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GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« on: October 12, 2010, 09:18:38 PM »
God of Hormones,
(die of jealousy bastards)

When talking about some pro bodybuilders, you have previously said "They are afraid to eat without insulin".
Can you explain this? What happens when these guys eat without using insulin?
Why? Did they turn into diabetics?

Also, do professionals use insulin only when bulking up or do they use it when cutting down for a contest too (considering that they do not want to eat without insulin)

Your answers are much appreciated God of Hormones....

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2010, 09:42:55 PM »
ooh brother...these stupid questions can be answered with google. ::)

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2010, 09:49:23 PM »
you cant get the secrets of slin use from the internet - there is no protocol for slin

pros who use it ---- they use it at every meal, dose varies due to what siht they are on at the timie

eatin without slin since in order to maintain 300lbs ripped you have to take in hella calories you have to eat dirty so slin is like a schoolbus for nutrients and transports shit where it needs to go.....its also a digestive enzyme somewhat

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 12:33:58 AM »
well ill give you a decent protocol

80u long lasting morning before eating

25 to 30u fast acting with each meal including breakfast infact breakfast you can take it much higher

in contrary to beliefs, long acting is far more safe in contrast to fast


ifg u wanna get bigger, up the dosage

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 01:32:46 AM »
well ill give you a decent protocol

80u long lasting morning before eating

25 to 30u fast acting with each meal including breakfast infact breakfast you can take it much higher

in contrary to beliefs, long acting is far more safe in contrast to fast


ifg u wanna get bigger, up the dosag


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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 02:21:19 AM »
well ill give you a decent protocol

80u long lasting morning before eating

25 to 30u fast acting with each meal including breakfast infact breakfast you can take it much higher

in contrary to beliefs, long acting is far more safe in contrast to fast


ifg u wanna get bigger, up the dosage

Whatever you do, don't listen to this idiot, following his advice will either kill you or get you placed in the ER

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 02:30:38 AM »
well ill give you a decent protocol

80u long lasting morning before eating

25 to 30u fast acting with each meal including breakfast infact breakfast you can take it much higher

in contrary to beliefs, long acting is far more safe in contrast to fast


ifg u wanna get bigger, up the dosage

i suggest him to take 80iu's and then go take a nap.

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2010, 02:50:43 AM »
well ill give you a decent protocol

80u long lasting morning before eating

25 to 30u fast acting with each meal including breakfast infact breakfast you can take it much higher

in contrary to beliefs, long acting is far more safe in contrast to fast


ifg u wanna get bigger, up the dosage


isnt the rule of thumb ten grams of carbs for every unit of insulin............so this will be an meal where you eat 800g of carbohydrates (3200kcals)




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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 04:04:07 AM »
well ill tell you what

no wonder all you guys sit on less then muscular physiques all day long, wondering how they do it

u morons should learn when using slin you dont just go there at full amount directly, you build it up

second 10iu slin aint gonna do shit except ocasionannyl make you 'full' quicker

its like gh said you guys think in buying steroids couple of vials for a whole cycle
the pro's use that in days

same with slin

incredible unexperienced responses
if u r used to ir, you can take 50iu long slin and not even think about a meal before 2 hours, nothing will happen
long acting is the way to go, then add in the fast for maximum effect

gh never talks about slin becuz he doesnt want this info out but im telling it like it is
u can abuse slin without problems if u know what ur doing

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2010, 04:38:44 AM »

isnt the rule of thumb ten grams of carbs for every unit of insulin............so this will be an meal where you eat 800g of carbohydrates (3200kcals)

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The 10g/iu rule does not apply to long acting slin, as it drip feeds into the system over a period of several hours.  Long acting slin is very unlikely to induce a hypo, I have used the stuff of a morning and by lunchtime had severe vomiting and been unable to eat - never went hypo.

Willl whilst your claims of 25-30iu with every meal are a little crazy you aren't far off with a big shot of long acting and several fast spikes throughout the day.  I know people who have done 50iu lantus/20iu humalog in the morning and then 15iu humalog with ever other meal.

As for being scared to eat without it, that is simple psychological dependency, you do feel much better and fuller after eating big with high doses of slin.

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2010, 04:56:19 AM »
30 may seem much but if u rly wanna grow thats the way u go

some ppl go way beyond that


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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2010, 05:25:30 AM »
100IU right before bed without eating and you are g2g

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 06:57:50 AM »
This protocol will accomplish 1of the 3 things, or all of it:

1. You be dead
2. Become a type 2 diabetic
3. Increase your bodyfats at least20%

This moron will get some kid killed


well ill tell you what

no wonder all you guys sit on less then muscular physiques all day long, wondering how they do it

u morons should learn when using slin you dont just go there at full amount directly, you build it up

second 10iu slin aint gonna do shit except ocasionannyl make you 'full' quicker

its like gh said you guys think in buying steroids couple of vials for a whole cycle
the pro's use that in days

same with slin

incredible unexperienced responses
if u r used to ir, you can take 50iu long slin and not even think about a meal before 2 hours, nothing will happen
long acting is the way to go, then add in the fast for maximum effect

gh never talks about slin becuz he doesnt want this info out but im telling it like it is
u can abuse slin without problems if u know what ur doing

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2010, 07:30:30 AM »


This protocol will accomplish 1of the 3 things, or all of it:

1. You be dead
2. Become a type 2 diabetic
3. Increase your bodyfats at least20%

This moron will get some kid killed


Agree. I know a fair few that no.2 has happened to.

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2010, 07:39:29 AM »
none of the above

you fellas need to learn bbing from the start
you dont have aspirations to create bigger muscluar physiques thats why u dismiss reality as it is

in any case, even now that you know what to do and how to do it you will never learn and grow like your supposed to
thats why you, the masses, will never achieve anything worthwile and particularly not in bbing

good luck doing that

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2010, 07:41:21 AM »
This protocol will accomplish 1of the 3 things, or all of it:

1. You be dead
2. Become a type 2 diabetic
3. Increase your bodyfats at least20%

This moron will get some kid killed



I agree with this and feel the risk of dibetic coma for a NON-diabetis is quite real.
Having said THAT, I honestly know or fully understand why any bodybuilder would use slin to get bigger and more cut.
I know all the baqsic biochemisitry of how insulin works and see no advanatge from pouring it in unless you want to screw up your blood sugar badly

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2010, 07:42:59 AM »
none of the above

you fellas need to learn bbing from the start
you dont have aspirations to create bigger muscluar physiques thats why u dismiss reality as it is

in any case, even now that you know what to do and how to do it you will never learn and grow like your supposed to
thats why you, the masses, will never achieve anything worthwile and particularly not in bbing

good luck doing that
I admit to being somewhat ignorant about the more extreme practices in hardcore BB, ( only general drug and related info).
Perhaps you could explain to us why slin works and is needed. Thanks

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2010, 07:44:17 AM »
100IU right before bed without eating and you are g2g
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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2010, 07:56:30 AM »
allright i will answer in one sentence

slin works because it builds the muscle u so badly desire and work for

thats the why and how for ya

now, all you maggots can keep on thinking and believing that 10u of slin post workout will do the trick, i couldnt care less
if so, i really wonder why you guys aren't all mass monsters and actually know what you're talking about from 1st hand experience
but the dude asked a question about slin and my answer is the right answer no matter what u write

u have to quit thinking bbing is done on an internet board


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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2010, 08:00:02 AM »
btw i will tell you what would happen if you take 100u of long acting before bed

in within 3 hours your body will have you woken up no matter what and ask for food

this will happen several times that night untill morning


no coma no nothing, right here for niente out of the slin handbook

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 08:37:32 AM »
GH15 is busy enjoying his retirement from BB.

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 08:49:47 AM »
Why don't u post a pic of yourself and let see what kinda mass monster 100iu can create?

allright i will answer in one sentence

slin works because it builds the muscle u so badly desire and work for

thats the why and how for ya

now, all you maggots can keep on thinking and believing that 10u of slin post workout will do the trick, i couldnt care less
if so, i really wonder why you guys aren't all mass monsters and actually know what you're talking about from 1st hand experience
but the dude asked a question about slin and my answer is the right answer no matter what u write

u have to quit thinking bbing is done on an internet board



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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 08:54:12 AM »
will is right of course.


One reason bodybuilders may NEED insulin all day long is heavy GH dosing.

You can easily handle much heavier doses than many think... if you know what you're doing.

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 08:59:55 AM »
will's recommendation isnt crazy and its similar to what alot of people do. long acting is safer and works better than short acting. the combo is a little better. but slin doesnt do anything extreme. like spike said, it just shuttles nutrients, makes you 'full'.  in massive 300lb monsters, and heavily muscles guys with ifbb size, then exo slin might be advantageous for a few reasons.


sidee note: nobody use insulin unless they do a ton of research about hypoglycemia and they take in plenty of carbs during the few hours their slin is active

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Re: GH15: Please Answer This About INSULIN
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 09:56:31 AM »
Doesn't it make you fat though?