Gorilla Protein: Reason Why Gorillas Are So Huge Despite Eating Little Protein.

[Benito Mutumbo]

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[sean]

 Where have I claimed that a baby needs more protein in absolute terms than an adult? Show me...my point is that you don't need a lot of protein to build new muscle, since a baby builds up to two pounds of new tissue a week eating about 10 grams of protein a day. How do you explain that it can build so much new muscle, organ and connective tissue with so little protein? Riddle me that?

  Suppose that you need 0.3 grams to maintain nitrogen balance, like most of the scientific studies suggest, and that a 5 lbs baby gets 10 grams of protein from mother's milk a day. That means it is using 1.5 of the grams of protein to maintain it's current body mass, and it is building those 2 lbs of new tissue in a week from 8.5 grams of excess protein a day. So this means that a 180 lbs male needs 68.5 grams of protein a day to gain two pounds of lean muscle a week.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Dude.. just post you pics of yourself 12 months after maintaining the same intensity level of training at 0.30g of protein/1lb bodyweight (that'd be 60g for a 180lb guy) and we'll see what you're looking like. You may look "lean" because of starvation, but I'll bet your muscles will be "water soft" like most the comparititive black subjects metioned in this thread

[sean]

I'd like to also add that humans have exceeded other species due to our massive dome and its intelligence, not our brute strength and size. As I tell people all the time; we're fighting nature in our quest for size and strength. True survival situations dont generally benefit the "lean and ripped" out there, but the small and slightly fat. So eat train heavy and hard and eat your protein if you want exceptional mass. To go about this otherwise is just futile and a waste of time. Unless of course you "natually have it" then forget what I just said.

[suckmymuscle]

My point is that animals are at a natural advantage over human beings regardless of protein intake. Human beings can only increase the size of their muscles. Animals can generate new muscle cells. It is because of this difference in physiology that no human being ( even juiced to the gills) will ever equal a gorilla in size or strength. Have you ever seen a gorilla eat chicken or steak? Gorillas eat bananas and receive sustenance from plants and other low protein sources. Little to no protein intake = Gorilla's are still massive beasts

  George, you are intelligent and I respect you. Listen to me. I am not arguing that gorillas have much bigger muscles than Human because they are genetically superior for building muscle than Humans. My point is that the amount of protein needed to make a new pound of muscle in a gorilla is the same in the Human. The mechanism doesen't matter. That is, if 1 gram of protein per pound of muscle were required to maintain that muscle mass and build more, then the gorilla wouldn't be able to build muscle despite it's genetics since it doesen't get that much protein from it's diet of leaves, oat and bark. If that is what is required to build muscle and you gave a Human that amount and the gorilla less, than the Human would gain muscle and the gorilla would lose muscle despite it's much better genetics for muscle gain. The reason why the gorilla has much bigger muscles than the Human is because it has genes that code for more synthesis of protein than the Human, and not because the gorilla utilizes protein more efficiently and thus can get more from less. The amount of protein needed to maintain and build muscle is not affected by genetics. So if a gorilla can build that 500 lbs muscular physique with about 0.25 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, then a Human should have no problem building a 250 lbs muscular physique or as big as his genetics will allow on the same protein intake.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[lvtolft]

  George, you are intelligent and I respect you. Listen to me. I am not arguing that gorillas have much bigger muscles than Human because they are genetically superior for building muscle than Humans. My point is that the amount of protein needed to make a new pound of muscle in a gorilla is the same in the Human. The mechanism doesen't matter. That is, if 1 gram of protein per pound of muscle were required to maintain that muscle mass and build more, then the gorilla wouldn't be able to build muscle despite it's genetics since it doesen't get that much protein from it's diet of leaves, oat and bark. If that is what is required to build muscle and you gave a Human that amount and the gorilla less, than the Human would gain muscle and the gorilla would lose muscle despite it's much better genetics for muscle gain. The reason why the gorilla has much bigger muscles than the Human is because it has genes that code for more synthesis of protein than the Human, and not because the gorilla utilizes protein more efficiently and thus can get more from less. The amount of protein needed to maintain and build muscle is not affected by genetics. So if a gorilla can build that 500 lbs muscular physique with about 0.25 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, then a Human should have no problem building a 250 lbs muscular physique or as big as his genetics will allow on the same protein intake.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I would like to see someone do this.  Until then, it is just hard to believe.

[HTexan]

gorilla protein, straight from the tap?

[suckmymuscle]

gorilla protein, straight from the tap?

  Epic projection of his own homosexuality.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[HTexan]

  Epic projection of his own homosexuality.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

so youre saying youre not gay if tho you get you protein straight for the tap?

[King Shizzo]

  George, you are intelligent and I respect you. Listen to me. I am not arguing that gorillas have much bigger muscles than Human because they are genetically superior for building muscle than Humans. My point is that the amount of protein needed to make a new pound of muscle in a gorilla is the same in the Human. The mechanism doesen't matter. That is, if 1 gram of protein per pound of muscle were required to maintain that muscle mass and build more, then the gorilla wouldn't be able to build muscle despite it's genetics since it doesen't get that much protein from it's diet of leaves, oat and bark. If that is what is required to build muscle and you gave a Human that amount and the gorilla less, than the Human would gain muscle and the gorilla would lose muscle despite it's much better genetics for muscle gain. The reason why the gorilla has much bigger muscles than the Human is because it has genes that code for more synthesis of protein than the Human, and not because the gorilla utilizes protein more efficiently and thus can get more from less. The amount of protein needed to maintain and build muscle is not affected by genetics. So if a gorilla can build that 500 lbs muscular physique with about 0.25 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, then a Human should have no problem building a 250 lbs muscular physique or as big as his genetics will allow on the same protein intake.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

So what you are trying to say is that Gorillas have better Genetics to create muscle mass off of a limited protein diet compared to humans.   No shit Sherlock 

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I'm beginning to think that genetics is the biggest component.  Pros can handle the gear necessary to grow as much as they do.  And response to gear is genetic.  Response to gear, structure, muscle attachment sites, etc, are all genetic.  

Is Ronnie really out there doing anything fancy to maintain his size?  My guess is that he just eats more or less like a normal person with an extra shake or two thrown in and trains for fun.

I think we all have a friend or two who maintains pretty good size and seemingly follows no special diet at all but know other friends who follow bodybuilding rules to the letter with exactly X grams of protein per day [based on body weight] and yet don't have much size.  I think if you follow the big picture by training hard and eating right you will grow as your genetics allow.  Following the exact details to the letter I'm not sure make much of a difference unless you are literally weeks or days out from a show when little details start to matter a lot more.

Ronnie eats out 3 times a day. And people that see him say he always orders two steaks or two large chicken breast etc. So two steaks alone is usually close to 2 pounds of beef. And if hes doing this 3 times a day? Thats upwards of 6 pounds of meat in only 3 meals. He like most pros don't drink shakes. They drink liquid egg whites.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I would like to see someone do this.  Until then, it is just hard to believe.

Humans have a hard time breaking down a lot of the regular food they eat. I'm guessing the human intestinal tract is many years away from breaking down hundreds of pounds of tree bark.

[Kulutues]

Many inner-city black youths eat that.  They also eat noodles with mayonnaise, rice with ketchup and chicken noodle soup with a coke on the side.

Growing up in the inner city exposed me to many hidden recipes for GOOD food.

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If you want to know the diet of the greatest football/basketball athletes we have seen, mostly southern U.S. black males, it consists of collard greens, Kool aid drinks, sweet potatoes (much of it in pie form), and fried chickens

[drmarkp]

For the most part you do only need moderate protein. Carbs and (healthy) fats are also very important.

A few things will make a difference- enhanced protein synthesis due to training or drug usage, enhanced nitrogen retention (again from steroids) and genetics.

Basically a natural doesn't really need more than 1 gram per lb of bodyweight. On enough juice 2 grams and up to 3 can be utilized...

Quote from Chuck Sipes - "Why do you think horses are so big and muscular, eating all that grain."

[suckmymuscle]

So what you are trying to say is that Gorillas have better Genetics to create muscle mass off of a limited protein diet compared to humans.   No shit Sherlock.

  The irony is lost on me. What I am saying is that gorillas and Humans will become as big as they can on the same 0.25 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight a day. So all a Human need to get as big as he can is this amount of protein, and eating more won't foster greater gains.

SUCKMYMUSCLE