Congratulations to Chris Mason!

[chris_mason]

Protein consumption is overplayed, but you do need a high protein intake if you want to gain muscle and strength, and you certainly need a decent intake of protein to retain that muscle and strength.

Supplements are overplayed though. It's just as good to get it from real food than some powdered shit. I made my best gains from eating good food, and only using protein powder post-workout.

I agree that protein supplementation is overplayed by the industry in general.  Heck, I have even gone so far as to tell people with really limited budgets to skip the protein and just go with our product RESULTS (another thread on another board) because of the fact RESULTS is a true ergogen. 

[Camel Jockey]

I agree that protein supplementation is overplayed by the industry in general.  Heck, I have even gone so far as to tell people with really limited budgets to skip the protein and just go with our product RESULTS (another thread on another board) because of the fact RESULTS is a true ergogen. 

Atleast you are honest, Chris. And congrats on the Ment's Health list. 

It's the larger companies that overplay supplements. They pretty much prey on the naive who are just getting into fitness, and they do a pretty good job of it too.

[Camel Jockey]

our ancestors(neandrathals) had bmr's of around 10k to 12k cals per day.. and their diets were 90 % + protein (meat)....


our digestive system and intestines are set up specifically for a protein based diet.. 

They were not our ancestors. Modern man existed along side with the Neanderhals.

But you are right about early man eating tons of protein. It made us what we are today.

[MisterMagoo]

Can you guys avoid talking about supplements here as if they actually work.

Most everyone here knows that they are snake oil, though it seems that some have gotten involved in snake oil sales.  Why don't you snake oil salesman go push your wares on BBing.com or other sites populated by newbs.

if you want to argue whether or not AtLarge's stuff works, thewickedtruth and i would be happy to disagree with your assertion.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

protein doesnt work??

fuck why the hell am i eating all this steak and chicken then??

goddamnit,, im such a FOOL 

you didnt know that protein in steak and chicken was snake oil???  where you been under a rock?  Its all about the carrots these days....

[thewickedtruth]

if you want to argue whether or not AtLarge's stuff works, thewickedtruth and i would be happy to disagree with your assertion.

no joke.. it would be hard for me to sit and choose just one of his products if I had only one choice to go with. Maximus is amazing.. but results has been blowing everyone away that has taken it. I think I'll be sticking with ALN for awhile. 

[slummin]

Mason must be sending lots of free cases of crap out to these morons to get this kind of bullchit thread going 

Nice try though.

[onlyme]

Chris good job.  Just keep away from using this guy as your poster boy

[Matt C]

Mason must be sending lots of free cases of crap out to these morons to get this kind of bullchit thread going 

Nice try though.

I quit using supplements between 2004-2007 based on what I read on the boards.  I was also pretty vocal on my website about avoiding supplements and opting for whole foods instead.  While I will still agree that whole foods and a proper diet cannot be replaced my supplements, I still think they definitely have their merit.  I've been using them quite a bit over the past year and I swear by certain supplements (creatine and whey protein, but a few others too).

And I didn't get anything for free for Chris although he offered me some last year.  I was far too busy with other things to actually review them adequately.  Now I am ready to and willing to pay for them which I think will make my reviews a little less biased.  I admit, when I get everything for free it is a lot easier for me to write a positive review.  If I had to buy everything, I might be a little more cognizant of the cost effectiveness of each supplement and emphasize that a little more in my reviews.

[shiftedShapes]

if you want to argue whether or not AtLarge's stuff works, thewickedtruth and i would be happy to disagree with your assertion.

No thanks, I know that you are a lost cause, I only addressed candidate because he usually seems smart and I was dismayed to see that he had been bamboozled by supplement hucksters.

[chaos]

No thanks, I know that you are a lost cause, I only addressed candidate because he usually seems smart and I was dismayed to see that he had been bamboozled by supplement hucksters.

Haven't you been following candidilos entrance into becoming a doped up BBer? He's been on the kick for awhile now, already shooting up in the ass.

[candidizzle]

No thanks, I know that you are a lost cause, I only addressed candidate because he usually seems smart and I was dismayed to see that he had been bamboozled by supplement hucksters.

my man,  i know you are one of the guys who dreads the idea of becoming soft .. so you think you cantt eat anything and you live by this mantra of "calorie is a calorie""... follow what i say and youll be liberated from you prison .. you will be able to eat to your hearts content and you will only look bigger harder and leaner by doing so..

follow me young padawan

for i know thee way ! 

[Matt C]

No thanks, I know that you are a lost cause, I only addressed candidate because he usually seems smart and I was dismayed to see that he had been bamboozled by supplement hucksters.

Have you ever tried supplements or are you just saying they don't work based on what board members tell you?  From my experience, comments on boards are almost as bad as the ridiculous claims made by the supplement companies themselves.

[thewickedtruth]

Have you ever tried supplements or are you just saying they don't work based on what board members tell you?  From my experience, comments on boards are almost as bad as the ridiculous claims made by the supplement companies themselves.

this is why i like Matt C right here.. dude's got a clear head on those coming along shoulders of his! 

[shiftedShapes]

Have you ever tried supplements or are you just saying they don't work based on what board members tell you?  From my experience, comments on boards are almost as bad as the ridiculous claims made by the supplement companies themselves.

I used a wide array of supps for many years free of charge (thanks to GNC's generous return policies). 

[shiftedShapes]

Haven't you been following candidilos entrance into becoming a doped up BBer? He's been on the kick for awhile now, already shooting up in the ass.

I hadn't noticed, but I can see now he is out of it.

[kmhphoto]

I admit, when I get everything for free it is a lot easier for me to write a positive review.  If I had to buy everything, I might be a little more cognizant of the cost effectiveness of each supplement and emphasize that a little more in my reviews.

Well that make your reviews as pointless as your "instructional training videos".

[Matt C]

Well that make your reviews as pointless as your "instructional training videos".

Not really.  It is an obvious conflict of interest, but if the readers are made aware of this, they can take it for what that's worth.  I always encourage them to base their purchases (if they even choose to make any) on the totality of currently available information.  My reviews are a part of that, but not the whole picture.  In general, I would rather just speak about the basic qualities of the supplement and then attempt to teach my readership about the importance of critical thinking in terms of consumption, not just in the supplement industry but anywhere in life.  Hopefully they learn how to make decisions a little better if they follow my advice.

[Van_Bilderass]

Results = overpriced creatine/sugar drink.

Deja Vu: "HMB.... feels like Deca"

[medz zeppelin]

Damn right.

   I am actually most interested in his MAXIMUS:

is this slang for penis?

[emn1964]

Well that make your reviews as pointless as your "instructional training videos".

hahahahahaha...bah zing!

[ripitupbaby]

Thanks to Chris for the sample bottle of the fat burner NITOR. 

I tried it out and I like it...I'll probably use it for part of my contest prep this year. 

[Matt C]

Nitrean, Maximus and Opticen all look very interesting to me.  Maximus in particular.  In all probability I will be picking up the following:

http://www.atlargenutrition.com/nutrition_detail.php?products_id=9

I think that will be my next stack to review after I am done with the Higher Power stack.