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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2008, 12:19:49 PM »
Brock has better cardio than most light weights.
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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2008, 12:38:37 PM »
The two big guys you talk about didn't have Brocks wrestling strength. Neither one of those guys are wrestlers nor know how to control position. Brock is an excellent wrestler, look at his record.(Not talking WWE ;D) Gonzaga and Sylvia's wrestling skill compared to brock's is like Brocks JJ against Nogs.

I think that Brock's striking will be decent this time around. I don't think his striking is that bad, shit it's not the best, but with size 4xl gloves anytime he hits you or grazes you that shit going to do a small amount of damage. I don't know if Randy is going to be able to choke out brock? Heel hook is what I would expect, I can imagine Brock picking randy up if he were to armbar, dude is a fucking mule and 230 aint shit to brock IMHO...

Wrestling will bring a man down, but how are you going to finish a guy with wrestling? Look at the Heath Herring fight. He landed one big punch and put Herring in la la land (even admitted by Herring) Then all Brock did was lay on Herring the rest of the fight. Now it was a win, but Randy would never fall for that or allow that. Let's put it this way....not one of the current top UFC contenders or UFC champions is one dimensional like Brock. Bottom line in MMA...you can't skip steps to the belt. There have been many that have tried...but it all plays out in the end.

Another thing to remember, Doesn't really matter how much Brock has improved, can he bring it on fight night? So far all we have seen is one hard punch and some wrestling. Let's not mention how he got caught by Mir. Yes Frank Mir...the same one who was shut out by Brandon Vera. Who is not exactly Couture. I am also sure that Randy can slam a 280-300 pound man. There is more behind it than just strength.

But either way, we can all pick our favorites, nobody can deny it is an interesting match up ;D


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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2008, 02:50:23 PM »
Wrestling will bring a man down, but how are you going to finish a guy with wrestling? Look at the Heath Herring fight. He landed one big punch and put Herring in la la land (even admitted by Herring) Then all Brock did was lay on Herring the rest of the fight. Now it was a win, but Randy would never fall for that or allow that. Let's put it this way....not one of the current top UFC contenders or UFC champions is one dimensional like Brock. Bottom line in MMA...you can't skip steps to the belt. There have been many that have tried...but it all plays out in the end.

Another thing to remember, Doesn't really matter how much Brock has improved, can he bring it on fight night? So far all we have seen is one hard punch and some wrestling. Let's not mention how he got caught by Mir. Yes Frank Mir...the same one who was shut out by Brandon Vera. Who is not exactly Couture. I am also sure that Randy can slam a 280-300 pound man. There is more behind it than just strength.

But either way, we can all pick our favorites, nobody can deny it is an interesting match up ;D




One thing we both agree on is that this will be a  fucking bad ass fight.

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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2008, 07:02:17 PM »
This is how i see it: during the first round Brock is pushing the pace, Randy is able to hold him off. Nothing big happens.
Second round: Randy gets more and more tired. Brock ends the fight by ground and pound halfway through.
I agree with the first round.  But the second is where Brock starts to gas.  Third is where Brock gets caught.

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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2008, 07:08:57 PM »
I agree with the first round.  But the second is where Brock starts to gas.  Third is where Brock gets caught.
You're kidding right? Brock has the conditioning to go all five rounds at full speed.
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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2008, 07:42:54 PM »
The winner is Dana White.  PPV profits for this event will exceed 40x the total payroll for all the fighters and overhead for the venue.


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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2008, 11:10:09 AM »
You're kidding right? Brock has the conditioning to go all five rounds at full speed.

When has Brock ever shown us he can go 5 rounds? I must have missed that fight?? It really all talk at this point. We saw him lay on Herring for three rounds though.
All smoke and mirrors to sell a mega-fight. Like I said earlier, Brock is the UFC's version of Kimbo. Albeit he is much more talented than Kimbo.

Does everyone forget....this is Brock's fourth MMA fight. He might be a freak, but this is not a strongman competition.

I like Brock and the popularity that he brings, but anyone that thinks he has more than a lucky chance, truly does not understand the sport.
He couldn't finish Herring after he landed his "4XL" gloves on him in the beginning of the first round!!

Bottom line...What MMA skills has Brock shown us? All I have ever seen him do is throw a couple of punches and shoot on people. Where is everyone getting that Brock is on Couture's level?

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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2008, 05:40:15 PM »
Randy's jitz is top notch right now.  He had Vinicius Magalhaes join Xtreme Couture and he along with Jacare have been tightening up Randy's ground game.  Vinicius actually has said he's impressed with Randy's Jitz and that he's on a black belt level. Also Brett Rogers reportedly was giving Brock fits in training and even knocked him out twice (one of the times he was out cold), to the point to where Brett was scolded by Brocks handlers and eventually left Minnesota Mixed Martial Arts academy on bad terms.  Randy will be a game opponent, we won't see him get steamrolled that's for sure.

What's your source on the Brett/Brock thing?

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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2008, 05:52:50 PM »
Brock has better cardio than most light weights.

BSB said that you were on that bridge in Minnesota that collapsed and you died. Stupid me I believed him.  Well, glad you aren't dead.
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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2008, 07:06:22 PM »
When has Brock ever shown us he can go 5 rounds? I must have missed that fight?? It really all talk at this point. We saw him lay on Herring for three rounds though.
All smoke and mirrors to sell a mega-fight. Like I said earlier, Brock is the UFC's version of Kimbo. Albeit he is much more talented than Kimbo.

Does everyone forget....this is Brock's fourth MMA fight. He might be a freak, but this is not a strongman competition.

I like Brock and the popularity that he brings, but anyone that thinks he has more than a lucky chance, truly does not understand the sport.
He couldn't finish Herring after he landed his "4XL" gloves on him in the beginning of the first round!!

Bottom line...What MMA skills has Brock shown us? All I have ever seen him do is throw a couple of punches and shoot on people. Where is everyone getting that Brock is on Couture's level?
Whatever happened during the Herring fight, at the end Brock looked fresh and ready for more.

Nobody is saying he is on Coutures level, however he is a straightforward beast and I think it may be too much for Randy to overcome. :)
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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2008, 01:01:45 PM »
Whatever happened during the Herring fight, at the end Brock looked fresh and ready for more.

Nobody is saying he is on Coutures level, however he is a straightforward beast and I think it may be too much for Randy to overcome. :)

In the Herring fight he went just three rounds, but I agree, I am sure that Brock has the cardio, just have not seen him pushed yet ;)

Once again, RAW power and being a beast is just not enough in this level of MMA. There is nobody currently or recently in the UFC that wins with just power and strength. If you can think of someone, let me know.

Don't be fooled by the Brock's "huge power" claims. Just a way for the UFC to fool the noobs.

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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2008, 01:04:42 PM »
In the Herring fight he went just three rounds, but I agree, I am sure that Brock has the cardio, just have not seen him pushed yet ;)

Once again, RAW power and being a beast is just not enough in this level of MMA. There is nobody currently or recently in the UFC that wins with just power and strength. If you can think of someone, let me know.

Don't be fooled by the Brock's "huge power" claims. Just a way for the UFC to fool the noobs.



How can you not credit Brocks wrestling? You never give credit to the man's college wrestling history. It's not like the guy was only a WWF wrestler.

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Re: How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2008, 01:20:32 PM »

How can you not credit Brocks wrestling? You never give credit to the man's college wrestling history. It's not like the guy was only a WWF wrestler.

I did give him credit for his wrestling :)  Tell me how his wrestling is going to finish the fight? Remember, being on the ground is most likely what Randy wants. Is his wrestling going to help with his submission defense? Or what if Randy stuffs his take downs. I know it may seem impossible, but ever see someone get caught with a knee while shooting on someone. The best wrestling in the world is just not enough these days.

Brock is limited in his MMA abilities. This is what will hurt him. Just give me one example of someone that is limited like Brock, and is a champion or in the runnning? Please...and I will shut up ;D

By the way....remember Houston Alexander? Remember the hype? Same story. He was exposed numerous times.