Author Topic: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia  (Read 5478 times)

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2010, 05:45:29 AM »
No, from the waist down Ronnie is in a different league in that pose


i actually dont agree,,,,,, ronnie has a littel more hanstring detail


but if you look closely, a lot of has to do with skin color, ronnie is darker, the definition is little more apparent..........but if you look close, jay has the detail too

and dont forget how much better jays calves are


just my opinion

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2010, 05:54:35 AM »
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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2010, 06:10:25 AM »
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that shows how a single screen capture of  bodybuilding event can be misleading


in a photo one guy might be realaxing for a moment, or in transition, or taking a deep breath.........and the other guy is in the middle of a pose
 

which might mislead one to believe the first guy is losing, which he might not be , its just  a moment in time

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2010, 06:44:07 AM »
from the video, Ronnie won fair and square

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2010, 06:48:19 AM »
Jay won even in back double biceps.
...Ronnies glutes are striated and hams are more shredded...total back is more defined and thick..the only knock is that ronnies arms are too forward in that pic thus making Jays properly posed arms look bigger...Ronnie wins...
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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2010, 06:56:52 AM »
Jay won even in back double biceps.

  Very hard to call. I would say Jay won in muscularity and presentation, but Ronnie was still overall superior. I have watched the video of the show, and Ronnie, even off, was so superior in aesthetics, balance and structure that he clearly won in my opinion. Ronnie is just plain genetically superior to Jay when it comes to bodybuilding.

  I believe that it's fair to say that Jay trying to beat Ronnie on lines, symmetry, balance and condiitioning doesen't work. Ronnie is just so superior at a lighter weight that there is no competition. The only way Jay could beat Ronnie would be going for size. I believe that Jay's 2006 version would beat a smaller Ronnie. Jay was huge at 278 lbs and very dry. I can see a very dry Jay at 280 lbs overwhelming a 247 lbs Ronnie, even though Ronnie would still be far superior when it comes to a bodybuilder look.

  My point is that huge Jay is not as inferior to Ronnie as little Jay is. Jay was right in trying to match Ronnie for size. Trying to be a more balanced, drier and symmetrical version of himself wouldn't work against Ronnie because Ronnie is so superior at all these categories.

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2010, 06:58:26 AM »
I'd rather have Jay's shape over Ronnie's any day of the week (no homo).

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2010, 07:23:52 AM »
Jay won even in back double biceps.
Nope....look carefully at Jay's lower back versus Ronnie's. You need to topple the champion to win in all aspects which Jay did not. Close but no cigar.

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2010, 07:52:22 AM »
That is easily the best the fridge has ever looked, but if you watch the video Ronnie still kills him.
That's also the show the fridge failed the diuretic test.

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2010, 08:09:14 AM »
i think the insulin ruined the physique

True,Its weird  even the shape of his arms (biceps)from the rear its inferior today.

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2010, 09:44:05 AM »
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not even close ronnie by a country mile in that pic
choice is an illusion

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2010, 09:52:41 AM »
That is easily the best the fridge has ever looked, but if you watch the video Ronnie still kills him.
That's also the show the fridge failed the diuretic test.
I absolutely agree.

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Re: Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2010, 09:59:46 AM »
in my completely unbiased opinion, ronnie all the way LOL
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