Arkansas teen accuses mom of Facebook harassment

[Hereford]

then it would have been the parents fault.

[24KT]

16 year old pissed off kid blazing down the road at high speed, chances of killing one or more people?  Probably about the same as firing a gun off in the air in a populated area but only one will be killed by the stray bullet.  What this kid did is serious, can't say I blame the mother for being pissed.  What would they all being doing now if her kid had killed a family on the road? 

Hugo, I totally get that what he did in speeding was wrong. I get that... but what does his driving his car have to do with his Facebook acct. Let the punishment fit the crime... take his car keys away, until he can demonstrate his willingness to drive responsibly... don't hack his Facebook account and change his password. That IS harassment. Furthermore... if he is to be disciplined for any wrongdoing, it sure as heck shouldn't be by her. If she was such a good parent, she wouldn't be his mother in name only. She dumped the kid 5 years ago. she has the title of "mother" for no other reason other than she pooped the kid out of her cooter (Hi Jakey). giving birth doesn't make you a parent, raising the child does. Something she does not do. She pawned him off on his grandmother 5 years ago... and she thinks she can swoop into his life... and hack his accounts and deprive him of their use? Bitch needs to take a chill pill. She has no right to his Facebook account, much less altering his passwords to deprive him of the use of his own account. What she did is harassment. And I betcha granny is backing him all the way. She crossed the line.

[powerpack]

Hugo, I totally get that what he did in speeding was wrong. I get that... but what does his driving his car have to do with his Facebook acct. Let the punishment fit the crime... take his car keys away, until he can demonstrate his willingness to drive responsibly... don't hack his Facebook account and change his password.

I agree with that.
There is no more damaging thing than to publicly humiliate a teenager, especially if it is his own parents.
I discipline my two teens but I am very careful how I do it and never publicly

[Hugo Chavez]

Hugo, I totally get that what he did in speeding was wrong. I get that... but what does his driving his car have to do with his Facebook acct. Let the punishment fit the crime... take his car keys away, until he can demonstrate his willingness to drive responsibly... don't hack his Facebook account and change his password. That IS harassment. Furthermore... if he is to be disciplined for any wrongdoing, it sure as heck shouldn't be by her. If she was such a good parent, she wouldn't be his mother in name only. She dumped the kid 5 years ago. she has the title of "mother" for no other reason other than she pooped the kid out of her cooter (Hi Jakey). giving birth doesn't make you a parent, raising the child does. Something she does not do. She pawned him off on his grandmother 5 years ago... and she thinks she can swoop into his life... and hack his accounts and deprive him of their use? Bitch needs to take a chill pill. She has no right to his Facebook account, much less altering his passwords to deprive him of the use of his own account. What she did is harassment. And I betcha granny is backing him all the way. She crossed the line.

I'm not saying I would handle it the same way she did.  I never said that.  On the same hand, I'm not going to tell her how to disipline her kid.  I have no idea what they've gone through to this point.  I don't see this as crossing the line, sorry.  This isn't shit compared to how I and others out west were raised and it did us good.

[tu_holmes]

How is the parent to even know if the kid really did it or was just spouting some nonsense for his friends?

Either way, I don't see locking him out of his own facebook account actually teaching him anything, I'd even wager a guess that it's probably against the law to some extent.

[Hugo Chavez]

Oh my god, locking the kid out of a facebook accout, major tragedy   He said he did it, speculating on him faking it?  Who fucking cares, the mother is in a better place to judge, not us.

[Parker]

I guess we are talkin about different ages then. a 16 year old...is not a kid..he needs to know why. I think by the age of 7 Detailed explinations are in order

a 16 yr old is a kid who is tryin test the reins...meaning he wants conflict. And we have clue about her parenting skills, how well he was raised, or where his father is...once you know that, it takes a whole new spin on "Because I said so"

"Because I am your mother and what I say goes in this house"

What if she took away his computer, would that be depriving him, or if he bought his computer, would that be theft?

They have some backwards laws in Arkansas...there basically is no probable cause for harassment as defined by Black's Law dictionary: "a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose"

He filed because he was pissed at his mother plain and simple.

[24KT]

Oh my god, locking the kid out of a facebook accout, major tragedy   He said he did it, speculating on him faking it?  Who fucking cares, the mother is in a better place to judge, not us.

That's a big point you missed Hugo. This woman is NOT in a better place to judge. Infact, she has no right to judge. She hasn't lived with him in over 5 years. Those of us in this forum probably know each other better than this woman probably knew him. You're projecting your own relationship with your parents growing up onto their situation. She had as much right to hack his account and deprive him of it, as I do of hacking your Hugo Chavez account, depriving you of it's use, and posting "I Hugo Chavez am a limp dicked prick whose wife cuckolded him, and am now raising someone else's child as a result." ...except in here you are just Hugo Chavez and can easily put it behind you. however, humiliating you like that to all your friends and acquaintances is not easily lived down. what she did is harassment, and she had no right to do it. tHis is not some minor living in her house under her roof. this is a kid who she dumped 5 years ago and who does not even live with her. She has no right to his electronic internet accounts whatsoever, let alone deliberately depriving him of their use or posting things to his account. It's the principal involved.

[Hugo Chavez]

OMG, I knew I didn't want to argue this with you Jag.  I had to stop after your second sentence.  You're not even a parent, wtf are you doing even commenting?  You haven't even experienced the drive a parent feels for their child.  You have no concept of the responsibilty.  Easy for you to side with a kid.  I can't believe you're treating this like the kid is being beaten and locked in a closet or some fucking shit.  Clueless....

[24KT]

Another joyous result from great American liberism.

Throw the kid into state care, lets see how he fares there if he's too good for momma...

It was decided  a long time ago that her mental health issues meant she couldn't be a good parent, and couldn't provide him the guidance he needed. Clearly that still remains the case. He doesn't live with his mother and hasn't for years. he lives with his grandmother, and now wants nothing to do with her, and requesting a restraining order of sorts in order to ensure no contact from her.

What you all fail to realize is this isn't some bleeding heart ACLU case. The town prosecutor felt the harassment charges were merited as a result of what she posted. C'mon... what kind of a parent locks their teenager out of their own Facebook account, as well as email account in order to ensure he will never regain access to his facebook account... then proceeds to not only publicly humiliate him, ...but to also start carrying on conversations with his friends?  What if a grown man had done that to his teenaged daughter, then used the account to chat with al  her little friends. Would you think it ok then for a creepy old man to post to teenage girls pretending to be a teenage girl?

It won't be open season on parents... it will however make a clear & definitive statement that kids do have rights.

[24KT]

OMG, I knew I didn't want to argue this with you Jag.  I had to stop after your second sentence.  You're not even a parent, wtf are you doing even commenting?  You haven't even experienced the drive a parent feels for their child.  You have no concept of the responsibilty.  Easy for you to side with a kid.  I can't believe you're treating this like the kid is being beaten and locked in a closet or some fucking shit.  Clueless....

  Excuse F-ing me Mr. Hugo Chavez who is not really even a president, but has the gall to comment on the actions of Presidents Bush and Obama? When the F**k have you ever hosted a television show on Fox? I guess you aren't qualified to comment on Beck, ...and since you are not and have not ever been a member of congress... you need to zip it there too.  

Get over your own parental potential nightmares. She'll be 16 soon enough, no need to spend the next 15 years conjuring up nightmares and loosing your mind as a result. Calm the F down and think about what she did.

Just because one gives birth to someone does not give them leave to do whatever they want, ...especially in this particular case. She was not a custodial parent, she was a womb. no more. Her excuse of doing it because he wrote that he'd been speeding is just that, an excuse... an unjustifiable one. How does hacking his Facebook and changing his passwords to deprive him of his account's use going to teach him about road safety? How does depriving him of his Facebook account and publicly humiliating him and depriving him of the use of his Facebook account, so that the humiliation can live on forever without his ability to remove it... how does that teach hjim about road safety.  She's lucky he took it to the courthouse. Most 16 yr old kids I know could do some serious physical damage if they wanted to.

[24KT]

OMG, I knew I didn't want to argue this with you Jag.  I had to stop after your second sentence.  You're not even a parent, wtf are you doing even commenting?  You haven't even experienced the drive a parent feels for their child.

A drive so strong she felt the need to publicly slander, harass, and humiliate him to not only his friends, but to the world?     I'm sure most would take a pass on that.


You have no concept of the responsibilty.  Easy for you to side with a kid.  I can't believe you're treating this like the kid is being beaten and locked in a closet or some fucking shit.  Clueless....

Evidently neither does she cause she copped out of that responsibility years ago when he was foisted on his grandmother due to her mental health issues.

PS: That's where you're wrong. I do know the responsibility, and that's why I choose not to have kids.

[Hugo Chavez]

Excuse F-ing me Mr. Hugo Chavez who is not really even a president, but has the gall to comment on the actions of Presidents Bush and Obama? When the F**k have you ever hosted a television show on Fox? I guess you aren't qualified to comment on Beck, ...and since you are not and have not ever been a member of congress... you need to zip it there too.  

Get over your own parental potential nightmares. She'll be 16 soon enough, no need to spend the next 15 years conjuring up nightmares and loosing your mind as a result. Calm the F down and think about what she did.

Just because one gives birth to someone does not give them leave to do whatever they want, ...especially in this particular case. She was not a custodial parent, she was a womb. no more. Her excuse of doing it because he wrote that he'd been speeding is just that, an excuse... an unjustifiable one. How does hacking his Facebook and changing his passwords to deprive him of his account's use going to teach him about road safety? How does depriving him of his Facebook account and publicly humiliating him and depriving him of the use of his Facebook account, so that the humiliation can live on forever without his ability to remove it... how does that teach hjim about road safety.  She's lucky he took it to the courthouse. Most 16 yr old kids I know could do some serious physical damage if they wanted to.

god you're a fucking moron sometimes.  All those people and positions you mentioned are either serving us or speaking to us.  That has nothing to do with a family, mother and child.  When someone is serving the voters we have a right to comment, when someone is talking to the masses, we have a right to comment, when a mother is punishing her kid, I don't give a shit unless the kid is being abused.

[24KT]

god you're a fucking moron sometimes.  All those people and positions you mentioned are either serving us or speaking to us.  That has nothing to do with a family, mother and child.  When someone is serving the voters we have a right to comment, when someone is talking to the masses, we have a right to comment, when a mother is punishing her kid, I don't give a shit unless the kid is being abused.

She gave up rights to her kid, and harassment is considered abuse under the law.

[tu_holmes]

If you're a complete absentee parent, for 5 years... You pretty much gave up your parental rights I'd say.

Especially when it comes to punishment... It's like walking up to a 5 year old you've never met and spanking them because you think they deserve it.

You are a stranger.

[24KT]

If you're a complete absentee parent, for 5 years... You pretty much gave up your parental rights I'd say.

Especially when it comes to punishment... It's like walking up to a 5 year old you've never met and spanking them because you think they deserve it.

You are a stranger.

EXACTLY!!!!  Who the heck is she to waltz in 5 yrs later and start making demands, let alone thinking she's entitled to dispense punishment... especially over something she has no idea even occured? now if grandma was disciplining him, it might be a different story, ...but it's not, ...it's the biyotch who dumped him yrs ago. If she didn't want to be a single parent then, ...she doesn't get to be a single parent now. 'sides, what she did wasn't parenting, ...it was malicious harassment.

[Hereford]

It was decided  a long time ago that her mental health issues meant she couldn't be a good parent, and couldn't provide him the guidance he needed. Clearly that still remains the case. He doesn't live with his mother and hasn't for years. he lives with his grandmother, and now wants nothing to do with her, and requesting a restraining order of sorts in order to ensure no contact from her.

What you all fail to realize is this isn't some bleeding heart ACLU case. The town prosecutor felt the harassment charges were merited as a result of what she posted. C'mon... what kind of a parent locks their teenager out of their own Facebook account, as well as email account in order to ensure he will never regain access to his facebook account... then proceeds to not only publicly humiliate him, ...but to also start carrying on conversations with his friends?  What if a grown man had done that to his teenaged daughter, then used the account to chat with al  her little friends. Would you think it ok then for a creepy old man to post to teenage girls pretending to be a teenage girl?

It won't be open season on parents... it will however make a clear & definitive statement that kids do have rights.

If mental health was a criteria for being allowed to be a parent there would be a whole lot of orphan kids of liberals out there...

Epic faillure at playing the devils advocate.

[24KT]

If mental health was a criteria for being allowed to be a parent there would be a whole lot of orphan kids of liberals out there...

Epic faillure at playing the devils advocate.

If I were advocating for the devil, I would have taken her side. 

[Hereford]

Yea, I'm pretty sure the devil iss a woman....

But also pretty sure this isn't 'her'. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

Let's forget the fact she gave birth to this little pussy.

You should be laughed out of court for suing for something facebook related... 

[24KT]

Let's forget the fact she gave birth to this little pussy.

You should be laughed out of court for suing for something facebook related... 

May 12th is coming up pretty shortly. We'll see what transpires then.

[tonymctones]

my piece peace(hahahah how funny is that shit? ) offering to ease the tension  

as for the public embarrasement/humiliation point...my mother had no problem what so ever punishing me in public or making me apologize to ppl when she felt I had done something wrong. It had nothing not ONE THING to do with embarrasing me or trying to humiliate me it was about teaching me right from wrong and proper respect for others. There isnt anything to point towards this woman trying to humiliate this kid.

Its extremely sad that a mother/son relationship would deteriorate to this point, if I had to guess Id say they both need a good ass kicking.

[Dos Equis]

Let's forget the fact she gave birth to this little pussy.

You should be laughed out of court for suing for something facebook related... 

Yep.

[24KT]

my piece peace(hahahah how funny is that shit? ) offering to ease the tension  

as for the public embarrasement/humiliation point...my mother had no problem what so ever punishing me in public or making me apologize to ppl when she felt I had done something wrong. It had nothing not ONE THING to do with embarrasing me or trying to humiliate me it was about teaching me right from wrong and proper respect for others.

Your mother was a mother to you. We often put up with behaviour from family that we would never EVER in a million years aceept from anyone else. If a total stranger had tried to do to you what your mother did, would you havve accepted it, or would your reaction be completely different.  If your mother slapped you across the face, what would you do? If some chick you'd seen around the hallways at school slapped you across the face... what would you do?

There isnt anything to point towards this woman trying to humiliate this kid.

Evidently the prosecutor thought harassment charges were justified. Stop and think about it for a moment.
16 yr old kids don't vote... parents do. What prosecutor who needs to get re-elected, would file harassment charges against a biological parent unless there was some merit to it? ...May 12^th

Its extremely sad that a mother/son relationship would deteriorate to this point, if I had to guess Id say they both need a good ass kicking.

But given what she did, her lackadaisical attitude and refusal to acknowledge let alone take responsibility for her actions... it doesn't surprise me. Why would he need the ass kicking for the deteriorated relationship? She dumped his ass when he was 10 or 11. It wasn't up to him to maintain a healthy relationship with her. At the age of 10, the onus is all on her. If her relationship with her child has deteriorated to such an extent thaat the kid feels  the need to go to court to ensure he won't have to have any contact with her...it's all on her!