It's no wonder Fedor is not in the UFC...

[marty31672]

Fedor is doing pretty well financially your protestations to the contrary notwithstanding

lolol

[MindSpin]

Anyone who still believes that Fedor is better off fighting anywhere but the UFC, is simply in denial of the facts.  

The facts are that with the UFC Fedor would make as much or more money in the short-term and definitely more money in the long-term.  Further, he would have an opportunity to build his name in the US and truly cement himself as the best heavyweight today.

The route he has chosen will keep him in obscurity, will tarnish his legacy and will continue to line the pockets of his handlers.

It's that simple fellas.    

[suckmymuscle]

Anyone who still believes that Fedor is better off fighting anywhere but the UFC, is simply in denial of the facts.  

The facts are that with the UFC Fedor would make as much or more money in the short-term and definitely more money in the long-term.  Further, he would have an opportunity to build his name in the US and truly cement himself as the best heavyweight today.

The route he has chosen will keep him in obscurity, will tarnish his legacy and will continue to line the pockets of his handlers.

It's that simple fellas.    

  Can't you understand that, if the UFC agreed to copromote with M-1, Fedor would earn 10% of the total PPV and sales ticket revenues? Without copromotion, he will be making at best 5% of PPV and sales ticket revenues or whatever teh fuck bone Dana White throws at him. And 3 mil per fight is ridiculous. Please tell me that you don't believe this ridiculous number. The UFC doesen't make that when you add PPV and ticket sales revenue for a single event, and you think they were going to pay Fedor this per fight? Wake up, dude.

  And Fedor has nothing left to prove. not fighting a former WWE clown with a total of 5 fights won't tarnish his reputation. Besides, he doesen't need the U.S market to make money: he is unspeakably popular in Asia, and he has made millions, besides with the fights, by also by doing commercials there. He recently earned a fortune to a 30 second Snickers commercial in Korea. He doesen't need Americans.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

Are you really that much of a retard !?  If there were an M1/UFC co promotion, Fedor would not get 10% of the total PPV/tickets, you dimwit.  First, they would have to establish how to divi up the profits between UFC & M1.  Assuming it were 50/50, Fedor would get 5% of the 50% that that M1 gets.

The highest rated UFC event did nearly 8 million PPV buys, which translates to almost $400 million in revenues (not counting ticket sales and endorsement revenues).  So, the breakdown would look like this:

M1 - 50% - $200 million
-Fedor - 10% - $20 million
-Finkelchtein - 90% - $180 million

UFC - $200 million 

Finkelchtein ends up making 9x more money than Fedor and gets to build his brand name on the back of the UFC.
Fedor gets fucked.
UFC gets fucked.

If Fedor signs with the UFC, it would look like this:

UFC - $380 million
Fedor - $20 million
Finkelchtein - NOTHING!

Now you know why there is no deal.

[gmflex]

I'll be the first to Say i would love to see the Great Fedor in the UFC..
I don't think it will ever happen..
MMA is more than the UFC..
Fedor is well known out side the USA..
He is getting to be better known as Strikeforce continues to Market him..
His next scheduled fight will be live in April from Miami on CBS...
Fedor will continue to do great with out the UFC..
It will continue to aggreviate the UFC guy's that Fedor is not in the UFC..
It will continue to cause DANA to have more Meltdowns because he cant get him which
is evident from his last interview he had on ESPN radio after UFC 108...
In Dana's own words... he wants fedor... the ufc's needs Fedor...
Regardless of what the UFC guy's say: Fedor will retire as one of the best's if not the greatest MMA fighter that ever lived..
 

[suckmymuscle]

Are you really that much of a retard !?  If there were an M1/UFC co promotion, Fedor would not get 10% of the total PPV/tickets, you dimwit.  First, they would have to establish how to divi up the profits between UFC & M1.  Assuming it were 50/50, Fedor would get 5% of the 50% that that M1 gets.

The highest rated UFC event did nearly 8 million PPV buys, which translates to almost $400 million in revenues (not counting ticket sales and endorsement revenues).  So, the breakdown would look like this:

M1 - 50% - $200 million
-Fedor - 10% - $20 million
-Finkelchtein - 90% - $180 million

UFC - $200 million 

Finkelchtein ends up making 9x more money than Fedor and gets to build his brand name on the back of the UFC.
Fedor gets fucked.
UFC gets fucked.

If Fedor signs with the UFC, it would look like this:

UFC - $380 million
Fedor - $20 million
Finkelchtein - NOTHING!

Now you know why there is no deal.

  Ok, first of all I am reporting you to Ron for insulting me. You are way, way over the line as a moderator. This is not the first time you insult people either. Secondly, don't call me a retard because I am more intelligent than you. Pick any topic of debate and I will crush you.

  Moving on, you are sriously crazy if you think the UF makes 400 mil per event. At 6 events a year, that would make the UFC one of the top 500 corporations in the U.S in terms of revenues, which it is not. Besides, even if they did, they wouldn't pay 3 mil for a single fighter for a single fight, and they certainly wouldn't pay Fedor 30 mil for a 4-6 fight deal. And to what fighter does the UFC give a % of PPV and also ticket sales revenues? Never heard of that. Tito left the UFC broke, and he was one of their middleweight stars for several years. Wanderlei Silva mentioned that he didn't make as much in the UFC as he did in PRIDE. UFC fighters hate Dana White and the Fertitas and feel exploited by them. And do you know what a copromotion is, dumby? That means that everything is split 50/50. At 20% of ownevership, that would mean Fedor would ear 10% of total revenues.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 

[MindSpin]

ha ha...I'm going to tell my daddy...jesus dude, man up.  I crush you in an argument by clearly showing you have no idea what you're talking about, thus exposing you as a retard, and you're comeback is that you're going to tell Ron?  LOL...


MELTDOWN!

[heavyNbasic]

The highest rated UFC event did nearly 8 million PPV buys, which translates to almost $400 million in revenues (not counting ticket sales and endorsement revenues).

Various sources I checked on google.com (6 or 7) indicate it was around 8 mil PPV buys for '09 events combined.  UFC 100 being the top seller, with 1.5 mil and change.  Either way, there's nothing wrong with 8 mil PPV buys a year.  I'm surprised it's that high, given the availability of live feeds on the internet.  I make a $2.50 "donation" and get a HD stream for each event, and there's a ton out there for free. 

[MindSpin]

You're right, I meant to say for the year, not just UFC 100.  The data is out there for anyone to google.  The point is that based on his rationale regarding Fedor's compensation, suckmymuscle could have easily been cast opposite Jim Carey in Dumb & Dumber.

[Fury]

You're right, I meant to say for the year, not just UFC 100.  The data is out there for anyone to google.  The point is that based on his rationale regarding Fedor's compensation, suckmymuscle could have easily been cast opposite Jim Carey in Dumb & Dumber.

How so? It's pretty clear that you're blatantly exaggerating statistics on the issue.

[MindSpin]

The only thing that is clear, is your bitterness toward anything UFC related.  What are you going to do if Fedor ever does step into the octagon?  I bet you'll kill yourself...lol!

[suckmymuscle]

ha ha...I'm going to tell my daddy...jesus dude, man up.  I crush you in an argument by clearly showing you have no idea what you're talking about, thus exposing you as a retard, and you're comeback is that you're going to tell Ron?  LOL...


MELTDOWN!

  How have you crushed me, you son of a bitch? you are the moron who said Fedor was going to make 3 million per fight n the UFC, not me. You obviously think the UFC is one of Fortune's 500 largest companies making 400 mill per event and billions of dollars per year in revenue. It isn't. You are a complete fucking dellusional fuckwit for believing that. And I told Ron because you started insulting like a buck, something that is against the board's rules and as a moderator you should set an example.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  How have you crushed me, you son of a bitch? you are the moron who said Fedor was going to make 3 million per fight n the UFC, not me. You obviously think the UFC is one of Fortune's 500 largest companies making 400 mill per event and billions of dollars per year in revenue. It isn't. You are a complete fucking dellusional fuckwit for believing that. And I told Ron because you started insulting like a buck, something that is against the board's rules and as a moderator you should set an example.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

BWAHAHAH....thanks for the laugh, I needed it today.  That's one of the best meltdowns I've seen in a while "...you son of a bitch..." lol!!!

[suckmymuscle]

BWAHAHAH....thanks for the laugh, I needed it today.  That's one of the best meltdowns I've seen in a while "...you son of a bitch..." lol!!!

  Tell us more how the UFC makes billions - thousands of millions for you Brits - of dollars per year in revenues, thus rivaling Microsoft, Citibank and other of the World's largest corporations, Einstein. Nice way to own yourself, dumby. As for the insults, you started it, so it is your meltdown and not mine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

lol...what's a "dumby"