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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2008, 05:18:49 AM »
He's got plenty of time, I don't bdoubt that he can achieve great conditioning. The concern would be to know if he can do it without losing too much fullness. He doesn't look that big for an off-season Olympia pretender.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2008, 06:49:48 AM »
plenty of time
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2008, 07:51:37 AM »
Quote from: GigantorX on July 22, 2008, 07:55:39 PM
He will be sliced, no doubt about it 240 and wes. The problem is that he has huge arms, narrow chest and an overall narrow look to him. His gigantic arms really overpower his physique. He will look narrow and maybe even a bit on the small side next to Wolf, Cutler and Kamali.

Kamali?  Seriously?  In the same sentence as Phil, Cutler, and Wolf?  Wow.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2008, 10:17:28 AM »
he isn't even fat in the first place, there is a lot of water bloat  but not much fat

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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2008, 10:20:43 AM »
Its a good question. Jay did look way leaner in the recent pics posted of him

Having said that, Phil, I am sure, knows what he is doing. Personally I think Jay's approach is the way to go, but I am sure Phil will also come in looking pretty good.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2008, 11:15:47 AM »
Quote from: gib on July 23, 2008, 10:20:43 AM
Its a good question. Jay did look way leaner in the recent pics posted of him

Having said that, Phil, I am sure, knows what he is doing. Personally I think Jay's approach is the way to go, but I am sure Phil will also come in looking pretty good.

jay and wolf both looked leaner.

Does anyone have the recent dexter guest pose pic?  I wonder if he was leaner too.

Most successful guys know the key is to peak 2 weeks early and coast in.  Phil looked diced, 5 weeks out from the ironman.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2008, 02:31:30 PM »
he looks bloated and small. compare him to the current size of cutler or wolf... they are twice as big as lil heath and tighter.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2008, 02:56:02 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on July 22, 2008, 05:38:24 PM
Phil is a pro and is always known for his excellent conditioning.  However Wolf and Cutler have both looked way sharper in recent pics.  Can Heath get in shape in time?




"Lunch" Trey Brewer was about twice as fat and lost his weight in less time.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2008, 03:26:42 PM »
he will be fine, once he changes esters, drops a few things and cuts the gh  ;) he needs to time his run, certainly cant afford to overdiet in this line up, if hes flat, he looks narrow, top 5 if he nails it, top 3 if hes improved since the ironman, He is potentially a top 3 guy with his genetics even with being narrow, just depends how much hes improved.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2008, 03:40:15 PM »
Phil is going to kick ass at the Olympia, he always dials in.  No worries.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2008, 03:49:06 PM »
Quote from: honest on July 23, 2008, 03:26:42 PM
he will be fine, once he changes esters, drops a few things and cuts the gh  ;) he needs to time his run, certainly cant afford to overdiet in this line up, if hes flat, he looks narrow, top 5 if he nails it, top 3 if hes improved since the ironman, He is potentially a top 3 guy with his genetics even with being narrow, just depends how much hes improved.
explain why he would do that
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2008, 04:43:54 PM »
Quote from: candidizzle on July 23, 2008, 03:49:06 PM
explain why he would do that

gh cause water bloat
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2008, 04:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Stavios on July 23, 2008, 04:43:54 PM
gh cause water bloat
so competitors always drop it out? i never heard of that before
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
I have a feeling Jay is going to make the same mistake he did when he tried to play the conditioning game at the Arnold a few years back when he should have lost to Cormier.  His conditioning was shitty at the O and he is going to overcompensate and look flat.

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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2008, 05:00:43 PM »
Quote from: candidizzle on July 23, 2008, 04:57:45 PM
so competitors always drop it out? i never heard of that before

no most run it until the show but I know quite a few competitors who drop it 2 weeks out
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2008, 05:02:13 PM »
Quote from: Stavios on July 23, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
no most run it until the show but I know quite a few competitors who drop it 2 weeks out
i would think a strong diuretic might take care of it, no ?
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2008, 05:23:37 PM »
Quote from: Stavios on July 23, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
no most run it until the show but I know quite a few competitors who drop it 2 weeks out


eeeenteresting
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2008, 05:27:25 PM »
Does it matter how a guy looks  11 wks before?   Whats the title of this site??? GETBIG!!!!!!   Phil is!!!
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2008, 06:10:00 PM »
Phil is right on target.  Looking damn good!
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2008, 06:14:07 PM »
Phil "soft serve" Heath lookin good.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2008, 06:29:28 PM »
Quote from: candidizzle on July 23, 2008, 04:57:45 PM
so competitors always drop it out? i never heard of that before
That's because you are not a "Pro" Dizzle.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2008, 07:50:22 PM »
A lot drop it, some cut down, and some stay with it
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2008, 09:07:52 PM »
Most drop it 4 weeks out to help the skin thin right out, some as late as two,  Phil looks to have  some serious water bloat, i would bet hes using Jins, he will be fine as long as he knows what hes doing believe me a lot of top guys have missed their peak by not understanding how their body reacts with hgh. Dorian Yates made an art form of dropping it at the right time, his skin up close contest day was something else, made everyone else look smooth.
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2008, 11:04:54 PM »
Will be full but narrow. Top 3 but no cigar
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Re: Is Phil Heath too soft, for being 10 weeks out?
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2008, 11:16:44 PM »
Quote from: Trev on July 23, 2008, 05:07:37 AM
Drug bloat. He'll dial in at get 4th
no need to dial it in he is a weider boy he'll get 4th no matter what and wolf gets 3rd this sets the stage for the battle between wolf and heath for later years while dexter retires.........
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