Jay vs Ronnie - 2001 mr.olympia

[Meso_z]

Jay won even in back double biceps.

[Aerian]

2001 really was Jay's best year.  If only he looked like that now

[~UN_$ung~]

2001 really was Jay's best year.  If only he looked like that now

i agree, he REALLY put it together that year


he came pretty close in 2009

but his sking aged a little, and now jays back is fucked up


but man he was crisp as hell in 2001 , i dont knwo why he stopped workign with Acteto

[g101]

i think the insulin ruined the physique

[~UN_$ung~]

i think the insulin ruined the physique

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he was on tons of insulin in 2001 as well


maybe the amount of time though, over time hsi body becamce harder to get into shape, got puffy cause of the slin


but in 09 he did come pretty close to 01

[g101]

but in 09 he did come pretty close to 01

because of extra tren + masteron according to gh15 

[mass243]

Jay won even in back double biceps.

You must've been smokin' sum crack this morning 

[~UN_$ung~]

You must've been smokin' sum crack this morning 

you dont see jay wining that pose?

[AbrahamG]

Jay won even in back double biceps.

BULL $HIT!

[Meso_z]

BULL $HIT!

check your eyes.

Jay appears to have better taper, tight waist even his arms are better than Ronnies in that pose.

[Parker]

check your eyes.

Jay appears to have better taper, tight waist even his arms are better than Ronnies in that pose.

Ronnie=better arms, back detail, even a X-mas tree
Jay=more wrinkles in his lower back than a bassett hound's face.

[devilsmile]

it was jays best year and he had to kill himself to be even comparable to ronnie.

But ronnie wone EASILY!

What ronnie gets more naturally due to his bodystructure and epic black genetics Jay has to almost dry his kidneys to even look upon ronnie from below, and even then jay has wider waist and wrinkly lower back.... superior white genetics  

And look at those legs, ronnie's looks like daemond detail crispyness. Unlike Jay.

Fact.

[nzmusclemonster]

Look at it from the waist down (no homo)...... its not even a contest, Ronnie is in a different class to Jay.

[Meso_z]

If you have actually competed, which i doubt, you should notice that Jay isnt contracting his hamstrings and glutes completely in order for the striations to appear.

[nzmusclemonster]

If you have actually competed, which i doubt, you should notice that Jay isnt contracting his hamstrings and glutes completely in order for the striations to appear.

So you're saying Jay hasn't done enough posing practice and thus loses out on the pose. Thank you for agreeing with me 

Oh, and I've been in 6 bodybuilding comps including Nationals and placed top 2 every time. Thanks for playing 

[Meso_z]

So you're saying Jay hasn't done enough posing practice and thus loses out on the pose. Thank you for agreeing with me 

Oh, and I've been in 6 bodybuilding comps including Nationals and placed top 2 every time. Thanks for playing 

I was right then... since you know about competing. 

[nzmusclemonster]

I was right then... since you know about competing. 

He's obviously too unfit to hold his poses.... Ronnie for the win. Branch thinks bad posers are pussies. Branch for the win.

[hench]

Jays back upper back looks harder and better detail. Can hardly call that a christmas tree on Ronnies lower back, just looks glossy and smooth and jays is just as bad if not worse with wrinkles.

[Parker]

If you have actually competed, which i doubt, you should notice that Jay isnt contracting his hamstrings and glutes completely in order for the striations to appear.

And Ronnie hasn't fully brought his arms down, contracting the back

[WillGrant]

A moment caught in time , photos do no justice to the competitors.People that were there see it all.
I was still buying the mags back then and they all said Jay was robbed that year 

[JasonH]

Jay wins that pose hands down. The photo is deceptive because will Will Grant says above - it was caught in time - a fraction later and you would have also seen Jay contracting his glutes and hams which would have brought him into line with Ronnie.

To be honest, Ronnie was gifted a few Olympias in his time, 98 was one of them, then was another. Levrone arguably beat him as well one of the years.

[Parker]

Jay wins that pose hands down. The photo is deceptive because will Will Grant says above - it was caught in time - a fraction later and you would have also seen Jay contracting his glutes and hams which would have brought him into line with Ronnie.

To be honest, Ronnie was gifted a few Olympias in his time, 98 was one of them, then was another. Levrone arguably beat him as well one of the years.

Ronnie has the superior back, glutes, hams...Jay has a decent back, but has tons of wrinkles in the lower back...if things were reversed, it would have gone to Jay...fact is, Ronnie is expected to have a superior back, so anything less than stellar, is a lose in most books...Ronnie was never "knocked out" in any Mr. O he won...Jay on the other hand was...

1998, Ronnie won hands down over Flex, Flex didin't come in his 98 Arnold shape, which killed his chances....you lose credibility in saying that Ronnie was gifted 98's win, even Milos, Levrone, Flex and Nasser  agree that Ronnie won hands down. 

[#1 Klaus fan]

A moment caught in time , photos do no justice to the competitors.People that were there see it all.
I was still buying the mags back then and they all said Jay was robbed that year  

You are right. That pic has 0.33 megapixels. A human eye can see with a definition of 100's of megapixels. I don't know if you can compare the two like this but there's a clear difference.

[mass243]

you dont see jay wining that pose?

No I don't.

[The Wizard of Truth]

you dont see jay wining that pose?

No, from the waist down Ronnie is in a different league in that pose