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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2010, 06:28:24 AM »
"I think," "I'll probably . . . ."  Still leaving herself room to run. 

What's next for Clinton?
By: CNN's Gabriella Schwarz

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton is adamant that she's not running for president in 2012, but she's now saying that being secretary of state will be her last job in government.

"I think I'll serve as secretary of state as my last public position," Clinton said Friday at an event in Bahrain. "Then (I'll) probably go back to advocacy work, particularly on behalf of women and children, and particularly around the world."

At the event with local college students, she again said she will not launch a challenge to President Barack Obama, but the comments mark the first time she's elaborated on her plans for the future.

The former first lady and New York senator, faced off with Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008 before becoming his chief diplomat.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/03/whats-next-for-clinton/#more-138032
I doubt that, she'll probably run again down the road

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2010, 06:45:13 AM »
I doubt that, she'll probably run again down the road

She has a very small window of opportunity, so down the road has to be either 2012 or at the very latest 2016. 

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2010, 06:46:16 AM »
She has a very small window of opportunity, so down the road has to be either 2012 or at the very latest 2016. 



My CT side f me says she knows far mre damaging info is abot to hit from wikileak and she knows she is finished.   

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2010, 07:03:30 AM »


My CT side f me says she knows far mre damaging info is abot to hit from wikileak and she knows she is finished.   

Perhaps. 

On the other hand, with Obama being so wounded she has as good a chance as anyone to make a strong primary challenge. 

I do find it strange that he hasn't spoken on this issue yet.  Maybe he is intentionally letting her twist in the wind? 

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2010, 07:04:37 AM »
Perhaps. 

On the other hand, with Obama being so wounded she has as good a chance as anyone to make a strong primary challenge. 

I do find it strange that he hasn't spoken on this issue yet.  Maybe he is intentionally letting her twist in the wind? 

I think a guy like Howard Dean would play well in a primary. 

I may not agree on issues wuith him, but you always know whre you stand with him. 

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2010, 07:05:32 AM »
I think a guy like Howard Dean would play well in a primary. 

I may not agree on issues wuith him, but you always know whre you stand with him. 

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2010, 07:07:00 AM »
I think a guy like Howard Dean would play well in a primary. 

I may not agree on issues wuith him, but you always know whre you stand with him. 

I think he's done.  The scream did him in. 

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2010, 07:07:20 AM »
Yeeeeee......haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2011, 10:38:35 AM »
Clinton: ‘Below zero’ chance at challenging Obama
By: CNN's Dan Merica

Washington (CNN) - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says there is a "below zero" chance that she will challenge President Barack Obama for the presidency in 2012.

In an interview with CNN's Alison Kosik on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, the former senator from New York said she is happy with her current job.

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"One of the great things about being Secretary of State is I am out of politics," Clinton said. "I have a big job to do and I am honored to do it everyday."

When Kosik asked if she would ever get back into politics, Clinton said she had the same feelings.

"I don't think so. I think I am going to stay focused on doing what I can to make sure that we continue to lead the world," Clinton said.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney, possibly in an attempt to needle Democrats, said in a recent interview with ABC News that it was "not a bad idea" for Clinton to challenge Obama.

"I am not interested in being drawn back into it [politics] by anybody," said Clinton.

In the past, Clinton has also indicated that she would like secretary of state to be last her job in government.

"I think I'll serve as secretary of state as my last public position," Clinton said at a 2010 event in Bahrain. "Then (I'll) probably go back to advocacy work, particularly on behalf of women and children, and particularly around the world."

She told CNN’s Wolf Blizter earlier this year that if the president is re-elected she does not want to serve a second term.

Clinton and Obama fought well into overtime in a historic battle for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination. Since then there have been rumors that Clinton might want to primary challenge Obama in 2012, but she has consistently knocked down such talk.

–CNN's Gabriella Schwarz contributed to this report

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/09/clinton-‘below-zero’-chance-at-challenging-obama/

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2011, 10:53:42 AM »
Poll: Americans optimistic about Hillary Clinton presidency
By: CNN Producer Gabriella Schwarz

(CNN) - She lost the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, but over a third of Americans said the U.S. would be better off now if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were president, according to a new poll.

The Bloomberg survey released Friday showed 34 percent of those questioned said America would be superior under a Hillary Clinton administration, while 47 percent said it would be about the same and 13 percent said it would be worse.

A quarter of respondents held similar wishful thoughts in a July poll.

Clinton remains the most popular American political figure with nearly two-thirds of Americans holding a favorable view of the former first lady and New York senator. Half of the respondents felt the same way about President Barack Obama, who received the lowest job approval rating of his presidency, at 45 percent.

Clinton has said publicly she will not seek elected office after her four-year term as America's top diplomat ends in 2012, shooting down speculation she might run for president in the future.

On the Republican side of the aisle, presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Rick Perry grabbed the top spots among Republican and Republican-leaning independent voters when asked who they would choose next election. The two were also among the most likeable in the GOP field, among all Americans.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Romney received a 42 percent favorability rating while rivals Texas Gov. Perry and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas garnered 32 percent. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich received a 28 percent rating and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who is still mulling a bid for the White House, came in at 26 percent.

When asked who they would vote for in 2012, 29 percent said they would definitely vote for Obama, 43 percent said they would definitely vote for another candidate and 21 percent said they would consider voting for another candidate.

The poll surveyed 997 adults between Sept. 9 and Sept. 12 with a sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/16/poll-americans-optimistic-about-hillary-clinton-presidency/?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2011, 10:55:26 AM »
The Demo marxist pofs primary voters are solely to blame for this mess. 

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2011, 10:59:09 AM »
The Demo marxist pofs primary voters are solely to blame for this mess. 

Hey Comrade,

if you've got a problem with democracy then move to China

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2011, 11:00:00 AM »
Hey Comrade,

if you've got a problem with democracy then move to China

You douchebags could have voted for Hillary and avoided this disaster.

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2011, 11:03:33 AM »
You douchebags could have voted for Hillary and avoided this disaster.

that's how democracy works

if you don't like it then feel free to leave

otherwise STFU

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2011, 11:06:49 AM »
Obama Lost the Jews, Hillary Clinton is Next
The Root Rant ^ | 9/14/2011 | Wayne Root


By Wayne Allyn Root, Former Libertarian Vice Presidential Nominee





It’s all over for Mr. Obama. He is a one-term President, destined to go down in the record books as the man who presided over a second Great Depression, the destruction of the middle class, and the loss of America’s Triple A credit rating. The proof is found in the historic, almost unimaginable, GOP victory in Anthony Weiner’s old Congressional district in Queens. Yes, I said Queens- as in New York City. Heavily Democratic, heavily liberal Jewish, Queens, New York. The center of blue-collar white Democratic Party power. Republican Bob Turner pulled off one of the biggest upsets in U.S. political history there last night. He became the first Republican elected from this heavily Jewish Democratic Queens, NY district since 1923.

There are no excuses. In a district that is 40% Jewish and filled with Orthodox Jews, a 70-year old Catholic Republican upset a Orthodox Jewish Democrat from a prominent Queens political family. Democrats pulled out every stop. Big labor campaigned day and night for the Democrat. Former President Bill Clinton and popular New York Governor Andrew Cuomo lent their voices to get-out-the-vote robo-calls to Democratic voters. And none of it mattered. The Jews have abandoned Obama.

The average voter doesn’t understand the “inside Baseball” of politics. But here is the “Monarch Notes” of the GOP’s historic victory. First, the anger of white middle class voters towards Obama is boiling over across the country. If Obama has lost Jewish support in Queens, he’s lost support from white middle class voters everywhere. Second, Obama’s mishandling of the economy is destroying the middle class, and even lifelong Democrats in Queens, NY are feeling the pain (and clearly seeing Obama’s incompetence). But this picture is incomplete.

Here’s the big reason for this historic GOP victory that few outside New York understand: This race really was about much more than the economy or jobs. Sure those issues were a constant backdrop. But in the end, it was about common sense issues for Jewish voters: Israel and the Mosque at Ground Zero. Jewish voters are outraged at how Obama has treated Israel; disgusted with Obama’s support of the Palestinians, led by terror groups; and shocked by the support of both Obama and the losing Democratic Congressional candidate for the Mosque at Ground Zero.

The heroes of this once-in-a-century historic upset are former New York Mayor Ed Koch and the Republican Jewish Coalition, both of whom worked hard to spread one simple but powerful message to Jewish voters: “Send a message to Obama that Israel is America’s best friend, and you do not accept the way Obama has treated Israel.” The Jewish voters of Queens were told by Koch and the Republican Jewish Coalition that there was only one way to send this message- elect a Republican Congressman for the first time in modern history.

Message sent. Game. Set. Match.

But it wasn’t just Obama who heard the message. It was Hillary Clinton too. Hillary now knows Obama is weak and vulnerable…among Democrats. And among Jewish Democrats who have loyally voted Democrat their entire lifetimes. If the Jews have abandoned Obama, turn out the lights and close the door behind this President.

This political pundit predicted on Fox News Channel over 18 months ago that Hillary Clinton would challenge and defeat President Obama in a Presidential primary in 2012, once voters experienced the carnage wreckage of the economy under a socialist President. I believe Hillary is weighing her options at this very moment. She now knows that blue-collar white Democratic voters across America have broken with Obama. The Jews are the final straw that broke the camel’s back. It is now clear that in places filled with white blue-collar voters- like Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Texas- Hillary could defeat Obama in a Presidential primary- just as I predicted 18 months ago.

Only one thing is holding Hillary back from a decision to jump into the race. I believe she is concerned with political strategy. She now knows she can defeat Obama in a Democratic primary. Her only concern is the loss of black voters for the general election. If black voters see Hillary as a back-stabber of their beloved Obama, and sit on their hands for the 2012 general election, Hillary cannot possibly defeat her Republican opponent. That is the debate now raging in Hillary’s camp of political advisors. Her question is simple- Is there a way to defeat Obama but still retain the support of black Democratic voters for the general election? If Hillary and her advisers can come up with a positive answer, she will soon announce that she is running against the incumbent Democratic occupant of the White House for President of the United States.


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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2011, 11:08:48 AM »
333 - instead of blaming others why don't you blame your own party for running such a weak ticket last time

and while you're at it you should pray to the baby jeebus they can field a better candidate this time

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2011, 11:11:15 AM »
333 - instead of blaming others why don't you blame your own party for running such a weak ticket last time

and while you're at it you should pray to the baby jeebus they can field a better candidate this time

1.  I voted for Romney in the primary 

2.  Casey Anthony will beat obama at this point.   

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2011, 11:20:10 AM »
1.  I voted for Romney in the primary 

2.  Casey Anthony will beat obama at this point.   

keep telling yourself that

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2011, 11:24:46 AM »
keep telling yourself that

You are right - maybe I should have included Samantha knox

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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2011, 11:33:34 AM »
You are right - maybe I should have included Samantha knox

Hilary has said she will not seek elected office after her four year term as Secretary of State

you're just adding more to the list that you'll be crying about later


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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2011, 11:35:18 AM »
Hilary has said she will not seek elected office after her four year term as Secretary of State

you're just adding more to the list that you'll be crying about later



At the rate the Lightsquared, solynadra, and F&F, are raging - Hillary will be drafted and obama will come down w lung cancer and wont run. 


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Re: 61% Say Clinton Could Beat Obama in 2012
« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2011, 11:38:13 AM »
At the rate the Lightsquared, solynadra, and F&F, are raging - Hillary will be drafted and obama will come down w lung cancer and wont run. 

ok

I'm sure we'll find out soon enough