GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN

[kingko]

yeah it makes you really fat so you have to have a speedy metabolism and do some cardio and have a strick diet

[tbombz]

it wont make you fat, the food you eat will. as long as you dont eat too much food, particularly fats, then you wont add any fat. but slin wont really make you grow either, unless your already massive and even then it is more just about fullness and glycogen levels than about muscle growth.   

more on the issue of getting fat... most guys running slin do it along side gh or t3 or both. when done that way, particularly with the combo, fat gaining is quite difficult. youd have to eat a shitload of both carbs and fats.

[nder98]

ooh brother...these stupid questions can be answered with google.

No way he is the  "God of Hormones"   Gayest fucking thing i ever heard..  Ron, please ban the next asshole that says "God of Hormones" one more time. So tired of ra tards sucking this guys dick all the time.

[Stavios]

it wont make you fat, the food you eat will. as long as you dont eat too much food, particularly fats, then you wont add any fat. but slin wont really make you grow either, unless your already massive and even then it is more just about fullness and glycogen levels than about muscle growth.   

more on the issue of getting fat... most guys running slin do it along side gh or t3 or both. when done that way, particularly with the combo, fat gaining is quite difficult. youd have to eat a shitload of both carbs and fats.

BOOM !

I can up my weight a lot with slin, but it's not really muscle.

just some fullness that will eventually go away

[On_Swole]

BOOM !

I can up my weight a lot with slin, but it's not really muscle.

just some fullness that will eventually go away

Nasser begs to differ. 1994 vs. 1995

[willl]

like gh said the best time to use slin effectively for growth is when at low percentage bodyfat 8 to 10
use a lot of as, and if u can afford it gh

if predisposition to be lean u will never get fat no matter how many fries and burgers u eat
u need to workout ofcourse, short but intensive will do

if ur fat to start with then u shdnt use slin

done properly, slin will give you what you want and that is bigger muscle, not just fullness but bigger muscularity

somehow, in some ppl, slin is perceived to promote local muscle growth

note that different places you inject in body will have different time-frames to its release

[Stavios]

Nasser begs to differ. 1994 vs. 1995

Please don't compare this incredible bodybuilder with my shitty physique ! 

I see your point tho, maybe I am just using it wrong

[pellius]

I still don't understand how insulin works from a bodybuilding perspective. No matter how much you eat, in a healthy person your body will produce the insulin necessary to process the carbs. I can see how injecting insulin speed up the process but so what? Why does cramming in nutrients faster make you build more muscle? And with long acting slin, you have slin always in your blood stream which just suppresses your own production. Why is that anabolic?

And why is insulin by itself virtually useless unless it is combined with HGH? What is the relationship that enhances the anabolic effect of the other? And is there a dosage correlation that if you take this much slin you have to take this much HGH?

[Howard]

like gh said the best time to use slin effectively for growth is when at low percentage bodyfat 8 to 10
use a lot of as, and if u can afford it gh

if predisposition to be lean u will never get fat no matter how many fries and burgers u eat
u need to workout ofcourse, short but intensive will do

if ur fat to start with then u shdnt use slin

done properly, slin will give you what you want and that is bigger muscle, not just fullness but bigger muscularity

somehow, in some ppl, slin is perceived to promote local muscle growth

note that different places you inject in body will have different time-frames to its release

I know the general stuff and motivation as to why they use slin. C'mon can't you give me some biochemsitry here on how the actual mechanism works to build extra muscle. Thanks.I sincerely want some facts on this.

[jude2]

gh15 must be tired from the Mr. O.

[Master Blaster]

100IU right before bed without eating and you are g2g

 

[Stavios]

I still don't understand how insulin works from a bodybuilding perspective. No matter how much you eat, in a healthy person your body will produce the insulin necessary to process the carbs. I can see how injecting insulin speed up the process but so what? Why does cramming in nutrients faster make you build more muscle? And with long acting slin, you have slin always in your blood stream which just suppresses your own production. Why is that anabolic?

And why is insulin by itself virtually useless unless it is combined with HGH? What is the relationship that enhances the anabolic effect of the other? And is there a dosage correlation that if you take this much slin you have to take this much HGH?

I never understood either

[dustin]

I still don't understand how insulin works from a bodybuilding perspective. No matter how much you eat, in a healthy person your body will produce the insulin necessary to process the carbs. I can see how injecting insulin speed up the process but so what? Why does cramming in nutrients faster make you build more muscle? And with long acting slin, you have slin always in your blood stream which just suppresses your own production. Why is that anabolic?

And why is insulin by itself virtually useless unless it is combined with HGH? What is the relationship that enhances the anabolic effect of the other? And is there a dosage correlation that if you take this much slin you have to take this much HGH?

In a nutshell it just works better than endogenous insulin. I think its similar to when you put on very new muscle for the first time, its all glycogen and easy to lose. Take advantage of the extra size that's been accumulated along with the muscular strength and endurance. That size will solidify over time and be easier to retain. Lift heavy as fuck just like you should in order to get that hard, granite like muscle.

Without other anabolics like heavy AAS and especially GH which is amazingly synergistic, you wont see much as you mentioned. Coupled with T3 which offers a myriad of synergy as well you can put on some good size and keep it after time. Slin can just bloat you if you don't have the other anabolics and don't use it consistently. You need to be lean enough to go balls to the wall otherwise it just helps with recovery. Unfortunately when you bang it hard with slin you expose yourself to more danger, but that's the only way its advantageous.

[willl]

I know the general stuff and motivation as to why they use slin. C'mon can't you give me some biochemsitry here on how the actual mechanism works to build extra muscle. Thanks.I sincerely want some facts on this.

aight concerning 'biochemistry' procedure

talk to your local pharmacist and get you some slin
buy the pens and get needles
put the needle on the pen, no swab required,
rotate indicator on pen to get desired amount
jab in muscle anywhere u want and shoot

afet about 2 weeks doing this repetitively
u will notice increased muscularity and continue to see it as amounts and time increase

[willl]

I still don't understand how insulin works from a bodybuilding perspective. No matter how much you eat, in a healthy person your body will produce the insulin necessary to process the carbs. I can see how injecting insulin speed up the process but so what? Why does cramming in nutrients faster make you build more muscle? And with long acting slin, you have slin always in your blood stream which just suppresses your own production. Why is that anabolic?

And why is insulin by itself virtually useless unless it is combined with HGH? What is the relationship that enhances the anabolic effect of the other? And is there a dosage correlation that if you take this much slin you have to take this much HGH?

well, compare it with AS and that should make u udnerstand
lets say slin is just another strong AS for example, which u add to ur stack to make it more effective
thats all

no one said slin is useless without gh

[Figo]

Nasser begs to differ. 1994 vs. 1995

thats a huge jump in 1 year!

wow

[gh15]

take van b post,,put it with dustin post,,and you got your answers,,
what will say is true,,BUT! there is big but,,not everyone meant to be huge and be able to carry it  nicely,,remember that my friends,,its not how much you inject ,,,it is how much you can tolerate how much you injeect,,and how you respond to it ,,the best fellas respond the best for higher doses of drugs,,ofcourse its all dependent on lean muscle mass,,to  begin with you need to be true to yourself and know your LEAN MUSCLE MASS,,then have low enough body fat,,and no not saying you are 9 percent and be 14 ,,being true single digit is very important and trust me ,,a true single digit always look 10,15 pound bigger than his real size at the least!

you do need to know your body very well for insulin ,,VERY WELL,,not because you can die ,,but because you can just get fat ,,simply FAT SOFT AND USLESS,,so you do need low body fat and knowing your body well! DOET MATTERS ON HIGIH DOSES OF INSULIN!!

gh15 approved

[KevinP85]

Can I just walk into any pharmacy and get insulin without a perscription?? Let's say Humalog, correct?

[pellius]

well, compare it with AS and that should make u udnerstand
lets say slin is just another strong AS for example, which u add to ur stack to make it more effective
thats all

no one said slin is useless without gh

Anabolics promotes protein synthesis. That builds muscle. That I get. Insulin shuttles glucose into the cells to be use for energy. No matter how much you eat your body will produce enough insulin to store glucose in the cells and liver. Say you consume X amount of carbohydrates and your body produces Y amount of insulin. Great. Now say you consume the same X amount of carbohydrates and you pin whatever amount of slin that results, in combination with what your own body is producing, 10Y of insulin. So what? Same X amount of carbs? Same X amount of carbs shuttled to the cells? What's the big dealio? I just don't get it.

Now if I take insulin without carbs I can lower my blood sugar enough to stimulate a HGH response. I remember I had to take a medical test where one nurse inject insulin into one of my veins and when I pretty much began to lose consciousness they would pump dextrose into my other vein. On the chart I saw an inverse relationship between my blood sugar and HGH pulse. As blood sugar dropped HGH rose. Now that would be anabolic. Seems dangerous though. I would rather spring for the red tops.

[willl]

think bodybuilding, not mathematics
ull build more muscle

id have to add though that for most ppl, slin is not an option

[thelamefalsehood]

I still don't understand how insulin works from a bodybuilding perspective. No matter how much you eat, in a healthy person your body will produce the insulin necessary to process the carbs. I can see how injecting insulin speed up the process but so what? Why does cramming in nutrients faster make you build more muscle? And with long acting slin, you have slin always in your blood stream which just suppresses your own production. Why is that anabolic?

And why is insulin by itself virtually useless unless it is combined with HGH? What is the relationship that enhances the anabolic effect of the other? And is there a dosage correlation that if you take this much slin you have to take this much HGH?

I've used slin by itself, no AAS, no GH, nothing and I would say its not totally useless. It just seems to fill you out is all. What I really did notice though was that the days I took slin, that night after my workout I would be pissing my brains out. Like if you have ever done a keto diet, the first couple days you just piss and piss losing glycogen I believe. So, while I took the slin by itself, it would only work for a very short term fill up. With AAS, it works much better just because they(AAS) really help with glycogen retention on their own.

[Stavios]

I am waiting to get ripped then I'll start some slin again but with no higher than 3500 calories a day

I just don't how much to take.

last year I did 20 IU pre workout, 2 workout per days

it got me full as shit, but I don't know.. didn't seem like I got much "bigger" in term of new muscle mass

but if I remember well I got back with my ex around that time and maybe I started pussing out with the clean eating too.

I'll try again this year 

[nolotil]

In a nutshell it just works better than endogenous insulin. I think its similar to when you put on very new muscle for the first time, its all glycogen and easy to lose. Take advantage of the extra size that's been accumulated along with the muscular strength and endurance. That size will solidify over time and be easier to retain. Lift heavy as fuck just like you should in order to get that hard, granite like muscle.

Without other anabolics like heavy AAS and especially GH which is amazingly synergistic, you wont see much as you mentioned. Coupled with T3 which offers a myriad of synergy as well you can put on some good size and keep it after time. Slin can just bloat you if you don't have the other anabolics and don't use it consistently. You need to be lean enough to go balls to the wall otherwise it just helps with recovery. Unfortunately when you bang it hard with slin you expose yourself to more danger, but that's the only way its advantageous.

in addition to thism,, the overall cell swelling that aas and insulin causes will also send anabolic signal,, >> growth

[nolotil]

Anabolics promotes protein synthesis. That builds muscle. That I get. Insulin shuttles glucose into the cells to be use for energy. No matter how much you eat your body will produce enough insulin to store glucose in the cells and liver. Say you consume X amount of carbohydrates and your body produces Y amount of insulin. Great. Now say you consume the same X amount of carbohydrates and you pin whatever amount of slin that results, in combination with what your own body is producing, 10Y of insulin. So what? Same X amount of carbs? Same X amount of carbs shuttled to the cells? What's the big dealio? I just don't get it.

Now if I take insulin without carbs I can lower my blood sugar enough to stimulate a HGH response. I remember I had to take a medical test where one nurse inject insulin into one of my veins and when I pretty much began to lose consciousness they would pump dextrose into my other vein. On the chart I saw an inverse relationship between my blood sugar and HGH pulse. As blood sugar dropped HGH rose. Now that would be anabolic. Seems dangerous though. I would rather spring for the red tops.

calorie partitioning,, more calories goes to the muscle and grow you and less to  fat if you don't eat too much fat,,, yes overall calories still matter but partitioning ratio of muscle vs fat will improve..specially if you are naturally lean,, but with drugs can compensate to a degree even if your not naturally lean but just dieted down lean,,  this is another reason for not getting too fati n offseason,, quality is important to grow you

BF % is very important as lower BF will improve partioning of calories to muscle vs fat,,..

[tbombz]

Nasser begs to differ. 1994 vs. 1995

yes, as i said earlier, slin might be more advantageous for those who are very close to their genetic potential. at a certain point, your fighting against your body to grow bigger muscles. your body does not want to carry anm insane amount of muscle. its not good for survival. theres a ton of things going on inside a massive body that are trying to prevent growth, one of them being extremely low insulin output. this is mainly due to the extreme glycogen capacity available in huge bodybuilders, and the fact that insulin sensitivity and thus insulin levels are directly tied into glycogen levels.

, it just shuttles nutrients, makes you 'full'.  in massive 300lb monsters, and heavily muscles guys with ifbb size, then exo slin might be advantageous for a few reasons.