How bad will Randy Couture get owned against Brock Lesnar?

[ASJChaotic]

Randy will be destroyed!   

[Bluto]

cant wait for that fight!

[bigmc]

Randy always finds a way

unless his age has finally caught up with him

[Hedgehog]

I don't know the line on this one.
But if I can get 2.10 or better I'm gonna put some money on Randy.

I basically see him a the slight favorite actually for a couple of reasons:
He's one of the smartest fighters ever, can control a fight, control the tempo.
His stamina is legendary.
Brock is much bigger, will gas much quicker because of it.
I see brock coming out in the first round, releasing hell on Randy. If he can weather those first 90 seconds, and I think he can, he'll gradually take over the fight and stop Brock in the end of the 3rd. 
 

[ASJChaotic]

I don't know the line on this one.
But if I can get 2.10 or better I'm gonna put some money on Randy.

I basically see him a the slight favorite actually for a couple of reasons:
He's one of the smartest fighters ever, can control a fight, control the tempo.
His stamina is legendary.
Brock is much bigger, will gas much quicker because of it.
I see brock coming out in the first round, releasing hell on Randy. If he can weather those first 90 seconds, and I think he can, he'll gradually take over the fight and stop Brock in the end of the 3rd. 
 

the only people who will beat brock are very good Jiu Jitsu guys
stand up guys and wrestlers.......forget it, they will get owned

[*ChuteBoxe*]

Randy's jitz is top notch right now.  He had Vinicius Magalhaes join Xtreme Couture and he along with Jacare have been tightening up Randy's ground game.  Vinicius actually has said he's impressed with Randy's Jitz and that he's on a black belt level. Also Brett Rogers reportedly was giving Brock fits in training and even knocked him out twice (one of the times he was out cold), to the point to where Brett was scolded by Brocks handlers and eventually left Minnesota Mixed Martial Arts academy on bad terms.  Randy will be a game opponent, we won't see him get steamrolled that's for sure.

[Bluto]

I don't know the line on this one.
But if I can get 2.10 or better I'm gonna put some money on Randy.

I basically see him a the slight favorite actually for a couple of reasons:
He's one of the smartest fighters ever, can control a fight, control the tempo.
His stamina is legendary.
Brock is much bigger, will gas much quicker because of it.
I see brock coming out in the first round, releasing hell on Randy. If he can weather those first 90 seconds, and I think he can, he'll gradually take over the fight and stop Brock in the end of the 3rd. 
 

betting companies have brock as the favorite

[Hedgehog]

Randy may have improved his JJ, but he's still a wrestler, and I think his chance is to outlast Brock, something I obviously think he will be able to do.

I could be wrong of course. But Randy has tons of experience and seems to be able to use it well.     

[chaos]

Randy may have improved his JJ, but he's still a wrestler, and I think his chance is to outlast Brock, something I obviously think he will be able to do.

I could be wrong of course. But Randy has tons of experience and seems to be able to use it well.     

Brocks last fight he went three rounds and looked like he could do three more, don't underestimate his conditioning.

[ASJChaotic]

Brocks last fight he went three rounds and looked like he could do three more, don't underestimate his conditioning.

the dude had to have 1 hour long pro wrestling matches at one time, tough as nails
if anybody else 300 pounds of muscle landed on their head like this, they'd be dead

 

[Mrdibbs]

The power rangers beat that in realism

[SinCitysmallGUY]

Brock is a beast, the only big thing Randy has him on is Experience and skill in the cage. Brock is bigger, stronger, I wanna see who is quicker, a better wrestler I think, so what does that leave Randy with.

The only way I see Randy winning is if he can out last Brock's furry and grind something out in the late rounds. The only problem with this is I think Brock will be able to keep up even in the late rounds. The dude is a monster HW with stamina and I am sure he won't be coming in with shitty cardio for a chance at that belt. I just don't see Randy being in a good position other then if Brock makes a big dumb mistake and gets subbed.. WE SHALL SEE?

[chaos]

Brock is a beast, the only big thing Randy has him on is Experience and skill in the cage. Brock is bigger, stronger, I wanna see who is quicker, a better wrestler I think, so what does that leave Randy with.

The only way I see Randy winning is if he can out last Brock's furry and grind something out in the late rounds. The only problem with this is I think Brock will be able to keep up even in the late rounds. The dude is a monster HW with stamina and I am sure he won't be coming in with shitty cardio for a chance at that belt. I just don't see Randy being in a good position other then if Brock makes a big dumb mistake and gets subbed.. WE SHALL SEE?

Exactly, he made a mistake in the Mir fight and got subbed, but until that point he beat the shit out of Mir, even Mir said so after the fight "I survived that guy"

[IronFan]

...,so what does that leave Randy with.

Randy has it all over Brock with intelligence.

Brock gets caught by Mir after all that prep, gets ko'd twice by his sparring partner...

Randy by submission.

[rccs]

Brock wins in the first round...

[Geo]

I'm thinking a lot of people are underestimating lesnars hand speed when it's standing up and I can't see Couture getting lesnar off his feet too easily...


I'm still pretty conflicted when I try to visualize how this one is gonna play out..

[Big Worm]

the dude had to have 1 hour long pro wrestling matches at one time, tough as nails
if anybody else 300 pounds of muscle landed on their head like this, they'd be dead

 

That was a long time ago ..Also rehearsed ...It's different when someone is trying to choke the life out of you ,also trying to kill you with every kick and punch he throws..Randy will do well.. He's a skilled thinking fighter..Even when in trouble ..
  Brock on the other hand ,is a brute..he has a game plan..Once taken out of his groove ..will he be able to wing it ?

[Thin Lizzy]

Brock is a beast, the only big thing Randy has him on is Experience and skill in the cage. Brock is bigger, stronger, I wanna see who is quicker, a better wrestler I think, so what does that leave Randy with.

The only way I see Randy winning is if he can out last Brock's furry and grind something out in the late rounds. The only problem with this is I think Brock will be able to keep up even in the late rounds. The dude is a monster HW with stamina and I am sure he won't be coming in with shitty cardio for a chance at that belt. I just don't see Randy being in a good position other then if Brock makes a big dumb mistake and gets subbed.. WE SHALL SEE?

I think Randy's best shot is to sink in a guillotine, but, Brock has been training with bjj world champ Rodrigo "Comprido" Mederios. So, I'm guessing they're working a lot of sub escapes. The thing about Brock is that he seems willing to learn.

[TechnoViking]

the dude had to have 1 hour long pro wrestling matches at one time, tough as nails
if anybody else 300 pounds of muscle landed on their head like this, they'd be dead

 

Isn't this you and your buddies

[WeightPSHR]

Brock is a beast, the only big thing Randy has him on is Experience and skill in the cage. Brock is bigger, stronger, I wanna see who is quicker, a better wrestler I think, so what does that leave Randy with.

The only way I see Randy winning is if he can out last Brock's furry and grind something out in the late rounds. The only problem with this is I think Brock will be able to keep up even in the late rounds. The dude is a monster HW with stamina and I am sure he won't be coming in with shitty cardio for a chance at that belt. I just don't see Randy being in a good position other then if Brock makes a big dumb mistake and gets subbed.. WE SHALL SEE?

I can't believe that people actually think Brock has a chance. Lesnar is a freak, and someday will rule the division, I agree with that. But come on...this will be his third fight. This is MMA, there is strategy,technique,and most importantly, a mental confidence and toughness that only comes with experience.

Lesnar is pulling the same shots as Kimbo in a way. He has mystique about him, that is why he is where he is. He puts asses in the seats. And more power to him for that. But don't be fooled....

What happens when Randy beats his face in? Has he ever been cut? had his nosed smashed? legs turned into hamburger? has he ever had to look out of one eye when the other is bloodied and fractured? See Randy will prey on shit like this.

MMA is a very technical game. RAW power helps, but is only one element of the game.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

I can't believe that people actually think Brock has a chance. Lesnar is a freak, and someday will rule the division, I agree with that. But come on...this will be his third fight. This is MMA, there is strategy,technique,and most importantly, a mental confidence and toughness that only comes with experience.

Lesnar is pulling the same shots as Kimbo in a way. He has mystique about him, that is why he is where he is. He puts asses in the seats. And more power to him for that. But don't be fooled....

What happens when Randy beats his face in? Has he ever been cut? had his nosed smashed? legs turned into hamburger? has he ever had to look out of one eye when the other is bloodied and fractured? See Randy will prey on shit like this.

MMA is a very technical game. RAW power helps, but is only one element of the game.

I completely understand the game. When told that someone is great in JJ I always ask if they have been hit in the face while doin it. JJ is hard to do when your getting your fists slammed in your face.. However it's like Brock said he is getting this shot because he is a world wide name. How many people world wide know Cheik Kongo? Now ask yourself how many people world wide know Brock Lesnar, there is no debate why he is getting a shot.

However I don't think Randy can handle Brock. Dude will be coming  in at 275-280 of pure strength. Randy has troubles with bigger guys, Barnett.... The other thing is Brock isn't a dummy, He can control possition he owned Herring and never let the dude move. I know Randy is not Herring but I don't see him doing much to Brock.

Brock is a much better fighter then Kimbo and is a top ten HW in the world in my book and he just begun. Dude is Fast, has heavy hands, tech. wrestler, strongest dude in MMA I am sure, he just needs to add a few things to his game and get some more fights under his belt (Which Randy is holding)

[WeightPSHR]

I completely understand the game. When told that someone is great in JJ I always ask if they have been hit in the face while doin it. JJ is hard to do when your getting your fists slammed in your face.. However it's like Brock said he is getting this shot because he is a world wide name. How many people world wide know Cheik Kongo? Now ask yourself how many people world wide know Brock Lesnar, there is no debate why he is getting a shot.

However I don't think Randy can handle Brock. Dude will be coming  in at 275-280 of pure strength. Randy has troubles with bigger guys, Barnett.... The other thing is Brock isn't a dummy, He can control possition he owned Herring and never let the dude move. I know Randy is not Herring but I don't see him doing much to Brock.

Brock is a much better fighter then Kimbo and is a top ten HW in the world in my book and he just begun. Dude is Fast, has heavy hands, tech. wrestler, strongest dude in MMA I am sure, he just needs to add a few things to his game and get some more fights under his belt (Which Randy is holding)

I have to disagree that Randy has problems with big dudes. The Barnett fight was long ago...Since then he has demolished Gonzaga (slammed him several times) and he dominated Silvia. Randy is aware of his abilities as he ages. If you noticed, he was a completely different fighter against Silvia.

As a fighter you look for weaknesses in a fighter. Besides Brock's wrestling ,and brute power, there is really nothing he excels at. How good is his JJ? How about his striking? We know he has power, but quickness in his punches? How about his submission defense?

[SinCitysmallGUY]

I have to disagree that Randy has problems with big dudes. The Barnett fight was long ago...Since then he has demolished Gonzaga (slammed him several times) and he dominated Silvia. Randy is aware of his abilities as he ages. If you noticed, he was a completely different fighter against Silvia.

As a fighter you look for weaknesses in a fighter. Besides Brock's wrestling ,and brute power, there is really nothing he excels at. How good is his JJ? How about his striking? We know he has power, but quickness in his punches? How about his submission defense?

The two big guys you talk about didn't have Brocks wrestling strength. Neither one of those guys are wrestlers nor know how to control position. Brock is an excellent wrestler, look at his record.(Not talking WWE ) Gonzaga and Sylvia's wrestling skill compared to brock's is like Brocks JJ against Nogs.

I think that Brock's striking will be decent this time around. I don't think his striking is that bad, shit it's not the best, but with size 4xl gloves anytime he hits you or grazes you that shit going to do a small amount of damage. I don't know if Randy is going to be able to choke out brock? Heel hook is what I would expect, I can imagine Brock picking randy up if he were to armbar, dude is a fucking mule and 230 aint shit to brock IMHO...

[Faust]

I am going to go for Lesnar on this one.
Couture is the better fighter, and had he been 40, i could have seen him pulling it off.
He beats him on experience, skills, intelligence, fighting instinct, but i think Brocks size and strenght will wear him out.
Brock's been training and fighting for a while now with topnotch fighters/trainers, i don't think he's near his top, but i can see him winning.

Couture is 45 now, father time will catch up on him. I think this is the last big paycheck he wanted (even though its not against Fedor) and then call it quits.

This is how i see it: during the first round Brock is pushing the pace, Randy is able to hold him off. Nothing big happens.
Second round: Randy gets more and more tired. Brock ends the fight by ground and pound halfway through.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

I am going to go for Lesnar on this one.
Couture is the better fighter, and had he been 40, i could have seen him pulling it off.
He beats him on experience, skills, intelligence, fighting instinct, but i think Brocks size and strenght will wear him out.
Brock's been training and fighting for a while now with topnotch fighters/trainers, i don't think he's near his top, but i can see him winning.

Couture is 45 now, father time will catch up on him. I think this is the last big paycheck he wanted (even though its not against Fedor) and then call it quits.

This is how i see it: during the first round Brock is pushing the pace, Randy is able to hold him off. Nothing big happens.
Second round: Randy gets more and more tired. Brock ends the fight by ground and pound halfway through.

I read somewhere that Brock said that if the fight goes into the late rounds. He said he is good to go 25 minutes, but that it will be bad for randy because he is going to have to be fighting and pushing and holding back close to 300 lbs and he has never had to do that.