Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'

[Decker]

Dude.  Do you read your own posts?  Here you are categorizing all McCain voters:


Here you say anyone who votes for McCain is putting party ahead of country:


Now what assumption did I made what exactly did I twist? 

You add democrats or independents to the mix.  If one votes republican, then for the election, that person is a republican.

McCain is a Bush third term.  Bush is a failure as president.  Anyone voting for Big Mac is voting for more failure.  Anyone voting for more failure is willfully hurting this country.  Why would anyone hurt the country they live in on purpose?  Sounds pretty damn stupid to me.

[240 is Back]

lol... i've never voted dem in my life, and I don't plan to, ever.

i just am not thrilled with the republican option at the moment.

[tu_holmes]

You add democrats or independents to the mix.  If one votes republican, then for the election, that person is a republican.

McCain is a Bush third term.  Bush is a failure as president.  Anyone voting for Big Mac is voting for more failure.  Anyone voting for more failure is willfully hurting this country.  Why would anyone hurt the country they live in on purpose?  Sounds pretty damn stupid to me.

That's a difficult thing to say.

Let me ask you these questions...

What is the most important issue to you at the moment?

What can the President directly do to fix that issue?

[Benny B]

lol... i've never voted dem in my life, and I don't plan to, ever.

stupid, stupid man
you have lost your sense of open-mindedness at such a young age

[Dos Equis]

You add democrats or independents to the mix.  If one votes republican, then for the election, that person is a republican.

McCain is a Bush third term.  Bush is a failure as president.  Anyone voting for Big Mac is voting for more failure.  Anyone voting for more failure is willfully hurting this country.  Why would anyone hurt the country they live in on purpose?  Sounds pretty damn stupid to me.

Now that's a new one.  Anyone who votes for a Republican is a Republican.  Certainly a minority opinion.  

You can’t really fault me for taking your words at face value, instead of the unique interpretation you have of voters.  

Why would anyone vote for a candidate who represents more than 40 years of failure?  The Democrats had control of Congress for decades and did not do so hot.  Obama represents the most liberal wing of the old guard.  He's not going to "change" anything.  Democrats might as well run Ted Kennedy.  What Obama brings to the table is the same old liberal policies that will drive us deeper into debt and help divide the country through class warfare.  

[tu_holmes]

Now that's a new one.  Anyone who votes for a Republican is a Republican.  Certainly a minority opinion.  

You can’t really fault me for taking your words at face value, instead of the unique interpretation you have of voters.  

Why would anyone vote for a candidate who represents more than 40 years of failure?  The Democrats had control of Congress for decades and did not do so hot.  Obama represents the most liberal wing of the old guard.  He's not going to "change" anything.  Democrats might as well run Ted Kennedy.  What Obama brings to the table is the same old liberal policies that will drive us deeper into debt and help divide the country through class warfare.  

Fair enough to believe that, but what is McCain doing that's any different?

Do you not see that the Republican party is also running us deeper in debt in government programs, they're just not taxing anyone to pay for them.

[Decker]

Now that's a new one.  Anyone who votes for a Republican is a Republican....

You're right.  Anyone voting republican for an election is really a democrat or an independent.

How foolish of me to think that a person voting R might be an R.

Why would anyone vote for a candidate who represents more than 40 years of failure?  The Democrats had control of Congress for decades and did not do so hot.  Obama represents the most liberal wing of the old guard.  He's not going to "change" anything.  Democrats might as well run Ted Kennedy.  What Obama brings to the table is the same old liberal policies that will drive us deeper into debt and help divide the country through class warfare.  

According to his platform, you remember issues right?, Obama offers up some big ideas CHANGE--out of Iraq, UHC, targeted tax cuts etc.  The democrats have had congress for about 2 years.  You referece 40 years of failure--can you quantify that?  Tell me, Are you still pissed about the teapot dome scandal as well?

McCain offers more Bush....hahahaha and not just Palin.

Remember Beach Bum, it was solid liberal policies that saved this country back in FDR's time.  It was only after big business truly corrupted the process did our government become a pale image of its former glory.  The biggest apostatic failures of course were Reagan and Bush.

[Decker]

That's a difficult thing to say.

Let me ask you these questions...

What is the most important issue to you at the moment?

What can the President directly do to fix that issue?

Iraq and energy.

The pres as commander in chief could decide not to initiate any more foriegn wars.  The pres could wrap up the Iraq disaster instead of prolonging it.

Instead of holding secret meetings with Big Energy to set the country's energy policy, the pres. could lead the country into the arena of alternative fuels.

I'll try to answer more thoroughly later.  The inlaws are coming over right now,.

[Dos Equis]

Fair enough to believe that, but what is McCain doing that's any different?

Do you not see that the Republican party is also running us deeper in debt in government programs, they're just not taxing anyone to pay for them.

All you have to do is look at McCain's history.  He doesn't toe the party line.  He reportedly almost left the Republican party several years back.  He's not a Bush clone. 

Both parties have been irresponsible when it comes to government spending.

[tu_holmes]

All you have to do is look at McCain's history.  He doesn't toe the party line.  He reportedly almost left the Republican party several years back.  He's not a Bush clone. 

Both parties have been irresponsible when it comes to government spending.

Since 2000, I'd wager he has voted a lot more FOR the party than against it... The 2000 McCain I really liked... The 2K8 version, not so much.

What has he done LATELY, that is against the grain.

He's going to the neo-con base just like Bush did... Why do you think he would be different?

[MCWAY]

'Lipstick on a pig' is a common thing to say when refering to something windowdressed. Get it right, Gi-Joe.

We know that. It’s all about timing. Obama made that statement, just days after Palin’s instantly-popularized joke about LIPSTICK being the difference between hockey mom and pitbulls.

Add to that, the reaction of Obama’s audience to his statement and it’s not that hard to suspect that, whether Obama intended to do so or not, such a statement was aimed at the governor from Alaska.

[tu_holmes]

We know that. It’s all about timing. Obama made that statement, just days after Palin’s instantly-popularized joke about LIPSTICK being the difference between hockey mom and pitbulls.

Add to that, the reaction of Obama’s audience to his statement and it’s not that hard to suspect that, whether Obama intended to do so or not, such a statement was aimed at the governor from Alaska.

As Obama stated... EVEN IF that was the case... (which it wasn't).

She was the lipstick, not the pig.

[MCWAY]

As Obama stated... EVEN IF that was the case... (which it wasn't).

She was the lipstick, not the pig.

The point, of course, is that the statement was ill-timed at best, and just plain DUMB, at worst.

[tu_holmes]

The point, of course, is that the statement was ill-timed at best, and just plain DUMB, at worst.

I don't see why anyone would want to change their general speech pattern just because it's a certain week.

[Dos Equis]

Since 2000, I'd wager he has voted a lot more FOR the party than against it... The 2000 McCain I really liked... The 2K8 version, not so much.

What has he done LATELY, that is against the grain.

He's going to the neo-con base just like Bush did... Why do you think he would be different?

I bet he always voted with Republicans more often than not.  That isn't saying much. 

He sounds okay to me.  Based on his history, I think he will try and do the right thing, whether the "right thing" is consistent with his party or not.  He's not a puppet. 

He's also far more experience than Obama and will make a much better Commander in Chief than Obama.