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Marvin Eder "Natural"
« on: October 06, 2011, 04:31:38 PM »



I'm sure there are some here that doubt his "natural" status (me being one of them) ~ but damn, this guy was strong!


Very strong.

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 04:36:09 PM »
as natural as my cock

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 04:41:44 PM »
In before gh15 claims he was test , test esters and insulin like he claimed of Steve Reeves  ::)

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 04:42:36 PM »
The pic at :09 was as gay as it gets ...

"hey bro, time to do dips....garb on to my nuts.."
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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 04:52:48 PM »
His brother "Richard" had a tough childhood.

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 07:14:27 PM »
Teststostarona, insulina, Deca, H bombs HGH the full bag of tricks!!!!!


HAHA!!! I beat Gh15 to it!!!
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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 07:17:56 PM »
Not very tall, with very strong tendons to compliment his powerful musculature.  He is (I believe) still alive and primarily does high repetition bodyweight squats and the like.  I believe him to be a totally natural bodybuilder in his youth.

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 07:23:12 PM »
Teststostarona, insulina, Deca, H bombs HGH the full bag of tricks!!!!!


HAHA!!! I beat Gh15 to it!!!



What about Equipona, Masterona, and beef bologna?

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 07:36:12 PM »
Look at one of the comments on the youtube site:
"hfouad2008  (Sep 29, 2011)
my friend take it from exprinced 35 years old bodybuilding fan from egypt , if the gym biceps went more than 18" while he 6 feets or less then he tak STEROID , i may accept an exception for this days because of very adanced supplments , but
from 30 years ,noooooooooooo , its steroids my friends"
Sound familiar?

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 07:48:40 PM »
Work it out from this pic - theres the answer




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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 08:41:06 PM »
juiced to the gills dead by 40 i have studied him pretty well over the yrs his workouts are some of the best for a natural or not for buidling general strength and muscle mass I tend to think he used and his lifts may be exagerated to he was training for the olympics so he would have access to what ever the other olympic lifters used

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2011, 10:00:50 PM »
Look at one of the comments on the youtube site:
"hfouad2008  (Sep 29, 2011)
my friend take it from exprinced 35 years old bodybuilding fan from egypt , if the gym biceps went more than 18" while he 6 feets or less then he tak STEROID , i may accept an exception for this days because of very adanced supplments , but
from 30 years ,noooooooooooo , its steroids my friends"
Sound familiar?


Yes, I saw that and immediately thought the same thing. I didn't bother going to "Hfouad's" channel.


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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 01:13:58 AM »
a natural dbol body
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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2011, 01:18:45 AM »
a natural dbol body

Dbol didn't exist back then, but Test Prop did.


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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 01:28:05 AM »
juiced to the gills dead by 40 i have studied him pretty well over the yrs his workouts are some of the best for a natural or not for buidling general strength and muscle mass I tend to think he used and his lifts may be exagerated to he was training for the olympics so he would have access to what ever the other olympic lifters used


That took me a minute. Talk about "run-on" sentences!


Juiced to the gills. He was dead by 40. You had studied him pretty well over the years. His workouts are some of the best for a natural. They were not the best for building general strength and muscle mass. You think he was juicing and that his best lifts also may have been exaggerated.

He trained for the Olympics so that he would have access to whatever steroids the other Olympic lifters used.

O.K. Got it.


Marvin Eder - Best Lifts

    * Deep-knee bend squats, 300 lbs x 50 reps
    * Barbell curl, 210 lbs
    * Clean and pressed, 355 lbs
    * Crucifix, 2 x 100 lbs dumbbells
    * Lateral raises, 120 lbs
    * Deadlift, 665 lbs
    * Parallel bar dip, 434 lbs
    * Chins, 200 lbs x 8 reps
    * Bench Press, 515 lbs

I'm sure you'll agree, such poundages are impressive. But just how did Marvin Eder get so strong?

Marvin Eder Routines

Marvin Eder used many strength training routines over the years. He particularly enjoyed Olympic lifting, and for bodybuilding purposes, mainly trained on the split system of 2 days on with the 3rd day off for rest.

A typical routine would be:

Day 1:

    * 5 sets x 10 reps dumbbell laterals, 120 lbs
    * 5 sets x 10 reps dumbbell curls, 120 lbs
    * 5 sets x 10 reps dumbbell bench press and triceps curls, 120 lbs
    * 5 sets x 10 reps lat machine pulldowns, 350 lbs

Day 2:

    * 5 sets x 15 reps abdominal sit-ups, 50 lbs
    * 5 sets x 50 reps calf machine
    * 5 sets x 10 reps barbell squats, 475 lbs

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As you can see, the loads lifted here are very heavy.

And the results?

Just check out the following superman physique...

Marvin Eder Measurements

    * Bodyweight, 203
    * Height, 5ft 8 ins
    * Waist, 34 ins
    * Chest, 50 ins
    * Neck, 19 ins
    * Biceps, 19 ins
    * Forearms, 15 ins
    * Thighs, 26 ins
    * Calves, 17 ins

In Summary

So what muscle building tips can the typical trainee hope to learn from "The Biceps From The Bronx"?

It is no surprise that to attempt such a routine - at least for the typical trainee - would lead to burn-out and certain injury. However, there is great value in following Eder's lead in concentrating on the big lifts like the squat exercise, the deadlift, and the parallel bar dip.

It is THESE muscle building exercises - along with a willingness to train heavy - that built Marvin Eder's impressive physique.

Let them do the same for you.



Read more: http://www.ordinary-joe-muscle-building.com/marvin-eder-routines.html#ixzz1a5BUert3


I can't find any information on how long he lived

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2011, 01:47:27 AM »
Dbol didn't exist back then, but Test Prop did.



I thought dbol came before test?

Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...
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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2011, 01:49:04 AM »
I thought dbol came before test?

Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...


Zeigler...

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2011, 01:56:25 AM »
I thought dbol came before test?

Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...

You need to read up on steroid history, my friend...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid


Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyltestosterone or injections of testosterone propionate, began as early as 1937.[8] Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an anabolic steroid in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2011, 02:42:34 AM »
I thought dbol came before test?

Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...

As mentioned above, there were Testosterone drugs available. Dianabol was just the first really popular "named" one.

Here's a neat quick look at Dr. Ziegler and his little blue invention-

http://startingstrength.com/articles/doc_ziegler_starr.pdf .

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2011, 03:44:16 AM »
Interesting read

6 week dbol cycle from the article
week 1-2: 5mg per day
week 3-4: 10mg
week 5-6: 20mg

Not exactly big doses, but great results. From 181lbs to 198.
Most would say dbol only is useless and would laugh at those dosages...
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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2011, 03:46:49 AM »
Interesting read

6 week dbol cycle from the article
week 1-2: 5mg per day
week 3-4: 10mg
week 5-6: 20mg

Not exactly big doses, but great results. From 181lbs to 198.
Most would say dbol only is useless and would laugh at those dosages...


Don't forget it was usually 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, all year round, and a lot of guys would go higher with the dosages after a while.

But, nevertheless, even on 10mg of Dbol you will gain better than any natural.

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2011, 03:52:58 AM »

Don't forget it was usually 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, all year round, and a lot of guys would go higher with the dosages after a while.

But, nevertheless, even on 10mg of Dbol you will gain better than any natural.

The doses seem harmless in regard to side-effects. Less androgenic than test, no needles necessary. If i took steroids i'd much rather to this than stick myself 2-3 times a week and get watery.
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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2011, 03:58:29 AM »
The doses seem harmless in regard to side-effects. Less androgenic than test, no needles necessary. If i took steroids i'd much rather to this than stick myself 2-3 times a week and get watery.

Well, then you're an idiot.  ;)


Injecting is really nothing, and much more convenient than popping pills, plus you don't have a constant strain on your liver.

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2011, 04:21:45 AM »

Don't forget it was usually 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, all year round, and a lot of guys would go higher with the dosages after a while.

But, nevertheless, even on 10mg of Dbol you will gain better than any natural.
10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out.  8)

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Re: Marvin Eder "Natural"
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2011, 04:22:40 AM »
10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out.  8)

sounds good!