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Lower back exercises
« on: May 30, 2008, 02:47:23 AM »
I need some fresh exercises for lower back.

I have been deadlifting so far, but i need a little break from it.

I tried stiff legged deadlifts as well, but they tend to work my legs more than my back.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 03:17:02 AM »
back extensions.

if theyre good enough for dorian theyre good enough for you
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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 03:24:51 AM »
back extensions.

if theyre good enough for dorian theyre good enough for you

I know 2 versions of it. Which one do you prefer? Also, weighted or no weights?



i refer to the upper two.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 03:47:40 AM »
i do the first one pictured. 15 reps per set. if without weights is too easy hold a plate to your chest or dorian style which is a barbell over your shoulders but even him doesnt use that much weight

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 04:26:23 AM »
i do the first one pictured. 15 reps per set. if without weights is too easy hold a plate to your chest or dorian style which is a barbell over your shoulders but even him doesnt use that much weight



ok, thanks a lot. I'll try that.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 06:05:12 AM »
I know 2 versions of it. Which one do you prefer? Also, weighted or no weights?



i refer to the upper two.

the second is alot better. weighted.

also hyperextensions should be done year round. deadlifts is not enough for lower back.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 06:26:40 AM »
the second is alot better. weighted.

also hyperextensions should be done year round. deadlifts is not enough for lower back.

thanks.

the second one works my legs more than my back, or so it feels.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 06:28:57 AM »
thanks.

the second one works my legs more than my back, or so it feels.

it shouldnt if you do it right. and even if it feels like that its better than version 1.


(edit: some people use it as a hamstring movement..but it does work your lower back very well if done right.)

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 06:52:55 AM »
I need some fresh exercises for lower back.

I have been deadlifting so far, but i need a little break from it.

I tried stiff legged deadlifts as well, but they tend to work my legs more than my back.

Any suggestions?




Stiff leg barbell good mornings.
does your gym have the back machine for the lower back? I think it works great.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 09:10:57 AM »
SLDL, only going as far as the '45's allow, while keeping the back straight and flat. No rounding. Also GoodMornings, again keeping a flat back, only going a little below waist high. A flat back can affect the glutes and hams very well also. Can also do GM'ings while sitting crossway's on a bench with the main focus being the lower back it's self, no legs/hams. Touching the forehead to the bench each rep. Good Luck.

Side Bar: if anyone wants a better stretch on the calfs, hams, glutes and lower back than place the toes on a 2X4, BB plate, etc and stretch that way. Good warm-up for the area. Though I would not advise any extreme heavy weight with this version.
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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 12:59:49 PM »
the second is alot better. weighted.

also hyperextensions should be done year round. deadlifts is not enough for lower back.

if you really want to hit your lower back, try heavy, heavy BB rows.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 01:03:45 PM »
goodmornings, the heavier you go, the better it feels

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2008, 03:29:59 PM »
goodmornings, the heavier you go, the better it feels

depending on how you do 'em, they're either lower back or REALLY hard on the hips and hams.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2008, 05:04:37 PM »
if you really want to hit your lower back, try heavy, heavy BB rows.

i think hyperextensions works lower back in another way than many other back movements such as deadlifts, and thats why you should do them year around.

as for heavy barbell rows..i never really liked them. and using them for lower back, isnt the most efficient solution in my opinion. i dont think they are the best rowing exercise (for midback) either. so i wouldnt use em for lower back or midback. (=not use them at all)

instead id let deadlifts, hyperextensions, goodmornings, straight leg deadlifts take care of lower back.  as for rowing exercises i prefer rows that dont fatigue the lower back. thats just me...altho i know barbell rows have worked well for many..i just feel that they tire my lower back...and never let me focus on the rowing motion. i always try not to load lower back (heavily) more than 2 times per week. i want the lower back fresh for squats and deadlifts.

i notice in many training routines that people dont pay enough attention to accumulated lower back fatigue.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2008, 05:18:06 PM »
I like hyperextensions. Hold a weight plate, but hold it out at arms length, not holding it to your chest. Makes it harder to do. That and a variation of a deadlift (conventional, SLDL, etc) should be enough.
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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2008, 08:52:01 PM »
i think hyperextensions works lower back in another way than many other back movements such as deadlifts, and thats why you should do them year around.

as for heavy barbell rows..i never really liked them. and using them for lower back, isnt the most efficient solution in my opinion. i dont think they are the best rowing exercise (for midback) either. so i wouldnt use em for lower back or midback. (=not use them at all)

instead id let deadlifts, hyperextensions, goodmornings, straight leg deadlifts take care of lower back.  as for rowing exercises i prefer rows that dont fatigue the lower back. thats just me...altho i know barbell rows have worked well for many..i just feel that they tire my lower back...and never let me focus on the rowing motion. i always try not to load lower back (heavily) more than 2 times per week. i want the lower back fresh for squats and deadlifts.

i notice in many training routines that people dont pay enough attention to accumulated lower back fatigue.

hypers are great because they're the only exercise that lets you round the lower back for each rep (unless you've got a reverse hyper unit handy). however, to say you don't think rows are good at ALL is a little bizarre.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 05:09:04 AM »
hypers are great because they're the only exercise that lets you round the lower back for each rep (unless you've got a reverse hyper unit handy). however, to say you don't think rows are good at ALL is a little bizarre.

no i mean barbell rows. i do other kinds of rows that dont fatigue lower back as much. chest supported stuff for example.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 08:06:41 AM »
Hyperextensions, GM'ings and SLDL's allow (for the most part) a 90 degree range of motion for the lower back. Regular DL's require the lower back to act as a stablelizer betweem the lower and upper body.  The  legs (with help from  the hips and glutes) do the actual pushing off the floor . That being so, the lower back is required as a static/hold factor, more or less, when DL'ing. For all around back strength both the static holds (DL's) and extensions movements like Hyper's and GM'ings.shold be included in serious back training. The SLDL is different because the weight is held nearer the body (or should be) when preforming the lift, not out and away like any form of a extension.

BB rows can be an exceptional movement for muscle thickness and strength of the lower back muscles. When people begin to round the back in that lift, the odd's of injury can increase. Keep the lower back in a  static/fixed position (like the DL) for the most part. There are exceptions of course. Like doing  BB rows while coming up to an almost standing position. I know this is not by the PC training book, but it is an excellent mass builder for the back (lower and upper), traps and even arms. 

If doing Hyperextensions try holding a BB plate straight out and at arms length at the starting postion, rather than the usual holding behind the head method. Extensions are leverage exercises and having the weight out and away from the body increases the resistance even more. You will not need a lot of weight in this version.

If your training the lower back strongly, than the ab's should be trained just as strongly. Does not mean higher rep ab work, but reps between 8-15 with a heavier weights included.  Two or three sets should take very good care of the upper and lower abs. As a short range muscle there are a very powerfull group. As most short range muscles are. Good Luck.
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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 08:33:52 AM »
no i mean barbell rows. i do other kinds of rows that dont fatigue lower back as much. chest supported stuff for example.

what's odd is that, while i disagree in principle, i agree in practice. because my training has so many squat and deadlift variants, using rows that tax the lower back tends to be overkill (pendlay are an exception). DB rows are currently a favorite.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 02:49:01 AM »
goodmornings, the heavier you go, the better it feels

Are you nuts? Thats a nice way to damage your lower back

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2008, 05:08:33 AM »
Are you nuts? Thats a nice way to damage your lower back

Bullshit, goodmornings are perfectly safe if you do them correctly.

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2008, 05:12:04 AM »
Bullshit, goodmornings are perfectly safe if you do them correctly.

Agreed

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Re: Lower back exercises
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2008, 07:06:37 AM »
Are you nuts? Thats a nice way to damage your lower back
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