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Re: Serving Your Country?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2008, 01:20:17 PM »
the new Iraq will be under de leadership of the grandson of the martyred Saddam Hussein whos currently living in exile in Jordan, the puppet regime in Baghdad will be destroyed and the infidels get their tombs in the beautiful parcs of Baghdad. the legacy of his excellency will be continued, those who collaborated with the agressor and or criticised the regime will be hanged.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2008, 01:23:24 PM »
Furthermore, why is the US the only country in the world allowed to have WSMs?

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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2008, 02:41:38 PM »
Being a true patriot doesn't meaning joining the military.

What it does mean is speaking your mind, and not giving into some greedy government war meant to benefit corporations and blue blood famalies.

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2008, 05:15:33 PM »
Just thinking (while watching the latest edition of the news)......kids these dayz should graduate from high school, pick their choice of service for a minimum of 2 years, then go from there & see what happens. 


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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2008, 05:28:54 PM »
There is so much I want to say on this subject and to many of you who have already commented but I don't feel like wasting my breath on political topics with a bunch of morons. All I will say is serving your country in either the military or political arenas which directly better the said country is the greatest thing you can do to truly show your appreciation for where you come from and honor all those who came before you and made things the way they are. I don't see why so many people who honestly don't have all the facts seem to always jump on the negative side of the bandwagon and never acknowledge the positive. Basically FUCK YOU and you know if I am talking to you.
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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2008, 05:31:24 PM »
What would Muhammad Ali do?
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2008, 05:38:34 PM »
Having been in the military I can honestly say it was a good experience.  The military is however filled with a large portion of idiots which I guess is true of anywhere.  I find that it is especially true with the military where the majority of enlisted personnel either have no education beyond high school. For many of them the military was there only option.  Quite honestly they also make good soldiers because they are quite susceptible to manipulation.     Also, I think the idea of the military has been romanticized to the point of being ridiculous.  Military life for most is like regular life, you get up and go to work then come home this is particularly boring if you work a technical job.
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2008, 05:41:04 PM »
Based on what I've seen from your posts about the Pineal glands and mushrooms, I'll have to politely disagree ;D

haha, figgs posted about DMT didn't he?  ;D

don't forget Israel, they can have all the nukes they want but God forbid Iran or Syria has them. ::)

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LOL!!!  Good catch!  It was a Freudian slip or something.
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2008, 05:45:26 PM »
haha, figgs posted about DMT didn't he?  ;D

Absolutely true!

LOL!!!  Good catch!  It was a Freudian slip or something.

 ::) The President of Iran is talking of wiping a country of the map and you think they should have nukes  ::)

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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2008, 05:47:53 PM »
::) The President of Iran is talking of wiping a country of the map and you think they should have nukes  ::)

1) He *may* have said that once a while ago - the translation is admittedly loose, and for all the speaking he's done, if he maybe only said it once, it's a little hard to say it's conclusive

2) Adhmedijahad is #3 in his country and doesn't even have the power to declare war if he wanted to; He's the Nancy Pelosi of Iran.

3) He's very unpopular in his own country and will probably lose re-election.

4) Iran has helped extremists - not Al Quida, but other groups - kill our troops.  For that, we should happily drop a few hundred missiles on them.  Not because some powerless guy might have said something once.

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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2008, 05:49:07 PM »
Based on what I've seen from your posts about the Pineal glands and mushrooms, I'll have to politely disagree ;D

Are you saying you'd be more prone to appreciate Figg's internet accolades if the penis gland had been an admitted area of expertise/diligent study, Kiwiol?  

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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2008, 05:49:23 PM »
Why would anyone choose military service over working for Musclephone.com?

Thanks Musclephone, for saving my kids' lives!!
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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2008, 05:50:11 PM »
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Ha ha ha!  Yeah Matt's a gay Canadian alright. 

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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2008, 05:50:54 PM »
::) The President of Iran is talking of wiping a country of the map and you think they should have nukes  ::)

It's been known for a while now that Matt C is far from being considered "intelligent" on here.  :-\



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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2008, 05:51:56 PM »
Having been in the military I can honestly say it was a good experience.  The military is however filled with a large portion of idiots which I guess is true of anywhere.  I find that it is especially true with the military where the majority of enlisted personnel either have no education beyond high school. For many of them the military was there only option.  Quite honestly they also make good soldiers because they are quite susceptible to manipulation.     Also, I think the idea of the military has been romanticized to the point of being ridiculous.  Military life for most is like regular life, you get up and go to work then come home this is particularly boring if you work a technical job.

Seems like the military will suck as long as there is no mandatory service.

Without mandatory service (like Israel) there is a big risk that only those without any chance of getting a real education will get into the military.

And the Harvard, MIT and Yale grads will stay away from doing their duty.

Which in turn leads to several things:

1. Less competence in the military

2. Less diversity

3. A bigger "us and them" mentality, where the soldiers in the field experiences that they don't have the support of their countrymen OR the politicians.


It was a whole different ballgame in WWII, or even in the Vietnam War, where the draft made sure people from all social classes were recruited. It meant that the soldiers usually felt that the people back home supported them even though they were against the war.

"Bring our boys home" was a frequent theme during the Vietnam war.

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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2008, 05:52:02 PM »
There is so much I want to say on this subject and to many of you who have already commented but I don't feel like wasting my breath on political topics with a bunch of morons. All I will say is serving your country in either the military or political arenas which directly better the said country is the greatest thing you can do to truly show your appreciation for where you come from and honor all those who came before you and made things the way they are. I don't see why so many people who honestly don't have all the facts seem to always jump on the negative side of the bandwagon and never acknowledge the positive. Basically FUCK YOU and you know if I am talking to you.

This assumes the official story is true.  If the US soldiers are in Iraq to actually do something good for Iraq or other people in the world, I could accept that.  That is an awfully big assumption though.

Having been in the military I can honestly say it was a good experience.  The military is however filled with a large portion of idiots which I guess is true of anywhere.  I find that it is especially true with the military where the majority of enlisted personnel either have no education beyond high school. For many of them the military was there only option.  Quite honestly they also make good soldiers because they are quite susceptible to manipulation.     Also, I think the idea of the military has been romanticized to the point of being ridiculous.  Military life for most is like regular life, you get up and go to work then come home this is particularly boring if you work a technical job.

Wow...

These mirror my views exactly.  I was in the Canadian army for years, and let me tell you - I worked with more morons than I could shake a stick at.  All manner of sub-90 IQ scum who did not have the intellectual processing power to question any objective set forth to them by the federal government.  As you said, by and large they were only in the military because they had no other option, and that is exactly why I quit.  I was way too good for a job like that.  Despite my numerous certificates of achievement I obtained in the military, I was never treated with respect by many of my superiors, and I had no clue why.  Looking back, the simplest explanation of this was purely jealously.  They were old, ugly, had a grade 10 education, and definitely not getting laid any time soon.  It actually offends me now that I actually tried to improve myself when that's all it was.  On one hand, I am very proud of my military achievements, but on the other hand, I resent giving so many good years to the Canadian Forces.  It's love hate I guess.
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Re: Serving Your Country?
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2008, 05:54:32 PM »
It's been known for a while now that Matt C is far from being considered "intelligent" on here.  :-\

Matt C looks at things from a "What is right/wrong?" perspective.  In that aspect, he is right about a lot of the things he says.

You and I, BerzerkFury, look at things from a "USA is #1 and kiss our ass if you don't like it" perspective.  We see things that he sees as shady, as necessary for staying #1.

It's just different goggles... he sees things in the moral sense for everyone, we see things in the utilitarian sense for the USA.  If we have to break a few arms on the other side of the world to keep things good here, you and I are all for it.  he is not.  So you shouldn't say he's not intelligent - he can verify most of what he says with facts - he just has different goggles on than we do.


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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2008, 05:59:54 PM »
It's been known for a while now that Matt C is far from being considered "intelligent" on here.  :-\

Yes, by you.

::) The President of Iran is talking of wiping a country of the map and you think they should have nukes  ::)

He was talking about Israel, so I have no problem with that.  ;D

PS - Special Ed also called me unintelligent.  Now I disagree with Ed on a few things (for example, Ed feels 9.11 was an attack by Arabs, while I think it is an inside job).  I do not go and call Ed stupid or what have you.  I think he is intelligent, but likely biased.  I would not be debating his intelligence, but I would look into whether or not he is indeed biased however.
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Re: Serving Your Country?
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2008, 06:00:26 PM »
USA #1?


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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2008, 06:01:23 PM »
Regarding Vietnam, certain Harvard and Yale graduates didn't have to serve. We call those people "Presidents".
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« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2008, 06:05:32 PM »
Matt C looks at things from a "What is right/wrong?" perspective.  In that aspect, he is right about a lot of the things he says.

You and I, BerzerkFury, look at things from a "USA is #1 and kiss our ass if you don't like it" perspective.  We see things that he sees as shady, as necessary for staying #1.

It's just different goggles... he sees things in the moral sense for everyone, we see things in the utilitarian sense for the USA.  If we have to break a few arms on the other side of the world to keep things good here, you and I are all for it.  he is not.  So you shouldn't say he's not intelligent - he can verify most of what he says with facts - he just has different goggles on than we do.



Hahaha, when you put it that way, I'm sadly inclined to agree.

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« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2008, 06:07:23 PM »
Hahaha, when you put it that way, I'm sadly inclined to agree.

It is what it is.   The way the world works.  Smile and have some ice cream :)

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« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2008, 06:08:05 PM »
You can feel it's alright for the United States to police the whole world if you want, but to suggest it's a stupid opinion to be against that is a little absurd.

Great example of the US government not minding their own business:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2644.html

Discuss.
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« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2008, 06:11:00 PM »
You can feel it's alright for the United States to police the whole world if you want, but to suggest it's a stupid opinion to be against that is a little absurd.

Great example of the US government not minding their own business:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2644.html

Discuss.

Well, build up an army and put us in our place. Oh wait.  :-X

Fact of the matter is that when you have far and away the most dominant military on the planet, you're allowed to do things like that without repercussion. It's one of the perks that comes with being the best. Sorry that you don't get to experience that out in Bumfucksville, Canada. But your anti-USA rants on the internet are definitely going to get you places.

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« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2008, 06:12:42 PM »
Well, build up an army and put us in our place. Oh wait.  :-X

Fact of the matter is that when you have far and away the most dominant military on the planet, you're allowed to do things like that without repercussion. It's one of the perks that comes with being the best. Sorry that you don't get to experience that out in Bumfucksville, Canada. But your anti-USA rants on the internet are definitely going to get you places.

Epic f'n truth right there.  Hell, I might print this out and hang it on my wall ;D