gh15 what do you think of franco.

[Figo]

He had no reason to lie- he was long retired, he already had known me 7 years and was no longer even my trainer and didnt want anything. 

the fact that he was long retired is the exact reason WHY HE WOULD LIE. because in his day weider would say play down the aas use in the mags, its because of the weider lifestyle they have such great physiques, lives, and read chaucer in their spare time, when not helping at the orphanage

to their buddies, or people in their circle, of course it was open, who cares, BUT, when steroids were no longer p.c. , post 82, especially 90's - then everybody jumped on the anti drug wagon, "it was a finishing touch, I only did it to be competitive cause I heard they were doing", I train fucking 5 hrs a day, cmon... joe weider made my meal plan... please

it doesnt matter wether he was your best friend or married to you, people lie, bodybuilders always lie bout their cycles, to seem otherwordly to normal joe, and to deceive the competition. when theyre retired, its to uphold the mystique, and seem holier than thou.
does not matter what their name is, oliva, scott, reeves, park, robby, pearl, just because you saw them in black & white pics, and they said so, means jack

to re-iterate: as much as I love that era of bbing, it was a different era, but same kind of people as today, anything to get ahead, abuse whatever available

[Kulutues]

Why do retired pros always say they have no reason to lie about dosages...yes, it's in everyone's interest to make themselves appear better.  This is what everyone in the industry basically does.  Bodybuilding utilitarianism.

Even if a pro were telling the truth about these things it would be suspect information unless verifiable.  Not that I care.  People should do to themselves what they please, and face the consequences.  But the little truth in bodybuilding is nothing new.

[gh15]

hormones is a very big deal in sports and in bodybuilding,, it is the sin that no one talk about but everyone do ...you know whats the worst thing as bodybuild? the worst thing is to face the fact you are addict,, and can never go off,,this is the worst thing...moment you go off and lets say skip injection....even by few days...you feel it oh you fuckin feel it

also,,the doses...the doses are real crazy ,, you got the best cook reallt stuff the vials with lots of mg...they really good at what they do ,,only if you took 500mg of legit equipona you know what im talking about,, it is so strong that chages happn fast

the main problem of fellas now day is ....that they get equipona it says 250mg per cc but in reality its 50% paste...and that thing is also dosed in reality at 200mg per cc...so you get at the end 100mg per cc of equipona...you inject it 2 time a week think you get 500 or 600 while you get only 200....THIS! is the problem ...back then you took injection of 50mg per cc it was 50 mg of the best kind quipona per cc...you took 350-500mg a week of quality eq it was like taking now 1000-1200mg of equipna ....thats! the diff!

gh15 approved

[Figo]

so if you think bout it, with todays fakes and dillutions, the guys are at times taking less...? !

[luvvsuNOT]

Why do retired pros always say they have no reason to lie about dosages...yes, it's in everyone's interest to make themselves appear better.  This is what everyone in the industry basically does.  Bodybuilding utilitarianism.

Even if a pro were telling the truth about these things it would be suspect information unless verifiable.  Not that I care.  People should do to themselves what they please, and face the consequences.  But the little truth in bodybuilding is nothing new.

x2
Mike lied for the same reason everybody lies. Same reason groink lies. "Okamis good but if I was on as much shit as hes on...."

When sonmebody says that the reason he put on x pounds of muscle was because he upped the dose of HGH/insulina they dont seem so great. It makes you think that if you just took more drugs you could bet biggger too. And you'd be right. gh15 is goning to heaven for atoning for his past sins. We know better now and spread his gospel. Also we take more hormonas and get bigger.

[luvvsuNOT]

hormones is a very big deal in sports and in bodybuilding,, it is the sin that no one talk about but everyone do ...you know whats the worst thing as bodybuild? the worst thing is to face the fact you are addict,, and can never go off,,this is the worst thing...moment you go off and lets say skip injection....even by few days...you feel it oh you fuckin feel it

also,,the doses...the doses are real crazy ,, you got the best cook reallt stuff the vials with lots of mg...they really good at what they do ,,only if you took 500mg of legit equipona you know what im talking about,, it is so strong that chages happn fast

the main problem of fellas now day is ....that they get equipona it says 250mg per cc but in reality its 50% paste...and that thing is also dosed in reality at 200mg per cc...so you get at the end 100mg per cc of equipona...you inject it 2 time a week think you get 500 or 600 while you get only 200....THIS! is the problem ...back then you took injection of 50mg per cc it was 50 mg of the best kind quipona per cc...you took 350-500mg a week of quality eq it was like taking now 1000-1200mg of equipna ....thats! the diff!

gh15 approved

Superman equipona better be good.

[gh15]

Superman equipona better be good.

anything superman is good,, if he doesnt hav egood no one else does,, its hard to get good quality equipona now day ,, but not immposible

gh15 approved

[g101]

Superman equipona better be good.

lol.... if superman is no good then no source is good

[gh15]

x2
Mike lied for the same reason everybody lies. Same reason groink lies. "Okamis good but if I was on as much shit as hes on...."

When sonmebody says that the reason he put on x pounds of muscle was because he upped the dose of HGH/insulina they dont seem so great. It makes you think that if you just took more drugs you could bet biggger too. And you'd be right. gh15 is goning to heaven for atoning for his past sins. We know better now and spread his gospel. Also we take more hormonas and get bigger.

worst thing is twister,, the coach fella from this boarding,, he is a twister! of the truth ,, he is really stands there as what you call selective choicer...you know like you hav eselective scammer sources? lol twister is something else,,

he actualy tell you fellas he steped on stage 190lb+! at 5'6 thats more than most 5'6 fellas that turn pros! like dex jackson in national was 185!! and many others are less in the 80s and 70s... but he actually tell you kidos this all is on 250mg testosterona and some bazooka gums ,,really he take it to worse level than canadican geezer vince...its like he admit over all but really absolit twist the numbers and products,,

EVERYTHING ON TWISTER PHYSIQE POINT TO GH AND INSULINA USAGE ,, NOT HIGH DOSES! BUT NICE DOSES,, AND ALL OF US PROFESIONALS WHEN WE TALK AMONG US WE LAUGH OUR ASS,, SOME PROFESIONALS ARE GIMIK ACCOUNT HERE AND WE JUST SIT AND LAUGH AT TWISTER...THAT FELLA HAS INSULINA IN LOWER DOSES AND HGH ...THAT! WHAT GOT HIM TO 190+ ON STAGE ...LOL NOT AAS...AAS GOT HIM TO 170 TO 180...WHAT GOT HIM UP THERE TO THE 190 WAS LOW LEVEL INSULINA AND HGH AT MID SINGLE DOSES,,

he really twist the truth ,, he will say he took 2 iu when he took 4-6 iu ...he will say he took no insulina when he took insulina and this is how he found out the insulina kill lines and make you bloofy from within as in low bodyfat on the out but fatzo on the inside of the muscle,, thats how he decided insulina killed bodybuild...HE FUCKIN DID IT ON HIMSELF! ,,

5'6 190+lb on stage with out insulina and hgh lol ....you got top national fellas in 20003-2005 going on stage 210lb 5'9 walking offseason 260lb 9% ....lol on so much insulina and hgh you would scare to even look at them and talk to them they look like monsters outside gym,,yet all fake muscle ofcousre....then shrink down to 210 on stage 205-210 lol down from 260 9% LOL this is ofcourse all fat from within the muscle they never saw the lines well enough and just had to diet down more and more in hope they would but they didnt ,,,FAKE SIZE!

coach 190 5'6 ON STAGE lol  on some 200mg testosterona cyp hrt lol and 1 anadrola a day lol ,,

i really am ashamed to be among them on a board i really do it for new generation here and nothing else,, fuckin retard did everything from trenbolona to insulina and inbetween ,, lol 1905'6 on stage ... thats like arnold  240-245 lb in top condition on stage lol ....our twister here is the second coming of arnold lol ,,,amazing the shit the balonie i hear here,,

gh15 approved

[whitewidow]

you really dont know anything about training eh?,, how did they give you certificate ? branch waren is prime exampel of all drugs ,, he doesnt even begin! to look like a serious fella,, he is drugs that result in high like narcotics that create the type of training he does which ofcourse doesnt do nothing aside from injurry,, there is how we used to train the big boys back then quietly lifting heavy ...and then there is this gizmo who walk with chains and really dont train the muscle,,

branch waren is maybe the worst! when it come to training ,, the worst!

gh15 approved

I actually agree for once. branch is just going to wind up hurt

[whitewidow]

hormones is a very big deal in sports and in bodybuilding,, it is the sin that no one talk about but everyone do ...you know whats the worst thing as bodybuild? the worst thing is to face the fact you are addict,, and can never go off,,this is the worst thing...moment you go off and lets say skip injection....even by few days...you feel it oh you fuckin feel it

also,,the doses...the doses are real crazy ,, you got the best cook reallt stuff the vials with lots of mg...they really good at what they do ,,only if you took 500mg of legit equipona you know what im talking about,, it is so strong that chages happn fast

the main problem of fellas now day is ....that they get equipona it says 250mg per cc but in reality its 50% paste...and that thing is also dosed in reality at 200mg per cc...so you get at the end 100mg per cc of equipona...you inject it 2 time a week think you get 500 or 600 while you get only 200....THIS! is the problem ...back then you took injection of 50mg per cc it was 50 mg of the best kind quipona per cc...you took 350-500mg a week of quality eq it was like taking now 1000-1200mg of equipna ....thats! the diff!

true its hard to find good raw materials to make EQ but the alpha pharma EQ is pretty spot on not like british dragon where it was labeled at 200mg and it tested at 136mg. finding good eq before alpha pharma was very hard.

gh15 approved

[whitewidow]

Very hard to find high purity boldenone(EQ) raw material. you have to talk to euroman he has the best equipoise in the world. british dragon used to dosse its eq at 200mg and it was always more like 135mg. also not safe making high mg EQ they dose it at 200mg for a reason. the worst iss boldenone acetate stay far away from that trash. euroman EQ is tested and spot on

[StanZoLOL]

the fact that he was long retired is the exact reason WHY HE WOULD LIE. because in his day weider would say play down the aas use in the mags, its because of the weider lifestyle they have such great physiques, lives, and read chaucer in their spare time, when not helping at the orphanage

lol

[Stavios]

you did BFT?? Did you post on Trevor's board""

nope I just saw an article of him explaining his training methode.

I loved it, especially for legs more than anything else.

but seriously it fucked up my knees

[Coach is Back!]

worst thing is twister,, the coach fella from this boarding,, he is a twister! of the truth ,, he is really stands there as what you call selective choicer...you know like you hav eselective scammer sources? lol twister is something else,,

he actualy tell you fellas he steped on stage 190lb+! at 5'6 thats more than most 5'6 fellas that turn pros! like dex jackson in national was 185!! and many others are less in the 80s and 70s... but he actually tell you kidos this all is on 250mg testosterona and some bazooka gums ,,really he take it to worse level than canadican geezer vince...its like he admit over all but really absolit twist the numbers and products,,

EVERYTHING ON TWISTER PHYSIQE POINT TO GH AND INSULINA USAGE ,, NOT HIGH DOSES! BUT NICE DOSES,, AND ALL OF US PROFESIONALS WHEN WE TALK AMONG US WE LAUGH OUR ASS,, SOME PROFESIONALS ARE GIMIK ACCOUNT HERE AND WE JUST SIT AND LAUGH AT TWISTER...THAT FELLA HAS INSULINA IN LOWER DOSES AND HGH ...THAT! WHAT GOT HIM TO 190+ ON STAGE ...LOL NOT AAS...AAS GOT HIM TO 170 TO 180...WHAT GOT HIM UP THERE TO THE 190 WAS LOW LEVEL INSULINA AND HGH AT MID SINGLE DOSES,,

he really twist the truth ,, he will say he took 2 iu when he took 4-6 iu ...he will say he took no insulina when he took insulina and this is how he found out the insulina kill lines and make you bloofy from within as in low bodyfat on the out but fatzo on the inside of the muscle,, thats how he decided insulina killed bodybuild...HE FUCKIN DID IT ON HIMSELF! ,,

5'6 190+lb on stage with out insulina and hgh lol ....you got top national fellas in 20003-2005 going on stage 210lb 5'9 walking offseason 260lb 9% ....lol on so much insulina and hgh you would scare to even look at them and talk to them they look like monsters outside gym,,yet all fake muscle ofcousre....then shrink down to 210 on stage 205-210 lol down from 260 9% LOL this is ofcourse all fat from within the muscle they never saw the lines well enough and just had to diet down more and more in hope they would but they didnt ,,,FAKE SIZE!

coach 190 5'6 ON STAGE lol  on some 200mg testosterona cyp hrt lol and 1 anadrola a day lol ,,

i really am ashamed to be among them on a board i really do it for new generation here and nothing else,, fuckin retard did everything from trenbolona to insulina and inbetween ,, lol 1905'6 on stage ... thats like arnold  240-245 lb in top condition on stage lol ....our twister here is the second coming of arnold lol ,,,amazing the shit the balonie i hear here,,

gh15 approved

LMAO.....Hhahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha.

This gimmick is cluuuuuless. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha!

And you SUCKERS actually fall for his shit. Hahaha.

[Secret Stack]

never understood it, but typing your laugh in a word is a sign of defeat.
a little "haha" is ok in replacement of the "lol", but when you type that many times pressing the letters "h" and "a", you're really just wearing a "sheild" because what someone has said has hit home to you so you try your best to make them feel dumb..."look how long i am laughing on internet mode..i cant stop, im going on forever"
exact same style as groink when a true legitimate question arises about his usage.

"hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha"

really? cos i just felt dumb as hell doing that ^ above.

GH15 answered in great detail. Actual real comparisons there making everyone get a visual as to what 190lb @ 5'6 looks like comparing it to people we know and their heights ie; dexter jackson and arnie and we all know what it took for them to reach those numbers in the same comparisons to the ones you were claiming. very detailed reply by gh15....

....but then look at your reply. how old are you? "hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha"

"look how long i am laughing at your post with no explaination"

you now come off as the defeated one.

[dj181]

never understood it, but typing your laugh in a word is a sign of defeat.
a little "haha" is ok in replacement of the "lol", but when you type that many times pressing the letters "h" and "a", you're really just wearing a "sheild" because what someone has said has hit home to you so you try your best to make them feel dumb..."look how long i am laughing on internet mode..i cant stop, im going on forever"
exact same style as groink when a true legitimate question arises about his usage.

"hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha"

really? cos i just felt dumb as hell doing that ^ above.

GH15 answered in great detail. Actual real comparisons there making everyone get a visual as to what 190lb @ 5'6 looks like comparing it to people we know and their heights ie; dexter jackson and arnie and we all know what it took for them to reach those numbers in the same comparisons to the ones you were claiming. very detailed reply by gh15....

....but then look at your reply. how old are you? "hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha"

"look how long i am laughing at your post with no explaination"

you now come off as the defeated one.

FACT

[apply85]

A lot of people do that hahaha or the LOL thing in inappropriate times... like we all know you'r not really laughing at the computer, and if you are you're insane...

[Schmoe Buster]

The twister is a retarded midget

[luvvsuNOT]

The twister is a retarded midget

gh15 has been on this board for what? six years? And twister still calls him a gimmick. I think coach is basically a good guy but he is so out of his league when going head to head with gh15. He should just accept the fact that gh15 thinks he stretchs and twists the truth and live with it. He shouldnt care som much what gh15 thinks about him becasue when he gets into it with him he always comes out looking bad.

Your a successful businessman twister. You dont have to keep defending yourself. Just let it go. I feel bad for you when you come across as a dunce.