Marvin Eder "Natural"

[StanZoLOL]

10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out. 

All 10mg in the morning, or split it like you would a regular dbol dose?

[WillGrant]

All 10mg in the morning, or split it like you would a regular dbol dose?

do 5mg in the am and 5 mg an hour before weights which is usely around the 6pm mark.. thai pinks, and i react well to dball find it hard to run more than 20mgs a day so im lucky in that respect.. 30mg is the highest i have ever taken and couldnt handle the sides    can run test and EQ at higher doses no worrys but other things im quite sensitive to. so keep doses lowish "usely" 

[Bobby]

10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out. 

Yeah and they looked best back then. Will be fun to hear your results

[WillGrant]

Yeah and they looked best back then. Will be fun to hear your results

Agree - 70s early 80s the best years 

[DK II]

do 5mg in the am and 5 mg an hour before weights which is usely around the 6pm mark.. thai pinks, and i react well to dball find it hard to run more than 20mgs a day so im lucky in that respect.. 30mg is the highest i have ever taken and couldnt handle the sides    can run test and EQ at higher doses no worrys but other things im quite sensitive to. so keep doses lowish "usely" 

what sides do you get on 30mg?

[BB]

Just because I'm bored, here's March -

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Some of the York team from that time-

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Those would've been Dianabol era.

[WillGrant]

what sides do you get on 30mg?

Brutal painfull lower back pumps - pumps in my forearms so bad I cant contract my hands around anything to grip it plus my cardiovascular system is shot - also just feel lethargic and its an effort to move around the gym , between sets im slow as fuck - on 10mg i get none of the above but fantastic pumps in the target area im training and remain full and pumped .

[DK II]

Brutal painfull lower back pumps - pumps in my forearms so bad I cant contract my hands around anything to grip it plus my cardiovascular system is shot - also just feel lethargic and its an effort to move around the gym , between sets im slow as fuck - on 10mg i get none of the above but fantastic pumps in the target area im training and remain full and pumped .

I grow like a weed on 30mg, no sides as well. 

I had the worst painful pumps on Tbol though, lol. Arm training close to impossible.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You need to read up on steroid history, my friend...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid


Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyltestosterone or injections of testosterone propionate, began as early as 1937.[8] Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an anabolic steroid in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.

There is NO history of strength athletes using anything before Ziegler in 1954 in the United States. 

[WillGrant]

I grow like a weed on 30mg, no sides as well. 

I had the worst painful pumps on Tbol though, lol. Arm training close to impossible.

you are lucky - Im happy @ 10mg though and do get gains Im just sensitive to it which I suppose I get gains at lower doses also - save money no doubt even though its cheap, but when I see guys saying they take 100mg a day im like ----- > holly shit 

[DK II]

you are lucky - Im happy @ 10mg though and do get gains Im just sensitive to it which I suppose I get gains at lower doses also - save money no doubt even though its cheap, but when I see guys saying they take 100mg a day im like ----- > holly shit 

Well i'm not trying to get anywhere near 100mg i guess.

I like the 30mg and make good gains, so no need to go higher at least for now i guess.

[SF1900]

Well i'm not trying to get anywhere near 100mg i guess.

I like the 30mg and make good gains, so no need to go higher at least for now i guess.

For me, all moosetrack ice cream for insane pumps, mind blowing muscles, and pipe like vascularity.

[RC Money]

Work it out from this pic - theres the answer

ahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahahah
fucking great

[Heywood]

There is NO history of strength athletes using anything before Ziegler in 1954 in the United States. 

Correct, but that that takes away the nutcase arguments that it existed since the early 1900's, based on no evidence whatsoever.....

[hazbin]

For me, all moosetrack ice cream for insane pumps, mind blowing muscles, and pipe like vascularity.

fuk when i was competing i lived on that shit!!  half a gallon a day.

[StanZoLOL]

fuk when i was competing i lived on that shit!!  half a gallon a day.

If you could stay that lean eating half a gallon of ice cream a day then fuck you. 

[supernick]

def not nat