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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2009, 10:45:22 AM »
No, go read the WND articles from this guy.  Additionally, Obama has not disputed this even once. 
 

WND?  Surely you jest.

And no, most politicians on both sides will not "dispute" rumors and obvious lies from tabloid writers.

if your only defence of using a tabloid writer's supposition is "well, obama hasn't denied it!".... that's weak.  For the POTUS to acknowledge anything is a big story, much less lend cred to a tabloid writer.

Can you back up this story or not?

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 10:48:06 AM »
if someone posted an article from wnd a year ago they'd be laughed off the board.

now a day' its a legit source  :-\

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2009, 10:49:34 AM »
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'2 sources' gave author Obama book info
Christopher Andersen talks about evidence that undermines president's writings


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Posted: September 28, 2009
9:38 pm Eastern

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Author Christopher Andersen said on a radio program today he had two sources of information for his new book confirming former domestic terrorist Bill Ayers played a large part in the writing of Barack Obama's "Dreams from My Father."

WND reported earlier that Andersen's newly released book backed the literary detective work of WND columnist Jack Cashill.

Obama's 1995 book won the 2006 Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album and drew praise from Time magazine, which called it "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."

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But since July 2008, Cashill has unveiled in nearly two dozen columns, summarized here, his compelling evidence that the unrepentant co-founder of the radical Weather Underground group – dismissed by Obama during the campaign as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" – shaped and refined the book with his exceptional writing skill and radical ideas.

Today, radio host Mancow Muller arranged for Cashill to question Andersen about the book.

Andersen described how Obama was "hopelessly blocked" in writing his book then turned to Ayers for help.

When Cashill inquired about the sources for the book, Andersen said he had two separate sources "within Hyde Park" but would not elaborate. Andersen insisted he made no claim Ayers wrote "Dreams," but he did not deny Ayers' deep involvement.

He said "Dreams" is significantly different – and better – than Obama's other book, "Audacity of Hope," from 2006.

Andersen wrote how for four years Obama failed to finish "Dreams," then "sought advice from his friend and Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers."

Andersen said Obama had taped interviews of many of his relatives, then, "These oral histories, along with his partial manuscript and a trunkload of notes were given to Ayers."

"Thanks to help from veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Book," Andersen wrote.

Such "help," Cashill argues, undermines Obama's role as a writer as well as his oft-repeated statements that he barely knew Ayers.

In a video, Obama himself has talked of his writings:

Andersen, in "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of a Marriage," writes that Obama was faced with a deadline with the Time Books division of Random House to submit his manuscript after already having canceled a contract with Simon & Schuster. Confronted with the threat of a second failure, his wife, Michelle, suggested he seek the help of Ayers.

Andersen quotes a neighbor in the Hyde Park area of Chicago where Obama and Ayers lived, who says of the two, "Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together."

"It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both," the neighbor said, according to Andersen.

Andersen wrote: "In the end, Ayers's contribution to Barack's "Dreams from My Father" would be significant – so much so that the book's language, oddly specific references, literary devices, and themes would bear a jarring similarity to Ayers's own writing."

Andersen concludes, "Thanks to help from the veteran writer Ayers, Barack would be able to submit a manuscript to his editors at Times Books."

Last fall, Cashill commissioned an independent scientific comparative analysis of writings by Obama and Ayers to determine whether Ayers had a significant role in the writing of "Dreams."

Cashill reported at least four different stylometric analysts supported his extensive forensic evidence.

His experts included university professors from the U.S. and England in the statistical analysis of authorship, systems engineers, writers and Ph.D. literary analysts. Most, particularly professors at public universities, asked that their names not be revealed.

One analyst said it was possible Ayers served as a "book doctor," drastically rewriting work Obama already had done.

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Lets see if Obama denies this.  


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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2009, 10:51:21 AM »
if someone posted an article from wnd a year ago they'd be laughed off the board.

now a day' its a legit source  :-\

That's fine, but the author of this book is saying it as well.  The fact of the matter is that Obama has concealed his past like everything else in order to dupe moronic voters into believing a storyline about him that simply was a product of marketing and slick manipluation.   

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2009, 10:51:39 AM »
Let's see if the most important man on earth takes time from the economy and healthcare to deny what a tabloid writer (trying to sell his book) implied on a right-wing radio show.


Yeah, if Obama doesn't hold a press conference immediately, we have clear proof.   ::)

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2009, 10:53:47 AM »
Let's see if the most important man on earth takes time from the economy and healthcare to deny what a tabloid writer (trying to sell his book) implied on a right-wing radio show.


Yeah, if Obama doesn't hold a press conference immediately, we have clear proof.   ::)

Well, he has enough time to have beer summits, shill for the olympics, go on letterman, etc. 

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2009, 10:55:02 AM »
Well, he has enough time to have beer summits, shill for the olympics, go on letterman, etc. 

So you're contending Obama should hold a press conference and deny every implication from every author selling a book on every right-wing radio station?

Or just when a failure to do so will bail you out of another thread you started with shitty sources? ;)

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2009, 11:02:03 AM »
So you're contending Obama should hold a press conference and deny every implication from every author selling a book on every right-wing radio station?

Or just when a failure to do so will bail you out of another thread you started with shitty sources? ;)

Look, anyone with an ounce of honesty knew and acknowledged that Ayeres and Obama were kindred spirits. 

Only people like yourself dismissed information like this because it got in the way of your cultish admiration for your sfengali Obama.  Face it, there is abolsutely nothing that could come out that would diminish your idol worship of this friend of domestic terrorists like Ayeres. 

   

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2009, 11:03:59 AM »
Look, anyone with an ounce of honesty knew and acknowledged that Ayeres and Obama were kindred spirits. 
 

I didn't know kindred spirits co-wrote books together as a rule. 

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2009, 11:05:47 AM »
I didn't know kindred spirits co-wrote books together as a rule. 


They dont, unless you share beliefs, politics, and goals. 

Ayers and Obama are on and the same. 

Remember - Dear Leader sought these people out, not the other way around.  Same for Rev. Wright, Khlaidi, Van jones, ect. 

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2009, 11:15:56 AM »
Let's see if the most important man on earth takes time from the economy and healthcare to deny what a tabloid writer (trying to sell his book) implied on a right-wing radio show.


Yeah, if Obama doesn't hold a press conference immediately, we have clear proof.   ::)

Well he had time to defend that little sawed off racist Gates.He had time to comment on Kanye West.He has time to go on FIVE talk shows on a Sunday.He has time to go on Letterman.As far as I can see all he has time for is stupidity.When does he work.

Palins book is already number three on Amazon and it isnt even printed yet.I wonder if the brilliant Joe Biden wrote a book who,besided him and his family would read it.You know it would be plagerised ,thats for sure.

Palin admitted she had a ghost writer.Obama cant bring himself to admit William Ayers[who he barely knows]wrote his book for him.We see once he gets off prompter how brilliant he is.UMMMM,HMMMMM,AHHHHHHHH,HMMMMM.

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2009, 11:23:46 AM »
Well he had time to defend that little sawed off racist Gates.He had time to comment on Kanye West.He has time to go on FIVE talk shows on a Sunday.He has time to go on Letterman.As far as I can see all he has time for is stupidity.When does he work.

Palins book is already number three on Amazon and it isnt even printed yet.I wonder if the brilliant Joe Biden wrote a book who,besided him and his family would read it.You know it would be plagerised ,thats for sure.

Palin admitted she had a ghost writer.Obama cant bring himself to admit William Ayers[who he barely knows]wrote his book for him.We see once he gets off prompter how brilliant he is.UMMMM,HMMMMM,AHHHHHHHH,HMMMMM.

Thanks Billy.  That made me laugh. 

BTW 240 - When do you think we will see the next Obama press conference? 

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2009, 11:54:53 AM »
WorldNetDaily
'2 sources' gave author Obama book info
Christopher Andersen talks about evidence that undermines president's writings


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color=red]When Cashill inquired about the sources for the book, Andersen said he had two separate sources "within Hyde Park" but would not elaborate. Andersen insisted he made no claim Ayers wrote "Dreams," but he did not deny Ayers' deep involvement. [/color]

Andersen quotes a neighbor in the Hyde Park area of Chicago where Obama and Ayers lived, who says of the two, "Everyone knew they were friends and that they worked on various projects together."


 



LIke I said, only one named source, the guy who started the rumor.

Why is Andersen being so secretive about the identities of the other two people. According to the article, this is one of the people he would not identify:

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"It was no secret. Why would it be? People liked them both," the neighbor said, according to Andersen.

It's odd that someone who would say that would  only speak anonymously, isn't it? You know, unless that quote is completely made-up.

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2009, 11:58:15 AM »
LIke I said, only one named source, the guy who started the rumor.

Why is Andersen being so secretive about the identities of the other two people. According to the article, this is one of the people he would not identify:

It's odd that someone who would say that would  only speak anonymously, isn't it? You know, unless that quote is completely made-up.


I'm sure the M-I-L does not want to be named.   ;D  ;D

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2009, 12:07:54 PM »
No, go read the WND articles from this guy.  Additionally, Obama has not disputed this even once. 
 

Seriously, doesn't it make you suspicious that even though his "sources" don't seem to think this is a big issue he still refuses to name them?

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2009, 12:09:01 PM »
Seriously, doesn't it make you suspicious that even though his "sources" don't seem to think this is a big issue he still refuses to name them?


I dont think they care.  Its only us wing nuts, birthers, teabaggers, etc who care.  :o  :o  :o

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2009, 12:25:37 PM »

I dont think they care.  Its only us wing nuts, birthers, teabaggers, etc who care.  :o  :o  :o

Exactly. So why keep it a secret. Revealing the names would only support his case. The quoted party doesn't seem to care. That's just plain odd.

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2009, 12:27:54 PM »
Exactly. So why keep it a secret. Revealing the names would only support his case. The quoted party doesn't seem to care. That's just plain odd.

It might be a family member on the gravy train who does not want to alienate the Sugar Daddy.   

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2009, 12:38:32 PM »
It might be a family member on the gravy train who does not want to alienate the Sugar Daddy.    

Sure.  ;)

Besides, if, as the "family member" says, Ayers working on the book was no secret, there would surely be someone not related to Obama who was willing to speak on the record, wouldn't there?

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2009, 12:40:01 PM »
Sure.  ;)

Besides, if, as the "family member" says, Ayers working on the book was no secret, there would surely be someone not related to Obama who was willing to speak on the record, wouldn't there?

Its probably the MIL.  Michelle probably was bitching out her husband to MIL when money was tight and now MIL is getting her little payback.   

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Re: S.D. ghostwriter mum on Sarah Palin memoir
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2009, 12:43:04 PM »
Its probably the MIL.  Michelle probably was bitching out her husband to MIL when money was tight and now MIL is getting her little payback.   

You might pull something reaching like that.