think will attack you.  That said, if there were WMDs, we might feel a little differently.  Attacking countries for oil and lying to the people is not a good form of government.  I'm surprised fewer Americans agree with this, at least based on some of the comments on here.  That said, Bush's approval rating is what?  Under 35%?

[Hedgehog]

Yes, I understand you can do that with so much power.  The Mafia can ask you for all of your life's savings and you would likely be inclined to give it to them as well.  That's not to say their request is a moral action, and that is my point; that the US is being immoral in their heavily interventionist foreign policy.  Most Canadians and Europeans are against the war in Iraq.  Now if it truly was a preemptive war, we may still have problems, that being that you can't just attack any country that you think will attack you.  That said, if there were WMDs, we might feel a little differently.  Attacking countries for oil and lying to the people is not a good form of government.  I'm surprised fewer Americans agree with this, at least based on some of the comments on here.  That said, Bush's approval rating is what?  Under 35%?

You claim that the Iraq war is bad from a moral point of view.

Well, Bush seems to think otherwise. He has God on his side. So I don't think you're getting anywhere there, sport.

What is true, and what anyone can see, is that the US economy has slowed down over the last year or so.

Another thing that is an absolute truth, is that USA has been running a negative budget the last couple of years.

With the military spending being roughly 30% of every tax dollar.


So you tell me Matt C, is the war really a problem from a moral point of view...


Or is it perhaps, a problem from a objective point of view, ie USA is actually making a net loss instead of a net gain from the Iraq war?

[MikeThaMachine]

This assumes the official story is true.  If the US soldiers are in Iraq to actually do something good for Iraq or other people in the world, I could accept that.  That is an awfully big assumption though.

It's people like you who always seem to question everything concerning governments in a negative manner that are fucking morons. Honestly WTF is "This assumes the official story is true", I mean seriously whats with people constantly questioning everything their government says in a manner to assume it's some kind of conspiracy, It's OFFICIAL what more do you need to know. I think 99.9% of the time we are either getting the truth or it's covered up for a reason serious enough that we really shouldn't/don't need to know for our own good. I mean yes there are people who could know, can handle it and could possibly help but that's not the majority so there is no reason to make everything public knowledge when only those on the inside really need to know. All I know is I live in the best country in the world and we on average have a great standard of living compared to everyone else in the world, I think my government knows what it's doing and if it does fuck up here or there can fix it and move on in the proper manner. Everyone fucks up here or there but as long as your #1 does it really matter.

[benchmstr]

Sorry, I meant to say peace time.  IMO, the IRAQ issue is way f**cked up.  Honestly, what is the point?  I don't get it.

My friend that lives 2 houses down from me has 2 years until retirement......he just got shipped back to Iraq for 6+ months.    

then whats the fucking point,i am against this war just as much as the next guy,but if you join the military you arent suppose to be doing it for a summercamp .

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[MikeThaMachine]

then whats the fucking point,i am against this war just as much as the next guy,but if you join the military you arent suppose to be doing it for a summercamp .

bench

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I know, people seem to forget an armies full time job is to be on call for battle 24/7, that comes before anything and everything unless otherwise stated by someone from above. I am not saying we need to always be fighting but we need to be prepared to do so extremely effectively at a moments notice.

[benchmstr]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I know, people seem to forget an armies full time job is to be on call for battle 24/7, that comes before anything and everything unless otherwise stated by someone from above. I am not saying we need to always be fighting but we need to be prepared to do so extremely effectively at a moments notice.

some people only pretend to be smart on the internet,i cant believe no one has pointed this out yet.

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[Mars]

The President of Iran is talking of wiping a country of the map and you think they should have nukes 

He was talking about the zionist regime wiping out just like the us wanted to get rid of the ussr, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is very loyal to the jewish community.